Tucking 10" wheels on S13

[Devens240]

Hey i was wondering if i could tuck 10" wide wheels (rear) on an s13 with less than 1 degree of camber and only a roll and pull. also would a 255 or a 275 be square? i dont want to stretch...

[kevtrinh]

wat.




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[arkive43]

easy...run 245's

[Devens240]

i dont want to stretch, i would like to run 275/40/17's

[arkive43]

275's are gona rub if u wana tuck ur gona have to have a slight stretch

[JVD]

Dude... it's all about offset. Telling us 10" rim and 275 tire means nothing.

[i8yourfwd]

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's possible to fit a 10" wheel with only a minor pull if you only one a degree or so of camber and wanting to run a 275. Unless of course you're not that low, but then you're not tucking.. sooo yeah.

Check that max rubber thread that was floating around.

[JVD]

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's possible to fit a 10" wheel with only a minor pull if you only one a degree or so of camber and wanting to run a 275. Unless of course you're not that low, but then you're not tucking.. sooo yeah.

Check that max rubber thread that was floating around.
I think you should be able to. Just gotta pick the proper offset.

EDIT: And who the fuck runs 1 degree of camber?... oh, unless it's a drag car maybe???

[Z33dori]

im pretty sure there is a thread on this

it can be found by using the search button.

[JRas]

offset is the only thing that matters here

[LB.Motoring]

I dont know how youd tuck a 10" wheel,


its pretty small...


http://i36.tinypic.com/28rodg7.jpg

dumbass....

[Z33dori]

lol repped..

that is what i thought when i read the title ... then i read.... lol

[SexPanda]

Honestly, a 9 in the rear would work just fine. 10 is cutting it real close. Thats a big ass wheel.

once you reach a certian width, you stop gaining that stability factor, and start loosing important stuff like tire prices, drag, et cetera.

[Martin_s14]

DUUUUUDE!!!! -1 degree of camber??? That is just nuts!! I can't wait to see what this will look like!!! 10" OMGEEEZ!!!

[Devens240]

yes im puttin an LS1 in so i need plenty of tire on the ground. and 10" wide. i know it all depends on the offset, but is there any offset i can run and tuck 10" with little to no camber i have a fender roller but i dont want to pull it too much

[ThatGuy]

18x10 +20mm with a 245 tire.
Not alot of camber and requires the slight stretched tire and this much pull.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9567/pullpb7.jpg

When I had the wheel at +35mm, I ran into rubbing problems on the suspension arms. That was the wheel rubbing, a larger tire wouldv'e needed even less offset, in my opinion, to properly clear.

[Devens240]

ok, i dont want stretched tires though, its going to be a autox car and maybe drag once and a while

[RPS13-604]

im running on work meister s1 3pc +18 O-disk 18x10 on 255/35/18 with a fender pull and roll still havent had the time to camber it in yet but right now the rears stick out about 1inch

[ayuaddict]

so you dont like stretch.

but you wanna tuck wheel?

so like...

you want as much tire as you can possibly fit to make up for your fucked to shit suspension geometry?

are you like, bipolar?

[RurouniMidnight]

Just get a 9 inch wheel with decent offset and run a 255 265 and roll fenders and pull it how you want, it can't be absolutly perfect you have to give from a certain area to gain elsewheres, wider wheel = more of a streched tire and more rolling and pulling, it really comes down to just doing it and dialing it to make it comprimise and fit and look how you want it.

[Devens240]

so you dont like stretch.

but you wanna tuck wheel?

so like...

you want as much tire as you can possibly fit to make up for your fucked to shit suspension geometry?

are you like, bipolar?

fucked suspension geometry? since when is 0 degress camber fucked up suspension geometry? and no i dont like streched tires why by wide wheels then put tiny tires on them if im not going to drift?

[ayuaddict]

if you are tucking wheel, your shit is going to be all bad. all that roll couple and roll center and all that jazz.

you know, from being low?

[ThatGuy]

Not to mention if you want to tuck wheel and run Auto-x that means your shit would have to be SUNK. If not you're going to chew the hell out of the sidewalls of those non-stretched tires. You do realize the rear wheels and tires move when you take hard corners, right?

And if it's used for Drag racing, having the rear end dropped that far will not yield good launches.

I think you need to rethink what it is you actually want.

[Silverbullet]

fucked suspension geometry? since when is 0 degress camber fucked up suspension geometry? and no i dont like streched tires why by wide wheels then put tiny tires on them if im not going to drift?

^ He's refering to the fact that you want to tuck. Slamming a 240sx to tuck is fucking the geometry but of course it depends on teh dia. of the wheel as well.

[Matej]

You're going to put an LS1 in it, but you don't want to modify the fenders?

[ericcastro]

just so you know. I run stretched tires on auto cross and Grip courses. With a welded diff and still am able to keep it in (keep it from sliding).

if you dont want to stretch, it sounds like maybe you should run a 9, not a 10. If you dont mind stretching, then run a 10.

and Im not talking about Xtreme stretching. Im talking like a tiny bit. Like my 195 on 8's.


How wide can you go on a 10 and how wide can you go on a 9 BTW?? and still fit??

Is it the rules of the division you wanna run that say you cant roll the fenders or just buy over fenders??
What size you running up front and what Diff??

Not to mention if you want to tuck wheel and run Auto-x that means your shit would have to be SUNK. If not you're going to chew the hell out of the sidewalls of those non-stretched tires. You do realize the rear wheels and tires move when you take hard corners, right?

And if it's used for Drag racing, having the rear end dropped that far will not yield good launches.

I think you need to rethink what it is you actually want.

Actually, Ididnt even think of this. For best auto cross performance you dont want the car so low that 17's can "tuck".
You want to keep those arm just above level, or the suspension cant work as it was designed.

If your getting serious about AutoX. Pick up a couple of the books on it. The AutoX community knows an amazing about of info!!!

[RPS13-604]

just go widebody and forget the tire sizing haha

[FaLKoN240]

I thought he was talking about a 10" wheel diameter and not width for a second.

[Pank]

C5 vettes (that came with ls1s, and are heavier), came with 18x9.5's on the rear, so i think you'll be fine with 9's, esp if you're not stretching

[WISH ONE]

..........+40

[FusionR240sx]

do a 255 or 245 40 prolly gona be a 17" wheel?
i'm tucking 10.5's with 255's

offset stay at about +15 to like +24 and you'll be good.

[burnsauto]

I don't think what you want is possible on an S13.

There is no reason you'd need a 10" wide wheel.. especially with only an LS1, to meet your needs.

[silviaguy240]

fucked suspension geometry? since when is 0 degress camber fucked up suspension geometry? and no i dont like streched tires why by wide wheels then put tiny tires on them if im not going to drift?

since nissan designed 240's to have -1º to -1.5º stock.

[usdm180sx]

You'd have to get a +40 or more offset.

[Devens240]

im willing to have camber just not like 8 degrees. and burnsauto ONLY an LS1?? hahaha. i guess i dont want to tuck so must just be able to clear the fenders when the suspension compresses. and i plan on rolling and pulling

[bbejj123]

I think you should be able to. Just gotta pick the proper offset.

EDIT: And who the fuck runs 1 degree of camber?... oh, unless it's a drag car maybe???

hell i cant even get 1 degree of camber even with my camber arms 2 is as low as mine goes :bigok:

[Devens240]

hell i cant even get 1 degree of camber even with my camber arms 2 is as low as mine goes :bigok:

what kind of arms and how low are you?

[240driftin[Sil80]]

I dont know how youd tuck a 10" wheel,


its pretty small...


http://i36.tinypic.com/28rodg7.jpg

dumbass....

"dumbass" read he said 10" wide

[Slammed180]

18x9 -4 R disc Fronts
215/40R18 Kumho SPT

18x10 +20 O Disc Rear
235/40R18 Kumho SPT

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z133/STRD-Pat/july0908043.jpg

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z133/STRD-Pat/july0908051.jpg

That's from the Wheel fitment whore thread.
Hope that helps clarify what you can fit.

[SoSideways]

;2255412']"dumbass" read he said 10" wide

Dumbass read the thread title.

"Tucking 10" wheels on S13"

Nowhere did he say 10" diameter or 10" wide.

But yes, tucking 17" wheels means your car is gonna be fucking low. Like, your frame rail is going to be 1.5" off the floor.

At that point your suspension geometries are all fucked up. 0° camber in the rear doesn't mean jack shit because 0° camber is just an alignment.

Alignment != Geometry.

Why get a 10" rim and put 275s on there when you can buy 9.5" rims and put 275s on there and have them squared up?

[Devens240]

well that was another one of my questions. is a 275 square on a 9.5 or 10 inch wheel?

[iHeartTheTouge]

225/45 on your 10s, with some good negative negative camber and +5 to +10 offset, golden.

[articdragon192]

well that was another one of my questions. is a 275 square on a 9.5 or 10 inch wheel?

It's square on both. But some tires will make it bulge out more than other. It all depends on how the tire is.

[DOOK]

why stop at 10 inch width... you can get 12s you know

[WISH ONE]

You'd have to get a +40 or more offset.

^
what i said lol

hahaha

[240driftin[Sil80]]

damn what a burn. i got tricked by the post right under the start of the thread it says 10" wide. damn whoever neg repd me over that is an asshole anyway. and he said 17" wheels which means the 10" wud have to mean the width. so who ever neg repd me fuck you

[240driftin[Sil80]]

on my birthday too you guys are mean lol

[240driftin[Sil80]]

and if burnsauto can use common sense to figure out he means width, dont neg rep me over your guys fucking misunderstanding

[UNISA JECS]

dumbass read the thread title.


lol........

[drftwerks]

this reminds me of..................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPkYxFloPA

HAHHAH

[SixSpeedSleuth]

You can fit a 10 inch wheel on a stock bodied S13 with a fender roll if you use a +38 offset. This is my car after I raised it a little but the rears did tuck before. This was with 2 degrees of negative camber and a 255/40/17 Falken Azenis RT 615 wrapped on Enkei RPF-1's with only a slight stretch. (Prob closer to a 265 of other brands, Falkens tend to run wide.) And before somebody asks, I didn't want a crazy offset and have to run overfenders. As close as I could get to OEM was the plan for me.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j15/StopTheExcuses/Aftertintphotoshoot020.jpg

[ericcastro]

;2255959']and if burnsauto can use common sense to figure out he means width, dont neg rep me over your guys fucking misunderstanding

Hey dude.

I think that he was joking around with a bit of sarcasm, hence the shitty photoshop job.

Your neg rep and continuation of getting neg repped, says something about the way you handle yourself on here.

Stop your attitude problems, lighten up and join the rest of us here on Zilvia.

Once you lighten up, it really is a great community of people.

But being a confrontational :mrmeph: is gonna get you nowere on here.

[Devens240]

You can fit a 10 inch wheel on a stock bodied S13 with a fender roll if you use a +38 offset. This is my car after I raised it a little but the rears did tuck before. This was with 2 degrees of negative camber and a 255/40/17 Falken Azenis RT 615 wrapped on Enkei RPF-1's with only a slight stretch. (Prob closer to a 265 of other brands, Falkens tend to run wide.) And before somebody asks, I didn't want a crazy offset and have to run overfenders. As close as I could get to OEM was the plan for me.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j15/StopTheExcuses/Aftertintphotoshoot020.jpg


you dont have any problems rubbing your coils?

[racepar1]

so you dont like stretch.

but you wanna tuck wheel?

so like...

you want as much tire as you can possibly fit to make up for your fucked to shit suspension geometry?

are you like, bipolar?

That's what I was thinking! "Tucked" = slammed and slammed = jacked up suspension geometry! Jacked up suspension geometry is not what you want on an autocross car. Keep a moderate ride heighth, roll the holy hell out of your fenders (like with a fucking sledge hammer!), and pick your wheel offsets VERY carefully.

[SixSpeedSleuth]

you dont have any problems rubbing your coils?

It is rather close, but no rubbing whatsoever.

[sillyvia13]

I think you should be able to. Just gotta pick the proper offset.

EDIT: And who the fuck runs 1 degree of camber?... oh, unless it's a drag car maybe???

I run .5 degrees of camber. TRACK ONLY DRIFT CAR.
I have Formula d bussies who run 0.

try it, shits nice.
3.5 camber infront 0 toe 8 caster
rear .5 camber o toe shorten tractopn rods as much as possible.
60 psi in rear tires.
done.

I have a 17 x 10 fn +12 I think shit sticks out like 2 inches...
so I pulled 2 inches and tucked it...lol...
I got same wheel on front.
no tucking there on oem fenders...UNLESS I PULL IT 2-3 inches...lol

[i8yourfwd]

this reminds me of..................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whpkyxflopa

hahhah
hahaha

watup day day

[KansaiDrifter]

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h153/rh4motorsports/Vivid%20Drifter/ame2.jpg

that's 18x10 -10 275/35R18 yokohama (they have a really square sidewall, the BFg's i have now are curved alot more) They do tuck up in there, about 1 degree camber, 50mm Chargespeed overfenders

also rocking a 500hp LS1 in WA.

[Devens240]

yeah im not going to slam it, i just dont want too much fender gap. and would the FN 17" by 10" with the +35 clear the coils and tuck?

[ThatGuy]

If you're not going to slam it, then stop asking about tuck. :duh:

You are NOT going to to tuck a 17 unless you slam it. Since you've already stated your not going to slam it, stop asking about tuck.

Rephrase your question or something.

[BRAIN_Z33]

Hey dude.

I think that he was joking around with a bit of sarcasm, hence the shitty photoshop job.

Your neg rep and continuation of getting neg repped, says something about the way you handle yourself on here.

Stop your attitude problems, lighten up and join the rest of us here on Zilvia.

Once you lighten up, it really is a great community of people.

But being a confrontational :mrmeph: is gonna get you nowere on here.


Never been said better :bigok:

[Rayne]

I thought he was talking about a 10" wheel diameter and not width for a second.

I thought he wanted to run ten inch wide tire/rim combinations rather than just ten inch wide rims.

*For clarification: From my point of view: A wheel is two parts combined to make a whole. (Tire+Rim=Wheel)*

[LongGrain]

I thought he wanted to run ten inch wide tire/rim combinations rather than just ten inch wide rims.

*For clarification: From my point of view: A wheel is two parts combined to make a whole. (Tire+Rim=Wheel)*

thats like saying from your point of view delaware is in asia

a wheel is a wheel, it can also be called a rim

a tire is a tire

there is no word for a wheel and tire combination...

[sillyvia13]

60 psi?! Thats fucking STUPID.
lmao , I love this hidden neg repping...

[DRFT180]

This is the best picture I have, I did some test fitting at an auto-x.

18x9.5 +40
285/30/18
-1.7 deg camber
Roll, no pull

http://img2.putfile.com/main/4/11023264569.jpg

Cleared the quarter panel and maybe 1/2in from the coilover

[YoungGun]

17x10+12 225/45

SHIT LOAD CAMBER!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/cruizer123/fnfs003.jpg

no rubbing on rolled/hammered fenders.

[ericcastro]

^and stretched!!

[SoSideways]

17x10+12 225/45

SHIT LOAD CAMBER!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/cruizer123/fnfs003.jpg

no rubbing on rolled/hammered fenders.

^and stretched!!

Seriously... YoungGun clearly didn't read any of this thread and just wants to whore his shit out :)

[idahotuner]

a 10 nch wheel would fit easily. with the right offset.

[YoungGun]

Seriously... YoungGun clearly didn't read any of this thread and just wants to whore his shit out :)
Pretty much. OOOOOPS.

[SoSideways]

Pretty much. OOOOOPS.

hahaha

All good, shit looks dope :bigok:

[silviaguy240]

thats like saying from your point of view delaware is in asia

a wheel is a wheel, it can also be called a rim

a tire is a tire

there is no word for a wheel and tire combination...

proves my point, nobody within a 2 hours drive knows where delaware is....:keke:

[SILVIA_KIDs14.5]

listen for the ten inch rim your gonna wanna run anyware form a +12 off to a -12 off i'm going through this process now and after SEARCHING and talking with some ppl you'll need to roll the fenders and make sure that you clearence is good i'll be running a 15x10 with a 325/15/50R on the car with a roll and pull possibly a mini tub if need be will have to wait and see once everything comes in also try this post http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-wheel-fitment-whore-thread-2.html
has good info and most ppl are gonna run a agressive offset with that wide of a rim
ps the widest you can put on the rim with out rubbing on a 9" rim is 255 or 265 so take that into consideration as well

[SoSideways]

listen for the ten inch rim your gonna wanna run anyware form a +12 off to a -12 off i'm going through this process now and after SEARCHING and talking with some ppl you'll need to roll the fenders and make sure that you clearence is good i'll be running a 15x10 with a 325/15/50R on the car with a roll and pull possibly a mini tub if need be will have to wait and see once everything comes in also try this post http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-wheel-fitment-whore-thread-2.html
has good info and most ppl are gonna run a agressive offset with that wide of a rim
ps the widest you can put on the rim with out rubbing on a 9" rim is 255 or 265 so take that into consideration as well

This guy doesn't want to stretch tires, nor does he want to actually "tuck" anything... which makes your post completely irrelevant to this thread, other than pointing the guy towards the "wheel fitment whore" thread.

[SILVIA_KIDs14.5]

This guy doesn't want to stretch tires, nor does he want to actually "tuck" anything... which makes your post completely irrelevant to this thread, other than pointing the guy towards the "wheel fitment whore" thread.
well if you actually read what i wrote it does notice i'm putting a 325 wide tire on a 10" wide rim which last time i checked isn't stretchin by any means and when stretch is mention it is clearly ment by stretchen the tire not fenders :mrmeph:

[SoSideways]

well if you actually read what i wrote it does notice i'm putting a 325 wide tire on a 10" wide rim which last time i checked isn't stretchin by any means and when stretch is mention it is clearly ment by stretchen the tire not fenders :mrmeph:

325 is actually bulged on a 10" wide rim. And you're talking about a 15" rim. Thread starter is talking about 17" rims.

So no, you're the moron, which is spelled "moron", not "moorn" like you did when you tried to leave me a neg rep.

Please learn to read the thread, digest the posts, then use your brain to think about it for a little while, THEN make a post if you still think your post will add to the thread, or you are correcting someone else's posts.

Which in this case, I hope you see why your post is pretty much irrelevant other than the "go check out the 'wheel fitment whore' thread" comment.

[ericcastro]

^LMAO! ouch.........

[dori_sil8t]

it does notice i'm putting a 325.........kinda like it puts the lotion on the skin?
^^^^^^^^
lol why isnt this lockd???

[racepar1]

17x10+12 225/45

SHIT LOAD CAMBER!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b304/cruizer123/fnfs003.jpg

no rubbing on rolled/hammered fenders.

Cody you just LOVE to whore your car out huh? LOL!

listen for the ten inch rim your gonna wanna run anyware form a +12 off to a -12 off i'm going through this process now and after SEARCHING and talking with some ppl you'll need to roll the fenders and make sure that you clearence is good i'll be running a 15x10 with a 325/15/50R on the car with a roll and pull possibly a mini tub if need be will have to wait and see once everything comes in also try this post http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-wheel-fitment-whore-thread-2.html
has good info and most ppl are gonna run a agressive offset with that wide of a rim
ps the widest you can put on the rim with out rubbing on a 9" rim is 255 or 265 so take that into consideration as well

well if you actually read what i wrote it does notice i'm putting a 325 wide tire on a 10" wide rim which last time i checked isn't stretchin by any means and when stretch is mention it is clearly ment by stretchen the tire not fenders :mrmeph:

Dude, my fucking head hurts from trying to read these effin posts. Are there any actual sentences there or just A.D.D. rambling?

[Devens240]

and there is no way a 10" wide wide wheel with -12 offset is going to clear unless its widebody!

[dogg4217]

Took me literally 1 min to find this under the Maximum Tire Thread.

thread starter suggested i should post here so, here goes

Wheels: Enkei RPF1 17x9.5 +18 (+15 w/ 3 mm spacer) front, 17x10 +18 rear

Tires: front 235/40/17 Kumho Ecsta 711, rear 255/40/17 Falken FK452

PURPOSE OF CAR: street/track/both (plan to be taken off the street in the near future)

front has been lowered more since these pics were taken

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2585359690_539e70fb90_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2585359186_5d2605b2ae_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3267/2585428644_1694bfc75c_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2584528293_9944207a5b_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2586289154_a0baa90ddf_o.jpg

[Devens240]

beautiful. looks like he has pulled the front some and pulled the rear quite a bit

[ThatGuy]

That's a minimal pull. Nothing major.

[twotone89]

and there is no way a 10" wide wide wheel with -12 offset is going to clear unless its widebody!


i call bs! im running 18x10 -8 so -4 more should fit just fine....
dont believe me.. i bought the wheels on zilvia check my shit....

eh somewhat stretched 245/40

[SoSideways]

i call bs! im running 18x10 -8 so -4 more should fit just fine....
dont believe me.. i bought the wheels on zilvia check my shit....

eh somewhat stretched 245/40

Nobody said it wouldn't fit........ with quite a bit of neg camber.

OP said he wants to have like .5° of neg camber, so no, 10" -8 wouldn't fit unless he pulled it a bit.

[twotone89]

Nobody said it wouldn't fit........ with quite a bit of neg camber.

OP said he wants to have like .5° of neg camber, so no, 10" -8 wouldn't fit unless he pulled it a bit.


i was quoting the guy that said it would have to be widebody.. im right there with you on the camber and stretch/pull

[ThatGuy]

The guy you quoted, is the Thread starter, who stated he does not want to run alot of camber. So, in his eyes and opinion, no it doesn't "fit". Please follow along with the thread.

[Om1kron]

Not to mention if you want to tuck wheel and run Auto-x that means your shit would have to be SUNK. If not you're going to chew the hell out of the sidewalls of those non-stretched tires. You do realize the rear wheels and tires move when you take hard corners, right?

And if it's used for Drag racing, having the rear end dropped that far will not yield good launches.

I think you need to rethink what it is you actually want.

In a nutshell he wants to be one of the kids that aren't running VW offsets on his shit so other forums and snobby douchebags at the auto x dont tell him he's some kind of cholo ricer lol.

[Devens240]

lol whatever. i basically wantedi to know how wide of wheel i could run with minimal camber that wouldn't rub,and some of these posts have been very helpful. others... mehh haha. but thanx for all the useful info, and i shouldnt have put "tuck" in the headline, as that is not necessarily what i want to do

[aNskY]

i have 17x10 +25 in rear with 255/40 rt-615's and fitment appears it will be perfect upon slight pull (im lazy and havent done it yet)
you will need 4x4 status or flares to run 275s

[Rayne]

thats like saying from your point of view delaware is in asia

a wheel is a wheel, it can also be called a rim

a tire is a tire

there is no word for a wheel and tire combination...


And that is the beauty of definitions combined with an individual's point of view. Some people call a rim a wheel. While others may call a rim a "Mag."

[QuickSpoolSR]

Wheels: WedsSports TC-005's 18x8.5 +32 18x10 +43
Tires: 245/35 and 275/30


Its an 18 but you could run 17's and use a taller tire, and i dont think his geometry is all janked, its not riding that low.file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/WILLIA%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg
http://images23.fotki.com/v869/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_1880-vi.jpg

[Devens240]

nice. those things are HUGE haha.

[ericcastro]

And that is the beauty of definitions combined with an individual's point of view. Some people call a rim a wheel. While others may call a rim a "Mag."

I think your desperatly grasping at straws to win a ebattle!
A "mag" by definition is a Magnesium alloy rim.
But talk to any older guy at the track and he will tell you these are the two styles of are "MAG's".

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-talk/5780d1106449099-cragar-mags-on-05-cragar-rim.jpg

or the classic "slotted mag".

http://www.frontiernet.net/%7Ejray1977/Baja/SlottedMags14.jpg

I dont know alot of people calling there rims, "MAG's"

[racepar1]

And that is the beauty of definitions combined with an individual's point of view. Some people call a rim a wheel. While others may call a rim a "Mag."

WRONG! Like castro said, the term "mag" is referring to a wheel made from a magnesium alloy. On top of that I have never heard the term "mag" used without the word "wheel" directly after it, "mag wheel".

[240cracker]

thoughs white wheels r hidious

[ericcastro]

^they are actually forged magnesium. not white. and its wheels that ALOT of racecars from the 70's and into the 80's ran. In almost all divisions of racing.

You must be pretty young or don't follow much about motorsports history :)



no worries, they are pretty ugly,;) but they are also 20 to 30 years old. Imagine what people will think of your rims in 30 years?? Shit, we cant stand the MoMo arrows and VX1's of 1995!!! and that was 10 years ago!! lol.

[racepar1]

^they are actually forged magnesium. not white. and its wheels that ALOT of racecars from the 70's and into the 80's ran. In almost all divisions of racing.

You must be pretty young or don't follow much about motorsports history :)



no worries, they are pretty ugly,;) but they are also 20 to 30 years old. Imagine what people will think of your rims in 30 years?? Shit, we cant stand the MoMo arrows and VX1's of 1995!!! and that was 10 years ago!! lol.

I would still rock those old skool mags! They probably weigh like 10 lbs each.

[ericcastro]

^I ran some on one of my 510 coupes. L22 engine, 15" slotted mags.
They also look good on american muscle and old 240's, 260's, 280's.

Just got to put the age appropirate rims on the same age car :)

Starsky and hutch had em right?? lol

[Rayne]

I think your desperatly grasping at straws to win a ebattle!
A "mag" by definition is a Magnesium alloy rim.
But talk to any older guy at the track and he will tell you these are the two styles of are "MAG's".

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-talk/5780d1106449099-cragar-mags-on-05-cragar-rim.jpg

or the classic "slotted mag".

http://www.frontiernet.net/%7Ejray1977/Baja/SlottedMags14.jpg

I dont know alot of people calling there rims, "MAG's"


Think what you wish, I never intended argue with anyone. I did however simply intend to state what I was thinking when the word "Wheel" was mentioned. Unfortunately, due to point of views several people it may seem the contrary is true.

As for people who call rims/wheels a mag(s) have a conversation with individuals in South Africa.

Anyway, I never intended on posting in this thread beyond my initial post. If there were any arguments to be won regarding "Wheels" I could careless about the semantics.

On a final note, I am not angry nor should any of my posts on this site be misconstrued in that manner.

[ericcastro]

No worries.

I just try to correct anything that I know is wrong on this entire site.

Otherwise it gets pulled up one day by some kid. Then he gets the wrong info, but goes around quoteing it. Pretty soon theres a shit ton of bad info out there.

Of course, this thread started off weak and could have been solved with a trip to the search button.

Rims, Tires, and Offsets are some of the most covered subjects on here!! lol

[Firestorm]

i run 9.5" wide 17s, offset is 38. i run 255/40R17 tires.

they rub on the lip when the suspension is compressed, so i need at least a roll. camber is -1.5°

so if you really want to run 10s you will have to pull the fenders. personally i wouldn't go with any higher offset than 30. my rims have about an inch before they would hit the upright near the toe rod. (with 18" rims this shouldn't be an issue).

besides tucking 17s is pointless as many people before me already stated.

[Marc240]

depends on the offset of the rim.
You sound as though this is your first time rim fitting your car.

You might have better luck going with a FN, and them running a wide tire on the back. Much more easier for YOU.

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-wheel-fitment-whore-thread.html < LOOK HERE

[Devens240]

haha whats up marc? yeah im selling my 240 and buying a shell to build. i just bought a fender roller too. yeah i think i might get the FN 17" by 10" with the +35. i saw a pic of them on some guys car and they cleared the coils and fender with a slight pull

[Marc240]

FN's are the best with 17X10's with a +12 offset.
4 or 5 lug?

[Devens240]

5 lug. but i dont think +12 will clear the fenders without alot of camber

[smelly240]

with 275s u'll need to go with the +25 -=- and it'll look whack

it should fit tho.... I would run the camber and fit the +12's myself - or get overs. But on stock metal you'll prolly go with the +25 ones with under a degree of camber

[QuickSpoolSR]

why would a 17x10 +25 look wack, look at those 18x10 +43's up there i think they look pretty sexy to me

[G_sl1de]

ooooh classic mags!!

[Def]

why would a 17x10 +25 look wack, look at those 18x10 +43's up there i think they look pretty sexy to me

They look wack with a 215 or something on there, but get in the 245-255 range and they fit an S13 good. An S14 has more body width back there, so the +12s wouldn't require you to get as aggressive on the body as an S13.

[let5l1de]

Hey i was wondering if i could tuck 10" wide wheels (rear) on an s13 with less than 1 degree of camber and only a roll and pull. also would a 255 or a 275 be square? i dont want to stretch...

the answer is yes with 255.

not sure about 275's on a 10" wide

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18x9.5 +28mm (Rays)
255/35/18 (Falken 512) here is tire specs link
(http://www.falkentire.com/#/Tires/Tuner/ZE-512) -2.0 deg camber (still room for -1deg)
rolled fenders (all the way)
tein flex
car is not slammed form proper arm movement/geometry

wheel size (confirmed)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/let5l1de/240sx/IMG_0219_sm.jpg

additional room of 30mm (confirmed) (leave 5mm clearance, things move around)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/let5l1de/240sx/IMG_0234_sm.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/let5l1de/240sx/IMG_0222_sm.jpg

no pull (confirmed) just rolled
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/let5l1de/240sx/dc_91.jpg



As you can see, there is plenty of room to fit the 10" wide wheels without any question. Just do your homework as far as parts mfg, specs & adjustments.

Variables in your wheel/tire assembly & clearance to body & parts.


Wheel mfg. (offsets from mfg vary)
tire size ( all 255 are not 255mm and so on. check your tire mfg specs)
Adjustable RUCA is recommended
LCA may need adjustment via eccentric bolts.
Fender Roll & Pull
Brand / type coilover



DONE.

[drftwerks]

what the fuck do you need a 275 for anyway?

[McRussellPants]

what the fuck do you need a 275 for anyway?

if you have 350+ wheel and you want your car to move.

[SixSpeedSleuth]

if you have 350+ wheel and you want your car to move.

+1. I would love to fit a 300 width tire, but on stock fenders that will NEVER happen. I'll just have to live with 255 Azenis until I pony up for MT ET Streets.

[drftwerks]

if he has the knowledge or know how to have 350 + in a 240, then he should be able to manage to fit tires he wants.

[mrcahh]

Think what you wish, I never intended argue with anyone. I did however simply intend to state what I was thinking when the word "Wheel" was mentioned. Unfortunately, due to point of views several people it may seem the contrary is true.

As for people who call rims/wheels a mag(s) have a conversation with individuals in South Africa.

Anyway, I never intended on posting in this thread beyond my initial post. If there were any arguments to be won regarding "Wheels" I could careless about the semantics.

On a final note, I am not angry nor should any of my posts on this site be misconstrued in that manner.
would love to see pics of these on a s13.

[240drifter1]

Really? How old is this shit? Lol