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palummi5
03-20-2013, 07:44 PM
Why have kouki prices went retardedly high over the past 2-5 months?!?! I remember last February I almost pulled the trigger on a 97se with a rb25 that was very nicely done, for 12k. Now on the Baltimore CL there is a 97le with a interior that's not very desirable (sivler-goldish with flake on trim) and a s14 sr.. 15750!!!! Yes DOLLARS. Just feel like I'm the only I one that is seeing this. I'm in jersey btw.

tacotacotaco
03-20-2013, 07:56 PM
Supply and demand. Simple economics. If someone posts it high and it sells then prices get pushed high. If it's posted high and doesn't sell then as they continue to lower price prices should go down. There'sno fixed price to a 240 it all depends on how desperate someone is for money quick or how desperate someone is to get a clean one quick. Real koukis were rare to begin with.

ultimateforce
03-20-2013, 08:20 PM
Drift tax.

JustDrift240sx
03-20-2013, 08:24 PM
They've become more desirable...plus summer is just around the corner. A lot of people need derp-mobiles unfortunately. :mephfawk:

palummi5
03-20-2013, 09:22 PM
Supply and demand. Simple economics. If someone posts it high and it sells then prices get pushed high. If it's posted high and doesn't sell then as they continue to lower price prices should go down. There'sno fixed price to a 240 it all depends on how desperate someone is for money quick or how desperate someone is to get a clean one quick. Real koukis were rare to begin with.


Good point. I'm just curious because like I said its really just been recently.

palummi5
03-20-2013, 09:23 PM
Drift tax.

Keep drifting cheap haha

tacotacotaco
03-20-2013, 09:27 PM
They're on the tax return summer, bad time to buy cars timing. Plus a lot of new 240 people dont really know what 240s go for. They're preying on that group. I remember someone at our meet posted a junk box s13 for 7k. They arent really on the forums nor do they have a pulse on whats going on in our community or what stuff is selling for, thats what they felt it was worth even tho to me it was shit. Months later theyre still sitting on the car and will constantly lower it till it sells.

240boi115
03-20-2013, 10:01 PM
Drift tax.

true dat lol its not just s14 koukis though... its every 240 man. im seeing bucket s13s going for 5500 and im like whaaaaaat??? and its auto?!?!?!:bite:

S14kouki_10
03-20-2013, 10:13 PM
cause theyre rare af... white rhino rare

lude4life13
03-21-2013, 12:26 AM
Mine has increased value since i got it and its a conversion with a salvage title. I was about to buy an FD and i had 3 offers over what i paid from friends of friends etc.

Sumslapper
03-21-2013, 01:08 AM
I also noticed they've been going higher in the Bay Area and Sacramento. Anywhere from 8-14k depending on condition and mods. Glad I picked mine up 5 years ago!

blueshark123
03-21-2013, 08:23 AM
To keep broke fucks away from destroying more kouki's and instead in s13's.

2muchboost
03-21-2013, 09:02 AM
^lmao....well played sir.

palummi5
03-21-2013, 09:08 AM
To keep broke fucks away from destroying more kouki's and instead in s13's.

THIS. I hate seeing a kouki all hacked up man.

ManoNegra
03-21-2013, 09:09 AM
What's up with the constant whining about the costs of things?
Either buy it or don't, capitalism doesn't give a shit about your broke ass.

!Zar!
03-21-2013, 09:33 AM
Just because they are asking that much doesn't mean they will receive that much.

palummi5
03-21-2013, 10:01 AM
What's up with the constant whining about the costs of things?
Either buy it or don't, capitalism doesn't give a shit about your broke ass.

no whining... but you're crazy if you think a 97 le with a stock sr is worth 15,750 then I feel for your wallet.. because you my friend are getting ripped off. for that price I better see a fully built sr and a 350z tranny!

Sleepy_Steve
03-21-2013, 10:21 AM
I know MA240sx forums does a good job of trolling local CL postings within a decent radius of the Baltimore / DC area pretty much all the time. -- Might want to try stopping by there to see if we've found anything decent lately.

S14a / Kouki prices have always been high, there were less than 3k of them that made it into the US total according to Wikipedia, so supply is quite tight when you figure that about half of those cars aren't on the road any more. Add in the fact that people seem to like the front end style on a 97-98 more than the much higher production zenki's, you get much higher prices.

But to restate what others have said, its only worth what someone's willing to pay. If you don't feel the price is reasonable for what you're getting, then you don't have a deal. Never be afraid to walk away from a bad deal, see pawn-stars for examples of how to do it right.

ixfxi
03-21-2013, 10:23 AM
no whining... but you're crazy if you think a 97 le with a stock sr is worth 15,750 then I feel for your wallet.. because you my friend are getting ripped off. for that price I better see a fully built sr and a 350z tranny!

you are a stupid fucking idiot

you can take two identical cars

both with SR motor swaps

one is janky and the wiring is sloppy, the engine is in need of service and neglected
then the other is perfect, OEM install, and well maintained

you need to learn how to properly evaluate the value of something

nevermind, you're from jersey

palummi5
03-21-2013, 10:34 AM
you are a stupid fucking idiot

you can take two identical cars

both with SR motor swaps

one is janky and the wiring is sloppy, the engine is in need of service and neglected
then the other is perfect, OEM install, and well maintained

you need to learn how to properly evaluate the value of something

nevermind, you're from jersey


http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/495283-1998-black-s14-kouki-fully-built-s15-sr20det.html .. Btw I never said anything about a sloppy install. No need to be arrogant.

palummi5
03-21-2013, 10:44 AM
I know MA240sx forums does a good job of trolling local CL postings within a decent radius of the Baltimore / DC area pretty much all the time. -- Might want to try stopping by there to see if we've found anything decent lately.

S14a / Kouki prices have always been high, there were less than 3k of them that made it into the US total according to Wikipedia, so supply is quite tight when you figure that about half of those cars aren't on the road any more. Add in the fact that people seem to like the front end style on a 97-98 more than the much higher production zenki's, you get much higher prices.

But to restate what others have said, its only worth what someone's willing to pay. If you don't feel the price is reasonable for what you're getting, then you don't have a deal. Never be afraid to walk away from a bad deal, see pawn-stars for examples of how to do it right.

Awsome reply. I have before as I said in the original post. I should have bought that car though... :sadface:

silviaks2nr
03-21-2013, 10:50 AM
I think that car is priced completely fair given how nice it is. I wouldn't sell my '98 for that price let alone list it for that. If you want a quality car for less money you should look at different models, IMO. Modded kouki s14s are few and far between in that nice of condition.

for $15k you can get a 600hp evo if that seems like more for your money.

KOUKIboy
03-21-2013, 10:56 AM
DRFT Tax!!! and everybody and their mom want's one lol, Economics; the law of Supply and Demand...

KiLLeR2001
03-21-2013, 11:08 AM
Only 5833 original '97-'98 S14 240SX's were ever made. Think about that number for a minute.

Let's put this in perspective for you...

RX7 FD... production count of 13879.
MKIV Supra... production count of 11239.

boostdd
03-21-2013, 11:25 AM
I picked the wrong time to get back into a s chassis , prices are ridiculous

Sleepy_Steve
03-21-2013, 12:24 PM
I picked the wrong time to get back into a s chassis , prices are ridiculous

Good thing there were 5.5 zenki S14's available for each Kouki out there. 32448 vs 5833.

*Looks like I was remembering only the '98 number in my previous post?

silviaks2nr
03-21-2013, 12:28 PM
Good thing there were 5.5 zenki S14's available for each Kouki out there. 32448 vs 5833.

*Looks like I was remembering only the '98 number in my previous post?

I think there were around 1400 in 1998. I'm sure it says on the wikipedia. Funny enough a pic of my car (stock) is on the wiki.

fliprayzin240sx
03-21-2013, 10:51 PM
$15k for a fully built S15 SR'd real Kouki S14? You think thats fucking expensive? You'd spend over $30k trying to replicate all that. Then throw in the fact that there is almost no Kouki S14 in the northeast.

OrangeVirus1
03-21-2013, 11:00 PM
Don't you know when the economy turns to shit everything goes up in price because everyone is broke and trying to get that $$

fliprayzin240sx
03-21-2013, 11:02 PM
Just cuz you're broke doesnt mean everybody else is. Doesnt mean the owner is either. Some people just got old for these cars and wants to move on to something better, more age appropriate.

OrangeVirus1
03-21-2013, 11:32 PM
Just cuz you're broke doesnt mean everybody else is. Doesnt mean the owner is either. Some people just got old for these cars and wants to move on to something better, more age appropriate.

I'm not broke.

palummi5
03-24-2013, 06:29 PM
$15k for a fully built S15 SR'd real Kouki S14? You think thats fucking expensive? You'd spend over $30k trying to replicate all that. Then throw in the fact that there is almost no Kouki S14 in the northeast.

I used it as a comparison. That's what 15k SHOULD get you... Not a basic swap. Learn to read. You all jump to conclusions way to fast. Read where you left off not the newest comment.

wackintheballs
03-26-2013, 01:03 AM
IMO, it's worth every penny..... that's my 2 cents. if I had that type of money to blow away, I would pick it up as fast as I can and DRIFT THE SHIT OUTTA IT

palummi5
03-27-2013, 11:10 PM
^ if you mean the link I posted to the PA car I agree.

Tampwns
03-27-2013, 11:29 PM
Because of high demand , prices went up . Some people take advantage of the fact it did go up by skyrocketing it .

DJ 21o3
03-27-2013, 11:51 PM
I bought a virgin rust free zenki for 6.5k. Why? Because I needed a car that was completely clean and straight, and had never seen salt (Car was from Arizona). It will become my "dream" project car that I am dedicated to.
Sure I could of bought a built rust free Zenki for not much more but it depends on what the buyer wants. Plus i didnt have to spend any money on shipping. lol

Koukis are even worse now, as they have jumped at least 2k compared to last year when I started searching. Everyone nailed it, supply and demand.

yetijeff
03-27-2013, 11:57 PM
Even s13's have sky rocketed. It's been really tempting me to sell... But I really don't want too lol