STi or C5 Vette?

[StryfeS13]

So I have about ~20K to spend and I'm looking for a newer car.

I have been considering an STi or a C5 Vette.

I've found one STi locally that has 130k miles on it...is that a lot for an H4 engine? I really have never worked on any H4's besides those in Honda Goldwings.

wrx sti (http://fresno.craigslist.org/cto/3677808893.html)

And as for the vette...I want one because the engine is so simplistic and easy to work on, with minimal mods you get great power, looks bad ass...etc..but I test drove that STi and fell in love immediately.

Pretty much is 15.5k too much for that STi with that mileage, and what other cars are worth mentioning in my price range? I was considering an FR-S but the performance is really lacking IMO...can't think of many other newer cars that are even appealing besides these 3.

[towlie]

Hmm no evo??

[Hanzi]

Hmm no evo??

this made my night. The evo has to be black. LMAO

[Bambi]

STi is great and it's practical. But why not the WRX? Especially if you plan on modifying the car. Save yourself some money, at least for parts and or insurance, etc.

As for the Vette, I worked at Chevy before and met maybe one or two cool Vette owners. The rest were douche bags, people who bought the car just because "omg vetta, 'MERICA!," 'trophy wives, and very old dudes. Can't stand most of those people. Almost as bad as Camaro owners. And trust me, while the engine may be "simple," at least more so than the WRX's.

I've sat in and driven many vettes. Of most generations too. They're interiors, well, Chevy's interiors wear and tear very quickly and all the switches go bad quickly too. By the way, I'm a pretty short-ish guy and the car still feels a bit small. So if your near or more than 6 foot it's by no means a comfortable car to be in for a long time.

WRX's are very fun, have a HUGE community and aftermarket support, many shops that work on them, and the dealership around my area alone are known to be very welcoming and friendly to their WRX customers.

1 vote for STi/WRX

[towlie]

??^ I was serious lol

Never been a fan of sti's. don't like the motor and the inherent understeer. Vettes are chill but they seem to come with a stigma of douchebaggery. My opinion here, fellas.

Fr-s are insanely awesome but I agree on low hp. On those I'd wait and see what the aftermarket coughs up for power solutions.

That leaves.. Newer 350z, maybe 370, evo, maybe s2k?

I'd go with the evo :)

[StryfeS13]

Hmm no evo??

Idk man. Something about an evo screams "chick car" to me. But I like a few.

STi is great and it's practical. But why not the WRX? Especially if you plan on modifying the car. Save yourself some money, at least for parts and or insurance, etc.

As for the Vette, I worked at Chevy before and met maybe one or two cool Vette owners. The rest were douche bags, people who bought the car just because "omg vetta, 'MERICA!," 'trophy wives, and very old dudes. Can't stand most of those people. Almost as bad as Camaro owners. And trust me, while the engine may be "simple," at least more so than the WRX's.

I've sat in and driven many vettes. Of most generations too. They're interiors, well, Chevy's interiors wear and tear very quickly and all the switches go bad quickly too. By the way, I'm a pretty short-ish guy and the car still feels a bit small. So if your near or more than 6 foot it's by no means a comfortable car to be in for a long time.

WRX's are very fun, have a HUGE community and aftermarket support, many shops that work on them, and the dealership around my area alone are known to be very welcoming and friendly to their WRX customers.

1 vote for STi/WRX.

Why take the WRX over the STI? Sorry..I'm a 240 guy at heart and I have never really researched a lot about the Subaru's. And is the 130k mileage alot for the EJ?

Yeah..I'm 6'5". Dunno if I'd fit in the Vette.

[StryfeS13]

??^ I was serious lol

Never been a fan of sti's. don't like the motor and the inherent understeer. Vettes are chill but they seem to come with a stigma of douchebaggery. My opinion here, fellas.

Fr-s are insanely awesome but I agree on low hp. On those I'd wait and see what the aftermarket coughs up for power solutions.

That leaves.. Newer 350z, maybe 370, evo, maybe s2k?

I'd go with the evo :)

350z is outta the picture. 370z maybe, I'll have to look at them. S2K I'll consider..

[InsTanCeZ]

evo understeers more than sti from what ive heard, but either way if you tune it properly it shouldn't be a problem

[towlie]

Chick car lol I have never heard that about an evo. Vw YES, lancer maybe, evolution is mans car.

Subarus can take tons of mileage as long as you keep the drivetrain/awd system serviced.. That's always the first to go, 220k is nothing new

If you're a 240 man at heart I'd go with the mitsu!! The motor is so similar to an sr

[Bambi]

Idk man. Something about an evo screams "chick car" to me. But I like a few.



Why take the WRX over the STI? Sorry..I'm a 240 guy at heart and I have never really researched a lot about the Subaru's. And is the 130k mileage alot for the EJ?

Yeah..I'm 6'5". Dunno if I'd fit in the Vette.

There's very slight differences between the two to justify buying an STi. For one, the STi does have a larger turbo BUT that comes with extra turbo lag. I really, really recommend you do something as simple as "(whatever year) STi vs. WRX" and you'll find threads upon threads of comparssions and reasons why to get one over the other. Just pick the one that suits you.


As far as miles goes, these engines can be extremely reliable with care and maintenance. Just as with any car it depends on how the owner took care of it.

[InsTanCeZ]

STi's are cool but I prefer RWD cars, they're just more fun to drive.

[OrangeVirus1]

How about a Mazdaspeed 6? I swear they are a freaking blast to drive and hug the road like a train on tracks. yes they are heavy and feel heavy, but with some HP mods they Freaking fly, and the drivetrain can hold over 500whp without any issues as long as you replace the stock rods and stock mounts.

They are AWD 2.3 Turbo disi and sell for like 11-12k. that + 5k in mods and you have 400whp easily and still get around 22-25mpg

not only that but they are totally sleeper.. look like a common car, and they are rare. but their awd is awesome. Also you can shut off the awd when you want to and just go fwd for extra MPG

[KiLLeR2001]

WRX/STi pretty relax and chill group of people. I have a few friends with Subies. Vette owners? Not so much. Another friendly community from what I've seen is the NSX guys.

[InsTanCeZ]

^^^ Yeah I was gonna say NSX, but idk if the newer ones are still in your price range?

[OrangeVirus1]

Also btw I think the WRX special edition ( or what ever it's called the better looking one ) comes with an STI turbo.

[booey13]

Don't quote me on it but if I remember correctly the sti's had beefier drivetrains

[OrangeVirus1]

Don't quote me on it but if I remember correctly the sti's had beefier drivetrains

true. the wrx drivetrains are made of glass.


Another thing to the STi, they literally have a Horsepower button/dial. You can choose between like economy mode, street mode, sport mode etc and the boost goes up with each.


Economy mode vs sport mode is like a minivan vs a STi lol

[Bambi]

Don't quote me on it but if I remember correctly the sti's had beefier drivetrains

AH yes, they're transmissions handle abuse better. Only lot of people wish they had made the regular 5 speed plus a 6th because the STi's 6 speed gear ratios aren't very liked. But the WRX's 5 speed is loved- just more fragile and no 6th gear for freeway cruising.

[OrangeVirus1]

Another thing to the STi ( at least the 2012 one my friend has ) you can adust the Transfer case/ differential for a bunch of different stuff electronically. just some buttons make the ride different from a comfy car to a rally machine

[ForeignMuscle]

Bambi, your talkin' straight shit.

I'm 6'3" and I fit in c5 and c6's with room to spare.

Switches go out quickly.. WTF? Are you just a shop tech or how many vettes have you owned? We can compare if you'd like. My girlfriend also has an 06 Trailblazer SS with over 100k miles that still smells new, drives new, and all the switches work like new..

Interior wears? I can show a picture of 3 or 4 c5's and a couple c6's with mileage racking up and perfect interior. 240sx interior falls apart. Not a vettes.

Oh and the owners are douchebags. Real great reason to not buy a car...

OP, the two cars you listed are in different leagues.

You need to be looking at c5 zo6's. I know of several nice locals for around that price.

Have you actually driven a vette yet? It is not like anything else you will ever drive again. You have to decide what you're looking for though. Wanting one of these two just doesn't make sense. Either you want a vette or you want a 4 door sedan..

[OrangeVirus1]

Oh and the owners are douchebags. Real great reason to not buy a car...




I can personally account that unless you like to drive alone, keep to yourself and never go to car events.. IT FUCKING SUCKS to be part of a crowd of assholes.

Just join the mazdaspeed Douchebag community and find out.You could have a badass car, c5 twin turbo 1000HP but man when you are around nothing but assholes who have their own head shoved so far up their ass and talk down to your car... it makes you switch.

The craziest thing is the nicest chillest people I met owned NISSANS AND HONDAS.. WTF RIGHT? honda? ricer? no I have met alot of really chill honda owners.
Not even going to lie, I bought a 240sx after meeting with some of the Nissan people here, and they were super chill, super nice, and gave me ZERO SHIT about me choosing the RB20 engine If I was gonna get a 240sx. They said that's cool man leme know if you need any help, hit us up at our shop you're welcome to come in.

but if you buy a sick ass car and everyone around is like " shoulda done that" " oh why you turbo bro you should of supercharged and NOS for mad powa" look at my Corvette I have a small dick ( lol )

[KiLLeR2001]

Also, 2004 is the bastard child for the STi. They made a lot of key upgrades for the 2005 model. I was having this discussion with my friend who owns an '05 STi the other day.

[Bambi]

You're right, I've only seen, been in, and driven a shit ton of them myself among all the other pieces of crap Chevy makes. My bad bro, my bad.
Also I would like to say Corvette owners are douchebags. The majority of them. All of the Corvette-specific techs. at Chevy hated them and having to hear from the owners/customers was a nightmare for them.

I honestly do not understand why you're comparing it to an old Nissan other than to somehow be hopeful somebody defends a 240sx's interior. lol

[OrangeVirus1]

I honestly do not understand why you're comparing it to an old Nissan other than to somehow be hopeful somebody defends a 240sx's interior. lol



I would without a doubt defend that the 240sx interior is the fastest fall-apart interior of any car I have ever owned. ever. even my old ass beat up eclipse didn't even have ripped seats

[Bambi]

i would without a doubt defend that the 240sx interior is the fastest fall-apart interior of any car i have ever owned. Ever. Even my old ass beat up eclipse didn't even have ripped seats

yeah bro but how many cars have you owned.





Also to op, you can PM if you need any helpful links about the WRX.

[Homeboyx]

The NSX. :snoop:

[OrangeVirus1]

yeah bro but how many cars have you owned.





Also to op, you can PM if you need any helpful links about the WRX.

9 used and 2 new
1985 Fiero GT
1994 Ford probe ( worst car I ever owned )
1996 eclipse GST
1996 eclipse GS ( I swear to god all joking aside I traded an xbox 360 for this car )
1995 eclipse GSX
1997 Eclipse GST
1989 Conquest Tsi
1987 conquest Tsi
1992 240sx

New :
2010 Dodge caliber
2011 Mazda 3 2.5 S

[coupesallday!]

I'd get a scion frs or brz. Heck even a Hyundai genesis coupe

[OrangeVirus1]

I'd get a scion frs or brz. Heck even a Hyundai genesis coupe

ah yeah the new Genesis coupe is V8! or the 3.8 + Twin turbo / supercharger.

the 3.8's sound awesome

[StryfeS13]

You need to be looking at c5 zo6's. I know of several nice locals for around that price.

Have you actually driven a vette yet? It is not like anything else you will ever drive again. You have to decide what you're looking for though. Wanting one of these two just doesn't make sense. Either you want a vette or you want a 4 door sedan..

Nah I haven't driven one yet. What do you mean it's not like anything else I will ever drive again?

I'd get a scion frs or brz. Heck even a Hyundai genesis coupe

I wanted to but I'm the type of person that needs some power and the frs/brz does not have that. A stock 240sx is faster I swear. I'll check out the genesis.

[ForeignMuscle]

I can personally account that unless you like to drive alone, keep to yourself and never go to car events.. IT FUCKING SUCKS to be part of a crowd of assholes.

Just join the mazdaspeed Douchebag community and find out.You could have a badass car, c5 twin turbo 1000HP but man when you are around nothing but assholes who have their own head shoved so far up their ass and talk down to your car... it makes you switch.

The craziest thing is the nicest chillest people I met owned NISSANS AND HONDAS.. WTF RIGHT? honda? ricer? no I have met alot of really chill honda owners.
Not even going to lie, I bought a 240sx after meeting with some of the Nissan people here, and they were super chill, super nice, and gave me ZERO SHIT about me choosing the RB20 engine If I was gonna get a 240sx. They said that's cool man leme know if you need any help, hit us up at our shop you're welcome to come in.

but if you buy a sick ass car and everyone around is like " shoulda done that" " oh why you turbo bro you should of supercharged and NOS for mad powa" look at my Corvette I have a small dick ( lol )

So basically your a bandwagon fanboy nutswinger who has to have the same shit as everyone else? Oh vette means small dick? I could have sworn it meant employeed. God forbid you go to a CAR SHOW in something different from everyone else. Oh yea, it has to be make/model specific, right?...

You're right, I've only seen, been in, and driven a shit ton of them myself among all the other pieces of crap Chevy makes. My bad bro, my bad.


I honestly do not understand why you're comparing it to an old Nissan other than to somehow be hopeful somebody defends a 240sx's interior. lol

Yea, I can tell you're a badass tech who has driven so many vettes through the parking lot that you know it all. You haven't owned shit, yet hated from your judgmental point of view at something you can not afford. Sucks doesn't it?

What the fuck kind of car do you drive by the way? Since the fastest factory production car, longest lasting truck, and best warranty on fucking earth aren't good enough for you then please, by all means, tell us who the mecca of auto manufactures is.

Before you cry Chevy lover, let me remind you I never said they are the end all of vehicles. But, I for one have owned, and do own Chevrolet products and I love them. Compared to a 4 door Subaru it is not even the same ball park. You don't look for a vette and fall into a sedan unless your bitch fails a first response at the dealership.

[OrangeVirus1]

So basically your a bandwagon fanboy nutswinger who has to have the same shit as everyone else? Oh vette means small dick?


I didn't actually mean the small dick thing, I meant that purely as the stereotype that everyone says about it.

and No, I never do what everyone else does. I do the opposite pure and plain examples :

I chose the RB20 over the Rb25 for my 240sx

I bought a mazda 3 2.5 NA and turbo'd it, instead of buying a Mazdaspeed 3 ( factory turbo )

[1988montecarloss]

Bambi, your talkin' straight shit.

I'm 6'3" and I fit in c5 and c6's with room to spare.

Switches go out quickly.. WTF? Are you just a shop tech or how many vettes have you owned? We can compare if you'd like. My girlfriend also has an 06 Trailblazer SS with over 100k miles that still smells new, drives new, and all the switches work like new..

Interior wears? I can show a picture of 3 or 4 c5's and a couple c6's with mileage racking up and perfect interior. 240sx interior falls apart. Not a vettes.

Oh and the owners are douchebags. Real great reason to not buy a car...

OP, the two cars you listed are in different leagues.

You need to be looking at c5 zo6's. I know of several nice locals for around that price.

Have you actually driven a vette yet? It is not like anything else you will ever drive again. You have to decide what you're looking for though. Wanting one of these two just doesn't make sense. Either you want a vette or you want a 4 door sedan..

x2 on what this guy says, im 6 feet and fit in my buddies c5 z06 with PLENTY of room to spare, his has 70k on it and looks like new in and out....

its also a lot faster than our friends 06 STI and gets better mileage.

and its rear wheel drive, this is zilvia for fucks-sake, not some namby pamby awd understeering loving forum :fawkd:

all that being said, get whatever you want, if you need something more practical that can fit more than 2 people get an STI if you dont need something practical and youre buying something just for how it drives get either a modded base C5 or a C5 z06

[ForeignMuscle]

Nah I haven't driven one yet. What do you mean it's not like anything else I will ever drive again?

It's a nearly 50/50 distributed car. Super light weight. Handles like nothing I've ever been in (outside of a couple rear engine cars I've driven) The LS engine is, in fact, my opinion for the best engine produced no matter what you plan on doing.

You get around 28mpg, yet still have plenty of power (345hp for c5's depending on year and of course 405hp for the Z) The t56 6 speed is the way to go if you like rowing gears.

The interior is awesome in my opinion. Very comfortable.

As far as durability goes, I don't know why I even have to explain it. If you take care of it, it will take care of you. The LS engines just don't stop, period. And the rest of the corvette is equally well built.

If you need any in depth info on the vette just shoot me a pm. I would be glad to help.

BTW, this is coming from an Subie lover who is currently helping out a friend who is interested in buying a brand new STI. Like I said though, they are in two different leagues.

[OrangeVirus1]

EFF all these people. Get THIS

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[OrangeVirus1]

Don't forget OP ( just look at the graphic images online )

If you are ever texting while driving in your corvette, you are without a doubt DEAD if something happens.

[ForeignMuscle]

I didn't actually mean the small dick thing, I meant that purely as the stereotype that everyone says about it.

and No, I never do what everyone else does. I do the opposite pure and plain examples :

I chose the RB20 over the Rb25 for my 240sx

I bought a mazda 3 2.5 NA and turbo'd it, instead of buying a Mazdaspeed 3 ( factory turbo )

Hahah I gotcha man. Sorry to set your ass on fire. I was wondering wtf you were thinking if you were serious.

[Bambi]

Yea, I can tell you're a badass tech who has driven so many vettes through the parking lot that you know it all. You haven't owned shit, yet hated from your judgmental point of view at something you can not afford. Sucks doesn't it?

What the fuck kind of car do you drive by the way? Since the fastest factory production car, longest lasting truck, and best warranty on fucking earth aren't good enough for you then please, by all means, tell us who the mecca of auto manufactures is.

Before you cry Chevy lover, let me remind you I never said they are the end all of vehicles. But, I for one have owned, and do own Chevrolet products and I love them. Compared to a 4 door Subaru it is not even the same ball park. You don't look for a vette and fall into a sedan unless your bitch fails a first response at the dealership.

(2) 1989 240sx XE
1994 240sx SE
1995 Mercedes Benz c280
1996 BMW 318is
1999 Honda Civic EX
1997 VW Jetta
2004 BMW Z4

I'm 18, those are the cars I have owned and purchased myself. I own 3 of them still currently. 240sx, Z4, and the stupid Jetta. Excuse me for not being able to afford a car I never want to buy from a manufacturer I have yet to like.

I've not only worked at Chevy, I have also been with Mercedes Benz before. Please, proceed to talk shit on them now too.


Also some friends and I are laughing thanks to you. The last two paragraphs were priceless. Thank you, kudos. I hope you tell your friends about how much bigger your e-peen got after defending Chevy over the internetz against an 18 year old you don't know.


That is enough for this thread.

[OrangeVirus1]

I thought Fastest Factory production car went to the CTS-V???

I mean their damn windshield wipers were special made to work at over 190MPH!?

[ForeignMuscle]

(2) 1989 240sx XE
1994 240sx SE
1995 Mercedes Benz c280
1996 BMW 318is
1999 Honda Civic EX
1997 VW Jetta
2004 BMW Z4

I'm 18, those are the cars I have owned and purchased myself. I own 3 of them still currently. 240sx, Z4, and the stupid Jetta. Excuse me for not being able to afford a car I never want to buy from a manufacturer I have yet to like.

I've not only worked at Chevy, I have also been with Mercedes Benz before. Please, proceed to talk shit on them now too.


Also some friends and I are laughing thanks to you. The last two paragraphs were priceless. Thank you, kudos.


That is enough for this thread.

I would laugh it off too kid. You're quite an idiot.

(oh, and since we're bragging about jobs... Army Fleet Support.)

Nothing special. Just jet engines and helicopters.

Quite a garage you got there, too. Maybe if you sold all that junk you could afford one decent ride.

Btw, saying Thank you, Kudos is like saying thank you twice...

[OrangeVirus1]

I would laugh it off too kid. You're quite an idiot.

(oh, and since we're bragging about jobs... Army Fleet Support.)

Nothing special. Just jet engines and helicopters.

Quite a garage you got there, too. Maybe if you sold all that junk you could afford one decent ride.

are you in the army or a contractor? MOS if you are?


To the OP, just get an STi, more room, safer because slower, better in harsh weather conditions, and you won't be automatically labeled douche for having a corvette.

[1988montecarloss]

I thought Fastest Factory production car went to the CTS-V???

I mean their damn windshield wipers were special made to work at over 190MPH!?

zr1 vette is faster

[ForeignMuscle]

I thought Fastest Factory production car went to the CTS-V???

I mean their damn windshield wipers were special made to work at over 190MPH!?

zr1 man. 638hp LS9 to the 558hp LSA.

And I'm civilian. Contracted.

[OrangeVirus1]

what about the nissan GTR ( new one )? I read somewhere it beat the vette.. in something Dunno if top speed though.

Also Bugatti veyron super sport nothing tops it but I mean.. that's a rich mans car lol.


I've seen some youtube videos of insanely fast Vettes.. Honestly Probably too scary to be a daily

[onlydrinkkoolaid]

wrx all the way. Roomy, awesome exhaust, looks good what else could you want

[ForeignMuscle]

what about the nissan GTR ( new one )? I read somewhere it beat the vette.. in something Dunno if top speed though.

Also Bugatti veyron super sport nothing tops it but I mean.. that's a rich mans car lol.


I've seen some youtube videos of insanely fast Vettes.. Honestly Probably too scary to be a daily


No man. ZR1 is the fastest production factory car in the world.

You wanna see a fast vette then Youtube Hinson Motorsports texas mile. Better yet, Mark Carlysle's ZO6. Fastest independent suspension car in the world. 0-212mph in about 6.8 seconds...

And once again, the ZR1 smokes that Bugattis ass. I hate hearing people say it's fast. Do you know how long it takes that thing to hit top speed or even close??

[Bambi]

Can op explain what he needs/wants the car for specifically for a better and more accurate suggestion in which everyone can fight about.

[1988montecarloss]

what about the nissan GTR ( new one )? I read somewhere it beat the vette.. in something Dunno if top speed though.

Also Bugatti veyron super sport nothing tops it but I mean.. that's a rich mans car lol.


I've seen some youtube videos of insanely fast Vettes.. Honestly Probably too scary to be a daily

gtr is faster than a z06 around the nurburgring, not a zr1

a z06 is also a cam swap away from 630-ish HP too :bigok:

[OrangeVirus1]

looks good

that's debatable.. I think they are as ugly as Fook.

In all honestly I think driving a wrx will be funner. the AWD is just a blast by itself.. I loved my eclipse GSX.. and seriously would trade my 240 for one with equal mods in a heart beat.. because the awd is just awesome

[ForeignMuscle]

Can op explain what he needs/wants the car for specifically for a better and more accurate suggestion in which everyone can fight about.

No. Go to bed.

[1988montecarloss]

And once again, the ZR1 smokes that Bugattis ass. I hate hearing people say it's fast. Do you know how long it takes that thing to hit top speed or even close??

in the grand scheme of things veyron's arent that fast, mike reichens evo makes them look slow with a 2.0 4cyl hahaha

[OrangeVirus1]

No man. ZR1 is the fastest production factory car in the world.

You wanna see a fast vette then Youtube Hinson Motorsports texas mile.

And once again, the ZR1 smokes that Bugattis ass. I hate hearing people say it's fast. Do you know how long it takes that thing to hit top speed or even close??

I have no idea.. how longs it takes to get to top speed.. but 16 cylinders and 4 turbos is just awesome by itself.. regardless of the fact you will drain the entire tank in like 10 minutes at top speed

I'm sure the zr1 beats it in acceleration, I mean the damn bugatti is freaking 16 cylinder heavy ass yacht, but top speed? probly not.

I have never really seen a ZR1 perform.. so I don't have the slightest clue.

[ForeignMuscle]

in the grand scheme of things veyron's arent that fast, mike reichens evo makes them look slow with a 2.0 4cyl hahaha

Thank god you admit it lol. Most people think because the damn thing does 300 or what the fuck ever that it is the fastest car ever. NO.

You need the Bonneville salt flats to get that fucker to 3/4 throttle.

AND you'd be a fucking moron to not buy an airplane instead.

[ForeignMuscle]

I have no idea.. how longs it takes to get to top speed.. but 16 cylinders and 4 turbos is just awesome by itself.. regardless of the fact you will drain the entire tank in like 10 minutes at top speed

I'm sure the zr1 beats it in acceleration, I mean the damn bugatti is freaking 16 cylinder heavy ass yacht, but top speed? probly not.

I have never really seen a ZR1 perform.. so I don't have the slightest clue.

You are correct it is definitely faster top side, but no one outside of a closed interstate will ever get it up to those speeds. You need to check out the zr1 just because you're a car guy and need to know. It's a freak..

[OrangeVirus1]

You are correct it is definitely faster top side, but no one outside of a closed interstate will ever get it up to those speeds. You need to check out the zr1 just because you're a car guy and need to know. It's a freak..

ok hinson motorsports..that thing sounded like a fucking jet !! and was the driver actually shifting that thing!>?? and that turbo.. small critters could get sucked into that thing..


Second.. ZR1.. 3.4 seconds 0-60.. STOCK!!!!!!!!!

[s14j]

Op 15.5 k for that sti is a bit too much its oky. my brother got his 04 sti for 10.5k with 98k and a good amount of mods and a tune putting down 300whp.
as far as peopke say about the wrx and sti there so different. the reason why he got the sti was because his wrx was wrecked due to a hit and run, hes been a long time member on nasioc as well there a cool group of people.
as far as the vett idk there cool. lol

[1988montecarloss]

Thank god you admit it lol. Most people think because the damn thing does 300 or what the fuck ever that it is the fastest car ever. NO.

You need the Bonneville salt flats to get that fucker to 3/4 throttle.

AND you'd be a fucking moron to not buy an airplane instead.

haha yup, you can build a car that runs a second faster in the 1/4 than one for $4k too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk9uU_3VHT0

5.3's FTW!!!

[1988montecarloss]

ok hinson motorsports..that thing sounded like a fucking jet !! and was the driver actually shifting that thing!>?? and that turbo.. small critters could get sucked into that thing..


Second.. ZR1.. 3.4 seconds 0-60.. STOCK!!!!!!!!!

a zr1 is a pulley, tune and tires away from mid-9's in the 1/4 mile haha

[OrangeVirus1]

I think actually, the Tesla roadster can keep up with the ZR1 in 0-60

I've never gotten to drive a car or even been in a car with more than around 400hp.. hah so I don't even know the feeling of sub 4 second 0-60

[1988montecarloss]

I think actually, the Tesla roadster can keep up with the ZR1 in 0-60

I've never gotten to drive a car or even been in a car with more than around 400hp.. hah so I don't even know the feeling of sub 4 second 0-60

electric motors make huge amount of torque from 0 rpm, the tesla would be far behind a zr1 by 100mph, not to mention the zr1 is traction limited to a 3.4 0-60mph time

my 71 monte ran 10.79 in the 1/4 with a 1.37 60 ft. time

there is nothing better than trans brake nitrous launches hahahaha

[OrangeVirus1]

electric motors make huge amount of torque from 0 rpm, the tesla would be far behind a zr1 by 100mph, not to mention the zr1 is traction limited to a 3.4 0-60mph time

yeah I know the electric motor doesn't really make it fair..

too bad the ZR1 costs more then I make in 3 years :( lol

[ForeignMuscle]

haha yup, you can build a car that runs a second faster in the 1/4 than one for $4k too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk9uU_3VHT0

5.3's FTW!!!

Checkmate..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5q4JPYP7oY

[1988montecarloss]

Checkmate..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5q4JPYP7oY

no, this is checkmate, this is the current record for a factory LS bottom end, i just posted the fairmont because they were the first guys to do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgLzYfCkA34

heres the record, posted the wrong vid, but still the same car haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAIce--rrdU&NR=1&feature=endscreen

[ForeignMuscle]

Fuckers just keep getting faster. Anyway, we have completely jacked this thread. lol.

Op, let us know what you're feeling on this car deal. Maybe we can help you make a decision you'll be happy with.

[1988montecarloss]

Fuckers just keep getting faster. Anyway, we have completely jacked this thread. lol.

Op, let us know what you're feeling on this car deal. Maybe we can help you make a decision you'll be happy with.

yup, sorry OP haha

anyway if you end up going with the vette and have any questions about the LS series of motors feel free to PM me, i know them pretty well

[OrangeVirus1]

Don't get either of them OP. let's end it at that. they both have pluses and minuses.. but don't get either of them.

Get a mazdaspeed 6. you won't be dissapointed :)

[ForeignMuscle]

You could just buy my 240sx and stroll both their asses... :naughty:

[jamg]

dont get a C5. they are poverty as fuk.

at least get a C6... that will run you around 30k

[dahveed]

Corvette mannnn, how many young bros drive one? Think of all the hoes you'd be pulling. Oh and great mpg!

[StryfeS13]

Don't get either of them OP. let's end it at that. they both have pluses and minuses.. but don't get either of them.

Get a mazdaspeed 6. you won't be dissapointed :)

I can't drive a Mazda lol.

Fuckers just keep getting faster. Anyway, we have completely jacked this thread. lol.

Op, let us know what you're feeling on this car deal. Maybe we can help you make a decision you'll be happy with.

I'm 95% sure I want a C5. I'm just trying to be open to other cars.

dont get a C5. they are poverty as fuk.

at least get a C6... that will run you around 30k

Poverty..? What's wrong about a C5? It looks amazing, has the power to back it up unlike most newer cars like the FR-S, with a few simple mods it can make 400whp all day...what's "poverty" about it..? This is a 240sx forum, we're not rich here lol

[PeaceOnesxWai]

^If you count all the things you can do with a AWD subaru.. i think all in itself of its practicality would be worthy over a corvette.

Ive had a 2010 wrx and it was a great car, very practical and fun to use. It handled great in any condition. Offroading in it was more fun then drifting imo. I remember winter time we went up to big bear and it was snowing, i only had sport tires and i made it uphill into our cabin with a breeze will the other cars in my group had to chain up to reach the last hundred yards.

You may think vettes are fast but a 350awhp is plenty on the streets, especially the launch. Ive driven vettes a few times and its mean to only go fast.. but kinda have the feeling it was to oversteer out of nowhere to kill me.

Also subie owners are super cool. They acknowledge all other subie owners and thrown the deuces

[240boi115]

Corvette mannnn, how many young bros drive one? Think of all the hoes you'd be pulling. Oh and great mpg!

while this is true how many hoes can you fit in one opposed to the wrx or sti eh? lol IMO the vette kills in everything but its handling around turns...and i have driven one a couple actually... and ive only driven one wrx so i feel a tad biased but i can say after taking them both around some turns the vette seems to have more understeer than the wrx unless you let the rear slide out...dude with 20k why not get a gtr dude... an r32 or r33 come in 4 door and got dat sexy rb motor! xD

[PeaceOnesxWai]

Also I dont think any car would pull chicks if you aint got game... I stacked my moms camry with 4 chicks, or maybe just my camrys a chick magnet? Great room, great MPG, guess why them hoes love that sexy ass car

Chicks in America prefer European cars, buy european. No volvo/vw tho

[240boi115]

hahahah true datlolall about that game son!! got 5 chicks in my moms toyota matrix lmao..you can own a nice vette buy be in debt and lonely aswell.. hahahaha if you get a 325i bitches will be all over your shit xD

[spooled240]

funny I saw a bright yellow c6 z06 the other day and guess who was driving it? Well an old guy of course..as stupid as it sounds I most likely won't ever buy a vette just because of this stereotype, I would instantly feel 30 years older just sitting in one.

[ForeignMuscle]

^If you count all the things you can do with a AWD subaru.. i think all in itself of its practicality would be worthy over a corvette.

Ive had a 2010 wrx and it was a great car, very practical and fun to use. It handled great in any condition. Offroading in it was more fun then drifting imo. I remember winter time we went up to big bear and it was snowing, i only had sport tires and i made it uphill into our cabin with a breeze will the other cars in my group had to chain up to reach the last hundred yards.

You may think vettes are fast but a 350awhp is plenty on the streets, especially the launch. Ive driven vettes a few times and its mean to only go fast.. but kinda have the feeling it was to oversteer out of nowhere to kill me.

Also subie owners are super cool. They acknowledge all other subie owners and thrown the deuces

All the things you can do with awd huh...

Off roading. Fuck yea, lets take our $20k car muddin'!!!

Snow. Yes definitely good for snow. But who said this kid is trying to scale a snowy mountain?

350awhp is plenty?? Thank you for telling us all what we want. Actually I think I will stick to my 600whp 2600lb s13. I must be a true rebel.

And vettes only meant to go fast. I love you dumb fucks coming out of the wood work to tell us what a vette was built for. The shit goes slow the same as any other car. You let off the skinny pedal.

Oh yea, all subaru owners are cool. Every fucking one of them so get a Subaru. God forbid you get a car who's "people" aren't cool.

OP, just go drive a vette and a sti and see which one is for you. If you don't drive in snow or need to carry 4 people then I bet you pick the vette. Not one person here has came with any facts besides myself and maybe one or two others. Just some half witted opinions from children who have never driven either vehicle.

I think you can find a C5 ZO6 for the money you have.

[240boi115]

its not just that its just i feel like if i bought one id feel like i couldve spent the money better and id be paranoid as hell to park it anywhere....same as a camaro and im putting my flame suit on when i say this but i really dont like the new camaro...it looks ok but its just too... big and bulky... like most american cars.

[jamg]

Vettes are old man sports car like how the mustang is the domestic ricer car of choice

[BrownDogg]

There's very slight differences between the two to justify buying an STi. For one, the STi does have a larger turbo BUT that comes with extra turbo lag. I really, really recommend you do something as simple as "(whatever year) STi vs. WRX" and you'll find threads upon threads of comparssions and reasons why to get one over the other. Just pick the one that suits you.


As far as miles goes, these engines can be extremely reliable with care and maintenance. Just as with any car it depends on how the owner took care of it.


I have to chime in here. you are definitely wrong about the differences being slight from a WRX to an STI. Im not going to go into all the differences but I cant definitely say the STI is worth it if you can afford one over a WRX.

Per the original question. I would go with the STI over a Corvette. Corvette is an older persons car and more grown up. If you want a fun, young car. Get the Subaru.

The two cars really do not compare. That STI is an amazingly fun car and for the mods and condition it looks to be in I would say $15K is a fair price on it.

[ForeignMuscle]

Chicks in America prefer European cars, buy european. No volvo/vw tho

THANK YOU!!! Now we all know. I bet you get all the hoes and bitches dawg.


....Actually I bet your single, covered in acne, live in your mom's basement and own nothing worth driving.

I'm pretty sure all 3.8billion females on Earth didn't agree on liking Euro cars.

The typical platinum blonde dumb fucking bitch loves a BMW though. You can bet on that. Go get you a beamer and you can have her.

[ForeignMuscle]

If you want a fun, young car. Get the Subaru.

The two cars really do not compare. That STI is an amazingly fun car and for the mods and condition it looks to be in I would say $15K is a fair price on it.

Where the fuck are you morons coming from.

A "fun young car"....

Yea vettes are boring. Slow. and you feel old driving them.

Btw, 15k is a fucking joke for the car the OP spoke of. Did you notice the mileage?

[240boi115]

Vettes are old man sports car like how the mustang is the domestic ricer car of choice

have you driven a 5.0 or gt mustang? they arent that bad and the styling is pretty cool...if i had to personally choose a newer mustang id take like an 05' though.. they are pretty fun to drive and burn rubber in. the new 13' s look cool but with the right stance a 2005 mustang looks reeeal good. (once again flame suit prepared)

[ForeignMuscle]

have you driven a 5.0 or gt mustang? they arent that bad and the styling is pretty cool...if i had to personally choose a newer mustang id take like an 05' though.. they are pretty fun to drive and burn rubber in. the new 13' s look cool but with the right stance a 2005 mustang looks reeeal good. (once again flame suit prepared)

New mustang with the Coyote setup is no joke. People are running low 12's factory..

[240boi115]

Where the fuck are you morons coming from.

A "fun young car"....

Yea vettes are boring. Slow. and you feel old driving them.

Btw, 15k is a fucking joke for the car the OP spoke of. Did you notice the mileage?

15k is too much so i agree there...

vettes rock but for some reason id never want to own one... its like one of those dream cars that you finnaly get to own and then the luster of the car vanishes...im weird though im not against american muscle but the way american cars are headed these days arent in my taste.. the mustang and the vette have my hopes going... the challenger looks cool but once again its just to large and bulky for no reason...cept well. MERICA!

[BrownDogg]

Where the fuck are you morons coming from.

A "fun young car"....

Yea vettes are boring. Slow. and you feel old driving them.

Btw, 15k is a fucking joke for the car the OP spoke of. Did you notice the mileage?

Why are you calling everyone else a moron? Slow your roll buddy.

Its a younger persons car IMO. Nothing my dad would drive. Its certainly not the type of car a typical older gentleman would buy. Not to say some old dudes don't have one, there's always exceptions.

What do you own yourself since you are so high and mighty?

[240boi115]

this became a flame post sooo quick....and i dont think there has been a deision made either...

[ForeignMuscle]

Why are you calling everyone else a moron? Slow your roll buddy.

Its a younger persons car IMO. Nothing my dad would drive. Its certainly not the type of car a typical older gentleman would buy. Not to say some old dudes don't have one, there's always exceptions.

What do you own yourself since you are so high and mighty?

Maybe if you read the thread before jumping in here with your fucking 100th post then you would know.

2003 c5 z06.

girlfriend drives a 06 TBSS.

I have sr20 s13.

92 honda civic.

What you driving big boi?? Wanna size em up?


It's not about high and mighty. It's about me knowing the facts and not spewing useless opinions.

[LiCelsior]

love the vettes but its more of a mid life crisis car...just saying..

[ForeignMuscle]

love the vettes but its more of a mid life crisis car...just saying..

More like a mid life party.

[BrownDogg]

Maybe if you read the thread before jumping in here with your fucking 100th post then you would know.

2003 c5 z06.

girlfriend drives a 06 TBSS.

I have sr20 s13.

92 honda civic.

What you driving big boi?? Wanna size em up?


It's not about high and mighty. It's about me knowing the facts and not spewing useless opinions.

Didnt know post count mattered. Check out my join date compared to yours if you want to compare something.

Since you asked. Lets size them up.

I drive a 2006 Subaru WRX STI and a 1995 Nissan 240sx with a RB26.

My opinion wasn't useless. Maybe to you it was but it wasn't meant for you in the first place.

And sorry I dont know what a 06 TBSS is.... Quick google search turned up trailblazer SS? Who cares what your girlfriend drives? Should we list what our friends, family, parents, etc drive while we are at it? Wanna compare dicks too to see whos is bigger? Come on dude. Chill out! Its a forum. Dont take it soo seriously. My posts were my opinion. Nothing more.

[innovation]

Maybe if you read the thread before jumping in here with your fucking 100th post then you would know.

2003 c5 z06.

girlfriend drives a 06 TBSS.

I have sr20 s13.

92 honda civic.

What you driving big boi?? Wanna size em up?


It's not about high and mighty. It's about me knowing the facts and not spewing useless opinions.

God you two are just keyboard warriors to the extreme. The internet is serious business!

Now lets end this with a obligatory
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlhdnwihXZ_lV7q0BL3WSeopnRZDFWw Ys2rL3Dk85gcTf_jfdX

[ForeignMuscle]

Didnt know post count mattered. Check out my join date compared to yours if you want to compare something.

Since you asked. Lets size them up.

I drive a 2006 Subaru WRX STI and a 1995 Nissan 240sx with a RB26.

My opinion wasn't useless. Maybe to you it was but it wasn't meant for you in the first place.

And sorry I dont know what a 06 TBSS is.... Quick google search turned up trailblazer SS? Who cares what your girlfriend drives? Should we list what our friends, family, parents, etc drive while we are at it? Wanna compare dicks too to see whos is bigger? Come on dude. Chill out! Its a forum. Dont take it soo seriously. My posts were my opinion. Nothing more.

I bought it mother fucker so it does matter. Got any more useless shit to say that you want me to correct for you?

YOUR OPINION is exactly what I said it was. Not facts. Just a bunch of bullshit about old guys this, and young cars that.

Sounds like I'm really bothering you.

[ForeignMuscle]

God you two are just keyboard warriors to the extreme. The internet is serious business!

Now lets end this with a obligatory
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlhdnwihXZ_lV7q0BL3WSeopnRZDFWw Ys2rL3Dk85gcTf_jfdX

You want in on this *snip?

You just googled a picture of a shirtless guy. Dumb fuck.

[innovation]

COME AT ME BRO! DO YOU EVEN LIFT?!

^^ haha he doesn't even know meme's.

Oh well least he'll be waiting at the finish line.

[exitspeed]

Wow, this thread iss exactly why Zilvia sucks now a days.

What a bunch of absolute rubbish spewed in this thing.

:blah:
This ^ Fucker here has said some of the dumbest shit I've red on here in years. Fuck, I don't even have the patience anymore to go back and quote you on all the 'tardedness and correct you. If this was 5 years ago I would have had the time and you'd have 3 red squares next to your name 20 minutes later.

Yes, I'm being an old cranky fucker. :lfault:

[PeaceOnesxWai]

All the things you can do with awd huh...

Off roading. Fuck yea, lets take our $20k car muddin'!!!

Snow. Yes definitely good for snow. But who said this kid is trying to scale a snowy mountain?

350awhp is plenty?? Thank you for telling us all what we want. Actually I think I will stick to my 600whp 2600lb s13. I must be a true rebel.

And vettes only meant to go fast. I love you dumb fucks coming out of the wood work to tell us what a vette was built for. The shit goes slow the same as any other car. You let off the skinny pedal.

Oh yea, all subaru owners are cool. Every fucking one of them so get a Subaru. God forbid you get a car who's "people" aren't cool.

OP, just go drive a vette and a sti and see which one is for you. If you don't drive in snow or need to carry 4 people then I bet you pick the vette. Not one person here has came with any facts besides myself and maybe one or two others. Just some half witted opinions from children who have never driven either vehicle.

I think you can find a C5 ZO6 for the money you have.

Dude, did someone fk you in the a with no lube?

Seem like your a old man thats close minded and doesnt like people on your lawn.. Go scoot some squirrels while the younger people go out and have some fun.

and yes, subaru people are alot nicer. Go on Nasioc and people are more kindly to give a part of their time to give you a link of what your looking for then tell you to google it yourself.

OP asks whats a better option, out of the two cars i driven and a subaru that ive personally owned.. the Subaru is the better choice. Hes asking for everyones opinion, not "I wonder what ForeignMuscle wants me to drive?" thread

THANK YOU!!! Now we all know. I bet you get all the hoes and bitches dawg.


....Actually I bet your single, covered in acne, live in your mom's basement and own nothing worth driving.

I'm pretty sure all 3.8billion females on Earth didn't agree on liking Euro cars.

The typical platinum blonde dumb fucking bitch loves a BMW though. You can bet on that. Go get you a beamer and you can have her.

Im saying in general fact that women, (Hot women, not your skunka as hood rat) prefer European when it comes to cars.

I have my own place, own a business, buy my own cars.

[DJ-of-E]

Also I dont think any car would pull chicks if you aint got game... I stacked my moms camry with 4 chicks, or maybe just my camrys a chick magnet? Great room, great MPG, guess why them hoes love that sexy ass car

Chicks in America prefer European cars, buy european. No volvo/vw tho

I say buy a E46 BMW. I had little trouble driving up the mountains to Big Bear snowing and it's pretty darn well balanced overall. Plus, people will just look at the badge and be like "oooh, you gotz teh beamerz!" Also as practical as a subby.

Seriously, I'm confused as to why Subby vs Corvette. Totally apples and oranges. Might as well compare a Toyota Prius and a Ford F150. One can help you buy another car, and the other can tow another ar.

[PeaceOnesxWai]

I bought it mother fucker so it does matter. Got any more useless shit to say that you want me to correct for you?

YOUR OPINION is exactly what I said it was. Not facts. Just a bunch of bullshit about old guys this, and young cars that.

Sounds like I'm really bothering you.


Its a stereo-type of what people view it as... same as your view as only douche bags drive subarus. Dont mean to flame on your favorite car but its just what the world view it as.


I say buy a E46 BMW. I had little trouble driving up the mountains to Big Bear snowing and it's pretty darn well balanced overall. Plus, people will just look at the badge and be like "oooh, you gotz teh beamerz!" Also as practical as a subby.

Seriously, I'm confused as to why Subby vs Corvette. Totally apples and oranges. Might as well compare a Toyota Prius and a Ford F150. One can help you buy another car, and the other can tow another ar.

For god sakes DO NOT buy a E46. The cooling system in those cars are garbage. Plastic everything and they crack.

No offense that you already have it but the design is just flawed

[DJ-of-E]

No offense that you already have it but the design is just flawed

None taken. Didn't have cooling troubles when I had it, but have heard about it. Traded it up for a Nissan 370z, that itself has its own problems :bash:

I do concur about the "plastics" everywhere.

[StryfeS13]

Lol wow. This has became a shit fest real quick. First of all, I would NEVER buy a car for it's "prestige" or because it "picks up chicks." I don't need a car for that, I'm engaged anyway. And I would NEVER even CONSIDER buying a german car. And I really don't care about the community of owners either. It's not their car.

I liked the Corvette because it appealed to me, I don't care if old men drive it or whatever. In my honest opinion I want/wanted one because I really don't think it gets better than a car with one of the most if not -the- most reliable v8 available, a transmission that could survive an apocalypse, and it makes all this power with no turbo...no nothing...just pure NA.

The reason I was considering the STI is because I am open to everything and not simple minded like most of the people in this thread....Like, I really fucking hate Mazda's but I'd still test drive one to see if I liked it before saying it sucks. etc.

And yes, ForeignMuscle, I know what the mileage of the STI is, that's why I posted on here asking if it's a lot for the price.

Honestly I don't really care about handling so that argument doesn't mean much to me. I mean, I want the car to be responsive and not feel like an old Cadillac, but it doesn't need to handle like it's on rails. I test drove my friends FR-S and it handles AMAZING but I really do feel like I can run faster than it.

[jamg]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5306/5629917669_837838939f_b.jpg

I've seen 600whp E36's sell for around $10-12k ish.

[HyperTek]

back when i held a steady job a few years ago, i was looking at 350z, s2k, and to a lesser extent the EVO... Since I grew up around nissans, I was certain to look for a track model Z.. I never fell through with it.

Now I think the 350z looks a bit old, and the 370z's interior is a HUGE improvement in design.

The late model EVO just seems cheap to me, imo its a supped economy car.

[BrownDogg]

At the end of the day... drive them both which it sounds like you've done or are doing. See which one you like better over all based off of whats important to you and get that one! Both are honestly badass cars in the grand scheme of cars that someone could buy.

As to the mileage issue with the Subaru. I would recommend looking up all the maintenance that is required around that mileage (like 100K miles) and make sure the proper things have been done. Ex: timing belt, spark plugs, fluids, etc. Just basic stuff. That will give you some good insight as to whether the guy truly took car of the car or not. Same goes for the Vette. How a person maintains their car says a lot about the car.

And who pissed in ForeignMuscles Cheerios! Sheesh! Watch out folks. He bought his girl a car so its important. In case you guys didn't know... He is kind of a big deal.

[theronin]

This thread is serious business.

[BossHogg]

You really have to come to what is really needed. I mean is this just a pure fun car? A 4 door turbo sedan and a corvette are two totally different things. 4 seater, 4 door, 4 cylinder compared to a two seater v8 purely sold on its "racing" background? I mean should I buy a minivan or a crotch rocket? As much as I would never buy a corvette, I would have to say it wins this battle if it is purely a fun, weekend, back road cruising car. Not to take away from the subaru at all. I know what they are capable of, hell I was once in the market for one myself for practical utility reasons.

There are two many variables to look at. Do you have 2 stacks of high society just chilling to throw freely and do you plan on modding? If you can buy the vette out right and still have cash to "mod" or freshen it up, i think it would be much more of a fun car. RWD, v8, can make more power than needed "if" wanted, has plenty of racing background if you decide to take it down that path. Plus you can have that v8 rumble.

The whole stereo type thing is no reason to judge owning a car. Hell I watched the 240 scene blow up into this rice infested fanboy drift craze. Which resulted in watching many 240 enthusiasts sell their car because of fear of it becoming the new civic and how it would reflect their image back in the early 2000's. As long as you build it properly you always will be ahead of the "stereotype". If you truly like or care about something, you put in the extra time, money and effort.

choose, build, drive what you want man. It's just that simple. If it was me, I would invest the 20 large and in 20 years when I'm a douchebag old man with small penis in my midlife crisis, I would buy a brand new 2033 corvette. lol I got jokes.

[spooled240]

back when i held a steady job a few years ago, i was looking at 350z, s2k, and to a lesser extent the EVO... Since I grew up around nissans, I was certain to look for a track model Z.. I never fell through with it.

Now I think the 350z looks a bit old, and the 370z's interior is a HUGE improvement in design.

The late model EVO just seems cheap to me, imo its a supped economy car.

that's how the EVO's are supposed to be: an econobox with a beefy 4g63, awd and brembos..I love it lol

[drscooper]

fuck everything said buy a lambo.

[Homeboyx]

Fuck everything else, buy a bicycle. :snoop:

[Initial_R90]

Being I've owned a multiple 240's with swaps a LS240 a 350z a Evo and c5 Z06 and C6Zo6

I'm gonna go and say hands down the best motor is any LS series Great power from the start good MPG a (c5 has better mpg then a STI)

130k miles on Sti Is a tired car


if you have 20k to spend buy a fixed roof coupe for 17k and put the rest into it.
A guy down the street has a blower on his unopened auto LS1. oem heads,cam,crank and has over 1000 9 second passes on his car.

if its something you want to drive everyday I would not suggest the Vette

[godsmack]

As others have said take both for a ride and decide from there. Don't know if you're gonna daily or what kind of weather you encounter but in my area the vette is really only a weekend warrior car.

Now with me already driving a c5 and c6 zo6 I have to say they are an extremely awesome car to drive. Got a ride in a ZR already and that thing gave me full chub at 1/4 throttle. As far as the subbie I got to drive a 2012 wrx and that thing is also fun. In my opinion handles better than the the vette and the acceleration is fun but not as fun as the vette.

Overall my opinion would be subbie for dd and a vette for weekend fun.

[TougeLove]

WOW. this thread is fun lol.

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anywho.

a 4dr or 2 seater? ummmm completely different cars.

I have a 2011 WRX and love it. STi wasnt that much greater considering I take mine camping, trails, etc. I didnt need an sti to do those things, plus i would rather build a faster WRX than spend an extra 5-8k on an sti depending if it is used or not.

I would have to agree with a few people that the SUBARU community is MUCH better than the corvette community as I HAVE BEEN TO BOTH MEETS. Friend ran a C6 ZR1 and got shit from other owners because they are too fat and bald to appreciate a nice car.

if you enjoy driving fast, do you want to stay on the mountain or slide off of it? :bite:


Have you tried Nasioc.com? there are FAR better deals going right now. 06-07 sti with under 50k miles for 19-21k.

[stinky_180]

All the things you can do with awd huh...

Off roading. Fuck yea, lets take our $20k car muddin'!!!

Snow. Yes definitely good for snow. But who said this kid is trying to scale a snowy mountain?

350awhp is plenty?? Thank you for telling us all what we want. Actually I think I will stick to my 600whp 2600lb s13. I must be a true rebel.

Oh yea, all subaru owners are cool. Every fucking one of them so get a Subaru. God forbid you get a car who's "people" aren't cool.


i take my completely stock subaru wrx wagon rallycrossing almost on a monthly basis, it is a fun motorsport.

you're obviously posting here because of your e-thug status, no one gives a sh!t about your opinion.

to the op, if you're looking for something more practical, a sedan/5 seater will be better suited for you. you can also get a wagon/hatch for more cargo space (even more with a roof rack). if you don't care about the above, get the corvette by all means.

for ~20k you have a lot of different options.

[4nmusle]

no one gives a sh!t about your opinion.

Oh really? How long did it take you to read all those messages and type a response? lol

[undercoverdjay]

you're obviously posting here because of your e-thug status, no one gives a sh!t about your opinion.

The dude even made another account to get around being pinked.
for ~20k you have a lot of different options.

Truth! For 20K you can get a variety of nicer cars that aren't the "norm." I personally hate seeing the same cars over and over on the road, hence why I bought my 300ZX. I've gotten more looks, compliments, and questions about my Z32 than any other car I've owned.

I'm not saying you should buy a Z32, but it's one example of many that you can get for ~20k.

A lot of people get so hung up on HP numbers, they forget that something doesn't have to make boring 9 second passes all day to be fun. I found a mild 400whp SR20 powered S13 to be one of the most fun of them all. Boost came on strong and early, a strong powerband and power never fell off.

It was infinitely faster than the bolt on LS cars on the highway in my area. Way more fun to drive, easy to handle, and cheap to maintain.

I've driven Gen4 F-Bodies, one 478whp 04 Cobra, C5s/C6s, and they just have a disconnected feeling. Something about them feels incomplete. I got out of that Cobra and into my S14 and immediately felt more connected to the road with WAY more visibility and noticeably lower center of gravity.

These are just a few examples of how I gauge cars, but everyone is different. Even my Z32 vs a S chassis is an entirely different car. Drive them all, buy what you fall in love with. Period. I would never ask someone what I should or shouldn't buy, I only ask experts of each what to expect during ownership.

[WanganRunner]

Idk man. Something about an evo screams "chick car" to me. But I like a few.

Never heard that one before.

I'm not sure who said it, but STi's also understeer MORE than Evos from the factory, at least any Evo with AYC. The STi's entirely mechanical AWD system grips through corners whereas an Evo, when driven hard (again with AYC) will employ a very mild controlled slide.

Having been a WRX owner I will confirm that the 5MT is garbage. Get an STi with the 6MT or forget about it.


Find either a C5 Z06 or a normal C5 that someone has supercharged, either can be had for $20k.

A blown C5 is going to be in a different universe than an STi.

[driftracerx]

go with the vette , sti owners all cry babies

[TougeLove]

go with the vette , sti owners all cry babies

oh the internet. Where one can simply spew his or hers illogical opinions and believes it to be the ending truth with no fact or real reason.

Care to elaborate?

[driftracerx]

you just cried about my post , I think you just elaborated for me

[towlie]

Dang someone flush this shit down the toilet..

Mazdaspeed6 are chill. Nice all around car. Yes for the gf no for me tho

Corvette interiors to me just seem like they were taken directly from the Tahoe or something. So basic (in a bad way). The godly motor makes up for this, but it could still come to bother me personally

S2000 I've always hated!!... until i drove one. Boy were my eyes opened haha.

I'd say op just test drive and shop around and find something that truly appeals to u.. Asking zilvia may have been the wrong choice lol

[driftracerx]

I'd say op just test drive and shop around and find something that truly appeals to u.. Asking zilvia may have been the wrong choice lol

I agree just test drive both of them

[240boi115]

just came back to this bish!!!! HAS A DECISION BEEN MADE!?!?!?!?!?