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*StryfeS13* · 03-24-2013, 11:23 PM

So I have about ~20K to spend and I'm looking for a newer car.

I have been considering an STi or a C5 Vette.

I've found one STi locally that has 130k miles on it...is that a lot for an H4 engine? I really have never worked on any H4's besides those in Honda Goldwings.

wrx sti

And as for the vette...I want one because the engine is so simplistic and easy to work on, with minimal mods you get great power, looks bad ass...etc..but I test drove that STi and fell in love immediately.

Pretty much is 15.5k too much for that STi with that mileage, and what other cars are worth mentioning in my price range? I was considering an FR-S but the performance is really lacking IMO...can't think of many other newer cars that are even appealing besides these 3.

towlie · 03-24-2013, 11:27 PM

Hmm no evo??

Hanzi · 03-24-2013, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by towlie

Hmm no evo??

this made my night. The evo has to be black. LMAO

Bambi · 03-24-2013, 11:35 PM

STi is great and it's practical. But why not the WRX? Especially if you plan on modifying the car. Save yourself some money, at least for parts and or insurance, etc.

As for the Vette, I worked at Chevy before and met maybe one or two cool Vette owners. The rest were douche bags, people who bought the car just because "omg vetta, 'MERICA!," 'trophy wives, and very old dudes. Can't stand most of those people. Almost as bad as Camaro owners. And trust me, while the engine may be "simple," at least more so than the WRX's.

I've sat in and driven many vettes. Of most generations too. They're interiors, well, Chevy's interiors wear and tear very quickly and all the switches go bad quickly too. By the way, I'm a pretty short-ish guy and the car still feels a bit small. So if your near or more than 6 foot it's by no means a comfortable car to be in for a long time.

WRX's are very fun, have a HUGE community and aftermarket support, many shops that work on them, and the dealership around my area alone are known to be very welcoming and friendly to their WRX customers.

1 vote for STi/WRX

towlie · 03-24-2013, 11:36 PM

??^ I was serious lol

Never been a fan of sti's. don't like the motor and the inherent understeer. Vettes are chill but they seem to come with a stigma of douchebaggery. My opinion here, fellas.

Fr-s are insanely awesome but I agree on low hp. On those I'd wait and see what the aftermarket coughs up for power solutions.

That leaves.. Newer 350z, maybe 370, evo, maybe s2k?

I'd go with the evo

*StryfeS13* · 03-24-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by towlie

Hmm no evo??

Idk man. Something about an evo screams "chick car" to me. But I like a few.

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Originally Posted by Bambi

STi is great and it's practical. But why not the WRX? Especially if you plan on modifying the car. Save yourself some money, at least for parts and or insurance, etc.

As for the Vette, I worked at Chevy before and met maybe one or two cool Vette owners. The rest were douche bags, people who bought the car just because "omg vetta, 'MERICA!," 'trophy wives, and very old dudes. Can't stand most of those people. Almost as bad as Camaro owners. And trust me, while the engine may be "simple," at least more so than the WRX's.

I've sat in and driven many vettes. Of most generations too. They're interiors, well, Chevy's interiors wear and tear very quickly and all the switches go bad quickly too. By the way, I'm a pretty short-ish guy and the car still feels a bit small. So if your near or more than 6 foot it's by no means a comfortable car to be in for a long time.

WRX's are very fun, have a HUGE community and aftermarket support, many shops that work on them, and the dealership around my area alone are known to be very welcoming and friendly to their WRX customers.

1 vote for STi/WRX.

Why take the WRX over the STI? Sorry..I'm a 240 guy at heart and I have never really researched a lot about the Subaru's. And is the 130k mileage alot for the EJ?

Yeah..I'm 6'5". Dunno if I'd fit in the Vette.

*StryfeS13* · 03-24-2013, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by towlie

??^ I was serious lol

Never been a fan of sti's. don't like the motor and the inherent understeer. Vettes are chill but they seem to come with a stigma of douchebaggery. My opinion here, fellas.

Fr-s are insanely awesome but I agree on low hp. On those I'd wait and see what the aftermarket coughs up for power solutions.

That leaves.. Newer 350z, maybe 370, evo, maybe s2k?

I'd go with the evo

350z is outta the picture. 370z maybe, I'll have to look at them. S2K I'll consider..

InsTanCeZ · 03-24-2013, 11:47 PM

evo understeers more than sti from what ive heard, but either way if you tune it properly it shouldn't be a problem

towlie · 03-24-2013, 11:49 PM

Chick car lol I have never heard that about an evo. Vw YES, lancer maybe, evolution is mans car.

Subarus can take tons of mileage as long as you keep the drivetrain/awd system serviced.. That's always the first to go, 220k is nothing new

If you're a 240 man at heart I'd go with the mitsu!! The motor is so similar to an sr

Bambi · 03-24-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StryfeS13

Idk man. Something about an evo screams "chick car" to me. But I like a few.

Why take the WRX over the STI? Sorry..I'm a 240 guy at heart and I have never really researched a lot about the Subaru's. And is the 130k mileage alot for the EJ?

Yeah..I'm 6'5". Dunno if I'd fit in the Vette.

There's very slight differences between the two to justify buying an STi. For one, the STi does have a larger turbo BUT that comes with extra turbo lag. I really, really recommend you do something as simple as "(whatever year) STi vs. WRX" and you'll find threads upon threads of comparssions and reasons why to get one over the other. Just pick the one that suits you.

As far as miles goes, these engines can be extremely reliable with care and maintenance. Just as with any car it depends on how the owner took care of it.

InsTanCeZ · 03-24-2013, 11:54 PM

STi's are cool but I prefer RWD cars, they're just more fun to drive.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-24-2013, 11:55 PM

How about a Mazdaspeed 6? I swear they are a freaking blast to drive and hug the road like a train on tracks. yes they are heavy and feel heavy, but with some HP mods they Freaking fly, and the drivetrain can hold over 500whp without any issues as long as you replace the stock rods and stock mounts.

They are AWD 2.3 Turbo disi and sell for like 11-12k. that + 5k in mods and you have 400whp easily and still get around 22-25mpg

not only that but they are totally sleeper.. look like a common car, and they are rare. but their awd is awesome. Also you can shut off the awd when you want to and just go fwd for extra MPG

KiLLeR2001 · 03-24-2013, 11:56 PM

WRX/STi pretty relax and chill group of people. I have a few friends with Subies. Vette owners? Not so much. Another friendly community from what I've seen is the NSX guys.

InsTanCeZ · 03-24-2013, 11:57 PM

^^^ Yeah I was gonna say NSX, but idk if the newer ones are still in your price range?

OrangeVirus1 · 03-24-2013, 11:59 PM

Also btw I think the WRX special edition ( or what ever it's called the better looking one ) comes with an STI turbo.

booey13 · 03-25-2013, 12:00 AM

Don't quote me on it but if I remember correctly the sti's had beefier drivetrains

OrangeVirus1 · 03-25-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by booey13

Don't quote me on it but if I remember correctly the sti's had beefier drivetrains

true. the wrx drivetrains are made of glass.

Another thing to the STi, they literally have a Horsepower button/dial. You can choose between like economy mode, street mode, sport mode etc and the boost goes up with each.

Economy mode vs sport mode is like a minivan vs a STi lol

Bambi · 03-25-2013, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by booey13

Don't quote me on it but if I remember correctly the sti's had beefier drivetrains

AH yes, they're transmissions handle abuse better. Only lot of people wish they had made the regular 5 speed plus a 6th because the STi's 6 speed gear ratios aren't very liked. But the WRX's 5 speed is loved- just more fragile and no 6th gear for freeway cruising.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-25-2013, 12:04 AM

Another thing to the STi ( at least the 2012 one my friend has ) you can adust the Transfer case/ differential for a bunch of different stuff electronically. just some buttons make the ride different from a comfy car to a rally machine

ForeignMuscle · 03-25-2013, 12:05 AM

Bambi, your talkin' straight shit.

I'm 6'3" and I fit in c5 and c6's with room to spare.

Switches go out quickly.. WTF? Are you just a shop tech or how many vettes have you owned? We can compare if you'd like. My girlfriend also has an 06 Trailblazer SS with over 100k miles that still smells new, drives new, and all the switches work like new..

Interior wears? I can show a picture of 3 or 4 c5's and a couple c6's with mileage racking up and perfect interior. 240sx interior falls apart. Not a vettes.

Oh and the owners are douchebags. Real great reason to not buy a car...

OP, the two cars you listed are in different leagues.

You need to be looking at c5 zo6's. I know of several nice locals for around that price.

Have you actually driven a vette yet? It is not like anything else you will ever drive again. You have to decide what you're looking for though. Wanting one of these two just doesn't make sense. Either you want a vette or you want a 4 door sedan..

OrangeVirus1 · 03-25-2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

Oh and the owners are douchebags. Real great reason to not buy a car...

I can personally account that unless you like to drive alone, keep to yourself and never go to car events.. IT FUCKING SUCKS to be part of a crowd of assholes.

Just join the mazdaspeed Douchebag community and find out.You could have a badass car, c5 twin turbo 1000HP but man when you are around nothing but assholes who have their own head shoved so far up their ass and talk down to your car... it makes you switch.

The craziest thing is the nicest chillest people I met owned NISSANS AND HONDAS.. WTF RIGHT? honda? ricer? no I have met alot of really chill honda owners.
Not even going to lie, I bought a 240sx after meeting with some of the Nissan people here, and they were super chill, super nice, and gave me ZERO SHIT about me choosing the RB20 engine If I was gonna get a 240sx. They said that's cool man leme know if you need any help, hit us up at our shop you're welcome to come in.

but if you buy a sick ass car and everyone around is like " shoulda done that" " oh why you turbo bro you should of supercharged and NOS for mad powa" look at my Corvette I have a small dick ( lol )

KiLLeR2001 · 03-25-2013, 12:09 AM

Also, 2004 is the bastard child for the STi. They made a lot of key upgrades for the 2005 model. I was having this discussion with my friend who owns an '05 STi the other day.

Bambi · 03-25-2013, 12:10 AM

You're right, I've only seen, been in, and driven a shit ton of them myself among all the other pieces of crap Chevy makes. My bad bro, my bad.
Also I would like to say Corvette owners are douchebags. The majority of them. All of the Corvette-specific techs. at Chevy hated them and having to hear from the owners/customers was a nightmare for them.

I honestly do not understand why you're comparing it to an old Nissan other than to somehow be hopeful somebody defends a 240sx's interior. lol

OrangeVirus1 · 03-25-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

I honestly do not understand why you're comparing it to an old Nissan other than to somehow be hopeful somebody defends a 240sx's interior. lol

I would without a doubt defend that the 240sx interior is the fastest fall-apart interior of any car I have ever owned. ever. even my old ass beat up eclipse didn't even have ripped seats

Bambi · 03-25-2013, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by orangevirus1

i would without a doubt defend that the 240sx interior is the fastest fall-apart interior of any car i have ever owned. Ever. Even my old ass beat up eclipse didn't even have ripped seats

yeah bro but how many cars have you owned.

Also to op, you can PM if you need any helpful links about the WRX.

Homeboyx · 03-25-2013, 12:16 AM

The NSX.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-25-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

yeah bro but how many cars have you owned.

Also to op, you can PM if you need any helpful links about the WRX.

9 used and 2 new
1985 Fiero GT
1994 Ford probe ( worst car I ever owned )
1996 eclipse GST
1996 eclipse GS ( I swear to god all joking aside I traded an xbox 360 for this car )
1995 eclipse GSX
1997 Eclipse GST
1989 Conquest Tsi
1987 conquest Tsi
1992 240sx

New :
2010 Dodge caliber
2011 Mazda 3 2.5 S

coupesallday! · 03-25-2013, 12:19 AM

I'd get a scion frs or brz. Heck even a Hyundai genesis coupe

OrangeVirus1 · 03-25-2013, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by coupesallday!

I'd get a scion frs or brz. Heck even a Hyundai genesis coupe

ah yeah the new Genesis coupe is V8! or the 3.8 + Twin turbo / supercharger.

the 3.8's sound awesome

*StryfeS13* · 03-25-2013, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeignMuscle

You need to be looking at c5 zo6's. I know of several nice locals for around that price.

Have you actually driven a vette yet? It is not like anything else you will ever drive again. You have to decide what you're looking for though. Wanting one of these two just doesn't make sense. Either you want a vette or you want a 4 door sedan..

Nah I haven't driven one yet. What do you mean it's not like anything else I will ever drive again?

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Originally Posted by coupesallday!

I'd get a scion frs or brz. Heck even a Hyundai genesis coupe

I wanted to but I'm the type of person that needs some power and the frs/brz does not have that. A stock 240sx is faster I swear. I'll check out the genesis.

03-24-2013, 11:47 PM	#8
InsTanCeZ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Queen City Age: 28 Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	evo understeers more than sti from what ive heard, but either way if you tune it properly it shouldn't be a problem __________________ *ACE マジック HEART*

03-24-2013, 11:54 PM	#11
InsTanCeZ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Queen City Age: 28 Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	STi's are cool but I prefer RWD cars, they're just more fun to drive. __________________ *ACE マジック HEART*

03-24-2013, 11:56 PM	#13
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	WRX/STi pretty relax and chill group of people. I have a few friends with Subies. Vette owners? Not so much. Another friendly community from what I've seen is the NSX guys. __________________

03-24-2013, 11:57 PM	#14
InsTanCeZ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Queen City Age: 28 Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^ Yeah I was gonna say NSX, but idk if the newer ones are still in your price range? __________________ *ACE マジック HEART*

03-25-2013, 12:00 AM	#16
booey13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Midwest Age: 31 Posts: 1,401 Trader Rating: (91) Feedback Score: 91 reviews	Don't quote me on it but if I remember correctly the sti's had beefier drivetrains __________________ www.monkeyboysyo.blogspot.com

03-24-2013, 11:27 PM	#2
towlie Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,496 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Hmm no evo??

03-24-2013, 11:36 PM	#5
towlie Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,496 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	??^ I was serious lol Never been a fan of sti's. don't like the motor and the inherent understeer. Vettes are chill but they seem to come with a stigma of douchebaggery. My opinion here, fellas. Fr-s are insanely awesome but I agree on low hp. On those I'd wait and see what the aftermarket coughs up for power solutions. That leaves.. Newer 350z, maybe 370, evo, maybe s2k? I'd go with the evo

03-24-2013, 11:49 PM	#9
towlie Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,496 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Chick car lol I have never heard that about an evo. Vw YES, lancer maybe, evolution is mans car. Subarus can take tons of mileage as long as you keep the drivetrain/awd system serviced.. That's always the first to go, 220k is nothing new If you're a 240 man at heart I'd go with the mitsu!! The motor is so similar to an sr

03-24-2013, 11:55 PM	#12
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How about a Mazdaspeed 6? I swear they are a freaking blast to drive and hug the road like a train on tracks. yes they are heavy and feel heavy, but with some HP mods they Freaking fly, and the drivetrain can hold over 500whp without any issues as long as you replace the stock rods and stock mounts. They are AWD 2.3 Turbo disi and sell for like 11-12k. that + 5k in mods and you have 400whp easily and still get around 22-25mpg not only that but they are totally sleeper.. look like a common car, and they are rare. but their awd is awesome. Also you can shut off the awd when you want to and just go fwd for extra MPG

03-24-2013, 11:59 PM	#15
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Also btw I think the WRX special edition ( or what ever it's called the better looking one ) comes with an STI turbo.

03-25-2013, 12:04 AM	#19
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Another thing to the STi ( at least the 2012 one my friend has ) you can adust the Transfer case/ differential for a bunch of different stuff electronically. just some buttons make the ride different from a comfy car to a rally machine

03-25-2013, 12:05 AM	#20
ForeignMuscle Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ya momma's house Posts: 860 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Bambi, your talkin' straight shit. I'm 6'3" and I fit in c5 and c6's with room to spare. Switches go out quickly.. WTF? Are you just a shop tech or how many vettes have you owned? We can compare if you'd like. My girlfriend also has an 06 Trailblazer SS with over 100k miles that still smells new, drives new, and all the switches work like new.. Interior wears? I can show a picture of 3 or 4 c5's and a couple c6's with mileage racking up and perfect interior. 240sx interior falls apart. Not a vettes. Oh and the owners are douchebags. Real great reason to not buy a car... OP, the two cars you listed are in different leagues. You need to be looking at c5 zo6's. I know of several nice locals for around that price. Have you actually driven a vette yet? It is not like anything else you will ever drive again. You have to decide what you're looking for though. Wanting one of these two just doesn't make sense. Either you want a vette or you want a 4 door sedan..

03-25-2013, 12:09 AM	#22
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	Also, 2004 is the bastard child for the STi. They made a lot of key upgrades for the 2005 model. I was having this discussion with my friend who owns an '05 STi the other day. __________________

03-25-2013, 12:16 AM	#26
Homeboyx Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 30 Posts: 228 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The NSX.

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