shitbox or poop coupe ?

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

Hey guys i've just recently turned 16 and would like to get a 240sx but my parents do not want me to since they think if I crash it it I will die.Because of this my mom wants me to get some econobox ,and my dad some freakin beater chevy. As you can tell im more of a car ethusiast so neither of those cars appeal to me is there any way I can convince them to let me get a 240sx ,besides the fact it gets good gas mileage ...stock:naughty: . P.S I am paying for this car with my money.

THANKS GUYS .

[drftwerks]

it does not get good gas mpg, its considers a sports coupe.

[eastcoastS14]

I crashed my last 240 hard into a telephone pole and didnt die...I mean you can die in any car if you crash it the right way, lich of the draw i guess

[duffman1278]

Well, from my point of view, I have NO idea who your parents are, what they like or ANYTHING for that matter, so their would be know way I could convince them, why not just get a another model of nissan, or a honda, their both well built and very economical. But theres really no reason I could give your parents to make them believe a 240 will be the right car for you, since I said, I dunno them.

[eulalia]

trust me get a beater right now, and when you get the 240 once you save up the money to get it yourself, you will cherish it more

i had a 1991 toyota corolla, that ran really good, but i hated it because women hated it.. lol

so now that i have a 240, i treat it like a little baby

i know thats not what you want to hear, but if i had a 240 at age 16 i would have killed myself, because i drove way to reckless back then

[ill_concepts]

ya 240's MPG Sucks. And they aernt know to being a very "safe" car. Just dont go out and try to drift and crash, go to the track first!! Good luck

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

thanks guys , just keep the more positive help comin lol

[96Turbo]

if you want a "safe" and "fast" car....then do exactly as i did. Get a saab turbo. It's a big box of steel and glass. Extremely good crash test ratings etc. Up the boost till it overcomes the heft of all that steel. You might be thinking that FWD blow's, but damn that car was fun. 21psi on stock engine with a few bolt ons hell yea!

Oh yea, not to mention full leather interior, heated seats, digital display unit thingy, classy interior, the bitches love it. None of that can be said bout an S13

[g-via]

if ur paying for the car with your money then buy what you want.

unless "your" money is allowance or something? I don't understand what goes on with kids these days...

your money = your choice

[LA_phantom_240]

A 240sx is NOT a good car to try and convince your parents to let you have... You gotta have time and money on your side, as they are old cars, many of which have had abusive pasts. I've had 4 240's, personally. I loved em, but man did they turn into money pits.

If you're gonna get a 240, get an s14. In my exeperience, my s14 has been so much better on maintenance and function than any of my s13s were.

[nismo racer]

if you have the money then buy it! i dont knw whats stoppin you?

[ManoNegra]

I think you're parents have the right idea.
When you can live on your own and can afford it buy whatever car you want. You'll appreciate and take care of it better than if it were just handed to you. No ill feelings, just my honest opinion.

[Matej]

It's impossible to kill yourself in a 240. I've seen so many pictures of wrecked 240's which looked like instant death, yet all of the people walked away with scratches at most.

[Full-Lock]

im pretty sure the 240sx did outstanding in crash test ratings..
rollcage will improve safety..tell them its necessary lol

[civilized_drifter]

a star football player at my school died in a 92 hatch when it was raining.

do you want a 240 because of f&f3?

[JRas]

tell them you don't want a shitty car that isn't worth building up.

I was 17, when I bought my S14 ( my first car ) and I don't regret it at all

gl convincing your parents

[iitywygms]

http://www.automotive.com/1993/12/nissan/240sx/crash-tests/index.html

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

a star football player at my school died in a 92 hatch when it was raining.

do you want a 240 because of f&f3?
no im not a effing ricer lol , i want it so i can take to some local events up at evergreen

[landins13]

do what i did, buy it park it in the driveway and tell your parents to deal, theyll get over it soon enough

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

http://www.automotive.com/1993/12/nissan/240sx/crash-tests/index.html
holy shit ,thats pretty good for something that aint got airbags

[Gnnr]

97 240sx Crash Test Rating:

http://www.safercar.gov/portal/site/safercar/menuitem.db847bd57e3dc1f885dfc38c35a67789/?vgnextoid=c95df2905bf54110VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCR D&make=Nissan&model=240SX&year=1997&vehicleClass=Passenger+Car

Its good enough, seen many crashed 240s, online and in junkyards. They seem to fare well. I believe that S14s have side impact beams.

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

97 240sx Crash Test Rating:

http://www.safercar.gov/portal/site/safercar/menuitem.db847bd57e3dc1f885dfc38c35a67789/?vgnextoid=c95df2905bf54110VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCR D&make=Nissan&model=240SX&year=1997&vehicleClass=Passenger+Car

Its good enough, seen many crashed 240s, online and in junkyards. They seem to fare well. I believe that S14s have side impact beams.
problem with the s14 is its new so insurance is through the roof

[Eyemfaster]

problem with the s14 is its new so insurance is through the roof

new? even the newest are 10 years old man.

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

new? even the newest are 10 years old man.
OBD2 is the key when i said that

[murda-c]

OBD2=higher insurance?

[s13.5ftw]

s14 new? get a 95 unless your talking about a kouki and even if you are the newest kouki is a 98 which is 10 years old, i dont know if they consider that being new.. :confused:

edit: lol eyemfaster beat me to it :P

[JohnJunYi]

yeah man take it to evergreen, although evergreens track is sort of not for newbs has shit load of tractor tires and walls. my first car i bought was a s14, was a pile. take a parent when buying the car they will see the flaws you miss.

[LS240]

im pretty sure the 240sx did outstanding in crash test ratings..
rollcage will improve safety..tell them its necessary lol

Umm....how about no. A roll bar has possible benefits in a street car(as long as it's far enough from your head), but a full cage is a big safety no no. Unprotected head + rollcage = I hope your family has enough money saved up for a decent funeral.

[lil240sx95]

I think you're parents have the right idea.
When you can live on your own and can afford it buy whatever car you want. You'll appreciate and take care of it better than if it were just handed to you. No ill feelings, just my honest opinion.

he does have a point...and 240's dont get good gas mileage..

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

yeah man take it to evergreen, although evergreens track is sort of not for newbs has shit load of tractor tires and walls. my first car i bought was a s14, was a pile. take a parent when buying the car they will see the flaws you miss.
how old were you when you got it ?

[tjwooten84]

just do it. pretty soon there wont be any s13 or s14 around cause they will all be in junk yards. ive had a coupe and a hatch and a 14 and they were the best thing that ever happend for me.

[SC_S13]

seriously, you should get a saab 9-3 turbo, some sort of sedan, or a toyota. and plus, the ladies appreciate not having to climb into the back everytime they get in. just depends on what you want.

[markyboi]

if its your money, then why does your parents have control over which car you want to get?

i mean, IT is your money

[vr4gasmtt]

Well what exactly are your long term goals?If its really your money that you "worked" for I don't see any reason why they would say otherwise.

Don't make the mistakes that many people make though, if your planning on making it a full out track car get a beater car and save up for a shell and do it right the first time.

[PhAtXSuMo]

ok im 17 it took me 2 years to work(TOGOS) for almost 5 grand and it took me 2 years to convince my parents to buy a 240.. my family is a honda family... 2 CRV's, Honda Civic, Honda Accord, and a Acura Integra...

now i just got my first 240 like a month and a half ago with my own money just needed my parents fucking ok...

just takes time and patience goes into it i guess, so don't go ape shit lol

[5t341tH]

buy it and then they cant do anything about it. i got mine in 06 wen i was 18 and my parents were cool with it. just have it parked in ur driveway wen they get home and it doesnt matter what they say

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

HAHA yea those ideas are good. lol i mean i guess if im payin for its insurnace and all that shit they shouldnt care i guess

[BustedS13]

if your first car is a 240, you WILL total it. THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
your first car should always be a beater piece of shit you don't care about. and don't be mister cool kid, beating on his beater because it's a cheap pile of fuck. learn to respect your car early and you won't wind up parting out a car you like later.

[PhAtXSuMo]

HAHA yea those ideas are good. lol i mean i guess if im payin for its insurnace and all that shit they shouldnt care i guess

yeah true on dat man

i also pay for insurance, gas, my cell phone bills, and many more! i dont ever have fucking money to throw parts on my bitch lmao

[Jimmy Up]

I personally feel that since you are buying it with your own money youre going to think twice before you go all tokyo drift on the 210fwy. PICK UP THE 24:rawk: !!!!!!!!

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

Well what exactly are your long term goals?If its really your money that you "worked" for I don't see any reason why they would say otherwise.

Don't make the mistakes that many people make though, if your planning on making it a full out track car get a beater car and save up for a shell and do it right the first time.
do you have to get insurance on a shell?

[96Turbo]

RU serious?!?!?

not until you actually put an engine in it, get it put together, and its driveable...................or was that a joke?

[turtl631]

If you plan to drive it...


I'm pretty responsible and a 240 was my first car and I totaled it. That was an S14 in really nice shape though, not some beater S13, and I regretted not spending my money on something crappier the first time around.

[kognition]

If you are concerned about gas mileage, get a honda. If you want to live your life a 1/4 mile at a time, get a Nissan. Tell your parents that you want to go to Iraq to serve your country. See how fast they bow down. :bigok:

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

If you are concerned about gas mileage, get a honda. If you want to live your life a 1/4 mile at a time, get a Nissan. Tell your parents that you want to go to Iraq to serve your country. See how fast they bow down. :bigok:
I was actually thinkin about joinin the marines once i get outta high school so i can get some free college . lol

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

RU serious?!?!?

not until you actually put an engine in it, get it put together, and its driveable...................or was that a joke?
that actually was serious ,i mean ive never owned a car before so i know only a lil bit about insurance and shit

[ranger240]

your anti-beater argument should be that a 500 p.o.s. car is going to cost you more in maintainence and last less years than a decent 3k or so car

i d.d'ed my $3000 s13 for 4 years when the car was 12-16 years old at the time... had i gotten a $500 p.o.s., i would have gone through tons of shit cars w/ no resale value.

a car worth keeping is going to cost you less in the long-run than a cheap shit box thats about to die.


that damn s13 could still sell for 1700 bucks right now... freakin 6 years after i bought it, try that with a junky $800 chevy lumina or mercury topez

[ZenkiCam]

Just buy a "beater" 240. idk about WA 240's but GA 240s are great and ive had mine for a year (now i got 2) and havent had anything go wrong yet.

[96Turbo]

that actually was serious ,i mean ive never owned a car before so i know only a lil bit about insurance and shit

You only need insurance to drive your licensed car on public roads. If you buy a shell, it sure as hell won't be licensed, street legal, or even have an engine. Once you get it driveable and street legal then you get the plates and put insurance on it

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

You only need insurance to drive your licensed car on public roads. If you buy a shell, it sure as hell won't be licensed, street legal, or even have an engine. Once you get it driveable and street legal then you get the plates and put insurance on it
hmm im likin that idea ,buy a shell build it up right ,in the mean time having a lil honda civic to daily .

[91SuperS13]

dude, make sure you take it to a mechanic before you buy. and if they seller wont let you, I suggest walkin' away.

besides that I have a 91 hatch, and ten speeding tickets in three states within the last five years, and my insurance is $80 a month. that on top of the fact that I'm three years away from "classic car" status in my state. So no more emissions or inspection.:keke:

[Kwonza Says]

is your parents Asian? Then they never understand hahah it was tuff convincing my parents into me buying my car~ But they said it was my money and my Dong-cha "Poop Car"<---in korean...I love my car~ : )

[dirtdiggler666]

well my first car/truck was a 87 s10 woooo

if you want a 240 get one just learn how to drive first

dont be a fucking dumb kid and think you are all d1

just fucking drive the car

if you want to get crazy take it to a track so you wont kill yourself or someone else

its your money but you still live with your parents so what they say go's respect them

have fun

[Tearlessj]

Get a really shitty car at first and let it leak all over the driveway and garage.
Work on it like hell and it still is P.O.S. eventually your parents will feel sorry for you.
Then take them to go look at a good condition 240sx.
Be like "If you get me this, I'll sell the POS at home."

Hey, worked for me. lol :ugh:

[96Turbo]

hmm im likin that idea ,buy a shell build it up right ,in the mean time having a lil honda civic to daily .

Hell yea. I think it would be fun to start out with a shell. I woulda found one if i didn't find a MINT ass '89 that was totally stock.

If you find a shell in the midwest that ur gonna trailer home then come buy my KA24E from me!! It will get u on the road till ya get your SR, RB, CA, KADE, or hell you could turbo the KAE. I'll hook u up cheap. lol, enough promoting of my shit.

Do some soul searching and figure out what you REALLY want, that way you can build it up and keep it for a LONG time. I plan on keeping my S13 till i get too old to drive and/or crash it

[s13silvia123]

i crashed my first s13 when i just bought it in 2 weeks. then crashed again some idiot hit me. then again some idiot decided to slam on the brakes. then another idiot "i know him" backed up and hit my car again. so i got a new one. again.

but enough of the small talk have fun get one and trust me if its your money they cant say shiit after you get it. i did what you did bought my car on my own without my parents consent when i was a kid. then they couldnt say after i bought it.

[96Turbo]

the only problem is that he's not 18 yet, so legally he can't sign the title or actually register the thing......but i suppose you could pay someone cash, get them to transfer the title, and come home with car and make daddy sign it lol

[s13silvia123]

the only problem is that he's not 18 yet, so legally he can't sign the title or actually register the thing......but i suppose you could pay someone cash, get them to transfer the title, and come home with car and make daddy sign it lol

true that. the thing is that this law about buying a car when youre still underage is bullshiit. but the law is the law. its still bullshiit.

[KiLLeR2001]

It's impossible to kill yourself in a 240. I've seen so many pictures of wrecked 240's which looked like instant death, yet all of the people walked away with scratches at most.

crashed my white 240 hatchback into a tree and fucked shit up...

http://www.tehl33tsite.com/240sxdd/accident/11-05-07_1133.jpg

http://www.tehl33tsite.com/240sxdd/accident/11-05-07_1520.jpg

My friend crashed his '89 hatchback at like 40mph... i ended up getting a chipped tooth and need some stitches in my face, but I got out of the car feeling fine...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Ky4z_GpH9I

[ZenkiCam]

the only problem is that he's not 18 yet, so legally he can't sign the title or actually register the thing......but i suppose you could pay someone cash, get them to transfer the title, and come home with car and make daddy sign it lol

through a private seller a 16 y/o can sign a title in his name, thats not the case though at dealerships/ used cars sales.

[luftrofl]

the only problem is that he's not 18 yet, so legally he can't sign the title or actually register the thing......but i suppose you could pay someone cash, get them to transfer the title, and come home with car and make daddy sign it lol

Ditto. I was just about to post something along those lines.

Buying the car and telling your parents to deal with it is a quick way to get your ass thrown out of the house- not a wise move IMO.

OP- try to reason with your parents. Since you're using your own money, but your parents want safety, you could try asking them to put up some "airbag" money and get an S14 with the extra cash. Not sure if that'd work, but it's worth a shot unless you want to pay 100% on your own, as I did.

[alt.240.130]

if your first car is a 240, you WILL total it. THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
your first car should always be a beater piece of shit you don't care about. and don't be mister cool kid, beating on his beater because it's a cheap pile of fuck. learn to respect your car early and you won't wind up parting out a car you like later.

same goes for me.

Even if you do get one the S14 insurance will kill you. I think I'm at 250 a month for my 96 for full coverage. Get a civic, that was my first car. Since you're 16 with a sport coupe they will get their moneys worth. Just like mine

[ALEXTHESUS*PECT]

for now just get a sentra or corolla. if you join the service then just save your $$$ and get the 240sx then. you will have lots of $$ when you come back from going to iraq, as there isn't much to spend $$ on there!

[Icy13]

I have gotta say that it sucks to be male, under 25, and have a sport coupe in terms of insurance.

As much as I love my 240, get a nice, early 2000 sedan (mine was a 2000 mazda 626) with a stick that gets 27/32 millage and enjoy the slightly lower insurance. I would highly reccomend that you find something stick, though, as it will be good practice for the 240 if you eventually end up with one (as I did :))

or you could be lucky and in college in a city like austin where you dont need a car by the time you get the 240 and legally insured as an occasional driver of the 240 :).

[HalveBlue]

I have gotta say that it sucks to be male, under 25, and have a sport coupe in terms of insurance.

As much as I love my 240, get a nice, early 2000 sedan (mine was a 2000 mazda 626) with a stick that gets 27/32 millage and enjoy the slightly lower insurance. I would highly reccomend that you find something stick, though, as it will be good practice for the 240 if you eventually end up with one (as I did :))

or you could be lucky and in college in a city like austin where you dont need a car by the time you get the 240 and legally insured as an occasional driver of the 240 :).

And you know what doesn't suck? Being 25, male, in the Army, not getting tickets, and only paying $35 a month for insurance (includes renters insurance).

Booyah, sucka!

[LA_phantom_240]

if your first car is a 240, you WILL total it. THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
your first car should always be a beater piece of shit you don't care about. and don't be mister cool kid, beating on his beater because it's a cheap pile of fuck. learn to respect your car early and you won't wind up parting out a car you like later.

Lies. My first car was a 91 LE fastback. Second was a 90 Acura Legend. Third was another 91 SE fastback. Fourth was an 87 Celica. Fifth was a 93 SE Convertible. Now I have a 95 SE.

Never totalled or even so much much as bumped into anything.


I pay like $130 a month, liability. My s13's were more expensive, surprisingly.

[Jodan]

your parents seem like idiots.

[Neejay]

your parents seem like idiots.
That's one of the most worthless posts I've seen in a while.

I say IF, IF you could convince them to buy a 240sx, make sure it's in DAMN NEAR MINT condition (which is rare...good luck with that one).

But as stated, S13's can become money pits. Seriously.

[NismoS13Chuki]

yea 240s dont really get good gas mileage but they do have good crash ratings. especially the s13's but if you want something fast and save you best of with turbo volvos or saabs. They make insane numbers for their size. my first car was an 86 740gle wagon non turbo. it made 114hp and 138ft lbs or torque but when you took it out onto a stright it liked to haul ass. only downside was the 17/21 mpg which is why i got the 240. 19/24mpg. i really wouldnt recommend the 240 for beginners more like intermiddiates. the brskes especially on non abs s13's like to lock up, the hate traction in wet weather and the torque bands can get you into some trouble

[NismoS13Chuki]

Lies. My first car was a 91 LE fastback. Second was a 90 Acura Legend. Third was another 91 SE fastback. Fourth was an 87 Celica. Fifth was a 93 SE Convertible. Now I have a 95 SE.

Never totalled or even so much much as bumped into anything.


I pay like $130 a month, liability. My s13's were more expensive, surprisingly.
no airbags in s13's. it makes them more expensive

[Neejay]

Also, I got a discount due to automatic seatbelts...lol

If anything, show/tell the insurance company about the auto seatbelts then do a manual seatbelt conversion if you'd like. :P

[LA_phantom_240]

no airbags in s13's. it makes them more expensive

Good point. I love my s14. Greatest car I've had to date. Of course, its problems are annoying (itchy tach, blower amp is blown, windows need adjusting, random stuff), but it drives so much better than my s13s did. And the lighting is superb compared to the h4 popups.

[SW20Racer]

i didnt bother reading three pages worth of posts. i just wanna say this and go.

getting an econobox isnt a bad thing. not too long ago i had to sell project de-rice (s13 coupe) for something more "family friendly" and i was bummed when time forced me to settle for a 93 tercel coupe.

but i started doing some research and saving some money and making my ideas count (checking and double checking every mod i have planned, seeing if its worth it or not) and im having just as much fun with this wrong-wheel-drive econobox as i did with the s13

is drifting superduper necessary? if its not, (its not for me...) then go ahead and check out some econo's here's a few examples of econobox rides that can still be fun. (each one i list has the option to be turbocharged fairly easily)

91 4 door civic/91 civic hatch. (i love the way they look for some reason)

92-95 civic coupe/hatchback

2 door sentra (i like 2 doors better, thats why i mention it)

mx3 (a turbo miata engine fits like a glove...or like a well fitting condom, whatever analogy works for you)

tercel/paseo (4efte. look it up.)

isuzu impulse

early 90's saturn coupe

in the 80's ford released a 4 cylinder mustang. some rare cases came turbocharged. look into it.

ill come up with more later. the point is, while it is hard to find an fr econobox nowadays, you can still have an awesome time in an ff econobox if you plan it out right...

one thing i've come to love about my terc, the only "real" coilover set-up costs over a grand. which forced me to look elsewhere and i come to discover i love shock/spring combos. having an econobox helps alot in aspects like your budget. it forces you to search for parts and during those searches, you come across the best deals.

-nelson

[steve shadows]

I crashed my last 240 hard into a telephone pole and didnt die...I mean you can die in any car if you crash it the right way, lich of the draw i guess

me too :rawk:

[s14_legend]

in the end its your choice...a 240 is a great car...but for you first car...im not so sure

[JohnJohn86]

get a S14, at least you got airbags. add a cage if you have some extra $$

[zugoi]

The answer is get a VOLVO! Parents love them because of it being a really safe car. Insurance wont be to bad since its a volvo and Cops wont be on your ass because your driving your moms car. They come turbo charged and theres enough room in the engine bay to fit a v12. You can also fit a shitload of crap in the trunk. Enough said.

[Signum Temporis]

wait until you have the money to do the work thats gonna have to be done on it, then wait until you find one worth spending the money on, because ur in washington, theres probably a lot of rust-buckets driving around... or get one shipped from AZ...

i had an s13 for my first car when i was 17, and an s14 for my second when i was 18... the first was rusty... the second died because i was stupid and didnt know what i was doing.... wait till u got experiance under ur belt

[YoungGun]

I had a 240 as my first car (my old hatch) I didn't do stupid shit but I did get in a minor fender bender by following too close, you live and you learn. Also, I would actually wait until you turn 18 for the fact that you will get pulled over and then you don't have to ask your parents to go to court with you. I always felt bad asking my mom to come to court with me for a ticket as stupid as exhaust when I was a minor. Just a suggestion.

[boozels]

if it is your money they just buy it

[turtl631]

Some kind of civic is surely a good first car, as the support is great and they're quick enough with swaps, but the ricer tax on everything OEM is ridiculous.

B13 Sentras are neat, I was tempted to get one when I was replacing my first S14, but by that time I was doing some track events and the driving dynamics of FWD just didn't appeal to me. B13 Sentra SE-R would be fun even stock, and you could swap an SR20VE later on for way less than the equivalent Honda setup (K20? B20 VTEC? somewhere in between those two I'd imagine) would cost. They're just a bit hard to find in good shape.

[jackjack]

if your first car is a 240, you WILL total it. THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
your first car should always be a beater piece of shit you don't care about. and don't be mister cool kid, beating on his beater because it's a cheap pile of fuck. learn to respect your car early and you won't wind up parting out a car you like later.


thats really all that needs to be said.

right on............

http://www.ugo.com/versus/images/characters/gallery_Steve_Stifler_1.jpg

[Full-Lock]

you wont total it if you dont want to..
just dont do stupid shit..thats all it comes down to
dont drink and drive
be careful
be mature

just drive normal..dont show off

being a good driver has nothing to do with age..ive seen 15yr old kids that can drive better than some 30yr olds..only difference there is experience..not maturity.

you'll be fine

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

you wont total it if you dont want to..
just dont do stupid shit..thats all it comes down to
dont drink and drive
be careful
be mature

just drive normal..dont show off

being a good driver has nothing to do with age..ive seen 15yr old kids that can drive better than some 30yr olds..only difference there is experience..not maturity.

you'll be fine
thanks man the guys above you are just a bunch of :mrmeph: S but ive decided to go on and get a 240 whether my parents like it or not ,and hopefully ill have some pics of it posted up in a month or so if i can find one that has little to no cancer THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP .

[txrxs]

their house, their rules.

It is your money...but do you pay rent, do you eat their food, did they raise you? I love how kids think they deserve things because they made the money themselves without looking at the bigger picture.

oh and yeah, you will wreck it.

[Signum Temporis]

^^^.... he might be right... heres the best way to learn though, drive like a professional, keep it low and slow and save the speed for the track :2f2f:... best advice... GL on ur car though :)

o yeah... when ur looking at buying one TAKE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT CARS WITH YOU... if u dont u WILL get ripped off... dont be bringin ur friend who thinks they know about em... ive seen that when selling my 240s and i refuse to sell to them... also, get something clean and stock, thats gonna be ur best bet on a nice, reliable car

[chibo]

Listen to your fuckin parents. I bitched and whined until my dad let me buy a 240 when I was 17 or 18 (I don't remember). That old bastard was right, it was a pile of shit and I was working on it more than driving it. I never wrecked it (or any car so far... oh wait, I rolled my Land Cruiser but that was offroad) but I lost my ass on it in time and money. I know it sucks balls but just get a good daily driver until you can afford two cars or one newer car with a WARRANTY.

I mean, I don't regret it anymore since I learned a lot with that car and there was sooooo much crazy shit and memories that happened but shit... I could have spent that money on fucking more chicks in highschool. Oh, and the 240SX sucks for sneaking out every fuckin night. It's loud. :rofl: Oh god, fun times.

[slidewaysmn]

I got my 240 for my first car, i just looked 2 years prior for them, and talked about them non stop.

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

their house, their rules.

It is your money...but do you pay rent, do you eat their food, did they raise you? I love how kids think they deserve things because they made the money themselves without looking at the bigger picture.

oh and yeah, you will wreck it.
i am looking at the bigger pisture but i dont see how my parents have a ruling in this ? idk ,explain it to me ?

[Signum Temporis]

i am looking at the bigger pisture but i dont see how my parents have a ruling in this ? idk ,explain it to me ?

ur a dependancy, and under their health insurance plan

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

ur a dependancy, and under their health insurance plan
i some how according to my parents get it free since my mom works at the hospital ? idk how it works .

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

from my past experiences 240's are super strong. my first one I rolled down Azuza canyon 4 times, slamed it against the side of the mountain(lucky mofo i kno) and it landed on its side. I got out, tiped the car on its wheels, and drove it down the mountain without a scratch....... my second accident I was flirting with some girl on the freeway and some idiot in an 04 silverado slammed on his brakes, I rear ended him going 25-35ish and my car didn't even have a scratch!!! and whats worse is the guy's rear bumper folded down completely, and it was a chrome one too. So yea, 240's are really safe in my opinion.

[Signum Temporis]

your still under their plan and a dependancy

[Signum Temporis]

from my past experiences 240's are super strong. my first one I rolled down Azuza canyon 4 times, slamed it against the side of the mountain(lucky mofo i kno) and it landed on its side. I got out, tiped the car on its wheels, and drove it down the mountain without a scratch....... my second accident I was flirting with some girl on the freeway and some idiot in an 04 silverado slammed on his brakes, I rear ended him going 25-35ish and my car didn't even have a scratch!!! and whats worse is the guy's rear bumper folded down completely, and it was a chrome one too. So yea, 240's are really safe in my opinion.

fine print: RESULTS NOT TYPICAL

i hydroplaned into a lifted trucks tire and lost both headlights, front bumper, carbon hood, intercooler, fender, radiator and core support, plus i was about to sell the car for 8k and had to sell it to him for 4k... i was going literally 10 mph...

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

do you have to get insurance on a shell?

to better answer that quesion, no you don't, do what my buddy Rob does and keep it garaged, then when a track day comes arround don't forget to go to the DMV and get a one day temporary permit for the car, and they will give it to you, cops can't give you shit about not being insured or registered. Hope that helps

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

fine print: RESULTS NOT TYPICAL

i hydroplaned into a lifted trucks tire and lost both headlights, front bumper, carbon hood, intercooler, fender, radiator and core support, plus i was about to sell the car for 8k and had to sell it to him for 4k... i was going literally 10 mph...

did you have the metal bumper support thingie??

[flip3d]

I sold my 2000 Celica GT-S so I could get my S13 :P

I love how the S13 drives/handles but sometimes I just really miss having a newer car.

Oh and my insurance actually went up like $10

[Signum Temporis]

did you have the metal bumper support thingie??

had the metal part, not the foam... it wouldnt fit with the intercooler :-/... but still... 240's arent invincable is the point im trying to make

[luftrofl]

from my past experiences 240's are super strong. my first one I rolled down Azuza canyon 4 times, slamed it against the side of the mountain(lucky mofo i kno) and it landed on its side. I got out, tiped the car on its wheels, and drove it down the mountain without a scratch....... my second accident I was flirting with some girl on the freeway and some idiot in an 04 silverado slammed on his brakes, I rear ended him going 25-35ish and my car didn't even have a scratch!!! and whats worse is the guy's rear bumper folded down completely, and it was a chrome one too. So yea, 240's are really safe in my opinion.

You, sir, should not be driving.

[blasting_speed]

a star football player at my school died in a 92 hatch when it was raining.

do you want a 240 because of f&f3?

ahahahahah That's awesome dude. Straight to the point. He probably saw the first F&F and wants to drag race FDs. ahahahahahahahah

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

Yea, I agree, they are not at all invincible, but I mean shit man, I rolled it 4 times and the sides of the car weren' even dented in at all, all that happend was a shattered windshield and alot of surface scratches on the paint lol give the poor car some credit here.

[Signum Temporis]

idk, i havent really had good 240sx experiances, the s13s frame caved in on me from rust and you know what happened to the kouki... o yeah koukikankan... when u go to look at them... dont get all excited thinking "HOLY SHIT THIS CAR IS THE SHIT I MUST HAVE IT"... i know that feeling and its tempting... ur gonna run into a lot of shit piles before u find a good one most likely and that adreniline rush u get from just thinking about owning one can almost blind u from that... so keep ur head on straight when ur looking around for one

[youngbrazee1]

if ur paying for the car with your money then buy what you want.

unless "your" money is allowance or something? I don't understand what goes on with kids these days...

your money = your choice

yea what he said. i dnt know your parents but i do know that if you buy a car what can they do but give you gas money......sorry about the rebelliousnesshttp://www.zilvia.net/f/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ruben705]

well for my first car I got a 67 camaro. So tell em you want that, then tell em youll settle for a 240.

[s13Dr1ft]

if your first car is a 240, you WILL total it. THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
your first car should always be a beater piece of shit you don't care about. and don't be mister cool kid, beating on his beater because it's a cheap pile of fuck. learn to respect your car early and you won't wind up parting out a car you like later.

Where do you get that from? My first two cars when i was 14 was a 89 coupe and 89 hatch. I never wrecked either of them.

[JRas]

just drive smart, don't pretend to be a good driver because simply you're not.

I bought an S14 as my first car, still driving it now, never been in an accident (knock on wood) and I don't plan on being in one.

gonna say it again BE SMART!

edit: insurance is not high, I pay $80 a month for full coverage ( dad is on plan ).

[s13Dr1ft]

from my past experiences 240's are super strong. my first one I rolled down Azuza canyon 4 times, slamed it against the side of the mountain(lucky mofo i kno) and it landed on its side. I got out, tiped the car on its wheels, and drove it down the mountain without a scratch....... my second accident I was flirting with some girl on the freeway and some idiot in an 04 silverado slammed on his brakes, I rear ended him going 25-35ish and my car didn't even have a scratch!!! and whats worse is the guy's rear bumper folded down completely, and it was a chrome one too. So yea, 240's are really safe in my opinion.

Im going out on a limb and saying you lie alot.

[HyperTek]

this is asked alot some times.

I got my s13 in 01 i was in highschool, the cars where still worth about 5k...

Now i see alot of teenage kids with beat up s13s and the price range of 240s dropped alot.

It took the place of the 89-91 honda civic as far as cheapness.

Unfortunately, theres not many cool cars, either you get an old*er* 80s-90s rwd car (select few), or a late model borring econo slush box fwd.

even now, people ask me why i like these old cars... theres no cooler newer cars.

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

idk, i havent really had good 240sx experiances, the s13s frame caved in on me from rust and you know what happened to the kouki... o yeah koukikankan... when u go to look at them... dont get all excited thinking "HOLY SHIT THIS CAR IS THE SHIT I MUST HAVE IT"... i know that feeling and its tempting... ur gonna run into a lot of shit piles before u find a good one most likely and that adreniline rush u get from just thinking about owning one can almost blind u from that... so keep ur head on straight when ur looking around for one
Yea I know the rush your talkin about I just went and looked at this 89 coupe looked real FUCKING clean and all,and I was serious about buying so I asked for a buyers inspection and the rear frame rail was rusted to fuck.And BTW thanks for all the info guys .

[dragon_x330]

Get a beater. Forget about the 240sx for now. 'Nuff said.

I remember I really wanted a 240 back when I was 15 years old. My dad bought one for my birthday when I turned 16. I used to illegally drive it around recklessely, speeding and racing left and right when I had the chance (Thank god I never got caught).

However, I'm pretty glad I didn't get my license until I was 18 and a LOT more mature. Now I baby my cars because now I know that just because you CAN you shouldnt redline your car at a red stoplight just to impress people with your 2800 lb 155 hp car.

Plus right now everybody's getting 240's. Many of them are abused and beaten down. Hard. It's hard to find a good condition S13/S14 nowadays, although you can find them but they're uber marked up. Wanna pay $3500-$5000 for a clean S13? I didn't think so.

Morale of the story: Get a beater and drive for a few years, when you're older and a bit more mature then get a 240. Nothing is more scary than driving a 240SX in winter (esp wisconsin winters...*shivers*). Trust me, I've owned/driven nothing but 240's since I was 15 through ALL the seasons.

/rant

[JohnJunYi]

how old were you when you got it ?
16 years old. first car i ever bought

[NismoS13Chuki]

Ditto. I was just about to post something along those lines.

Buying the car and telling your parents to deal with it is a quick way to get your ass thrown out of the house- not a wise move IMO.

OP- try to reason with your parents. Since you're using your own money, but your parents want safety, you could try asking them to put up some "airbag" money and get an S14 with the extra cash. Not sure if that'd work, but it's worth a shot unless you want to pay 100% on your own, as I did.
thats a lie you can register your car no matter what age. im 16 and i registered my car in my name.

[koukimonster139]

lol

this thread is dumber than aids

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

WHY THE FUCK AM I GETTING NEG REPPED FOR THIS THREAD . I'm gettin shit like "geo metro","your a newb" and stupid shit.All i asked for was some help assholes ,and this is what you give me ? well fuck you guys no wonder everyone says ppl on zilvia are douchebags . Ohh and dont take this the wrong way ppl that actually HELPED ME .

[aznpoopy]

the 240sx is a perfect first car if you're not a complete dumbass, as long as the price isn't ridiculous from being overhyped

but when they pay for your shit you gotta do what they say. no exceptions. money is control. learn that early. lol.

[Ninjabread]

I've had my s13 since I was 17 (two years now :P).

Just don't drive like a dummy and you'll be fine.

I get REAL good gas mileage with a light foot, and tuned up KA.

[KOUKI KAN KAN]

I've had my s13 since I was 17 (two years now :P).

Just don't drive like a dummy and you'll be fine.

I get REAL good gas mileage with a light foot, and tuned up KA.
What kind of mileage are we talkin about here ? lol

[Ninjabread]

you can do the conversion from km to miles or wtv

but highway driving, i get 610-620ish km (385 miles) to a tank.

street driving i can squeeze it to 500km (310miles) a tank

[koukimonster139]

*note to self:

neg rep kouki kan kan as much as possible

[flip3d]

Get an N/A FC RX-7. You'll love it.

I'm actually looking for one now but people in Florida like to charge "drift tax" so they're all so damn expensive.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

Get an N/A FC RX-7. You'll love it.

I'm actually looking for one now but people in Florida like to charge "drift tax" so they're all so damn expensive.

Those cars are actually pretty darn cool, u jus gotta baby those blow-happy rotaries, I see so many at the junk yard tho, I always wonder why.

[s13Dr1ft]

Who negged me calling me an Idiot? Leave your name big guy.

[turtl631]

LOL @ everyone saying that a 240 is a tough first car because you won't be able to control it, like it's a blown bigblock or something. Every 240 I see is driven by either a skinny fanboy trying to look hard, or middle aged people who have no clue that anybody out there even cares about these cars. They're not crashing. If you're gonna crash a 240 as your first car, it's because you drive like a moron. Get something cheaper so it doesn't matter, you learn your lesson, and you haven't depleted the world of another decent car. I'm guilty of the same- I totaled my first 240. I tried to compress my braking zones while driving in the mountains. Completely retarded, and now I do track events to satisfy the urge to drive hard.

[morbid]

^^ I know right. The only thing a 240 has that would be dangerous for a newbie is RWD... it has 155hp its not that hard to drive. Teenagers trying to buy an M3 or Cobra or Vette or SS should be told they might not able to handle it. Not a kid trying to buy a $2000 Nissan. People tell him to get a beater, lol. A 240 is a beater. And you said your paying for the car, so more power to you. Just buy the car and pretend its a civic your parents won't notice.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

^^ I know right. The only thing a 240 has that would be dangerous for a newbie is RWD... it has 170hp its not that hard to drive. Teenagers trying to buy an M3 or Cobra or Vette or SS should be told they might not able to handle it. Not a kid trying to buy a $2000 Nissan. People tell him to get a beater, lol. A 240 is a beater. And you said your paying for the car, so more power to you. Just buy the car and pretend its a civic your parents won't notice.


thank you, well said