how to: adjust camber?

[niberlin]

Hello there! I need to adjust my camber to get my wheels to fit.
How can i do this on a 200sx/240sx s13?

I want to adjust my camber more negative on both front and back.
What do i need to buy? Is there an guide here somwhere? I tried to search, but i did no find anything usefull.

[one_eighty_180]

do you have coilovers with pillow ball mounts? thats how you can adjust the fronts...

[joshchewuhh]

You will have to get RUCA's

Rear Upper Control Arm

[NemeGuero]

Rear Upper Control Arms (RUCAS) for the rear

and like one eighty said: camber plates on your coilovers

[niberlin]

I kit original suspension with new springs. (on the car when i bought it)
Can i get a link to where i can buy all this?(Good stuff at a fair price). I would rather not buy new coilovers for now.
Is there a guide somewhere?

[NemeGuero]

there are many places.

I don't know if there are just camber plates available without buying coilovers. ($700~$2,000)
but the list of available coilovers is too long

Rucas are also available anywhere. (~$200)

I don't know what kind of Guide you need.
You should probably have the car properly aligned at an alignment shop unless you have all the tools necessary. (which you more than likely don't)

[Matej]

Camber plates don't do much, if you want wild negative camber in the front, you'll need adjustable front lower control arms, or I've heard of people using S14 FLCA's on S13's but you have to trim the bushings I think.

[spool_sample]

Camber plates don't do much, if you want wild negative camber in the front, you'll need adjustable front lower control arms, or I've heard of people using S14 FLCA's on S13's but you have to trim the bushings I think.

You can also slot the struts and/or use camber bolts.

[pete240]

This may be a little off topic but has anyone tried these out?

Battle Version Weld on front control arm Kit
http://storesense.megawebservers.com/stores/HS318/catalog/bvcontrol.JPG

[Matej]

You can also slot the struts and/or use camber bolts.
How does one slot struts? I've always heard about it but never seen it, do you just drill extra holes in the strut towers?

By the way do you have personal experience with camber bolts, or is there anyone in here who does? I've been thinking about getting a pair for the front, but I'm afraid that they might turn around or just adjust themselves to an optimal position so there's as little pressure on them as possible, is the force of how hard I tighten them the only thing that keeps them at the camber setting I want?

Sorry for the thread jack.

[rhs13]

added camber isnt the only option out there, and may not be the "best" option.

[aznpoopy]

How does one slot struts? I've always heard about it but never seen it, do you just drill extra holes in the strut towers?

By the way do you have personal experience with camber bolts, or is there anyone in here who does? I've been thinking about getting a pair for the front, but I'm afraid that they might turn around or just adjust themselves to an optimal position so there's as little pressure on them as possible, is the force of how hard I tighten them the only thing that keeps them at the camber setting I want?

Sorry for the thread jack.

imagine the front spindle where it connects to the strut, via two bolts.

you slot the hole for the top bolt. that allows the spindle to be tilted, altering camber angle.

some coilovers (like silkroads) come with this 'feature.' the rma8s have an square washer with an eccentricly drilled hole, locking in the slotted setting and allowing four camber settings.

[Matej]

you slot the hole for the top bolt. that allows the spindle to be tilted, altering camber angle.
Ah that definitely makes sense, thanks for clearing that up for me, now I know this definitely isn't the route for me haha, I'd rather not drill or slot any parts of my car unless it's absolutely necessary.

[rhs13]

Ah that definitely makes sense, thanks for clearing that up for me.

i hope your wheels have a good amount of negative camber so the top of the wheel doesnt hit your strut. i'd make the slots bigger gradually. dont get too excited and over do it.

[njd07]

does anyone know if the stock ruca camber adjustment bolts will be able to get me within suggested oe camber spec after I lower my s13? (15x7's wheels, dont plan to lower it crazy)

[NemeGuero]

Who the hell wants "suggested OE camber spec?"

[rhs13]

does anyone know if the stock ruca camber adjustment bolts will be able to get me within suggested oe camber spec after I lower my s13? (15x7's wheels, dont plan to lower it crazy)

that's a pretty specific answer for an un-specific question. "lower it crazy" is pretty subjective.

in my experience, a lot of aftermarket RUCAs dont add enough positive camber when something is lowered mad crazy, much less the stock camber adjustment bolts.

Who the hell wants "suggested OE camber spec?"

haha

[niberlin]

This may be a little off topic but has anyone tried these out?

Battle Version Weld on front control arm Kit
http://storesense.megawebservers.com/stores/HS318/catalog/bvcontrol.JPG

Those look quite nice. any experiences?

What about these?
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=120_451_130_134_292&products_id=940&PHPSESSID=a5072d1a13920412d438a6b24da71fba
and
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=120_451_130_134_292&products_id=690&PHPSESSID=a5072d1a13920412d438a6b24da71fba

[njd07]

Who the hell wants "suggested OE camber spec?"

I dont want mine to be more then -1.5 to -2....tires last longer if you dont have crazy camber you know. iirc nissans suggested is -1

[cdlong]

Camber plates don't do much, if you want wild negative camber in the front, you'll need adjustable front lower control arms, or I've heard of people using S14 FLCA's on S13's but you have to trim the bushings I think.

using a longer control arm will add camber but it will also push the tire closer to the fender. that's the opposite of what the original poster and most people that run lots of camber are trying to do.

[picho]

using a longer control arm will add camber but it will also push the tire closer to the fender. that's the opposite of what the original poster and most people that run lots of camber are trying to do.
that is correct:hyper:

[a_ahmed]

wide fenders u pussies

[NemeGuero]

I dont want mine to be more then -1.5 to -2....tires last longer if you dont have crazy camber you know. iirc nissans suggested is -1

Toe kills tires. Camber just makes them wear unevenly.

The time you lose is hardly noticeable. And if you are that cheap, you can rotate them and they'll last just as long.

[njd07]

Toe kills tires. Camber just makes them wear unevenly.

The time you lose is hardly noticeable. And if you are that cheap, you can rotate them and they'll last just as long.

I know what camber and toe does to the tires. I dont wanna have to rotate the tires if I dont have to.

I'm not cheap..this is for my s13 sr track car, ive already spent enough on it . My friend gave me a free master set of es bushings...so just gonna install those. I wanna save my money for track days/running the car, just spent $1000 bucks on 3 sets of 615's. I also have an s14 sr kouki that I daily...please dont call me cheap...im not cheap...well atleast when it comes to car shit lol.

[alex37211]

sorry for raising the dead, but is there a way to add possitive camber on the back of an s14 using washers? I know ppl do it on Hondas all the time.

[ManoNegra]

sorry for raising the dead, but is there a way to add possitive camber on the back of an s14 using washers? I know ppl do it on Hondas all the time.

Don't know about Hondas, but I don't see how this would work on an S14.
Just get some SPL RUCAS and be done with it.

[projectRDM]

On Hondas they use washers and longer bolts to push the trailing arm further away from the chassis, adding camber. Only possible on a solid axle, so on an Schassis he only way to add camber is to dial it in with adjustable arms. If you don't have those you can slot the upper arms where they bolt to the upright as well as the subframe mounting points, but that's a janky way of doing it.

[Atill93]

if i upgrade to some SPL RUCA's for example, do i need to upgrade my traction rods and toe arms too, or can i run my stock ones?

[trxrx7]

yes i would definitively buy the whole package, if you are making changes to the camber there will be changes in toe too, and the stock toe arms are non adjustable so your wheel will have some bad toe and you cant get rid of it. if your only planing on running a little camber the stock ruca's will do the job, before i went aftermarket i got my stock arms till -2.6 degrees and the toe will not be affected as much as if you would run stock toe arm and aftermarket camber arm. but if your planning to run more camber then that i would invest in some toe arms too, i hope that makes sense!

[Atill93]

yes i would definitively buy the whole package, if you are making changes to the camber there will be changes in toe too, and the stock toe arms are non adjustable so your wheel will have some bad toe and you cant get rid of it. if your only planing on running a little camber the stock ruca's will do the job, before i went aftermarket i got my stock arms till -2.6 degrees and the toe will not be affected as much as if you would run stock toe arm and aftermarket camber arm. but if your planning to run more camber then that i would invest in some toe arms too, i hope that makes sense!

awesome. great feedback, thank you. yeah i think im gonna mount my new wheels first and then i'll decide if i need to upgrade my suspension and run some more camber