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06-27-2012, 07:20 PM | #1 |
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so i am a US navy submariner. when i "volunteered" for sub duty, i had absolutely zero knowledge about subs, just as the majority of my sub brethren. a few random facts. -are there windows on submarines? NO you silly bastard. -how deep do you go? it's classified. seriously. but i can tell you that we "only" go 100s of feet. not 1000s. -all US subs are nuclear powered. with a diesel engine as a back up. the nuclear powerplant provides propulsion, electricity, lighting, etc -we make our own water and air any questions?
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thats a good question. sea sickness is rare. we usually cruise at a few hundred feet so the waves dont affect us as much. and if theres a storm overhead we usually go deeper. sometimes we have to come up "less than 100 feet" to transmit messages and such, and sometimes the seas are pretty bad then. ive gotten pretty miserable and nauseous at those times, but never threw up.
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06-27-2012, 07:52 PM | #4 |
How do you make your own air and water? Is it and endless supply as long as you can make it? How cramped are they? From movies and such it seems their not very big walking around in but again movies.
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06-27-2012, 10:07 PM | #6 |
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My uncle is an engineer that builds subs. Very fascinated machines. Although the aubs are pressurized, do you feel any increased pressure when diving at "low" depths?
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06-27-2012, 10:14 PM | #7 |
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air: we have oxygen generators, big tanks that store o2. we recirculate the same air over and over. we have co-h2 burners and similar systems to rid the unbreathable and byproduct gases. we have an air monitoring system to see exactly how much, h, o, co, co2, etc is in the air at that given moment.
for water we just purify seawater via boilers or reverse osmosis. room: everyone's opinion of a submarine is that it is packed like the small WW2 movies depict, but we've gotten bigger. we have ROUGHLY 2 types of subs, fast attacks, which are approx 360 feet, and 3 levels (i think.) and then ballistic missile subs, capable of housing 24 nuclear missiles, those are 560 feet, and have 4 levels. couples. yes this is true.
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06-27-2012, 10:18 PM | #8 |
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where is your uncle? im guessing CT, Maine, or WA perhaps? subs are pressurized to simulate regular atmosphere as best we can. once youre in & down, you wont feel any pressure change. sometimes we come up less than 100 feet and extend a "giant" snorkel until its above the surface and we equalize ship's pressure to sea. you can usually feel it. similar to when youre driving and you change elevation, your ears pop but thats about it.
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06-27-2012, 10:34 PM | #11 |
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food is an interesting subject. to make things easier, submarines have a 21 day menu, meaning they have breakfast lunch and dinner planned out for 21 days. at the end of the cycle, it starts over again. this makes ordering and managing the food easier. as you know, fresh food goes bad if not eaten, so the majority of our food is frozen or canned. but what really makes food taste good or not is the cooks and how much they love/hate their job & their talent. but for the most part the food is good. and we have the occasional lobster, and steak and such.
we dont have to worry about decompression sickness and the like because we are in a contained/regulated/pressured atmosphere that simulates regular surface atmosphere.
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the ballistic missile subs, which is the kind i was on, usually go out (and stay under) for 2-3 months at a time. they dont really pull into port because the nukes (missiles) make us a prime target for terrorists, as well as countries dont like nukes in their port.
the fast attack guys stay out to sea longer (stay away from home port longer) but they get to pull into ports all over the world.
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they started integrating female officers onto the ballistic missiles subs because they can better support females since theyre a bigger ship. they get a seperate female head and bunkroom. not every ballistic sub has females yes, because the whole 'females on subs' is still in its testing/try out phase. i did 5 years on a boat and now im in shore duty, but i rotate back to a boat at the end of this year. so i still havent had to 'deal with' females on a sub yet.
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06-27-2012, 11:04 PM | #16 |
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3 months living under the sea, daammn, anyone ever freaks out/gets claustrophobic down there?
And sucks about the windows, i though u would be able to see fish and weird creatures under there... |
06-27-2012, 11:10 PM | #17 |
^^This. Would be cool as in your down there so long atleast let me see some cool stuff. Crazy shark feeding frenzy, something! That was my next question, since the pressure and such and claustrophobia kick in, can your body feel that your below the sea? And how do yall get extracted from the sub if you cant pull into a port?
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06-27-2012, 11:18 PM | #18 |
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freak outs and claustrophobia are few and far between. sub duty is volunteer only, so they cant MAKE you do it. there are a lot of 'filters' and screening processes that get rid of the majority of people who cant hack it. and the few that make it through are allowed to leave. if someone freaked out at sea we would have to surface close to shore and have a boat come out to take them off and bring em to shore.
EVERYONE thinks theres gonna be windows. but at that depth, you couldnt see anything anyways. and exterior lights arent an option because we are supposed to remain undetected almost at all times. we are sea ninjas! plus the windows might put us at a tactical disadvantage, they would be the 'weak point' of the sub.
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06-27-2012, 11:22 PM | #19 |
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if we were to 'sink'.... as long as we dont sink til 'crush depth' (the depth at which the sub would implode) we would be able to be rescued. they would do it by sending out a diving bell to extract the crew in groups.
they would manually send this thing down to us from the surface, it would mate to our hatch, and groups of guys can go in there. it is also pressurized to regular atmosphere so that again you dont succumb to decompression sickness etc
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06-27-2012, 11:24 PM | #20 |
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oh and if we're shallow enough we have these steinke hoods... picture a life jacket with a hood but instead of regular buoyant shit its filled with breathable air. you can ascend to the surface from the sub with those on. it would save you but you would suffer from the bends
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06-27-2012, 11:25 PM | #21 |
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this is the new version of the steinke hood, i forgot that it had come out.
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06-28-2012, 12:24 AM | #23 |
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typical elementary school humor. people will laugh, etc. the flatulence itself gets sucked into the fan room and then the methane gets burned/converted back into regular breathing air.
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06-28-2012, 12:37 AM | #25 |
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dope/interesting thread man,3-4 levels i thought only two, pretty cool
question 1 what happens if they find out you snitched about how deep you go? jail or something and question 2 how fast are you guys usually going in these thing? |
06-28-2012, 12:47 AM | #26 |
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jail time is a possible outcome for divulging those secrets. they make you sign a bunch of papers saying you wont give up/out classified information. but i can tell you that a lot of the info can be found online or even in the book 'submarines for dummies' freedom of information act or some shit.
top speed is classifed as well but i can say we can go faster than 25 knots submerged. pretty fast for something so big.
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06-28-2012, 01:15 AM | #27 |
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So everything is mapped out for you guys so you don't run into anything or is it just sonar? Ever plow into a whale or other large sea creature? Can you see stuff like that on the sonar?
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06-28-2012, 09:38 AM | #29 |
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mostly everything is mapped out for us, yes. however, there was an incident in 04 when one of our subs ran into an underwater mountain. the charts/maps they were using were really old/not updated. one of the crew members died. which is a sad day in the sub community because the 'death rate' is pretty much non existant. as for whales and all that, i think they probably keep their distance but it can happen. sonar does hear sea creatures, theyre called biologics. sometimes the sonar mean hear schools of whales and dolphins.
human waste, food from the garbage disposal, and grey water (From sinks/showers) is all stored in tanks until the tanks are close to full and then we pump it out to sea. we cant pump within a certain distance of land however, so beach goers dont have to swim in it. marine life end up eating all the waste so it isnt that bad.
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06-28-2012, 10:39 AM | #30 |
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My uncle lives in Pennsylvania, but is flown around the world doing work. He designs the engines and other aspects he apparently is not allowed to talk about.
Question..... Each section of the sub is made with bulkheads that could hold water , in case of flooding. If a sections was to flood out. Do each section have ways to drain the water ? Best way to describe what I'm asking... The movie league of extraordinary gentlemen: when cpt nemos ship was flooding and Mr Hyde came down to purge the water from the sub. |
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