Drift Track

[LADii Z]

Hey So-Cal drifters!
Quick question...

How far would all of you be willing to drive to a sick ass track? We're speaking of a 5th gear drift track!

Your input would be greatly appreciated.
:)

[StalinDrift123]

If I can actually practice on it and not pay a G for the entrance, then that would be BAD ASS!!!

[lolatclint]

sounds very exciting. only issue mainly is how much $$$ hahaha

[94cc0rd]

well a lot of people are willing to drive 2-3 hours for willow springs..

some even more like guys from norcal coming for track days at willow springs or people going to buttonwillow.

I think as long as the track is nice and the entrance fee isn't outrageous people would be willing to go because it's another "new" track... but then again, with alot of these pay by the hour drift events happening, it might be tougher..

[iMAGE976]

45 mins....lmk if you can make this happen. thanks

[mr.booie]

ill keep my willow. im only 20 minutes away. muhahaha.(evil laugh)

[Brian]

I wont travel anywhere to go to a 5th gear track.
ridiculous.

[SUPERSTAR]

I would travel to the moon. Yes, I want to drift there.

[YoungGun]

5th gear?

lol.

probably the same to willow like 1 1/2 hours.

[LocalStreetHero]

I would drive double the distance from sacramento to WSIR if i can hit 7th gear drifts.

[tanks13]

100 miles 1 1/2 hours

[Grenade180sx]

how many people in reality can/able to sustain a 3rd gear drift let alone anything faster?? not many. but aslong as the layout is good then ppl WILL come not everyone can drive like the pros!

[dirtythirty]

how many people in reality can/able to sustain a 3rd gear drift let alone anything faster?? not many. but aslong as the layout is good then ppl WILL come not everyone can drive like the pros!

but we can sure as hell crash real good trying to drive like the pros' ha!

[LADii Z]

how many people in reality can/able to sustain a 3rd gear drift let alone anything faster?? not many. but aslong as the layout is good then ppl WILL come not everyone can drive like the pros!

Definitely not your ass!
:)

So you're saying everyone sucks huh? Besidesssss...there will be more crashes. More of a show! Just what Adam's likes to see.

[LADii Z]

I wont travel anywhere to go to a 5th gear track.
ridiculous.

Why not!

I think it'll be tight to see like an 7th gear track!
170MPH DRIFT.

siick.

[foreverdark]

Not to far. You can do 4th and 5th gear at El toro.

[karl wasabi]

Will this be an actual course? New course? Out in the dessert like willow? I'd be down to drive about 100 miles. 5th gear is ridiculous though. Top of 3rd would be perfect I think.

[drftem]

im down . i wanna hit 4th now ive done 3rd its fun but im ready for an even faster entry speed.

[junkyiv]

I would drive 3-4 hours for a high quality track with a unique layout. Do your homework, to do it right is neither cheap or easy.

[lolatclint]

i like drifting in neutral

[Brian]

Why not!

I think it'll be tight to see like an 7th gear track!
170MPH DRIFT.

siick.



lol posi rep for your response.

[aoiken3]

laguna seca's 15 minutes from me. too bad it costs an arm and a leg to drive on it tho. if the entrance fee is doesnt require body parts, i'm down

[94cc0rd]

make sure its easy on tires too.. like balcony! ;)

[Inland Drift]

make sure its easy on tires too.. like balcony! ;)
There are no high speed course that easy on tires...lol
Low speed drift = easy on tires
High speed drift = Prepare more tires
Can't get both!!

[LADii Z]

Thanks for the feedback!

Keep it comin'
:)

[fcdrifter20]

Will this be an actual course? New course? Out in the dessert like willow? I'd be down to drive about 100 miles. 5th gear is ridiculous though. Top of 3rd would be perfect I think.

i have to agree im down for top of third. but feel a bit sketchy anything higher than that.

There are no high speed course that easy on tires...lol
Low speed drift = easy on tires
High speed drift = Prepare more tires
Can't get both!!

and tires will be a major issue. how will the asphault be. i did three runs on el toros 3rd gear course and my tires ripped to shreds. so if its too far,(like anything more than and hour) and im only gona get a cupel runs in one each set of tires. i think i would have to pass. i dont got that kind of money to be throwing around like that, as much fun as it maybe, i just cant afford it. and i doubt to many of us can

[Grenade180sx]

Definitely not your ass!
:)

So you're saying everyone sucks huh? Besidesssss...there will be more crashes. More of a show! Just what Adam's likes to see.


your post makes ZERO sense. build a track. people will come even if its a parking lot.

[!Zar!]

I'd rather have a fun track to drive that flows well with some elevation changes more so than a track that I can drift in 5th gear.

[fcdrifter20]

^^^^ as would i. only thing that is worth driving more than an hour for is willow srpings. by far best track around here.

but like riley said, even if its a parkign lot, ppl will come. u gota remember that there aint to many ppl left hit up the streets anymore( but my ass aint never leavin the streets!!!!! street driftin for life lol!!). and if ppl can get good seat time undisturbed by the cops, they r most likely gona take it, even if its just a parking lot.

[azndoc]

I've done 4th gear entry at El Toro and my car feels like its gonna fall apart just like a lot of people's would.

So keep it real expectations that not many people would be able to do 5th gear entry let alone have the skills to do it in the first place.

You'd have so many crashes it would be stupid.

[karl wasabi]

A course with multiple layouts, or the ability to change the layout would be awesome too. Kinda like the Ebisu courses.

I'd actually prefer a lower speed course that's technical than just a flat out balls to the wall manji course like El Torro.

I would LOVE to drive on the Meihan Circuit. Something like that would be TIGHT!!!

[newblood]

I've done 4th gear entry at El Toro and my car feels like its gonna fall apart just like a lot of people's would.

So keep it real expectations that not many people would be able to do 5th gear entry let alone have the skills to do it in the first place.

You'd have so many crashes it would be stupid.


not too mention people having the balls to do it in the first place

i'm down for another venue though
but elevation changes would be soo mch sweeter than just a regular lot

[Grenade180sx]

not too mention people having the balls to do it in the first place

i'm down for another venue though
but elevation changes would be soo mch sweeter than just a regular lot

we need a mix of streets/htm in one. super gangster long corners to a dope down hill!

[Grenade180sx]

but we can sure as hell crash real good trying to drive like the pros' ha!


YESS!!! or they spin against he pros!! HAHAH love u davey! when u coming back out

[fcdrifter20]

we need a mix of streets/htm in one. super gangster long corners to a dope down hill!

that would be so gangsta... id be spendin all my money thr....if i had money to spend that is :(

[silcoupeguy987]

so wheres this mystery track at???

im guessing in neverland with all this 7th gear entry talk :ddog:

[newblood]

we need a mix of streets/htm in one. super gangster long corners to a dope down hill!



yes this needs to happen

[SUPERSTAR]

Is this one of those threads like: "If I was a Hot Chick Would You Do me?"

"If you found a pot of gold, would you tell your friends?"

[junkyiv]

Is this one of those threads like: "If I was a Hot Chick Would You Do me?"

"If you found a pot of gold, would you tell your friends?"
1. yes
2. no

I'd rather have a fun track to drive that flows well with some elevation changes more so than a track that I can drift in 5th gear.

^^^^ as would i. only thing that is worth driving more than an hour for is willow srpings. by far best track around here.

but like riley said, even if its a parkign lot, ppl will come. u gota remember that there aint to many ppl left hit up the streets anymore( but my ass aint never leavin the streets!!!!! street driftin for life lol!!). and if ppl can get good seat time undisturbed by the cops, they r most likely gona take it, even if its just a parking lot.
Agreed, flow and elevation changes would almost be mandatory to make it worth a considerable drive. Parking lot?! LOL!!! HEEEELLLL NO! There are enough of those already.

I've done 4th gear entry at El Toro and my car feels like its gonna fall apart just like a lot of people's would.

So keep it real expectations that not many people would be able to do 5th gear entry let alone have the skills to do it in the first place.

You'd have so many crashes it would be stupid.
C'mon Jack!

[WoolyS14DET]

Erine I would do you just to do it !!! LOL

BUt build a track and no matter what they will come !!

[SUPERSTAR]

no matter what they will cumm !!

On your face. :yum:

[240XTC]

so wheres this track you planning to build?.........

[karl wasabi]

I'm getting a feeling this is just a random questions thread. lol.

If I made a drift track on the moon, who would be interested?

[SUPERSTAR]

yEs oN tHe mOoN

[LADii Z]

your post makes ZERO sense. build a track. people will come even if its a parking lot.

Your face makes ZERO sense. :)
And very true...it doesn't take much for people to drive out to somewhere to legally drift.

I've done 4th gear entry at El Toro and my car feels like its gonna fall apart just like a lot of people's would.

So keep it real expectations that not many people would be able to do 5th gear entry let alone have the skills to do it in the first place.

You'd have so many crashes it would be stupid.

Wellll if there was a track that had 5th gear capabilities, we wouldn't let everybody and their mom's drive on it. There would be some sort of qualification to drive on that course.

Is this one of those threads like: "If I was a Hot Chick Would You Do me?"

"If you found a pot of gold, would you tell your friends?"

Sorta..lol. Just trying to get some input for something.

so wheres this track you planning to build?.........

IN MY HOUSE! Who's down for some drifting in my kitchen.

[azndoc]

Tom you know me. I'm always balls out. No problem doing that.

Its other people that I worry about.

Just looking out for people's safety.

[Grenade180sx]

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp1/munchkinbuttons/fail.jpg

[Grenade180sx]

Tom you know me. I'm always balls out. No problem doing that.

Its other people that I worry about.

Just looking out for people's safety.

with swine flu going around jack you might want to keep your balls in..

[dirtythirty]

YESS!!! or they spin against he pros!! HAHAH love u davey! when u coming back out

hahahaha! o man, ill be back as soon as i get my cyl head back from machine shop. so hopefully ill see you guys next thurs!

[dirtythirty]

Thunder Hill is the only track that meets everything talked about here. 4th entries, drop to wide open third, then monji up hill transition blind at the top and drop down the back side back into third with your balls shriveled up and a white knuckle grip on the steering wheel. Its an amazing track........ only like 10 hour drive from sd too! haha

[Monstorfab]

I'm down! Keep me informed....

[ericcastro]

So you're saying everyone sucks huh? Besidesssss...there will be more crashes. More of a show! Just what Adam's likes to see.
so you offend everyone.
Then,
You might be caught in the Adams track hype,........but.
ALOT of people are really not feeling it. You think we like crashing our cars? You think we see any of that money that Adams brings in at our expense?
Sure he's laughing to the bank while we are spending every penny to put our cars back together.


A course with multiple layouts, or the ability to change the layout would be awesome too. Kinda like the Ebisu courses.

I'd actually prefer a lower speed course that's technical than just a flat out balls to the wall manji course like El Torro.

I would LOVE to drive on the Meihan Circuit. Something like that would be TIGHT!!!
yeah, we dont need a formula D course. maybe something less NOPI, and more D1 inspired.
(meaning more technical)


i'm down for another venue though
but elevation changes would be soo mch sweeter than just a regular lot


we need a mix of streets/htm in one. super gangster long corners to a dope down hill!

[Grenade180sx]

so you offend everyone.
Then,
You might be caught in the Adams track hype,........but.
ALOT of people are really not feeling it. You think we like crashing our cars? You think we see any of that money that Adams brings in at our expense?
Sure he's laughing to the bank while we are spending every penny to put our cars back together.



yeah, we dont need a formula D course. maybe something less NOPI, and more D1 inspired.
(meaning more technical)


castro. at your expense? cheap drifting isnt good enough i guess? problem is NO one forces anyone to tandem.. and yet you always complain like theres a gun to your head. unfortunate.

REMEMBER ITS JUST DRIFTING!

[phukyuu]

grenade180 is gay

[DudeYourSoOOJDM]

We need a little less whining and a little more gratefullness that we have tracks to drive......

I for one would like a top of 3rd entry course with a wall next to initiation (water barriers preferred), Rumble strips at each clipping point, with a layout similar to Nikko Circuit.....is that too much to ask :)

[dirtythirty]

grenade180 is gay

not even close

[dkwasherexd]

wtf 5th gear is like 130mph or something , thats too scary to do in add.. what if my car flips !!!!

[Grenade180sx]

if you can open a venue do it! otherwise close the thread!

[dino6192]

so there is a fifth gear track....somewhere?
and we dont have a location for any of this nonsense. like most people have already stated, who will actually drive a fifth gear track? not the question of how, but WHY? el toro is fun as shit and thats only 3rd/4th gear.
ya, you can put your car in fifth and initiate all day on any track but does that mean your sliding in 5th gear?
this thread is worthless!

[fcdrifter20]

grenade180 is gay
beyond belief lol!!

if you can open a venue do it! otherwise close the thread!
and i have to agree.

[xpl2007]

Way to dangerous...

Fastest open track i think so far is El Torro or the the old Fontana Speed Way!

[240XTC]

CASE OF LITTLE PERSON TALKING BIG..............:faint:

[ESmorz]

This idea sucks.

This idea will fail.

This thread sucks.

This thread has failed.

[ericcastro]

castro. at your expense? cheap drifting isnt good enough i guess? problem is NO one forces anyone to tandem.. and yet you always complain like theres a gun to your head. unfortunate.

REMEMBER ITS JUST DRIFTING!

I know its just drifting.
If anyone does its me, shits just a hobby, not my life like some people assume cause im at the track all the time.

And like usual, I have no problem vocalizing what I think in public. Im not the only one that thinks that way. I hear it ALOT. People are just to scared to say it feels kinda shitty and they feel taken advantage of. They are scared of being singled out cause Drifting is there life.

And we are FORCED to tandem with people we dont know. At the end of the night, its a big pile up of people that have never driven together. Its a big dice roll who is gonna spin when and have another 6 cars right behind them on a 30' wide track.
Part of the reason I dont come out there and risk it that much.






but the spectators love it!!!!

CASE OF LITTLE PERSON TALKING BIG..............:faint:

This idea sucks.

This idea will fail.

This thread sucks.

This thread has failed.

[Grenade180sx]

like i said.. did anyone force u to tandem period? no. so if you dont like running in it then dont. because i ask who would like to run tandem. not telling anyone they are.

[SUPERSTAR]

I like crashing. I think it's cool.

[roboticnissan]

your post makes ZERO sense. build a track. people will come even if its a parking lot.


haha look how upset you got cuz go kart tracks suck for drifting only reason ppl show up cuz its guaranteed no cops everyone should hit up lake perris its way better than adams track by far. better drivers better track cooler ppl more dorifto

in conclusion
adams=thumbs down
perris=thumbs up

[Grenade180sx]

haha look how upset you got cuz go kart tracks suck for drifting only reason ppl show up cuz its guaranteed no cops everyone should hit up lake perris its way better than adams track by far. better drivers better track cooler ppl more dorifto

in conclusion
adams=thumbs down
perris=thumbs up

hey to each his own. ive driven at perris as well. like ive told you before, if you havent driven at a location why talk about it?? if you like big donuts cool.

castro still <3 u no homo

[fcdrifter20]

this thread was a super failure from the get go. now its making ppl argue!!will somebody plz close this thread.....thank you

[bobalacs13]

does it matter, its drifting dont care how far it is

[ericcastro]

hey to each his own. ive driven at perris as well. like ive told you before, if you havent driven at a location why talk about it?? if you like big donuts cool.

castro still <3 u no homo
oh yeah, i dont get bent.
like i said, this aint my life, lol.

Im just saying, and i think you know what i mean about being sent with some random dudes that are all over.
(of course those 55 series sucked and i was all over, BUT didnt ever spin!)


I will say the plus side of Adams is there is no tire ware there. or almost none, so thats a big plus, especially for younger guys saving money on tires and just trying to get down drifting.

LadyZ,- You need to realize that almost none of the Adams drivers can do a 3/4 gear course, lol.
So getting drivers for 5th gear!!!!
your gonna have to have the SD guys show, and all the better drivers from Naoki, 626/Side2Side/Rad/drift cloab,

Cause it takes alot more tires and money for those speeds. no used tires there!, lol.

Plus, your 5th gear is 3rd for my SOHC unless you give me a mile run-up, lmao!

[SUPERSTAR]

wut? .

[MiataCharles]

oh yeah, i dont get bent.
like i said, this aint my life, lol.

Im just saying, and i think you know what i mean about being sent with some random dudes that are all over.
(of course those 55 series sucked and i was all over, BUT didnt ever spin!)


I will say the plus side of Adams is there is no tire ware there. or almost none, so thats a big plus, especially for younger guys saving money on tires and just trying to get down drifting.

LadyZ,- You need to realize that almost none of the Adams drivers can do a 3/4 gear course, lol.
So getting drivers for 5th gear!!!!
your gonna have to have the SD guys show, and all the better drivers from Naoki, 626/Side2Side/Rad/drift cloab,

Cause it takes alot more tires and money for those speeds. no used tires there!, lol.

Plus, your 5th gear is 3rd for my SOHC unless you give me a mile run-up, lmao!

4th gear in SOHC is doable, I did that in El toro. I have done a lot of drifting in 3/4 gear in many different cars in race tracks here and outside the country, I go to Adams and I think Adams is a good place to practice the lines for a lot of guys who only normally go balls out but running bad lines in forgiving tracks like HTM or Balcony.

0.02

[Nismoknightska-t]

and maybe a 1/4 track next to the drift track..?

[zaquanh]

how many people in reality can/able to sustain a 3rd gear drift let alone anything faster?? not many. but aslong as the layout is good then ppl WILL come not everyone can drive like the pros!

lol TEXAS DOES IT BIG THEN

[ericcastro]

lol TEXAS DOES IT BIG THEN

the more video's i watch, the better other tracks look.
those East Coast tracks look nice.

we have HTM and........................different parking lot setup's and go kart tracks :(

[LADii Z]

this thread was a super failure from the get go. now its making ppl argue!!will somebody plz close this thread.....thank you

Don't really understand why people are arguing. So stop! Just love eachother..
:)

And I started the thread for some input. Because if you are trying to start up a venue, the best way to become successful is to ask the PEOPLE who will be DRIVING there.

So keep the input coming. And stop going off topic!

Adam's and Inland Drift are both fine places to drive. I remember the days when we were thankful to even have a place to drive legally. And nobody forces anyone to drive tandems. Drifting period is not a cheap sport. By involving yourself in the sport you take the risk of crashing.

[jdh30292]

i cant believe that people are so effin retarded, do you actually believe that perris is better then adams? its a big effin parking lot, no technical at all, if you can 180 in a parking lot, you can drift at perris, now adams requires actualy driving skill, and people just talk shit about it because THEY DONT HAVE THE SKILL TO HANDLE IT AKA YOU SUCK! now about a new track, if its technical and not a millon mile away ill drive there but im not driving to 29 palms for a parking lot, i can find that anywhere.

[dirtythirty]

this thread suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccckkkkkkkksssssssss!

[drftings14]

look JDH30292 ...inland drift is not just a drift track its also a DRIFT SCHOOL for beginners but the people that go there like drifting at a "BIG PARKING LOT" we can change the course layout anytime and the drivers like to drift at higher speeds and also find it challengeing to drift inches away from a K-rail but everbody has a rite to there own opinion and a rite to drift wherever they want so u dont need to be negative towards other tracks ... thank u come again !

[s13 @ fullboost]

Don't really understand why people are arguing. So stop! Just love eachother..
:)

And I started the thread for some input. Because if you are trying to start up a venue, the best way to become successful is to ask the PEOPLE who will be DRIVING there.

So keep the input coming. And stop going off topic!

Adam's and Inland Drift are both fine places to drive. I remember the days when we were thankful to even have a place to drive legally. And nobody forces anyone to drive tandems. Drifting period is not a cheap sport. By involving yourself in the sport you take the risk of crashing.


that touched my heart =] <3

[ericcastro]

i cant believe that people are so effin retarded, do you actually believe that perris is better then adams? its a big effin parking lot, no technical at all, if you can 180 in a parking lot, you can drift at perris, now adams requires actualy driving skill, and people just talk shit about it because THEY DONT HAVE THE SKILL TO HANDLE IT AKA YOU SUCK! now about a new track, if its technical and not a millon mile away ill drive there but im not driving to 29 palms for a parking lot, i can find that anywhere.

I think your confused. Maybe you just do big donuts. I personally try and scrape my bumper off on the K rail and hit all the proper clipping points.
If you go there and do big donuts, then yeah, your not getting it.
try and put some actual lines together.

And heres the part that will blow your mind.......

You can change the lines part way through the day to continue to challenge yourself incase top of 2nd, scraping a K-rail isnt enough for you.
you can also have to manji switch mack at high speed towards the K rail too.
yeah, kinds like a mini Irwindale.

but hey, you keep killin that low 2nd gear at Adams DK, lmao!!!!:w00t:

that touched my heart =] <3
Mine too.
LadiiZ,
....go drive Tandem before you talk about how people should be dealing with it.

And new courses and tracks are definatly a big plus. If you can put one together, then thankyou from the entire drift community. we are putting our input on "5th" gear tracks in.

[Grenade180sx]

alright alright ladies enough nonsense. Every venue out in socal has PLENTY of things for ppl to learn from. and as a driver ill try them all to progress and get better wether its a parking lot, kart track or streets of willow!

everyone really does need to be thankful that we have 2 close venues thats support us weekly. i hope we can move forward and not backwards from this point.

-Riley

[LADii Z]

Mine too.
LadiiZ,
....go drive Tandem before you talk about how people should be dealing with it.

And new courses and tracks are definatly a big plus. If you can put one together, then thankyou from the entire drift community. we are putting our input on "5th" gear tracks in.

I'm not talking about how people should be dealing with it. I don't think I need to drive to know the risks of drifting. It's pretty obvious when you're doing an 11 car tandem that there's plenty of things that could go wrong at any moment. I'm sure you know that. All I was stating is that Adam's doesn't force any driver's to drive tandem. SoOoo yeh..

alright alright ladies enough nonsense. Every venue out in socal has PLENTY of things for ppl to learn from. and as a driver ill try them all to progress and get better wether its a parking lot, kart track or streets of willow!

everyone really does need to be thankful that we have 2 close venues thats support us weekly. i hope we can move forward and not backwards from this point.

-Riley

Amen.

[junkyiv]

CHEESE ANYONE!? :wtc:

[240XTC]

crackers anyone?:yum:

[SUPERSTAR]

I practice in my driveway, sometimes with friends....yes Tandem.

[jdh30292]

I think your confused. Maybe you just do big donuts. I personally try and scrape my bumper off on the K rail and hit all the proper clipping points.
If you go there and do big donuts, then yeah, your not getting it.
try and put some actual lines together.

And heres the part that will blow your mind.......

You can change the lines part way through the day to continue to challenge yourself incase top of 2nd, scraping a K-rail isnt enough for you.
you can also have to manji switch mack at high speed towards the K rail too.
yeah, kinds like a mini Irwindale.

but hey, you keep killin that low 2nd gear at Adams DK, lmao!!!!:w00t:


Yeah adams may be a second gear track, but its alot harder to connect multiple switching turns with elevation changes and the track has different configurations aswell, and when they cant change it anymore they run it backwards and it all new again, look both tracks are good for different things, adams teaches you more technical while perris teaches the speed, but the thing is even in D1 the fastest part is the entry then they slow down, like at long beach, entry speed was 91 mph but then the track average was 38mph, the way i see it is who cares if you can enter at 90 if you cant connect the rest of the track once it slows down, im not saying perris is bad, anywhere you can drift legally is a amazing thing and should continue, i just think people should quit talking crap and just have fun.

oh and if adams track is sooo bad, why does calvin won, sam hubenette and other pros show up and talk about how great it is? hmm now lets see the pros like it but new beginers dont....yup must be the track thats bad, it couldnt possibly be the drivers.

[LADii Z]

Yeah adams may be a second gear track, but its alot harder to connect multiple switching turns with elevation changes and the track has different configurations aswell, and when they cant change it anymore they run it backwards and it all new again, look both tracks are good for different things, adams teaches you more technical while perris teaches the speed, but the thing is even in D1 the fastest part is the entry then they slow down, like at long beach, entry speed was 91 mph but then the track average was 38mph, the way i see it is who cares if you can enter at 90 if you cant connect the rest of the track once it slows down, im not saying perris is bad, anywhere you can drift legally is a amazing thing and should continue, i just think people should quit talking crap and just have fun.

oh and if adams track is sooo bad, why does calvin won, sam hubenette and other pros show up and talk about how great it is? hmm now lets see the pros like it but new beginers dont....yup must be the track thats bad, it couldnt possibly be the drivers.

LOL
couldn't have said it any better.

[drftings14]

inland drift is still new so we'll see if more pro's come to inland drift in the future where as adam's has been open since DEC.08 ...thank u come again !

[jdh30292]

inland drift is still new so we'll see if more pro's come to inland drift in the future where as adam's has been open since DEC.08 ...thank u come again !

thats not my point, i dont care how many pros show up, my point is that if professional drivers are saying its a great fun track, then why would anyone listen to a bunch of whining noobs saying its crappy, cause honestly ill take the word of a pro over any street driver out there. mainly my point is not one is better then the other, my point is people need to quit talking crap on one or the other. see im not talking crap about the track, im talking about the ignorant people who say adams is crappy because they think they are the next "DK", so thank YOU come again.

[drift2010]

thats not my point, i dont care how many pros show up, my point is that if professional drivers are saying its a great fun track, then why would anyone listen to a bunch of whining noobs saying its crappy, cause honestly ill take the word of a pro over any street driver out there. mainly my point is not one is better then the other, my point is people need to quit talking crap on one or the other. see im not talking crap about the track, im talking about the ignorant people who say adams is crappy because they think they are the next "DK", so thank YOU come again.
Man, you confusing yourself, the pro's came because of the crowd, they will come anywhere as long as the track have a good crowd, not only because of the track.
and you said the parking lot track is not good, now you notice recent D1GP at Anaheim was on parking lot! El toro is on huge skid pad ex airport. So my suggestion is now get Tylenol, have good sleep so you're not confused anymore...lol

[ericcastro]

Yeah adams may be a second gear track, but its alot harder to connect multiple switching turns with elevation changes and the track has different configurations aswell, and when they cant change it anymore they run it backwards and it all new again, look both tracks are good for different things, adams teaches you more technical while perris teaches the speed, but the thing is even in D1 the fastest part is the entry then they slow down, like at long beach, entry speed was 91 mph but then the track average was 38mph, the way i see it is who cares if you can enter at 90 if you cant connect the rest of the track once it slows down, im not saying perris is bad, anywhere you can drift legally is a amazing thing and should continue, i just think people should quit talking crap and just have fun.

oh and if adams track is sooo bad, why does calvin won, sam hubenette and other pros show up and talk about how great it is? hmm now lets see the pros like it but new beginers dont....yup must be the track thats bad, it couldnt possibly be the drivers.

thats not my point, i dont care how many pros show up, my point is that if professional drivers are saying its a great fun track, then why would anyone listen to a bunch of whining noobs saying its crappy, cause honestly ill take the word of a pro over any street driver out there. mainly my point is not one is better then the other, my point is people need to quit talking crap on one or the other. see im not talking crap about the track, im talking about the ignorant people who say adams is crappy because they think they are the next "DK", so thank YOU come again.

Alright, I think you should stop.

You started talking negatively about the lake perris course layout, remember.

Not sure you know much about sports and being sponsored. But the pro's are coming out to the track as a "Demo", to support thier sponsors and thier needs. Of course they will say the track is great, like they do any track. Thats what professionals do.
And how many weeks in a row are they there??

Like i think my first post said. Out there, you're caught up in your own Adams track hype.
Its like a high school out there with the cool crowd.
But guess what, when you graduate, you gotta go out there into the real world and all that ,"who's cool at your high school", dont mean shit.
So live it up out there at Adams, cause your somebody out there.
Try not to graduate from Adams!
Stay there as long as you can freshman!
Dont venture out onto another track, cause no one knows you,.............oops, I meant dont venture out onto another track cause there not as good as Adams!
YEAH!!
RIGHT ON BRO!!

I personally run almost every track in SoCal.

But why dont you stay out there, its prolly the best and most technical course around.


And Riley, Im sorry man. I know your difusing the situation. But you know I really dont care and I let my opinion hang out there.
I love you too, no homo, But some of the people you got out there are so confused it just baffles me. They need to venture out of there area code.

[DALAZ_68]

jdh30292 - listen to castro, he knows about area codes, he's got hoes...in different area codes...from the 213 to the 626, 510, 323, 818...lol

[ericcastro]

you forgot 360 and 206 :)

Hey steve, hit me up with the info on where you got your full bushings set.
My subframe bushings are done, so i might as well do em all.

[charlie321]

you forgot 360 and 206 :)

Hey steve, hit me up with the info on where you got your full bushings set.
My subframe bushings are done, so i might as well do em all.


what about 562? haters! 951, 909, 714, 310 lol.

castro, get some subframe collars, you'll fucking love them.

[DALAZ_68]

you forgot 360 and 206 :)

Hey steve, hit me up with the info on where you got your full bushings set.
My subframe bushings are done, so i might as well do em all.

i actually got them from some one here on zilvia, shit i still havent even finished the rear since th etech day...no time... whats sucks worst is the cars no longer on the streets...its just i dont have time to take shit apart...

what about 562? haters! 951, 909, 714, 310 lol.

castro, get some subframe collars, you'll fucking love them.

collars on a DD...i dunno bout that...i drove my co workers S14 for a week and it had those, never again.

[jdh30292]

wow you guys are ridiculous, yeah i said its a big skid pad, thats my opionion, but im not talking bad about it,ypu guys talk shit about adams like is a horrible place an people shouldnt go there, im not saying ooh fuck that track never go there, they are both good tracks, and no castro im not caught up in th hype, my point is to get people like you to shut the hell up and quit talking crap, yeah i like adams but its not my favorite track either, but my point is, THEY ARE ALL FUN FOR DIFERENT THINGS, so go out and have fun and STOP BITCHING!!!

[Grenade180sx]

wow you guys are ridiculous, yeah i said its a big skid pad, thats my opionion, but im not talking bad about it,ypu guys talk shit about adams like is a horrible place an people shouldnt go there, im not saying ooh fuck that track never go there, they are both good tracks, and no castro im not caught up in th hype, my point is to get people like you to shut the hell up and quit talking crap, yeah i like adams but its not my favorite track either, but my point is, THEY ARE ALL FUN FOR DIFERENT THINGS, so go out and have fun and STOP BITCHING!!!

Please shut up.


i should be out to perris next weekend if you guys are running then. kthnxbai

[DALAZ_68]

wow you guys are ridiculous, yeah i said its a big skid pad, thats my opionion, but im not talking bad about it,ypu guys talk shit about adams like is a horrible place an people shouldnt go there, im not saying ooh fuck that track never go there, they are both good tracks, and no castro im not caught up in th hype, my point is to get people like you to shut the hell up and quit talking crap, yeah i like adams but its not my favorite track either, but my point is, THEY ARE ALL FUN FOR DIFERENT THINGS, so go out and have fun and STOP BITCHING!!!


ur the one yelling :boink:

[drift2010]

wow you guys are ridiculous, yeah i said its a big skid pad, thats my opionion, but im not talking bad about it,ypu guys talk shit about adams like is a horrible place an people shouldnt go there, im not saying ooh fuck that track never go there, they are both good tracks, and no castro im not caught up in th hype, my point is to get people like you to shut the hell up and quit talking crap, yeah i like adams but its not my favorite track either, but my point is, THEY ARE ALL FUN FOR DIFERENT THINGS, so go out and have fun and STOP BITCHING!!!
Let me remind you what you wrote.

"ha ha"
"i cant believe that people are so effin retarded, do you actually believe that perris is better then adams? its a big effin parking lot, no technical at all, if you can 180 in a parking lot, you can drift at perris, now adams requires actualy driving skill, and people just talk shit about it because THEY DONT HAVE THE SKILL TO HANDLE IT AKA YOU SUCK! now about a new track, if its technical and not a millon mile away ill drive there but im not driving to 29 palms for a parking lot, i can find that anywhere"

So now you remember who's talk shit about who.

[ericcastro]

I will say the plus side of Adams is there is no tire ware there. or almost none, so thats a big plus, especially for younger guys saving money on tires and just trying to get down drifting.


quoting myself :)

Im not planning on the car staying on the streets for more than 3 more months.
so I may go with metal collar's, but i dont like it too stiff.
guess I will have to "SEARCH" lol ;)

Riley, what day are you going?? I might like to come for a couple hours and drive. I would love to get rid of these 55 series, lol.

[all show no go]

Oman, people concentrate on the dumbest shit. Seriously Theena, If you're building a new track, build it. I'll drive it whenever. Rudy's track, I haven't yet driven.. whatever, I'll drive it soon.. Riley I'll be back sometime too. This shit is for fun, but retarded rivalries or whatever make it dumb. I only drive to make me happy, not others.. When I stop having fun, I'll stop drifting.


"Arguements" on a forum makes me think twice if I'm getting too old for this shit.

[Grenade180sx]

quoting myself :)

Im not planning on the car staying on the streets for more than 3 more months.
so I may go with metal collar's, but i dont like it too stiff.
guess I will have to "SEARCH" lol ;)

Riley, what day are you going?? I might like to come for a couple hours and drive. I would love to get rid of these 55 series, lol.

imma shoot for next sat, maybe do some tandem if they allow it. im just tired of not driving so im going all over the damn place. unless el toro is next week?

[LADii Z]

Oman, people concentrate on the dumbest shit. Seriously Theena, If you're building a new track, build it. I'll drive it whenever. Rudy's track, I haven't yet driven.. whatever, I'll drive it soon.. Riley I'll be back sometime too. This shit is for fun, but retarded rivalries or whatever make it dumb. I only drive to make me happy, not others.. When I stop having fun, I'll stop drifting.


"Arguements" on a forum makes me think twice if I'm getting too old for this shit.

Thanks Mikey!
Shall do.

You're always a breath of fresh air!
:)

And what you said is very true. Drive for yourself! That's when you get the true satisfaction out of it!

[nieko]

i like drifting.
at any track, anywhere, any price(if reasonable).

i like drifting its fun, new tracks are lovely.

i still go to adams, balcony, htm, nos center, and im still going to go to all of those lol as often as my wallet will allow.

havent been to perris yet, BUT, i do plan on going haha

did i mention, i like drifting haha

[SUPERSTAR]

. .

[ericcastro]

imma shoot for next sat, maybe do some tandem if they allow it. im just tired of not driving so im going all over the damn place. unless el toro is next week?

shit, think i might have a wedding in santa brahbra, i mean Santa Barbra.
Im trying to save money now, thats why im not doing el toro. just wanna drive for an hour :)

Of course, me and the GF just spent about $200 at IKEA and LOWE's, lol.

[newblood]

alright, i think you should stop.

You started talking negatively about the lake perris course layout, remember.

Not sure you know much about sports and being sponsored. But the pro's are coming out to the track as a "demo", to support thier sponsors and thier needs. Of course they will say the track is great, like they do any track. Thats what professionals do.
And how many weeks in a row are they there??

Like i think my first post said. Out there, you're caught up in your own adams track hype.
Its like a high school out there with the cool crowd.
But guess what, when you graduate, you gotta go out there into the real world and all that ,"who's cool at your high school", dont mean shit.
So live it up out there at adams, cause your somebody out there.
Try not to graduate from adams!
Stay there as long as you can freshman!
Dont venture out onto another track, cause no one knows you,.............oops, i meant dont venture out onto another track cause there not as good as adams!
Yeah!!
Right on bro!!

I personally run almost every track in socal.

But why dont you stay out there, its prolly the best and most technical course around.


And riley, im sorry man. I know your difusing the situation. But you know i really dont care and i let my opinion hang out there.
I love you too, no homo, but some of the people you got out there are so confused it just baffles me. They need to venture out of there area code.

eric castroooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[240XTC]

I drive in ernies driveway, tandem. Every 1 sucks. Me and ernie win.:2f2f:

Hey lady z..... So what was your initiative in starting this thread?? Where you planning on having your parents invest in a track or were you just bored and wanted to see the zilvian opinion?

[SUPERSTAR]

I drive in ernies driveway, tandem. Every 1 sucks. Me and ernie win.:2f2f:



True Story .

[drftings14]

i'm F**KIN tired of this better track bullsh*t just SHUT THE F**K UP AND DRIVE ! ! ! !

[LADii Z]

I drive in ernies driveway, tandem. Every 1 sucks. Me and ernie win.:2f2f:

Hey lady z..... So what was your initiative in starting this thread?? Where you planning on having your parents invest in a track or were you just bored and wanted to see the zilvian opinion?

There are some possibilities of a new track...
that is all.

:)
The zilvian opinion helps too though.

[240XTC]

There are some possibilities of a new track...
that is all.

:)
The zilvian opinion helps too though.

Cool. Well can you be more descriptive in your explanation as to the "possibilities" you have? Since we, the zilvian community, were kind enough to give you our input?

*every one sucks. me and ernie win*

[turns101]

I just deleted my post and edited

This thread should be deleted and started over.

If there is a new venue that has a decent location, surface, fun course(atleast 3rd gear entry/sweepers) people will go...

[zenkicookies]

5th gear? all i have to say is WOW.. if this were to happen only the absolute most advanced drivers with cars modified for high speed drifts will be able to pull it off.. most people doing grassroots stuff use their daily drivers which most WILL NOT be able to handle a speed that ridiculous.. this thread is hilarious.

it also depends on weather its a track or a huge LOT..

make this fantasy venue happen and i WILL show up, half of the reason would be pure curiosity.

[LADii Z]

Cool. Well can you be more descriptive in your explanation as to the "possibilities" you have? Since we, the zilvian community, were kind enough to give you our input?

*every one sucks. me and ernie win*

Thank you for you input!
:)

Heh...I can not reveal these plans...they are TOP SECRET!
I kiddd....I dunno. Don't have any plans yet. Just a thought right now!
And I'm just curious too to see what everyone likes and dislikes.

[ReLevent1]

seriously if you guys want high speed drifts go to thunderhill. and if you want 5th gear entry do turn 1 on thill hahah

[zenkicookies]

Thank you for you input!
:)

Heh...I can not reveal these plans...they are TOP SECRET!
I kiddd....I dunno. Don't have any plans yet. Just a thought right now!
And I'm just curious too to see what everyone likes and dislikes.


AW MAN, and here i thought u actually had plans of making a track 4 times the size of irwindale speedway, silly me:duh:

[ericcastro]

Don't have any plans yet. Just a thought right now!

Hence all the negativity this thread brought around.

We here on Zilvia have enough "fantasy" threads.
And enough, "what im gonna do" threads.

The thoughts are much appriciated. And you wanting to help the drift community. But the best thing for it is to let it be for a bit.
Last year we saw so many tracks and event holders, that people started having a hard time filing 6 spots.
so lets just let all these new tracks and returning tracks ride for a minute. Lets see how WSIR works with the couple guys trying to work within the new insurence rules.

And then if the events are still over flowing, lets look into opening another venue.

Just my thoughts from running and staffing events as well as media for the last 2 1/2 years.

[irax]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/510806193_183f9aaf99.jpg


seriously... if your down to build a track... like you got money and inversters... well then you need to take into a lot of things for consideration

personally i would love to see it in the san diego/tamecula area

it needs to be technical and realistic and have elevation changes something that would be more of a bottom of 4th top of 3rd kinda track. you need to incorperate a skid pad for beginners. you need to think out side of a "hey i want a drift land in my backyard" and into "hey i want to build a multifuction race track that EVERY ONE can enjoy". You need to think about motorcyclist, grip drivers, time attackers, gymkhana, go-karters, bicyclist. that way you are constantly doing business despite automotive trends. shit even build a drag strip, and a dirt track.... or even a bmx/moto cross track..

[SUPERSTAR]

What about Fontana?

Is that high speed enough?

[zenkicookies]

Hence all the negativity this thread brought around.

We here on Zilvia have enough "fantasy" threads.
And enough, "what im gonna do" threads.

The thoughts are much appriciated. And you wanting to help the drift community. But the best thing for it is to let it be for a bit.
Last year we saw so many tracks and event holders, that people started having a hard time filing 6 spots.
so lets just let all these new tracks and returning tracks ride for a minute. Lets see how WSIR works with the couple guys trying to work within the new insurence rules.

And then if the events are still over flowing, lets look into opening another venue.

Just my thoughts from running and staffing events as well as media for the last 2 1/2 years.

yeah all that negativity and arguing brought around over "a thought".

eric, let her be, if she can open a track of biblical proportions than let her, i really wanna watch how it will all unfold.:werd:

Ladii-Z let your experience in drifting and history of automotive motorsports reflect on this new track you're thinking of making.

DO YOUR THING.:coold:

[LADii Z]

yeah all that negativity and arguing brought around over "a thought".

eric, let her be, if she can open a track of biblical proportions than let her, i really wanna watch how it will all unfold.:werd:

Ladii-Z let your experience in drifting and history of automotive motorsports reflect on this new track you're thinking of making.

DO YOUR THING.:coold:

:)

Thanks I appreciate that! I really do..

[all show no go]

Ladii-Z let your experience in drifting and history of automotive motorsports reflect on this new track you're thinking of making.

DO YOUR THING.:coold:

I got an Idea, how about..

( If you are actually serious about making a new place) Instead of making this goliath super high speed drift madness, why not find some empty ass land like those vast fields in Beaumont and replicate a real Japan circuit. Or put all the good parts of all kinds of tracks into one.

*Just watch videos of Nikko, Bihoku, Meihan, YZ, Sekia Hills, Mobara, Honjo, and all of the Ebisu courses. They're all not the fastest shit out there, but I bet they're all super great to drive.

*3rd gear entry, variety of turns to link, walls, elevation changes or hills..

All the cool J ciruits share these factors in their tracks. I can bet my junky 2 toned heap of poop in the garage that the reason some Japan drifters are so good is because of the tracks they practice on. If you wan't inspiration or ideas.. You're doing it wrong.

It's as easy as watching youtube. :wan:

P.S. I like making things in BOLD

[DataXUnknown]

I want more tracks with walls. I don't wanna spin out on the dirt and be like oh look I fucked up. I wanna hit a wall and be like, man I sure learned not to do that again...and have some cool battle scars.

Fuck dirt, I <3 walls.

[zenkicookies]

I got an Idea, how about..

( If you are actually serious about making a new place) Instead of making this goliath super high speed drift madness, why not find some empty ass land like those vast fields in Beaumont and replicate a real Japan circuit. Or put all the good parts of all kinds of tracks into one.

*Just watch videos of Nikko, Bihoku, Meihan, YZ, Sekia Hills, Mobara, Honjo, and all of the Ebisu courses. They're all not the fastest shit out there, but I bet they're all super great to drive.

*3rd gear entry, variety of turns to link, walls, elevation changes or hills..

All the cool J ciruits share these factors in their tracks. I can bet my junky 2 toned heap of poop in the garage that the reason some Japan drifters are so good is because of the tracks they practice on. If you wan't inspiration or ideas.. You're doing it wrong.

It's as easy as watching youtube. :wan:

P.S. I like making things in BOLD

sounds awesome mike, but it was just a thought.. no real plans. only wanted feedback for a fantasy track.:angel:

[240XTC]

If your for real....Tell your parents to call the number in your PM about the

"possibilities"

If you want your 5th gear capable track to be utilized to its fullest potential and

recieve the maximum amount of return to the investor in the addition of ultimate

driver satisfaction experience.

[OneTekWes]

seriously... if your down to build a track... like you got money and inversters... well then you need to take into a lot of things for consideration

personally i would love to see it in the san diego/tamecula area

it needs to be technical and realistic and have elevation changes something that would be more of a bottom of 4th top of 3rd kinda track. you need to incorperate a skid pad for beginners. you need to think out side of a "hey i want a drift land in my backyard" and into "hey i want to build a multifuction race track that EVERY ONE can enjoy". You need to think about motorcyclist, grip drivers, time attackers, gymkhana, go-karters, bicyclist. that way you are constantly doing business despite automotive trends. shit even build a drag strip, and a dirt track.... or even a bmx/moto cross track..[/quote]

That would be the absolute shit! Where ever it's going to be if it's like that it would be crazy. Hold any event you want for any level of whatever. Sky is the limit girl.

[ESmorz]

I'm still going with...

This is just the pipe dream of a foolish girl.

[ericcastro]

I'm still going with...

This is just the pipe dream of a foolish girl.

I would take out foolish.
Im sure she has good intentions.

But if she wasn't a girl, and was just some dude with a couple hundred post, this thread would have gone way different.

I have noticed that Zilvia is full of Pussies, and I am looked at as some sort of gnarley asshole cause i state facts and truths.
This thread proves it. Bunch of pussies afraid to speak up, and me singled out somehow.

Its alright though. Just wait for the rep system to come back :2f2f:

[fcdrifter20]

I would take out foolish.
Im sure she has good intentions.

But if she wasn't a girl, and was just some dude with a couple hundred post, this thread would have gone way different.

I have noticed that Zilvia is full of Pussies, and I am looked at as some sort of gnarley asshole cause i state facts and truths.
This thread proves it. Bunch of pussies afraid to speak up, and me singled out somehow.

Its alright though. Just wait for the rep system to come back :2f2f:

i wish that rep system was stil around too. and i have to agree with u, ur not trying to be a dick, just stating the facts. but like i said before, this thread was an ubber fail from the begining so y is it still open???

[ESmorz]

I would take out foolish.
Im sure she has good intentions.

You can be foolish and have good intentions.

You're right though, I wouldn't have been as nice if it was just some semi-regular dude.

[PanchoPanoch]

I'm still going with...

This is just the pipe dream of a foolish girl.

maybe...then again you never know whos on the other end of the line

[zenkicookies]

I'm still going with...

This is just the pipe dream of a foolish girl.

yeah maybe, but u never know...

[zenkicookies]

I would take out foolish.
Im sure she has good intentions.

But if she wasn't a girl, and was just some dude with a couple hundred post, this thread would have gone way different.

I have noticed that Zilvia is full of Pussies, and I am looked at as some sort of gnarley asshole cause i state facts and truths.
This thread proves it. Bunch of pussies afraid to speak up, and me singled out somehow.

Its alright though. Just wait for the rep system to come back :2f2f:

i feel you, but none of this is a big deal, who cares, sometimes outspoken ppl like you are needed.

[ESmorz]

yeah maybe, but u never know...

Yes I do.

If the resources needed to do this were really available I feel that slumming it on Zilvia would not be a necessity to design.

I hope you make me a fool, but that's all I have to say.

[junkyiv]

Fuk the rep system.
The only real thing wrong with this thread is how negative most people INSTANTLY become. Who cares if it's a pipe dream! You never know who may be watching any of these threads. Even though it's highly unlikely somebody with an assload of money or influence could be looking for a pet project. If it was me I don't know that I'd want to provide a track for such a negative and unjustly elitist crowd.
Don't like it? I don't care. It's my opinion.
If you can't contribute in a constructive manner then stop wastin YOURS and everyone else's time by spewing crap. If you don't like the topic IGNORE IT.

[LADii Z]

^^ I agree.

I, personally don't think anyone is getting singled-out for any of their opinions. Like a said before, I was looking for some INPUT.

I never said, "hey I AM going to build a track what would ya'll like"?
nor did I say "Just curious what you guys think of this and that?"

All I asked was, how far would you people (drivers), be willing to drive to a sick ass track, IF it were to come about. Simple question, simple answer.

Okie dokie?

And I'm sorry for being a girl! Jeeeeze. Honestly, I don't care to have special treatment from anyone because of it. Especially on the forums.
We should all be equal Zilvians...riiight?
:hug:


Anywayyyyys. Chill out everyone. I don't need to close the thread, just answer the freakin' question, and we'll be straight! Coo?

[LADii Z]

Yes I do.

If the resources needed to do this were really available I feel that slumming it on Zilvia would not be a necessity to design.

I hope you make me a fool, but that's all I have to say.

Firstly, you DON'T know.

Please don't state things that aren't facts.

And obviously, the reason I posted the thread had nothing to do with the design of the track, it had to do with the location of it.

Reeeeead.

[ESmorz]

Have fun crashing on your 5th gear track "Christa-fur Reeves"

[LADii Z]

Have fun crashing on your 5th gear track "Christa-fur Reeves"

Shall do!


Seeing how it's only in my imagination right?
:D

[ericcastro]

can non premie members close threads???

lol

junkyiv (http://zilvia.net/f/members/junkyiv.html)
you should know how much of a waste the "pipe dream' threads are. you've been here long enough.

But if were gonna have one, then lets actually make one that states, "drift track pipe dream thread".
that would be interesting.
think it goes in offtopic, since this is a s chassis forum though.

[junkyiv]

can non premie members close threads???

lol

junkyiv (http://zilvia.net/f/members/junkyiv.html)
you should know how much of a waste the "pipe dream' threads are. you've been here long enough.

But if were gonna have one, then lets actually make one that states, "drift track pipe dream thread".
that would be interesting.
think it goes in offtopic, since this is a s chassis forum though.

Eric I can somewhat agree. However, on rare occasion pipe dreams can become reality. Not saying this thread is going anywhere but at least it shows that some are still optimistic. It just sucks when 90% of the responses are negative and some outright inflamatory.

Off topic? Maybe but it does have to do with "skilled driving" and is track related.

I for one encourage ANY new venues no matter how near or far from me they are. It will only benefit drivers to have a greater number and variety of places to practice and have fun. I'll go wherever if I feel it will be worth it. As it is right now I'm no less than 100 miles from ANY of the current venues. Hopefully someday I'll be able to attend regular events not so far away. But that will take a "dreamer" to make it a reality.

[ericcastro]

I for one encourage ANY new venues no matter how near or far from me they are. It will only benefit drivers to have a greater number and variety of places to practice and have fun. I'll go wherever if I feel it will be worth it. As it is right now I'm no less than 100 miles from ANY of the current venues. Hopefully someday I'll be able to attend regular events not so far away. But that will take a "dreamer" to make it a reality.

Like I stated earlier.
there are only so many "drifters" that can support the venues. As is, the venues are barely making it.
Its not like one will close either.
Its gonna be a couple that are gonna shut down at once.
We have already seen a number of organizations close down this last year.
And the year before that we had 2 or more events every weekend because so many organizers wanted to get involved.

thats why i stated to just let the existing venues survive for now, and lets see what happens. people need to look at the bigger picture, not just the philosophy that more tracks atomatically mean better.

Its like indian gaming casinos. one pops up and survives, 2 maybe, any more than that in the area and they all work against each other and all end up closing down.

[junkyiv]

Like I stated earlier.
there are only so many "drifters" that can support the venues. As is, the venues are barely making it.
Its not like one will close either.
Its gonna be a couple that are gonna shut down at once.
We have already seen a number of organizations close down this last year.
And the year before that we had 2 or more events every weekend because so many organizers wanted to get involved.

thats why i stated to just let the existing venues survive for now, and lets see what happens. people need to look at the bigger picture, not just the philosophy that more tracks atomatically mean better.

Its like indian gaming casinos. one pops up and survives, 2 maybe, any more than that in the area and they all work against each other and all end up closing down.

I agree that we don't need another dozen parking lot "drift tracks". It would definitely dilute. The success of those that already exist.
I would definitely encourage the planning and development of another fully fledged Race Track somewhere between Los Angeles and
San Diego or between Ventura and San Francisco. Drifting by itself will not sustain a real track so it would have to be a legitimate one
which could be utilized by all forms of road based motorsports. Its a huge undertaking and involves more than most people ever imagine
but its good that it at least gets brought up. And there's no reason that it shouldn't or can't be discussed without hostility or massive
amounts of negativity. You just never know when the right person might be paying attention to the hopes and dreams of those willing to
express them.

[landins13]

ive got a 5th gear drift course near me, its called I-695 there is also , I-95, 295,195 895,395

point is, i have to agree with some of the other comments, if you are going to do this hooray awesome, but it would be in the best interest of the course, not to be designed as soley a drift course, but model it after some of the best time attack and auto x tracks in the world.

if you design a track for auto x and time attack than it can very easily be used for drifting and motorcycling as well.

as far as 5th gear drifts, go take an on ramp from one highway to another, on the east coast i really like 695 onto 95, but yeah take it as fast as you can without the ass ending sliding, then take it again and try to make the ass end give out. most drifts unless your pro, are in 3rd and 4th gear, depending on the gearing of the car most pro drifting is done in 4th gear.

130mph drifting would be cool but find someone with the balls and a track to practice it.

[zenkicookies]

^^^ you're 5th gear courses sound cool LOL

[zenkicookies]

^^ I agree.

I, personally don't think anyone is getting singled-out for any of their opinions. Like a said before, I was looking for some INPUT.

I never said, "hey I AM going to build a track what would ya'll like"?
nor did I say "Just curious what you guys think of this and that?"

All I asked was, how far would you people (drivers), be willing to drive to a sick ass track, IF it were to come about. Simple question, simple answer.

Okie dokie?

And I'm sorry for being a girl! Jeeeeze. Honestly, I don't care to have special treatment from anyone because of it. Especially on the forums.
We should all be equal Zilvians...riiight?
:hug:


Anywayyyyys. Chill out everyone. I don't need to close the thread, just answer the freakin' question, and we'll be straight! Coo?


the simple question, simple answer part, i PARTLY agree with, but you cant blame people for WONDERING when someone asks such a random question.. and for absolutely NO reason..?


IF it were to come about....?? a grassroots venue with 5th gear entry might just happen to come about???

im sorry but NO.