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bubba350
06-02-2010, 01:27 AM
hi i was wondering what is the best s14 coilovers?
either ride quality or based on price?
let me know thanx
boobs13
06-02-2010, 01:35 AM
D-maxs are pretty legit
try these.
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/325220-megan-street-coilovers-cheap.html
bubba350
06-02-2010, 01:41 AM
hows the ride on the megans?
GunmetalSR
06-02-2010, 01:54 AM
streets are pretty good and tracks ull give u a back acke but for the quality and cash power shop max coils are amazing
yingiang
06-02-2010, 02:14 AM
POWERED BY MAX
Dampening is incredible along with the factory 10/8k springs.
Ride is pretty do-able at lowest dampening setting with the 10/8k springs.
Ride is super stiff at full hard dampening setting...you could feel the grooves in the road. THAT INTENSE.
I've got mine set 2 clicks hard in front and rear. Drifts awesome and handles great.
Only ran about a $1,000.
pink godzila
06-02-2010, 02:19 AM
Even you have the best coilover but still if your driving level cannot match up with the coilover then is the waste.
I recommand start up with PBM/D-Max then go up to Apex N1 or if you have more money to spend then go with DG5. DG5 FTW....
Pandapants
06-02-2010, 02:28 AM
Best, is subjective.
DG5s, however, are a lot cheaper than I thought they were.
pink godzila
06-02-2010, 02:32 AM
Pretty much most of the car in D1 are using DG5.... Thoese are on top of the BEST...
03redTuscani
06-02-2010, 02:36 AM
I thoroughly enjoy my Tein Flex. Solid ride, yet comfortable. My kidneys love it.
Just dialed in my Tein Super Drift and its pretty good. Ride quality isn't too bad on full soft and you easily feel the difference as you increase it. Not to mention you can go stupidly low, which is kinda odd for tein...
Pandapants
06-02-2010, 02:49 AM
Pretty much most of the car in D1 are using DG5.... Thoese are on top of the BEST...
That doesn't justify their quality though. That's like saying almost everyone in Germany let Nazis kill jews during the holocaust so it must be ok.
yarou
06-02-2010, 02:51 AM
Quantum?
Moton?
Nismo R Tune Coilovers :)
mattack69
06-02-2010, 03:53 AM
Moton?
^^.
But it sounds like you need to figure your driving style as mentioned above. DG5, PBM, Stance, D-Max all are good but are you gonna really use them to the potential they were made for? If this is your first set I'd rock some PBM. I'm running some Tanabe Sustec Pro 2's and they suit me fine on and of track.
s14_sr20_silvia
06-02-2010, 04:48 AM
Just dialed in my Tein Super Drift and its pretty good. Ride quality isn't too bad on full soft and you easily feel the difference as you increase it. Not to mention you can go stupidly low, which is kinda odd for tein...
I've got the Super Drifts as well and I love them.. Have had them for about 2 years and I DD my S14. Sorta expensive, but with EDFC compatibility, decent ride quality, and the ability to go lower than I'd want to.. it's a good all around coilover.
BoostinIX
06-02-2010, 05:04 AM
Nismo R Tune Coilovers :)
Bingo. That's what I'm rollin
project-D180
06-02-2010, 06:38 AM
how bout fortune 500
S14DB
06-02-2010, 09:56 AM
- SPL PARTS (http://splparts.com/store/product-info.php?pid122.html)
wh0aitznic0
06-02-2010, 11:11 AM
I hear GodSpeed makes some really good coilovers. ISIS also makes good ones.
Only thing about those are that they're hella expensive.
Slammed Assassin
06-02-2010, 11:13 AM
PBM.. msglength
mattack69
06-02-2010, 11:25 AM
- SPL PARTS (http://splparts.com/store/product-info.php?pid122.html)
Stop teasing us with such fine products :naughty:
duynguyenn240
06-02-2010, 11:28 AM
for daily you should get stance LX it is the best coilover i ever have love them.. it feel like driving is250
S14DB
06-02-2010, 11:31 AM
Stop teasing us with such fine products :naughty:
He said best...
enkei2k
06-02-2010, 11:38 AM
how bout fortune 500
he's looking for coils...he's not looking for the top 500 US companies
Fortune Auto...maybe then that's another story.
RB30S14
06-02-2010, 11:59 AM
The funny thing about Zilvia is they always have a unofficially a "coilover of the month."
Every time a new one comes out from a various company then suddenly the old one that everyone had their nuts on is old and obsolete. (works the same way with any other fad that they follow on here.)
One month it's JIC, then Tein, then Kei Office, then Stance, then silk road then to DG5a and so forth. So depending what month you ask answer will always be different.
S14DB
06-02-2010, 12:09 PM
The funny thing about Zilvia is they always have a unofficially a "coilover of the month."
Every time a new one comes out from a various company then suddenly the old one that everyone had their nuts on is old and obsolete. (works the same way with any other fad that they follow on here.)
One month it's JIC, then Tein, then Kei Office, then Stance, then silk road then to DG5a and so forth. So depending what month you ask answer will always be different.
You have only been here a month, how would you know this?
Chopsuey
06-02-2010, 12:14 PM
im using swifts atm, no complaints.
RB30S14
06-02-2010, 12:18 PM
You have only been here a month, how would you know this?
Browsing here for a couple years. Finally made a user name. But you know as well as I as far as the "coilover of the month" thing that goes around here.
97240TB
06-02-2010, 12:18 PM
You have only been here a month, how would you know this?
he's Been lurkinnnn...
All technologies are this way though, companies are always trying to come out with a new or improved product to outsell the competitor. Thus the reason people are always praising something new or different, Stance D-Max PBM Fortune Auto. These 4 companies are some of the best at relatively affordable prices do some research find the brand and type of coilover that suits you best and make your purchase.
RB30S14
06-02-2010, 12:21 PM
If I'm not mistaken right now the coilover of the month is either from d-max or stance right now.
EDacIouSX
06-02-2010, 12:37 PM
depends what you are looking for... I would think Zeal and DG5 are the best coilovers out there. There's also other real baller companies like Ohlin. But best bang for the buck I would have to vote for Stance
99maxgtr
06-02-2010, 01:10 PM
what about fortune auto? i hear they are pretty good but i wonder how they are compared to stance. i would really like to hear someone who had ridden in both as far as streetability goes.
nathanong87
06-02-2010, 02:02 PM
i like my stance. i think they are a great value for the money. real talk.
KansaiDrifter
06-02-2010, 02:19 PM
I love my Kei Office, the ride is great even though they're used. For drifting they are setup perfect to my feel. I've also ridden in my friend's kouki with Stance GR+Pro's and they are almost identical, but the Kei Office actually have a touch smoother ride.
chris_240sx
06-02-2010, 04:23 PM
I've got Stance GR +Pros on mine with no complaints
RB30S14
06-02-2010, 04:35 PM
Kei Office XR SON>
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e130/JGarage/Ron/IMG_6130.jpg
Perfect Balance
06-02-2010, 04:49 PM
I've been running Fortune Auto for about a month now with custom 10/8 rates, set to 17/30 in the front and 15/30 in the rear. I love them, no noise at all, and they have better shock dynos than Stance. Only gripe is that I'll have to pull collars (typical) and maybe even flip the mounts to go as low as I'll eventually want to go once I go 5 lug. PBM has a shit shock dyno, way underdamped as far as compression goes and overdamped on rebound, but it makes sense for a consistent drift.
Pretty much anyone is going to tell you "My _______ coilovers ride good" but that doesn't tell you anything.
"Best" coilovers would have to be something custom from someone like Moton or Penske.
tricky_ab
06-02-2010, 04:54 PM
depends what you are looking for... I would think Zeal and DG5 are the best coilovers out there. There's also other real baller companies like Ohlin. But best bang for the buck I would have to vote for Stance
I totally agree. And to the OP, what do you plan to use them for? Track duty on the weekend? Just to go low? What are we talking about?
nathanong87
06-02-2010, 04:57 PM
i bet the OP buys megans.
Choku_Dorian
06-02-2010, 05:07 PM
i like my pbm so far.
i didnt even lower them yet and they are like, kinda low.
cleantune
06-02-2010, 05:16 PM
I thoroughly enjoy my Tein Flex. Solid ride, yet comfortable. My kidneys love it.
i second this, still great control around corners, solid ride on highway, and fairly forgiving on bumps
udon!
06-02-2010, 05:54 PM
http://image.modified.com/f/15598964+w750+st0/sccp_0806_06_z+moton_suspension_technology+club_sp ort.jpg
Sale price: $4,890.00
BALLERS ONLY.
The Hamsterball
06-02-2010, 09:36 PM
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/270829-writeup-custom-koni-ground-control-coilover-setup-assembly.html
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/OptionAero/KoniGroundControl/IMG_3799-1.jpg
1. Custom Housings
2. Koni 8611-1257 Race inserts
+ Ground Control Coilover sleeves
(custom revalve optional, and you can choose any spring rate for the springs)
(front)
3. Koni 8610-1436 Race inserts
(same deal with customization for spring rates and valving for the shock inserts)
(rear)
4,some miscellaneous hardware (on thread listed)
5. Good assed spring perches (for front) instead of the the ones that come with the ....
#6 ... Upper pillowball mounts (front) (whichever company you want, maybe tein)
#7 upper pillowball mounts for the rear
This setup will give you the best ride quality and best cornering for grip. I don't know about for drift.
But for grip, and for the price of everything (i think around $2000), if compared to the jdmwhore $2000-ish coilovers this kills them.
S14_Kouki
06-02-2010, 11:26 PM
Im rocking Stance gr+ I like them alot. I would like to try out a nice set of Ohlins tho one day.
pignose4life
06-03-2010, 12:23 AM
i love my silkroad coils, feels like im driving on silk!!!
haha really the ride is super nice and i like how it has 9 way dampening, also you can slam your car to the point where your frame rails are sitting on the floor.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/169/iphone259.jpg
The Hamsterball
06-03-2010, 01:02 AM
Im rocking Stance gr+ I like them alot. I would like to try out a nice set of Ohlins tho one day.
ahh yes.. my friend is riding on those on his s13.
he likes them too. +1 for stance.
97240TB
06-03-2010, 02:31 AM
I have Stance GR+ pro SS-d's on my track car I'm building, even with the super stiff springs they aren't horrible at full soft on the street. great construction and quality and they work amazingly well.
Already said it, figure out what your plans for the car are and decide from there what type of coilover seems to be ideal for your needs. Call some companies ask some questions see what they have to offer you Then make your decision.
ManoNegra
06-03-2010, 08:08 AM
the endless debate again,
nothing new to be learned either
people will like what they have for various reasons
be it budget, looks, or performance
it budget or looks is your main driving point then this is pointless
get something cheap, plenty of 'reviews' litter this site for budget set ups
if performance is your main concern then I would suggest talking to the people
who track their cars and do well be it drift, grip or whatever
see what works for them and why
bubba350
06-03-2010, 03:19 PM
hey thanx everyone for the great posts and info
still not so sure tho on what i want
my 350z has tein flexs and they are super great on the road
but wish they could go lower
i guess im looking for ride comfort plus great price
Andrew @ 240sxMotoring
06-03-2010, 03:30 PM
http://image.modified.com/f/15598964+w750+st0/sccp_0806_06_z+moton_suspension_technology+club_sp ort.jpg
Sale price: $4,890.00
BALLERS ONLY.
Why stop there? Moton 4-Way Adjustable. $10k!
Moton 4 Way Adjustable Nissan 240SX (http://www.240sxmotoring.com/mo4wayadni24.html)
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-1164098593086_2108_13964036
D.Adams
06-03-2010, 05:48 PM
If I'm not mistaken right now the coilover of the month is either from d-max or stance right now.
Do you ever think before you post?
95KA-Turbo
06-03-2010, 06:55 PM
what about fortune auto? i hear they are pretty good but i wonder how they are compared to stance. i would really like to hear someone who had ridden in both as far as streetability goes.
I daily drove and tracked my Fortunes with 9k/7k springs for about 4 months before I ripped my car apart to build it.
I've personally owned Megan Street and JIC FLT-A2 coilovers and the Fortunes ride significantly better then both of them - I have friend's with Stance and they ride decent, but not as good as the Fortunes. They have a digressive compression curve, you'll only find that in a custom Koni set up, KWs, and Motons. It makes a world of difference for the handling characteristics of the coilover.
I don't think you'll find a better riding and performing coilover under 1500 bucks for a S-chassis.
rb25crazy
06-04-2010, 08:57 AM
i have had the bc racing s14 coils with the inverted shocks and those were way to stiff for my taste. i just daily my car so i like a nice ride nothing to break the kidneys or back.
i now ride on stance lx+ and these are very comfortable coilovers i get out of the car and no back pain definitely a coilover that you can use for a daily. i don't care for track since i don't do that and i just wanted something off the shelf that was comfy and able to go somewhat low. these actually go way lower then the bc racing coils i had and i don't really like my car slammed anyway the minimum 2" of threading you would need to do to have the stance shocks be safe is plenty low for me and it can go then some.
if you want a comfy ride and just daily i'd suggest stance lx+ the only thing i wonder about these is if i go lower in spring rate will it get more comfy =) that's about it. was thinking of getting swift springs as well but i don't know which sizes it would take or would it be even beneficial to what i want.
bubba350
06-05-2010, 06:18 PM
wow take it easy guys lol
kinda looking for the under 1k range
any ideas?
WanganRunner
06-05-2010, 06:43 PM
wow take it easy guys lol
kinda looking for the under 1k range
any ideas?
pbm
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pbm
pbm
pbm
pbm
pbm
pbm
pbm
pbm
pbm
pbm
pbm
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ManoNegra
06-05-2010, 09:08 PM
wow take it easy guys lol
kinda looking for the under 1k range
any ideas?
Then you should have titled your thread appropriately
'Best S14 Coilover" made me think you actually cared about suspension, guess not
tricky_ab
06-05-2010, 10:59 PM
Then you should have titled your thread appropriately
'Best S14 Coilover" made me think you actually cared about suspension, guess not
Yeah, the thread title is quite vague...At $1K it's either Stance or PBM...
sincity_sil80
06-05-2010, 11:28 PM
i just ordered some pbm's.. cant wait to see how they are... i read around a lot and these seem suitable for me. i plan on having the occasional track day whenever i can find time and flo. best advice is to do research.. getting others opinions will only take you so far.. its all a matter of opinion. gl researching, hope you find what your looking for.
soreballz
06-05-2010, 11:44 PM
If I'm not mistaken right now the coilover of the month is either from d-max or stance right now.
You are mistaken. D-Max was last year. Stance has been proven to be great for several years now.
S14Driftr91
06-05-2010, 11:56 PM
i ♥ my stance coils :D
teh smithers
06-06-2010, 12:50 AM
Just be a true G and cut your coils.
But for real, no one has mentioned K-Sports...anybody wanna chime in?
95KA-Turbo
06-06-2010, 10:08 AM
There is really no need to mention anything else. You have three choices - Stance, Fortune, and PBM.
They're all different from each other and anything else in their price range out there is garbage.
soreballz
06-06-2010, 10:12 AM
But for real, no one has mentioned K-Sports.
That's because K-Sport sucks dick.
This thread is dumb.
I've read about 5 posts now with people saying "i have xxxx coils and they ride really super awesome!"
Problem is I've rode on a bunch of them and they suck dicks.
Don't listen to idiots. Listen to not idiots.
wh0aitznic0
06-06-2010, 10:31 AM
I'm telling you, bro, GodSpeed and Isis are really good coilovers! They might be a bit more than your budget allows, though. They're truly the top of the line suspension available for our cars.
I'm telling you, bro, GodSpeed and Isis are really good coilovers! They might be a bit more than your budget allows, though. They're truly the top of the line suspension available for our cars.
Prime example of a not idiot.
S14DB
06-06-2010, 01:10 PM
Prime example of a not idiot.
Or a troll...
Or a troll...
Heeeey... what are the best wheels for my car?... and why?
Thx.
beeracing s14
06-06-2010, 02:17 PM
who the hell uses Moton? Le Mans? JGTC? hahaha!
bubba350
06-06-2010, 03:41 PM
thank you for all the great posts :)
hellaslows13
06-06-2010, 04:41 PM
my sarcasm detector is going off the hook
The Hamsterball
06-06-2010, 06:41 PM
damn..
no one chimed in on my suggestion for
custom koni with custom ground control coils, and custom hardware?
ManoNegra
06-06-2010, 08:07 PM
damn..
no one chimed in on my suggestion for
custom koni with custom ground control coils, and custom hardware?
A good solution indeed and what I plan for my daily
hardly custom though, more of a recipe
all the ingredients and outcome are well documented
actually, now that I think about it
this to me is the 'coilover' flavor of the month
scratch that, I'm staying stock
I want to be different
fliprayzin240sx
06-06-2010, 08:19 PM
^^^Stock and not blown...that makes you different.
darkevildrifter
06-06-2010, 08:37 PM
If I'm not mistaken right now the coilover of the month is either from d-max or stance right now.
Do you ever think before you post?
doesnt happen..but hes been here for years
Tenchuu
06-07-2010, 12:13 AM
Quantum?
Moton?
This or Koni's custom.
but if you are just wanting to drift, any other is just as good if you don't care about too many suspension characteristics.
hell i have blown frot RS*R's. after a bit for work they are 1000x better than they were when not blown. (for grip with HLSD, front sway bar, adjustable arms, and disconnecting the rear sway bar, (I repeat, HLSD, front sway, adjustable arms)) but that is due to OTHER suspension modifications.
hendeeze
06-07-2010, 12:57 AM
http://www.carrozzeriajapan.co.jp/ohlins/catalog/09_4wO.pdf
Here you go
S14DB
06-07-2010, 07:16 AM
http://www.carrozzeriajapan.co.jp/ohlins/catalog/09_4wO.pdf
Here you go
Have to get them used and then have Ohlins USA rebuild them.
Product Range | Road & Track by Öhlins (http://www.roadandtrackbyohlins.com/en/product-range/)
thefro526
06-07-2010, 07:39 AM
damn..
no one chimed in on my suggestion for
custom koni with custom ground control coils, and custom hardware?
This is actually a pretty rad setup.
It does require you to know a tiny bit about suspension though, since you need to know what rates would be best for your car.
I remember seeing a set of Koni's + Ground Controls + Tien Front Camber Mounts up for sale for like $800 and they were brand new.
The Hamsterball
06-10-2010, 02:59 AM
yeah, but nothing that's impossible.
i learned the basics of suspension characteristics and effects of tuning when i got gran turismo 3 for ps2 when i was 15 years old.
then i verified it over the years.
if a 15 year old can do it, it shouldnt be a problem.
a huge problem is that the OP doesn't know what he wants. and he doesn't know because he doesn't know how to drive, so he doesn't know what type of set up he likes.
even though he seems to be aiming towards a pre-built, bolt on coilover kind of deal (some teins maybe, rsr's, or something like that), he still needs to know what he wants.
This is actually a pretty rad setup.
It does require you to know a tiny bit about suspension though, since you need to know what rates would be best for your car.
I remember seeing a set of Koni's + Ground Controls + Tien Front Camber Mounts up for sale for like $800 and they were brand new.
thefro526
06-10-2010, 07:49 AM
yeah, but nothing that's impossible.
i learned the basics of suspension characteristics and effects of tuning when i got gran turismo 3 for ps2 when i was 15 years old.
then i verified it over the years.
if a 15 year old can do it, it shouldnt be a problem.
a huge problem is that the OP doesn't know what he wants. and he doesn't know because he doesn't know how to drive, so he doesn't know what type of set up he likes.
even though he seems to be aiming towards a pre-built, bolt on coilover kind of deal (some teins maybe, rsr's, or something like that), he still needs to know what he wants.
True, it's not impossible, but it may be difficult for some people grasp. Just because you can understand it doesn't mean that everyone can, so you always have to assume that people aren't well informed.
Regardless, this seems to be one of those threads where a kid asks a question and is given multiple options that are good and then chooses to go with junk anyway.
And I'd have to agree that the OP is probably looking towards some sort of Off the shelf coil, in which case multiple acceptable options have been put forth in this thread, PBM, Stance, Fortune, etc.
wh0aitznic0
06-10-2010, 08:39 AM
All I have to say is, Koni + GC combo sucks dick. I would throw it down a mountain of dicks ass-first. (got it from someone's sig)
Doesn't go low enough.
thefro526
06-10-2010, 10:01 AM
All I have to say is, Koni + GC combo sucks dick. I would throw it down a mountain of dicks ass-first. (got it from someone's sig)
Doesn't go low enough.
So because a suspension setup doesn't go low enough it sucks? Not everyone is trying to be slammed you know.
MrMigs
06-10-2010, 10:48 AM
^ This is true...
But few things in life are more disappointing than lowering your car on brand new coilovers, only to see a 2-finger/3-finger/quadruple-fisted fender gap at the lowest height setting.
wh0aitznic0
06-10-2010, 12:06 PM
So because a suspension setup doesn't go low enough it sucks? Not everyone is trying to be slammed you know.
Lol, you're from Jersey, you wouldn't understand slammed if it smacked you in the face.
<3
Lol, you're from Jersey, you wouldn't understand slammed if it smacked you in the face.
<3
You're missing the point.
Some people want their cars for something other than looks. Maybe for a grip setup. Time attack guys aren't going to run fucking PBM shit.
koukidriver
06-10-2010, 01:43 PM
What about the KW V3's anyone have those?
thefro526
06-10-2010, 02:12 PM
Lol, you're from Jersey, you wouldn't understand slammed if it smacked you in the face.
<3
No, I understand slammed, and I'm currently working towards it.
But I also understand that being slammed isn't the best option for everyone, and in most cases being slammed isn't the most functional option either.
Different strokes for different folks, nah mean?
<3.
koukidriver
06-10-2010, 02:16 PM
Any input on the KW V3 coilovers I heard the STI guys actually improve there ride quality over stock.
MrMigs
06-10-2010, 02:19 PM
Supposed to be good quality etc etc etc, but you can't go low because it doesn't have a threaded damper casing for height adjustment (only perch adjustment) etc etc etc
Any input on the KW V3 coilovers I heard the STI guys actually improve there ride quality over stock.
KW V3 are designed properly. Good damping/spring rates. Will ride amazing...but just can't go low with them.
E-Warrior
06-12-2010, 03:28 AM
I would say HKS Hipermax...but they dont offer any "track" spring rates. Only 7kg/5kg....GREAT for DDing, I have the RS's. They ride fan-frikkin-tastic. But when your tire is 1/4" away from your QP (like me) you will need something like 10/8 lol.
MrMigs
06-12-2010, 01:06 PM
^ FYI, HKS USA says you can import the Hipermax 3 SuperSports. They don't offer it specifically for S14 application, but they do have it for S15, which is fine because I believe s15 coilovers are plug-and-play on S14. Springrate on the HKS SuperSport is 12/12, but I'll tell you now, it's not gonna be cheap! :2c:
E-Warrior
06-12-2010, 07:51 PM
^ FYI, HKS USA says you can import the Hipermax 3 SuperSports. They don't offer it specifically for S14 application, but they do have it for S15, which is fine because I believe s15 coilovers are plug-and-play on S14. Springrate on the HKS SuperSport is 12/12, but I'll tell you now, it's not gonna be cheap! :2c:
Damn 12/12 would be ridiculous on my DDed 14 lol. Def not cheap. If the RS's were 1500 bucks 3 years ago then importing some Hipermax III SS's might bite off an arm and a leg. If I had the money tho!
MrMigs
06-13-2010, 04:03 AM
Yeah, I hear where you're coming from. But at least HKS does rebuilds. And if you're in SoCal, HKS is within reach. (I think they're in Orange County or something like that.)
As for what they told me over the phone, they even service some of their older discontinued coilovers, as long as they're still able to obtain the rebuild parts.
To figure out the price on Hipermax III SuperSport coilovers, you can try loading up the HKS Japan site in Google Translate, and find the price sheet. I believe it's a .pdf file on the site someplace. You can convert the yen to dollars and figure out a rough estimate from there. :p
Slidin' Sam
06-13-2010, 04:31 AM
I like Parts Shop Max. I had them on my s13 and then bought them for my s14. All my friend that have driven/ridden/drifted my car love them also. I have also driven/drifted s14's with dg5's. They feel amazing as well, and the only difference I really noticed is that the dg5's are more comfortable for daily use (because of the lower spring rates). I had a friend who did some research on both PSM and DG5 coilovers. She said that They both use swift springs and the dampers are the same (or very close). I can not confirm this, but this (I believe) came from one of the guys at PSM in Japan.
Either way, both are amazing coilovers, but I prefer PSM because of the price and the cost for rebuild if necessary (eventhough you will only need to rebuild them if you crash pretty hard...DG5 or PSM)
Syncade
06-14-2010, 07:10 AM
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/270829-writeup-custom-koni-ground-control-coilover-setup-assembly.html
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/OptionAero/KoniGroundControl/IMG_3799-1.jpg
1. Custom Housings
2. Koni 8611-1257 Race inserts
+ Ground Control Coilover sleeves
(custom revalve optional, and you can choose any spring rate for the springs)
(front)
3. Koni 8610-1436 Race inserts
(same deal with customization for spring rates and valving for the shock inserts)
(rear)
4,some miscellaneous hardware (on thread listed)
5. Good assed spring perches (for front) instead of the the ones that come with the ....
#6 ... Upper pillowball mounts (front) (whichever company you want, maybe tein)
#7 upper pillowball mounts for the rear
This setup will give you the best ride quality and best cornering for grip. I don't know about for drift.
But for grip, and for the price of everything (i think around $2000), if compared to the jdmwhore $2000-ish coilovers this kills them.
Keep our NRR material away from these kids please ;) They wont ever understand what real suspension consists of.
EDIT: Just saw your writeup on page 2 of Off-Topic. Im impressed at the response you got. Seems not everyone mad-tite-jdm-gayflush-drifts-and-kills-jap-cars on here!
Chernobyl
06-14-2010, 09:59 AM
i bet the OP buys megans.
:rofl: No doubt.
bubba350
06-14-2010, 08:53 PM
sick love the posts and the info :)
Omar1913sm
06-17-2010, 12:43 PM
looking for some stock shocks for an s14... pm me if you have any
fliprayzin240sx
06-17-2010, 04:43 PM
I like Parts Shop Max. I had them on my s13 and then bought them for my s14. All my friend that have driven/ridden/drifted my car love them also. I have also driven/drifted s14's with dg5's. They feel amazing as well, and the only difference I really noticed is that the dg5's are more comfortable for daily use (because of the lower spring rates). I had a friend who did some research on both PSM and DG5 coilovers. She said that They both use swift springs and the dampers are the same (or very close). I can not confirm this, but this (I believe) came from one of the guys at PSM in Japan.
Either way, both are amazing coilovers, but I prefer PSM because of the price and the cost for rebuild if necessary (eventhough you will only need to rebuild them if you crash pretty hard...DG5 or PSM)
Which one felt more solid/stable for you? PBMs or DG5s? I might just replace my Aragostas, they're starting to feel old and tired. Then again, maybe I'd be better off getting them rebuilt...
The Hamsterball
06-17-2010, 05:56 PM
Keep our NRR material away from these kids please ;) They wont ever understand what real suspension consists of.
EDIT: Just saw your writeup on page 2 of Off-Topic. Im impressed at the response you got. Seems not everyone mad-tite-jdm-gayflush-drifts-and-kills-jap-cars on here!
huh? what write up are you referring to?
Om1kron
06-17-2010, 07:11 PM
huh? what write up are you referring to?
Reading > YOU
it's at the top of his post in the quote.
imo any coilovers you buy you can just get streetable springs for. Everyone says they're building some drift car, lets be real half of zilvia lives with their parents, are cheap asses, and build half ass cars.
So just get something cheap, nobody is going to judge you or give you a pat on the back for having motons on your car.
ManoNegra
06-17-2010, 08:26 PM
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The Hamsterball
06-17-2010, 09:28 PM
Reading > YOU
it's at the top of his post in the quote.
imo any coilovers you buy you can just get streetable springs for. Everyone says they're building some drift car, lets be real half of zilvia lives with their parents, are cheap asses, and build half ass cars.
So just get something cheap, nobody is going to judge you or give you a pat on the back for having motons on your car.
No, I can read fine. That's not my write up. Which is why I got confused.
If you click on the link in my original post (page 2??), you can see that it was a thread write-up originally written by username "OptionZero".
I didn't make clear that it wasn't my write up and thought it was obvious just by clicking on the link and seeing the first post.
All I did was summarize it a little. Go ahead, click the link.
There's actually a lot more detail to it than what I summarized, assembly information, and what not.
You could say I regurgitated what OptionZero said in his thread when he pretty much said his set up owns jdm coilovers from reputable companies for the same assembly price range.
But that's not true either, I simply have the same opinion.
Oops forgot to point out again. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/270829-writeup-custom-koni-ground-control-coilover-setup-assembly.html
The pictures of the koni/GC set up are from this link. This is a write by OptionZero.
Don't let clicking be > than you.
xBlastoisex
06-17-2010, 10:08 PM
they might not be the best..
but Stance has by far the best customer service ive ever dealt with.. and thats saying alot because i work in customer service, and know all the loops you have to work through to get anything thing done..
no with stance, if something is wrong they will help you.
thats my input
Slidin' Sam
06-18-2010, 12:23 AM
Which one felt more solid/stable for you? PBMs or DG5s? I might just replace my Aragostas, they're starting to feel old and tired. Then again, maybe I'd be better off getting them rebuilt...
What do you mean by more solid/stable? PBM is definately stiffer because of the different spring rates. Everything else feels about the same..they are almost identical. PBM incorporates a few nice things that I like, ex: the front coilovers are not LH/RH directional like most (you can put the brake line mounts on either side of the coilover). They are also cheaper. I have never had any problems with mine (had a set on my s13 and a set on my s14 now). DG5's are straight too. My friend had a set on one of his s14's and he totalled the car into a wall and the coilover blew up into pieces. When he called our friend Shinji (HeyMan Products), he had a hard time understanding that my friend broke his coilover...I guess his was the first/one of the only to break! lol Shinji - "HOW did coilover break...it can't break!" Oh yes it can...give it to a Gaijin! HAHAHA!!!
Cliff Notes: PBM and DG5 are both AMAZING! All comes down to how much you want to spend and how stiff you like your car.
fliprayzin240sx
06-18-2010, 03:15 AM
The problem I have with my Aragosta is that I have no clue which one it is. There are atleast 3 different version of Topline Aragostas that look similar. Cant even remember if I have an S14 or an S15 version, according to the site, the spring rates are different between the 2 (S15 has a stiffer spring rate).
1luvsilvias
05-08-2012, 10:53 PM
im in the same boat trying to figure out what coils to run on my s14. so therefore i would like to know if anyone have owned coilovers with external reservoirs and ones without? 2. whats the difference in ride quality street and track wise?... no matter what brand. i could choose from, there unless you guys may have suggestions... no bias thoughts just experiences with both for a comparison and contrast mindset...
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/297481-small-questions-thread-search-first-use-instead-making-new-threads.html
Don't BUMP old threads. Ask your questions there^^^
ManoNegra
05-09-2012, 09:04 AM
im in the same boat trying to figure out what coils to run on my s14. so therefore i would like to know if anyone have owned coilovers with external reservoirs and ones without? 2. whats the difference in ride quality street and track wise?... no matter what brand. i could choose from, there unless you guys may have suggestions... no bias thoughts just experiences with both for a comparison and contrast mindset...
we all know you're not going to drop 5k plus on suspension but for shits and giggles, friend's experience with AST 4300s 3-way adjustables on his old s14:
AST Suspension Review - 4300 3-way - Trackpedia Discussion Forums (http://www.trackpedia.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4344)
AST 4300 Shock Dyno for S14 240sx - Nissan Road Racing Forums (http://nissanroadracing.com/showthread.php?t=849)
tinys s14
05-09-2012, 11:24 AM
I just ordered the new Pbm coilovers I'll let you know how they are
DoobieS13
05-09-2012, 01:48 PM
I'm going PBM, was thinking BC, but they dont have enough low for my 15s and thinking bout Fortune Autos, but a buddy of mine has bent both sets that he's had. PS i have an S13, but same concept/quality
Kaifd3s
05-09-2012, 02:57 PM
I have the 2nd production model PBM's. Stiff as shit, my only advice is...
Real men rock PBM's.
fckillerbee
05-09-2012, 04:38 PM
I rocked stance coils on my zenki. Loved em. great grip, comfortable ride for daily. Overall pleased.
I just picked up some PBM pro's with the swift setup. haven't driven the car yet.
JKL1031
05-09-2012, 04:43 PM
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/297481-small-questions-thread-search-first-use-instead-making-new-threads.html
Don't BUMP old threads. Ask your questions there^^^
so u bash him for searching and bumping a thread,,then if he had asked in there he wud have gotten bashed for not searching. :wan:
Slippin'eight-nine
05-09-2012, 06:21 PM
so u bash him for searching and bumping a thread,,then if he had asked in there he wud have gotten bashed for not searching. :wan:
That is so true! Haha
Anyways I hope after 2 years the OP finally chose a set?
I would have to say Stance still is an awesome choice! Ive had mine since 06' and have clocked 60k miles on them and only recently think i may have blown my FP side!(tire is "cupping")
They are a little stiff, but when pushed they really respond
S14DB
05-09-2012, 07:16 PM
so u bash him for searching and bumping a thread,,then if he had asked in there he wud have gotten bashed for not searching. :wan:
But, he made a new thread also...
http://zilvia.net/f/s-chassis/452373-s14-coilovers-umm-suggestion-tech-talk.html
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