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FinSX · 01-30-2006, 03:59 PM

searched, found nothing

Just heard about this new suspension company called Stance (www.stancesus.com). Anyone using them? I'm interested if those are any good, as they are pretty cheap. What are they like compared to more famed coilovers, such as Tein or Tanabe? And would someone know the country where they manufacture those? (guessing U.S).

I would get Cusco's or Kei Office's coilovers, but can't afford them. (as I don't want to get the cheapest ones)

thanks to all in advance.

Irukandji · 01-30-2006, 04:06 PM

never heard of them.

if you don't want to spend much you can go for Megans or KTS.

FinSX · 01-30-2006, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n1sm0r

never heard of them.

if you don't want to spend much you can go for Megans or KTS.

No I don't want those. I'm looking for middle class coilovers, like Tein Flex's. Everybody praises Tein, but I'm not so sure if they're up to the hype. But Kei Office would be a excellent choice for sure, just a bit pricier.

***S14DB*** · 01-30-2006, 04:42 PM

Looks like some Taiwanese re-brands. Can't say that they provide a great deal of info on their site...

i8yourfwd · 01-30-2006, 04:52 PM

Just go with KTS's somebody said that Tein Flex's aren't even that good (said on zilvia somewhere I think)

This post should help alot:http://www.zilvia.net/f/showpost.php...2&postcount=11

dori2 s13coupe · 01-30-2006, 05:06 PM

different color KTS coilovers

*DJPimpFlex* · 01-30-2006, 05:17 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again, KTS for the win!

A Spec Products · 01-30-2006, 05:21 PM

haha i knoooow who stance is

but im not giving out the secret

***S14DB*** · 01-30-2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Spec Products

haha i knoooow who stance is

but im not giving out the secret

Then I will. It's Touge Factory.

A Spec Products · 01-30-2006, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Then I will. It's Touge Factory.

Hahah, yeah it was pretty obvious.

I recognized their addy.

bcrume · 01-30-2006, 06:46 PM

Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype.

zeal/endless - the best there is...
kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them
Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better.
JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great.
kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free.

if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

Aldus · 01-30-2006, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrume

Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype.

zeal/endless - the best there is...
kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them
Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better.
JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great.
kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free.

if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

Sorry, but ksport and megan and nowhere near KTS.

Ian · 01-30-2006, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrume

Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype.

zeal/endless - the best there is...
kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them
Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better.
JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great.
kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free.

if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

Have you used any of these?

I know none of them are top notch brands...but I can vouch and say that Megan Racing coilovers are of a different breed than K-Sport and D2. Also, KTS is in a completely different realm of quality than K-Sport/D2.

I've compared Megan Racing to Silk Road almost side by side, I actually prefer Megan Racing. (on the track...the Silk Road have a smoother ride on the highway)

SoSideways · 01-30-2006, 09:31 PM

Even though Stance is just Touge Factory, it doesn't mean they made the stuff.

Kinda reminds me of the old days of Importfan = GP Sports NA.

Importfan didn't make any of the GP Sports parts, but they were repping them here in the states, so I'm only guessing that Stance is just being repped by TF here in the states.

So I'm guessing Dave at TF have tried these and actually deemed these worthy to sell with his business huh? Then these can't be any worse than Megan Racing or D-Drugs.....

[shrug]

KiDyNomiTe · 01-30-2006, 09:32 PM

I will post a review when I drive on them

Irukandji · 01-30-2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrume

Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype.

zeal/endless - the best there is...
kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them
Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better.
JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great.
kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free.

if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

so have you really driven on these or are you just regurgitating what some actual track drivers have said?

because I can feel some deja vu...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=tein+jic+zeal
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=tein+jic+zeal

sorry to be offtopic:hammer:

bcrume · 01-30-2006, 09:35 PM

even if you think they are better than megan and ksport, I still put them in the shit column. You can argue that for the money they are good but I would't waste money on them. I see alot of people on this forum praise them but thats only because they can't afford other stuff or haven't had the chance to experience better suspension systems.

SoSideways · 01-30-2006, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiDyNomiTe

I will post a review when I drive on them

Oh snap now it all makes sense.... so THESE were the top secret coilovers that you kinda told everyone about in the "how low can you go" thread that you wouldn't talk about

You sneaky you... heh

Yeah dude, seriously, let us know how these are, as I am quite interested in these...

KiDyNomiTe · 01-30-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mainevent212

I've compared Megan Racing to Silk Road almost side by side, I actually prefer Megan Racing. (on the track...the Silk Road have a smoother ride on the highway)

I was with dave comparing stance to megan racing, and also compared my silk roads to stance, stance is definately the beefiest and well put together, although I will miss the lower camber bolt...

bcrume · 01-30-2006, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n1sm0r

so have you really driven on these or are you just regurgitating what some actual track drivers have said?

because I can feel some deja vu...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=tein+jic+zeal
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...=tein+jic+zeal

sorry to be offtopic:hammer:

I'm speaking of personal experiance, I own a set of zeal function x on my s13 and a set of function v6's on my 350z.

I have personally driven multiple zeal setups, gp sports something 8, jic flta2, kts, megan, ksports, spring/shock setups and many other coilovers on s13's my advice is from personal experiance. Most people don't know what good is because they haven't had the oportunity.

I wasn't trying to start an argument. kts still sucks

drift into a curb · 01-31-2006, 12:36 AM

^^ watch out, zeal master.

Juujai · 01-31-2006, 01:11 AM

elaborate why kts sucks? uncomfortable, underdampened? shitty build quality? i don't think so.

i have cusco zero-2r and have tried zeal super function, zeal b6, kei office xt, megan, kts and some others i can't rememeber at the moment the kts are not shit.

"i heard kei office is good" lol i hear good things about most coilovers on forums... what difference does that make... bs oh yeah and kei office is teh suck right now. no rebuilds/shock replacements at all. they're wacked out right now. i wouldn't recommend them unless you plan to dump em every few years.

i'd recommend kts over any of the other coilovers in the price range. cheap, dampens good, gets LOW, comfortable/harsh when you want it to be.

theres like a billion choices in the 2k range most are kick ass anyway no need for recommendations there. apexi, cusco, zeal, swift, ikeya blah blah all good stuff no doubt. the 4-5k+ stuff is yeah no need to explain either.

i8yourfwd · 01-31-2006, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juujai

elaborate why kts sucks? uncomfortable, underdampened? shitty build quality? i don't think so.

i have cusco zero-2r and have tried zeal super function, zeal b6, kei office xt, megan, kts and some others i can't rememeber at the moment the kts are not shit.

"i heard kei office is good" lol i hear good things about most coilovers on forums... what difference does that make... bs oh yeah and kei office is teh suck right now. no rebuilds/shock replacements at all. they're wacked out right now. i wouldn't recommend them unless you plan to dump em every few years.

i'd recommend kts over any of the other coilovers in the price range. cheap, dampens good, gets LOW, comfortable/harsh when you want it to be.

theres like a billion choices in the 2k range most are kick ass anyway no need for recommendations there. apexi, cusco, zeal, swift, ikeya blah blah all good stuff no doubt. the 4-5k+ stuff is yeah no need to explain either.

KTS sucks cause he says they suck. He has Zeals and is suspension mastar.:ghey:

/sarcasm

FinSX · 01-31-2006, 10:35 AM

who sells GP Sports GR-6's? They have also released Gp Sports G Master. I think they are pretty new too. Opinions on them? Silk Road is a bit of a mystery brand to me, never really seen any japanese tuner using them. Pretty popular in the States I guess? Is it an U.S. Brand or Japanese?

I think I'm leaning towards GP Sports or Tanabe Sustec Pro S-S at the moment. What's the advantage of the helper spring that Sus Pro S-S is using, compared to a no helper spring model, S-S II?

krustindumm · 01-31-2006, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiDyNomiTe

I was with dave comparing stance to megan racing, and also compared my silk roads to stance, stance is definately the beefiest and well put together, although I will miss the lower camber bolt...

For the camber bolts, try any autoparts store. I went to o'really's $25/side (~$50 total). They have varying ranges, I got the ones that go up to 2.5* of adjustment.

Juujai · 01-31-2006, 11:31 AM

silkroad is made by section which is pretty popular in japan i believe. section makes coilovers for a lot of different companies. gp sports can be bought at many distributors i can't remember the main one but autornd sells gp stuff.

the main things to look for aside from quality/build/price "feature wise" are dual height adjustable, front camber plates and dampening adjustability. the low end tanabes don't have all the functions like the dd/new seven. low end coilovers doesn't mean it isn't good either. just because it's a lower model doesn't mean it's crap. coilovers are basically meant for people that want to get low. if you're looking into the lower end tanabes then koni yellow shocks would be a good choice over that.

if you have a low dollar budget i'd recommend kts coilovers, tanabe sway bars and like some 50 dollar ebay subframe collars over any choice in it's price range.

bcrume · 01-31-2006, 02:31 PM

subframe collars help so much and are really cheap, it should be your first mod. Wait on buying sway bars, they should be the last suspension peice you buy. I've had 3 different types of swaybars on my s13 and ended up liking the stock ones best. the stiffer the sway bar, the less the suspension can travel independently. It kind of defeats the purpose of getting good shocks. The tanabe 7's, kts and other mid to lower end shocks are needle valved, they may be good for a hot lap but it will get hot and become unpredictable. There are some pro's using dd's but they have plenty of time to let the car cool down between runs.

SoSideways · 01-31-2006, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrume

subframe collars help so much and are really cheap, it should be your first mod. Wait on buying sway bars, they should be the last suspension peice you buy. I've had 3 different types of swaybars on my s13 and ended up liking the stock ones best. the stiffer the sway bar, the less the suspension can travel independently. It kind of defeats the purpose of getting good shocks. The tanabe 7's, kts and other mid to lower end shocks are needle valved, they may be good for a hot lap but it will get hot and become unpredictable. There are some pro's using dd's but they have plenty of time to let the car cool down between runs.

Um, I thought the Tanabe Sevens had some sort of "innovative" slider valve, and not needle valve?

phreze · 01-31-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcrume

The tanabe 7's, kts and other mid to lower end shocks are needle valved, they may be good for a hot lap but it will get hot and become unpredictable. There are some pro's using dd's but they have plenty of time to let the car cool down between runs.

So the $1800 tanabe 7's are mid to lower end? and stock sway bars are better then aftermarket? Can I have a pound of what this dude is smoking?

SoSideways · 01-31-2006, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phreze

So the $1800 tanabe 7's are mid to lower end? and stock sway bars are better then aftermarket? Can I have a pound of what this dude is smoking?

He might not be smoking it but directly injected into the blood stream...

01-30-2006, 03:59 PM	#1
FinSX Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stance Coilovers searched, found nothing Just heard about this new suspension company called Stance (www.stancesus.com). Anyone using them? I'm interested if those are any good, as they are pretty cheap. What are they like compared to more famed coilovers, such as Tein or Tanabe? And would someone know the country where they manufacture those? (guessing U.S). I would get Cusco's or Kei Office's coilovers, but can't afford them. (as I don't want to get the cheapest ones) thanks to all in advance.

01-30-2006, 04:42 PM	#4
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Looks like some Taiwanese re-brands. Can't say that they provide a great deal of info on their site... __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

01-30-2006, 05:06 PM	#6
dori2 s13coupe Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cerritos, CA Age: 35 Posts: 504 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	different color KTS coilovers __________________ Signature Not Available

01-30-2006, 05:17 PM	#7
DJPimpFlex Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 35 Posts: 6,151 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	I've said it before and I'll say it again, KTS for the win! __________________

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01-30-2006, 04:06 PM	#2
Irukandji Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Compton Posts: 4,268 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	never heard of them. if you don't want to spend much you can go for Megans or KTS.

01-30-2006, 06:46 PM	#11
bcrume Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tein's suck, they are really bad and it's all hype. zeal/endless - the best there is... kei office - heard good things but haven't driven with them Gp Sports - what I would get if I couldn't afford something better. JIC - They perform well but will break and the ride isn't great. kts/megan/ksport - all are shit, wouldn't put on my car if they were free. if you can't afford kei office then you can't afford zeal, so I would look into gp sports or silk road. If you decide to go with gp sports then try to find a shop that has them in stock because I guarantee that if you order it, it will take longer than they say.

01-30-2006, 09:31 PM	#14
SoSideways Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 你老母 Posts: 4,371 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Even though Stance is just Touge Factory, it doesn't mean they made the stuff. Kinda reminds me of the old days of Importfan = GP Sports NA. Importfan didn't make any of the GP Sports parts, but they were repping them here in the states, so I'm only guessing that Stance is just being repped by TF here in the states. So I'm guessing Dave at TF have tried these and actually deemed these worthy to sell with his business huh? Then these can't be any worse than Megan Racing or D-Drugs..... [shrug]

01-30-2006, 09:32 PM	#15
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 35 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I will post a review when I drive on them __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

01-30-2006, 09:35 PM	#17
bcrume Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	even if you think they are better than megan and ksport, I still put them in the shit column. You can argue that for the money they are good but I would't waste money on them. I see alot of people on this forum praise them but thats only because they can't afford other stuff or haven't had the chance to experience better suspension systems.

01-31-2006, 12:36 AM	#21
drift into a curb Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 2,870 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	^^ watch out, zeal master. __________________ Go big or go home!

01-31-2006, 01:11 AM	#22
Juujai Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rosemead, California Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	elaborate why kts sucks? uncomfortable, underdampened? shitty build quality? i don't think so. i have cusco zero-2r and have tried zeal super function, zeal b6, kei office xt, megan, kts and some others i can't rememeber at the moment the kts are not shit. "i heard kei office is good" lol i hear good things about most coilovers on forums... what difference does that make... bs oh yeah and kei office is teh suck right now. no rebuilds/shock replacements at all. they're wacked out right now. i wouldn't recommend them unless you plan to dump em every few years. i'd recommend kts over any of the other coilovers in the price range. cheap, dampens good, gets LOW, comfortable/harsh when you want it to be. theres like a billion choices in the 2k range most are kick ass anyway no need for recommendations there. apexi, cusco, zeal, swift, ikeya blah blah all good stuff no doubt. the 4-5k+ stuff is yeah no need to explain either.

01-31-2006, 10:35 AM	#24
FinSX Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	who sells GP Sports GR-6's? They have also released Gp Sports G Master. I think they are pretty new too. Opinions on them? Silk Road is a bit of a mystery brand to me, never really seen any japanese tuner using them. Pretty popular in the States I guess? Is it an U.S. Brand or Japanese? I think I'm leaning towards GP Sports or Tanabe Sustec Pro S-S at the moment. What's the advantage of the helper spring that Sus Pro S-S is using, compared to a no helper spring model, S-S II?

01-31-2006, 11:31 AM	#26
Juujai Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rosemead, California Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	silkroad is made by section which is pretty popular in japan i believe. section makes coilovers for a lot of different companies. gp sports can be bought at many distributors i can't remember the main one but autornd sells gp stuff. the main things to look for aside from quality/build/price "feature wise" are dual height adjustable, front camber plates and dampening adjustability. the low end tanabes don't have all the functions like the dd/new seven. low end coilovers doesn't mean it isn't good either. just because it's a lower model doesn't mean it's crap. coilovers are basically meant for people that want to get low. if you're looking into the lower end tanabes then koni yellow shocks would be a good choice over that. if you have a low dollar budget i'd recommend kts coilovers, tanabe sway bars and like some 50 dollar ebay subframe collars over any choice in it's price range.

01-31-2006, 02:31 PM	#27
bcrume Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 177 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	subframe collars help so much and are really cheap, it should be your first mod. Wait on buying sway bars, they should be the last suspension peice you buy. I've had 3 different types of swaybars on my s13 and ended up liking the stock ones best. the stiffer the sway bar, the less the suspension can travel independently. It kind of defeats the purpose of getting good shocks. The tanabe 7's, kts and other mid to lower end shocks are needle valved, they may be good for a hot lap but it will get hot and become unpredictable. There are some pro's using dd's but they have plenty of time to let the car cool down between runs.

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