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bullfrogg0 · 08-03-2011, 06:47 PM

Anybody know of a brake mc that has the lines on the opposite side that works on a s13?

RedSiBaron · 08-04-2011, 08:50 AM

What's the issue you are trying to solve?

I don't know what other MC will work, with comparable cylinder size.

blueshark123 · 08-04-2011, 09:16 AM

yea a jdm rhd mc from a r33 z32 s14 s13 r32.....

bullfrogg0 · 08-04-2011, 10:24 AM

Trying to get clearance for my 2jzge intake mani, that's the issue I'm trying to solve

RedSiBaron · 08-04-2011, 10:48 AM

Ahhhhh gotcha, that's good info to know. Would you be able to make custom lines to clear or is it literally right up against the mc? The reason im asking is because I MAY go 2jz

bullfrogg0 · 08-04-2011, 11:53 AM

It's not so much an issue with the turbo 2j's as the n/a like what's in mine. If I go to my shop tomorrow and remember, I'll get a pic of the lack of clearance.

RedSiBaron · 08-05-2011, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullfrogg0

It's not so much an issue with the turbo 2j's as the n/a like what's in mine. If I go to my shop tomorrow and remember, I'll get a pic of the lack of clearance.

Ahhh, I take it the runners on the manifold are longer, it being n/a...

Ya id be interested to see the clearance you're working with

bullfrogg0 · 08-05-2011, 03:12 PM

bullfrogg0 · 08-05-2011, 03:18 PM

The second pic u can see the lock washers I used to space the bmc to change the direction a little

RedSiBaron · 08-06-2011, 05:05 PM

Wow... ya that is super tight...guess its definitely time to get a rhd BMC

bullfrogg0 · 08-06-2011, 09:36 PM

Now question #2

Do I get a s13 rhd bmc or a rhd z32 bmc? I recently got a hold of some 26mm calipers and I'm wondering if when its time to go 5 lug with the bigger brakes will I need the z32 bmc or will the s13 bmc suffice? I've read arguments going both ways.

RedSiBaron · 08-06-2011, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bullfrogg0

Now question #2

Do I get a s13 rhd bmc or a rhd z32 bmc? I recently got a hold of some 26mm calipers and I'm wondering if when its time to go 5 lug with the bigger brakes will I need the z32 bmc or will the s13 bmc suffice? I've read arguments going both ways.

Im not sure of what the arguments are, but when going larger brake caliper piston volume, you typically need to push more volume on the bmc side to reduce spongy brake feel and increase brake resistance...harder the pedal feel, the easier it is to modulate brake pressure for finite control. The other thing that is important to pay attention to, is the proportioning valve, so that you are getting an even brake distribution. So if you are going z32 fronts and have the ability to run the same size piston rears as z32 (I don't know what swaps over, im a honda guy learning nissans) but if you can get the piston size close, then id say run a z32 prop valve as well.

I always try to match my front calipers to my bmc, then followup with matching rear brakes and prop valve.

Slammed180 · 08-07-2011, 10:13 AM

I tried using a LHD Z32 BMC on my 180SX. It was impossible to fit the lines, without them hitting the strut tower. Just a heads up....

RedSiBaron · 08-07-2011, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slammed180

I tried using a LHD Z32 BMC on my 180SX. It was impossible to fit the lines, without them hitting the strut tower. Just a heads up....

Oh wow, I didn't even notice that. Ya that looks even tighter.

If you go rhd, you may have to put in your line fittings then install the bmc

Or add stainless lines to add flexibility?

RedSiBaron · 08-07-2011, 10:46 AM

Just had a thought...you could use banjo bolts with a stainless line, and then stainless lines to the hard lines...

Only thing you need to do if you with the 2 banjo bolts, is you need to get the type that have safety wire holes and safety wire them so that they don't loosen through movement. That's why banjo fittings on brakes always have the two prongs to keep it from loosening.

xpinoyxmk · 08-07-2011, 10:48 AM

Need something like this:

www.ka-t.org :: View topic - Some progress on occasional weekends-new setup
here's an example of what i did about my brake lines from the master cylinder to ABS (gives alot more clearance from downpipe)...i got all this stuff from Summit:

(4) 10mm x 1.0 Banjo Bolts (EAR-997517ERL)
(4) 10mm banjo to -3AN adapters (EAR-997631ERL)
(2) -3AN to -3AN 36" steel braided lines (RUS-656100)

RedSiBaron · 08-07-2011, 10:54 AM

That's what I was saying ^^^

blueshark123 · 08-07-2011, 08:14 PM

Im not sure if u can run a manual s14 manual brake booster that may help you out since it doesnt stick out from the firewall much if u wanna try thatt i have one for 30 shipped

tac 1 · 08-07-2011, 08:57 PM

or get this http://www.google.com/imgres?q=http:...0&tx=104&ty=69

RedSiBaron · 08-07-2011, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tac 1

or get this http://www.google.com/imgres?q=http:...0&tx=104&ty=69

you know, if you dont want a brake booster.

bullfrogg0 · 08-07-2011, 10:09 PM

Glad this thing is finally getting some attention lol. Good info here so far

codyace · 08-08-2011, 11:00 PM

RHD setup, only way to really save room

silvertable58 · 08-22-2011, 08:43 PM

i think the other option is to use a s14 rhd one i think the fittings are located on the top sides .. i;m not one hundred percent shure but heres what it looks like

08-03-2011, 06:47 PM	#1
bullfrogg0 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baytown, Tx Age: 35 Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	brake master cylinder Anybody know of a brake mc that has the lines on the opposite side that works on a s13?

08-07-2011, 10:13 AM	#13
Slammed180 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Calgary, Canada Age: 34 Posts: 1,445 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I tried using a LHD Z32 BMC on my 180SX. It was impossible to fit the lines, without them hitting the strut tower. Just a heads up.... __________________ Blow me, bitches.

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08-04-2011, 08:50 AM	#2
RedSiBaron Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cincinnati/dayton/columbus OH Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What's the issue you are trying to solve? I don't know what other MC will work, with comparable cylinder size.

08-04-2011, 09:16 AM	#3
blueshark123 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 5,481 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	yea a jdm rhd mc from a r33 z32 s14 s13 r32.....

08-04-2011, 10:24 AM	#4
bullfrogg0 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baytown, Tx Age: 35 Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Trying to get clearance for my 2jzge intake mani, that's the issue I'm trying to solve

08-04-2011, 10:48 AM	#5
RedSiBaron Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cincinnati/dayton/columbus OH Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Ahhhhh gotcha, that's good info to know. Would you be able to make custom lines to clear or is it literally right up against the mc? The reason im asking is because I MAY go 2jz

08-04-2011, 11:53 AM	#6
bullfrogg0 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baytown, Tx Age: 35 Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	It's not so much an issue with the turbo 2j's as the n/a like what's in mine. If I go to my shop tomorrow and remember, I'll get a pic of the lack of clearance.

08-05-2011, 03:12 PM	#8
bullfrogg0 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baytown, Tx Age: 35 Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews

08-05-2011, 03:18 PM	#9
bullfrogg0 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baytown, Tx Age: 35 Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The second pic u can see the lock washers I used to space the bmc to change the direction a little

08-06-2011, 05:05 PM	#10
RedSiBaron Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cincinnati/dayton/columbus OH Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Wow... ya that is super tight...guess its definitely time to get a rhd BMC

08-06-2011, 09:36 PM	#11
bullfrogg0 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baytown, Tx Age: 35 Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Now question #2 Do I get a s13 rhd bmc or a rhd z32 bmc? I recently got a hold of some 26mm calipers and I'm wondering if when its time to go 5 lug with the bigger brakes will I need the z32 bmc or will the s13 bmc suffice? I've read arguments going both ways.

08-07-2011, 10:46 AM	#15
RedSiBaron Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cincinnati/dayton/columbus OH Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just had a thought...you could use banjo bolts with a stainless line, and then stainless lines to the hard lines... Only thing you need to do if you with the 2 banjo bolts, is you need to get the type that have safety wire holes and safety wire them so that they don't loosen through movement. That's why banjo fittings on brakes always have the two prongs to keep it from loosening.

08-07-2011, 10:48 AM	#16
xpinoyxmk Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 704 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Need something like this: www.ka-t.org :: View topic - Some progress on occasional weekends-new setup here's an example of what i did about my brake lines from the master cylinder to ABS (gives alot more clearance from downpipe)...i got all this stuff from Summit: (4) 10mm x 1.0 Banjo Bolts (EAR-997517ERL) (4) 10mm banjo to -3AN adapters (EAR-997631ERL) (2) -3AN to -3AN 36" steel braided lines (RUS-656100)

08-07-2011, 10:54 AM	#17
RedSiBaron Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: cincinnati/dayton/columbus OH Posts: 448 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	That's what I was saying ^^^

08-07-2011, 08:14 PM	#18
blueshark123 Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Jersey Posts: 5,481 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	Im not sure if u can run a manual s14 manual brake booster that may help you out since it doesnt stick out from the firewall much if u wanna try thatt i have one for 30 shipped

08-07-2011, 08:57 PM	#19
tac 1 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: los angeles Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	or get this http://www.google.com/imgres?q=http:...0&tx=104&ty=69

08-07-2011, 10:09 PM	#21
bullfrogg0 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baytown, Tx Age: 35 Posts: 201 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Glad this thing is finally getting some attention lol. Good info here so far

08-22-2011, 08:43 PM	#23
silvertable58 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: edmonton Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think the other option is to use a s14 rhd one i think the fittings are located on the top sides .. i;m not one hundred percent shure but heres what it looks like