View Full Version : Why doesn't anyone make this #2?
xs240
06-08-2009, 08:23 PM
Yeah I saw the other thread I thought I'd throw it out there and see what someone like carbon creations or kognition or whoever thinks.
You know the door inserts, they are about what 10lbs+ each? The part that has door knob/switches/etc...
I know alot of people make them out of thin aluminum when they do race /track/hardcore cars haha... and I've seen a bunch done with carbon fiber plates... this shouldn't cost alot to make by oneself... but it shouldn't cost alot to sell either I think? I mean it would be just a FLAT piece of aluminum or FLAT piece of carbon fiber (sexier), lightweight and predrilled for door holes. And either pre cut for automatic or manual windows/switches... or just indented to cut out for either or leave uncut.
Heck I wouldn't mind a ferrari f50 cable door opener instead of any knobs or other bs... weight savings are my friend.
Someone do it and sell it.
Discuss
kalypso123
06-08-2009, 08:29 PM
you do it, you see it
/thread
jspecusa
06-08-2009, 09:25 PM
check with origin they already made it for RHD s chasis.
5t341tH
06-08-2009, 09:59 PM
wtf, thats stupid. if you want lightweight, just take the panels off. Boom, weight savings
steve_o1989
06-08-2009, 10:03 PM
Are you just talking about door panels? Origin makes carbon fiber ones in the same design as the original.
xs240
06-09-2009, 10:18 AM
NO, not actual inserts, I'm talking about a flat panel thats it... cheap... effective, covers the holes but saves weight and with carbon fiber looks descent. No not the oem shaped covers. How hard would this be to make and sell? Like cmon... predrilled holes and that's it. No crazy moulding process its just literally flat.
I wish I could find some pix... its been posted before...
xs240
06-09-2009, 10:21 AM
Not an s chassis (and ugly) but here's an idea:
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BritishMotorHeritage/BMH-Witney-O.jpg
I've seen it in carbon fiber, looks great, lightweight and serves its purpose no stupid holes.
I'm not talking about these overpriced pretty moulded pieces:
http://www.dmax-aus.com.au/images/s13_carbon_door_trim.jpg
I don't even run the plastic tabs, I have no speakers, the bottom holder is off... I just have the cover... if i take it off all together there are holes :D Car is stripped mostly but it's always easier to make it uglier :D
Meh... found something similar but not the s13 i was thinking:
http://www.lotusespritgt1.com/images/Replica/Bodywork/020.-Carbon-door-panel.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3743/pict0394gy9.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1086/interior201.jpg
And instead of a crazy mechanism could have just wire opening... like Ferraris :D Joke aside, why not? So much frickin hate on zilvia its pathetic. Something that's practical, saves weight and it could be made to look descent... and this should NOT be expensive... cmon. No need for a 400 dollar moulded cover that looks OEM... maybe for some show car but no.
Bee*R makes these door panels for various Nissan models (S13 pictured below), however they are for RHD.
http://www.bee-r.com/main/parts/door/photo/13r01.jpg
Driver's side.
http://www.bee-r.com/main/parts/door/photo/13l02.jpg
Passenger side.
Bee*R list the price as 41,790 yen per side.
If I were in the market, I would go for these as oposed to the OEM looking carbon panels.
shanes14
06-09-2009, 11:35 AM
flat panel for s14's would be nice, they feel so much bigger when the door panels are off. never realized it till i drove without them. i would make a set for myself but i dd mine and like the oem look
ayuaddict
06-09-2009, 11:36 AM
Bee*R makes these door panels for various Nissan models (S13 pictured below), however they are for RHD.
http://www.bee-r.com/main/parts/door/photo/13r01.jpg
Driver's side.
http://www.bee-r.com/main/parts/door/photo/13l02.jpg
Passenger side.
Bee*R list the price as 41,790 yen per side.
If I were in the market, I would go for these as oposed to the OEM looking carbon panels.
exactly what i was about to say.
if you want nice, you gotta pay the $400 plus shipping.
if you want ghetto, make it yourself, which is probably the reason why nobody sells them.
240sxrb25
06-09-2009, 11:52 AM
i do reassembly in a body shop and the 240 door panels are light to begin with. def not 10 lbs. id leave them unless your looking for more of a racecar effect...
racepar1
06-09-2009, 12:02 PM
Just an FYI, pretty much all of the stock looking fiberglass or carbon door panels are actually HEAVIER then stock. The stock ones are really pretty light.
xs240
06-09-2009, 12:14 PM
I was hoping someone would make something like this reasonably with even a wire for pulling door open and manual door knob...:
http://www.lotusespritgt1.com/images/Replica/Bodywork/020.-Carbon-door-panel.jpg
The ones by bee-r are still moulded, but something even more simple like that would be awesome... it can't be heavier than stock lol... the stock is about <10lbs... but meh... the metal brackets etc.. are like 1lbs each but whatever... its bulky too... with it being flat it would give more space...
I've tried driving with the cover completely off and it's just lame...
ayuaddict
06-09-2009, 12:24 PM
take all the support beams and what not out of the actual door frame and reinstall the door panel. probably makes more sense.
kognition
06-09-2009, 12:45 PM
5lb S14 race doors $1,500. Carbon exterior skin, TIG welded aluminum frame. Making a set for my car. LMK. Function.
Yeah I saw the other thread I thought I'd throw it out there and see what someone like carbon creations or kognition or whoever thinks.
You know the door inserts, they are about what 10lbs+ each? The part that has door knob/switches/etc...
I know alot of people make them out of thin aluminum when they do race /track/hardcore cars haha... and I've seen a bunch done with carbon fiber plates... this shouldn't cost alot to make by oneself... but it shouldn't cost alot to sell either I think? I mean it would be just a FLAT piece of aluminum or FLAT piece of carbon fiber (sexier), lightweight and predrilled for door holes. And either pre cut for automatic or manual windows/switches... or just indented to cut out for either or leave uncut.
Heck I wouldn't mind a ferrari f50 cable door opener instead of any knobs or other bs... weight savings are my friend.
Someone do it and sell it.
Discuss
racepar1
06-09-2009, 01:13 PM
take all the support beams and what not out of the actual door frame and reinstall the door panel. probably makes more sense.
Unless you care about safety at all..........
:squint:
5lb S14 race doors $1,500. Carbon exterior skin, TIG welded aluminum frame. Making a set for my car. LMK. Function.
That's actually not that bad of a price for how their made. I want one of your wings though! Those are the shiznit! I was gonna stop by your trailer at the redline time attack a few months ago, but the one time I walked by and saw anyone there you all seemed pretty busy putting the wing on the JIC porsche.
burnsauto
06-09-2009, 01:14 PM
ah, there's mike. I was just going to refer you to him anyways. Mike is the man at functional carbon work. GO KOGNITION! (can i have a sticker now ;)?, hehe)
kognition
06-09-2009, 02:06 PM
Still should have said howdy. :)
I was going to make just some generic carbon/glass doors. But i learned at the track that they shrink and warp in the heat. So the best way really to make quick release race doors is an aluminum frame.
Unless you care about safety at all..........
:squint:
That's actually not that bad of a price for how their made. I want one of your wings though! Those are the shiznit! I was gonna stop by your trailer at the redline time attack a few months ago, but the one time I walked by and saw anyone there you all seemed pretty busy putting the wing on the JIC porsche.
xs240
06-10-2009, 09:40 AM
That is pretty bad ass :D
How about window function? Little window with back and forth sliding mechanism out of plexiglas or... full sliding with manual knob.
I'd rock it with a roll cage...
SILVIA_KIDs14.5
06-10-2009, 10:07 AM
on a s13 the driver and passenger door panels - 11.8lbs
I was hoping someone would make something like this reasonably with even a wire for pulling door open and manual door knob...:
http://www.lotusespritgt1.com/images/Replica/Bodywork/020.-Carbon-door-panel.jpg
The ones by bee-r are still moulded, but something even more simple like that would be awesome... it can't be heavier than stock lol... the stock is about <10lbs... but meh... the metal brackets etc.. are like 1lbs each but whatever... its bulky too... with it being flat it would give more space...
I've tried driving with the cover completely off and it's just lame...
babowc
06-26-2009, 08:47 PM
lirl
just take a good dump before you drive your car.
and cut out supports.
there you go.
dont get in a sidecollision now.
soreballz
06-26-2009, 08:59 PM
I made number two about ten minutes ago, and it looked better than most of those panels. :)
ranger240
06-26-2009, 09:02 PM
checkout porsche carrera rs doorpannels, THAT is what you should get, not that f50/carbon/fiberglass nonsense. you could easily make an rs style pannel for nothing, thin sheet aluminum, wrap it in vinyl. strap pulls, done
David B S12
06-26-2009, 09:48 PM
if your going to lighten your car dont add shit to make it look nice lol
Taniguchi_Is_#1
06-27-2009, 01:35 AM
the door panels weigh 10 lbs?
xs240
06-27-2009, 09:27 AM
take some pix of what you made :)
I will take kognition's offer but not yet :) I'm not replacing the whole doors yet... In meantime i think ill stick with a flat panel of aluminum or fiberglass and yeah wrap with vynl sounds legit enough..
driftage240
06-27-2009, 02:15 PM
just make more power!..geez
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