s13 vs e30, handeling, reving,drifting.......

[krissynbeau]

I love s13's but the e30 325is has caught my eye and I was wondering how they match up in drifting, braking,handeling, running costs, reliability, power and anything else you can think of.

s13 vs e30
lets hear it.

[BustedS13]

e30's are the new wave in trendy old-ass car technology. i say you jump ship, just like with hondas a couple years ago.

[ESmorz]

Saab 900 Turbo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/alistairk/Spots2008/IMG_7287.jpg

[ThatGuy]

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/bandwagon/1/Bandwagon-get-aboard.jpg

Hop on, and take a few more people with you.

[krissynbeau]

e30's are the new wave in trendy old-ass car technology. i say you jump ship, just like with hondas a couple years ago.
I dont have a 240 and im still on the honda ship. My EP3 is my babbbbbby.
I dont have money for any project as of now but e30's and 240's are at the top of my list

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/bandwagon/1/Bandwagon-get-aboard.jpg

Hop on, and take a few more people with you.
Thats a nice quote from a mod. Lol, you just asked me to leave the forum and take a few people with me. Hmmmmmmm, dont you want as many people on the site as possible. The more people that are on a webiste the more money it makes.

[ESmorz]

Thinning the ranks here would not be a bad thing.

[ThatGuy]

Quality over Quantity

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/flame-insults/6/Flame-You-Lose-Roadwarrior.jpg

[g-via]

Lol, you just asked me to leave the forum and take a few people with me

thatguy probably wants you to take more than a few with you...

[Matej]

Just wait a little longer to see what the next 'alt' car will be and get into that before everyone else.

[dahveed]

wait, reving? what the fuck?

[NAZ]

Its spelled "handling" btw. Please give up.

[HyperTek]

get a cressida

[Def]

They're ok if a bit twitchy at the limit. They have a stiffer chassis than an S13, bit the rear trailing arms. It's annoying how trendy they are becoming. Bimmerforums is starting to sound a lot like Zilvia these days...

IMO get an E36 M3, they are the next bandwagon car, and actually pretty badass in stock form.

[flip3d]

I'm about to bite the bullet and get an SC300.

I feel its time to get a big boy motor. :P

[JRas]

better is e36 vs s14..

sometimes I wish I had just bought an e36 m3.. at least I wouldn't have people coming up to me asking "Do you drift?!".

[Matej]

Personally I dislike the BMW/Euro car crowd even more than the 240SX boy racers.

[Sileighty_DRFT89]

I personally think e30's feel funny cause of the stupid bus steering angle in it. especially if you end up putting a bucket it. your hands are in an awkward postion. I personally only think they are fun with the m or s52 swap in it. those motors have an awsome sound too and can handle abuse if maintained. I prefer 240s cause the wheel base seems a little easier to control while sliding. e30s are quite twitchy at times. and if something breaks and you are not mechanically inclined to fix it, it can get costly. I would love to maybe one day do an e30 project. but a friend of mine told me to save my money and stick with a 240

[bigJ86]

Saab 900 Turbo.



ha...... i was looking at those a few weeks ago....seems like a neat car

[BustedS13]

I dont have a 240 and im still on the honda ship. My EP3 is my babbbbbby.
I dont have money for any project as of now but e30's and 240's are at the top of my list


Thats a nice quote from a mod. Lol, you just asked me to leave the forum and take a few people with me. Hmmmmmmm, dont you want as many people on the site as possible. The more people that are on a webiste the more money it makes.

wow. get the fuck off of here.

[BustedS13]

Personally I dislike the BMW/Euro car crowd even more than the 240SX boy racers.

more pale hawties in the euro crowd. too many azn's in this one.
thinkin i might get a volvo and some kute hats.
CARLES ENUFF 4 U?

[chibo]

IMO get an E36 M3, they are the next bandwagon car, and actually pretty badass in stock form.
Too bad it takes a lot of money to get power out of them reliably and the owner pool is filled with closed-minded douches. They really are starting to look dated too, and not in the E30 M3 good way.

I've wanted one for a long time, but E46 M3s are in the mid teens if you look hard now... so I think I will give it a year or two.

[wh0aitznic0]

Go back to ClubSi.

[adam s]

wow. get the fuck off of here.

Almost every single topic ive seen her post is completely useless and stupid.

And yet for some reason she's still here:-/

[krissynbeau]

Im not sure why so many of you guys are worried about ban wagons.I had my first 240 before half of the douches on this forum. You guys are so worried about trends that you're becoming booty holes. Very few of you can say you were the first owner of a 240. When a person makes mention of another car everyone gets up in arms. Get a LIFE!!! Web bashing and flaming is for idiots.
Thank you to the few people that answered the question.

[krissynbeau]

Almost every single topic ive seen her post is completely useless and stupid.

And yet for some reason she's still here:-/

Why would compairing two cars be useless, please fill me in!!!!!!


BTW i have a sabb turbo, its never working. It now sits in my backyard. It needs a trans and is for sale.

[ETdrivesS13]

Im not sure why so many of you guys are worried about ban wagons.I had my first 240 before half of the douches on this forum. You guys are so worried about trends that you're becoming booty holes. Very few of you can say you were the first owner of a 240. When a person makes mention of another car everyone gets up in arms. Get a LIFE!!! Web bashing and flaming is for idiots.
Thank you to the few people that answered the question.
LOL you sound a bit angry.
I like the topic. Both cars are cool but I think the 240sx is better all around. Anyway, dont let some of the knuckle heads get you down. You need to remember that most of these guys didn't go to college, are afraid of being copied, are 18 or 27 with a bad job. Lol, I cant believe a mod responded like that. Oh well, just understand that this place is for fun and no one should be taken seriously.

[kingkilburn]

I'd say go for it.
The car is heavier but stiffer.
It puts the power down better.
It has less anti-squat so it is less prone to over steer.
It undoubtedly handles well.
Plenty of power options.



Just because you like something doesn't mean you're jumping on the bandwagon. A good car is a good car.

[chitownguy]

I have an e30 and personally I really dislike it now. It cost about 1600 just for coilovers compared to 1000 for decent ones on 240's. If you want to go drifting just get an s13. Parts are cheaper and easier to come by than e30 parts. It does handle well though even after lowering it a lot.

Personally I dislike the BMW/Euro car crowd even more than the 240SX boy racers.

Matej, you don't like me anymore bro? :cry:

[Flybert]

I've drifted a couple e30's. One of them had the 325i motor and the other had a KA24DE with a turbo. The one with the stock motor felt front heavy but it still rotated nicely and was fun to drive. The KA-T powered one just wasn't set up right to drift with that much power and 205's out back. I would personally throw an SR in an E30 or some other 4 cylinder turbo motor with wide fenders and fat tires out back.

[dahveed]

wait, reving? what the fuck?
yeah, i'm still trying to figure out what the fuck she meant by this. like, revving the engine? what? this is buggin' me.. lol.

[325irollin]

I have an e30 :)

[Matej]

Matej, you don't like me anymore bro? :cry:
You're cool. :)
I am talking about the snobbish bros who think they're the only ones doing it the right way and everyone else 'just doesn't get it.'

[BustedS13]

Im not sure why so many of you guys are worried about ban wagons.I had my first 240 before half of the douches on this forum. You guys are so worried about trends that you're becoming booty holes. Very few of you can say you were the first owner of a 240. When a person makes mention of another car everyone gets up in arms. Get a LIFE!!! Web bashing and flaming is for idiots.
Thank you to the few people that answered the question.

yeah, there's a lot of bandwagon jumpers on here. i probably am, too. but i had my 240 before you had your license, so, i win this one, at least.

[ESmorz]

I'm on the bandwagon. I was off, but now I am back.

Go Wells Fargo. Go.

[ronmcdon]

Wonder what will be the next bandwagon car(s) after the E30?

Maybe E36/E46 (as price comes down) ?
Rat-rods (already played out?)
C5 Vettes maybe ?

GC8 Impreza's are already done to death (2.5rs going for over 10k!).
RSX's might get popular again among honda owners.
older GD8 WRX's are getting cheaper.

Be fun to see what ppl are tinkering a few yrs from now.
personally I'm done wasting $$$ on projects cars.
it gets old eventually, esp with the usual hassles of theft/police, etc.
however, that prospect of a C4/C5 is always tempting.

Cash for Clunkers, if it continues in the long haul, will eliminate a lot of options.

[evomike]

an s13 will be totally outclassed by a properly built e30 on a track, i have no idea how they do drifting but the e30 is an excellent chasis. the motor is bulletproof they are light nimble and yes can get a bit hairy when driving on the edge if you dont know the car. ill put it this way, for drifting id build a s13 and for track days and all around handling id build an e30. yes the euro scene is full of douche bag elitests and for whatever reason they are now the new thing, but whatever if you build a good car you will stand out from all the hacked ass b.s cars.

[adam s]

an s13 will be totally outclassed by a properly built anything on a track

Seriously, obviously a pos stock car will be outperformed by a built car.

That was the dumbest thing I've ever read.:duh:

[krissynbeau]

I think the new bandwagon car might be those 1997 mirages that people turn into old school evo's. Ive seen two of them all jdm'ed out this week. Around my area people are starting to all see that the tt 300zx/na 300 are a way better value than supras.Getting super hard to find now, well at least around my area.

[OptionZero]

no first hand experience, but hear that the EP3 civic si (the last hatchback we got here) is a decent chassis sorely equipped out of the factory that can be vastly improved

might be cheap these days, but i haven't looked around

[evomike]

Seriously, obviously a pos stock car will be outperformed by a built car.

That was the dumbest thing I've ever read.:duh:

Where did I say stock s13? And I love how you change my post. I'll put it this way you can do stock for stock or modded to modded. An e30 chasis is better suited for a road course. Don't get upset because you are a Nissan guy. Nowhere did I compare a fully built e30 to a stock s13

[325irollin]

What it comes down to is that the e30 is God's chariot.

[chitownguy]

What it comes down to is that the e30 is God's chariot.

Many e30 owners seem to think that.

[ronmcdon]

Where did I say stock s13? And I love how you change my post. I'll put it this way you can do stock for stock or modded to modded. An e30 chasis is better suited for a road course. Don't get upset because you are a Nissan guy. Nowhere did I compare a fully built e30 to a stock s13

Well, you did say "an s13 will be totally outclassed by a properly built e30 on a track".
Personally, I thought that was a bit vague and could have been interpreted many ways.
Being more specific will avoid misunderstandings.

[evomike]

Yea it's almost 3 am I'm tired and see how that could get confused

[kingkilburn]

InstaWin

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plus

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[Matej]

Wonder when people will start importing Trabants to be 'authentic,' raving about how great of a platform they are.


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[zenki.life]

LOL you sound a bit angry.
I like the topic. Both cars are cool but I think the 240sx is better all around. Anyway, dont let some of the knuckle heads get you down. You need to remember that most of these guys didn't go to college, are afraid of being copied, are 18 or 27 with a bad job. Lol, I cant believe a mod responded like that. Oh well, just understand that this place is for fun and no one should be taken seriously.

says you. many on here are very knowledgeable. and ThatGuy responded like he should........ with sarcam, because of the pointlessness.

[josephin510]

The next trend will be C5 vettes there getting cheaper and have a huge aftemarket. Plus the ladies likey

[Matej]

This is what a generic drift car will look like in a few years.
Except higher and with worse-fitting/uglier wheels.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2869012241_6fa86728c7_o.jpg

[ayuaddict]

hey that looks cool!

but yea i have horrible taste.

i think E30s are cool, E30s and E36s have been catching my eye so they may just be the new bandwagon car (i always catch on a bit late).

i hear talk about the S30 becoming popular among "bandwagoners" also (already jumped on that one), but the necessary welding/metal knowledge might limit that one.

SC300s are also growing in popularity, as are "low and flush" civics and integras.

basically anything that is easily attainable by using cheap parts on cheap platforms and still get attention for.

wait, what was this thread about?

[ETdrivesS13]

says you. many on here are very knowledgeable. and ThatGuy responded like he should........ with sarcam, because of the pointlessness.
LOL, wow you dont see the point of this thread? its clearly to compare and contrast the 240 and e30. If the tread has a topic, it also has a point!!!!!.:fart:

[Flicktitty]

I like the E30's it would be nice to get one on coil's and wheels, but i'm just afraid of the whole "euro wiring" and little electrical gremlins, my girlfriend had a 98 Jetta VR6 and that car was a NIGHTMARE. that pushes me away from the euro scene. i would LOVE a E46 M3 in Laguna blue with some I-Forged wheels and coils but then again thats big money.

I think the SC has a very strong possibility in becoming the next "fanboy/bandwagon" car seems alot of growning up S chassis guy's have got them and people want them now.

[HAWAII]

chassis is really good with the E30. change to coilovers, some thicker sway bars, better bushing and you are good to go. The only issue are the parts. they are expensive. check out BMP or Eurosport or pelican tuing for prices.

[Bubbles]

too many azn's in this one.



You bite your tongue.

Those words don't even belong in the same sentence.

[napaKAliboog]

I Think the 240 revs better because IT GOES TO 8rpm and the redline is longer!!! DUH!

[VNG704]

e30s(e36, z3, maybe others) have weak subframes. My e36 m3's subframe cracked. E30s that swap in a more powerful engine also beef up the subframe where as I could see a 240 with say...350hp with a stock subframe and be okay. As far as qaulity in stock build I'd say very close with the slightest edge to the s-chassi because cracks here and there. If you plan to up to power you have to support. I know that's with any car but earlier so in the hp/tq range with the e30. Also, rear shock mounts crack. There are more issues I can't recall at the moment, been out of the bmw scene for a bit. I can't compare the two in handling because both s13 and e30 I've driven were modified. All that being said, I'd love to own an e30(and drop in an SR20 :P).

[BustedS13]

an s13 will be totally outclassed by a properly built e30 on a track, i have no idea how they do drifting but the e30 is an excellent chasis. the motor is bulletproof they are light nimble and yes can get a bit hairy when driving on the edge if you dont know the car. ill put it this way, for drifting id build a s13 and for track days and all around handling id build an e30. yes the euro scene is full of douche bag elitests and for whatever reason they are now the new thing, but whatever if you build a good car you will stand out from all the hacked ass b.s cars.

wat ch your mouth, you four post cunt.

[ZX88]

the e30 is a great car.

[XperienceM5G]

e30s(e36, z3, maybe others) have weak subframes. My e36 m3's subframe cracked. E30s that swap in a more powerful engine also beef up the subframe where as I could see a 240 with say...350hp with a stock subframe and be okay. As far as qaulity in stock build I'd say very close with the slightest edge to the s-chassi because cracks here and there. If you plan to up to power you have to support. I know that's with any car but earlier so in the hp/tq range with the e30. Also, rear shock mounts crack. There are more issues I can't recall at the moment, been out of the bmw scene for a bit. I can't compare the two in handling because both s13 and e30 I've driven were modified. All that being said, I'd love to own an e30(and drop in an SR20 :P).

I've really never heard of an E30 chassis cracking ever, E36 yes, but E30, no.
I guess there's always an exception but they're pretty rock solid cars if you treat them right.
Friends got a turbo e30 running about 320hp to the rear wheels @ 15lbs of boost and it's never had any problems with chassis or anything else to that matter really.

I've never drifted one but from just cruising my friends down the road I can see how they feel a little front heavy at times.

All around if you got the money and time for a becoming classic I would do it just because they can look absolutely gorgeous if done right. Not to mention a great track car.

And as far as reving goes.. Well my foot felt pretty good on the accelerator? If that answers the confusing question? haha

[randomxzero]

Just drive both cars see which one you like the feel of more and go from there..
both will become money pits :p