Tein super drifts and 10/8 spring rates in general - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

morpheus8486 · 06-12-2005, 02:54 PM

I've spent like the last day searching a bunch of different forums and I can't find anything about what people think of tein super drift coilovers other than their initial impressions. Can anyone who has these post something about how they perform? And if nothing else can someone tell me how a 10/8 springrate feels on the street? I was planning on buying some kts coils but the other day I was at a buddy's shop and he told me he could probably get me a good deal on a set of teins or tanabe's so now I gotta re-evaluate all my previous plans. Thanks.

KiDyNomiTe · 06-12-2005, 02:57 PM

People I have talked to said they love em, but you have to consider most people have only ridden on one type of coilovers and it will feel amazing compared to stock. On the stiffness, 10/8 isnt too bad, you'll get used to it.

Drunk Bastard · 06-12-2005, 03:31 PM

I have the HE's and I want to get the SD's. The He spring rates are 8/6 and are too soft for me, they are fine for the street but I prefer something harder for the track.

m0rex · 06-12-2005, 09:34 PM

Has anyone tried them and have had something weaker than these?

S14DriftR · 06-12-2005, 09:39 PM

Just saw my first set yesterday, they were installed on a S14. Initial impressions is that the ride is smoother than HE's on S13's. The SD had helper springs in the back tho.........

If you can get a good deal on tanabe products you should get the DD's, I would choose them over the superdrifts for sure.

DoriftoSlut · 06-12-2005, 10:49 PM

i have Tanabe DD on my s14. 10/8 very comfy its made so well, much better then my 8/6 HEs i had on the 13..

the HEs were much stiffer but bouncy stiff
the DDs are smooth but still firm

sideview_180sx · 06-12-2005, 11:00 PM

stiffer spring rates aon't make super huge gains if valving isn't adjusted in relation to it. sometimes you can have a lower spring rate, and have awesome valving to make up for it. typically with my background in cars (NASA pro racing, Speed TC, 125cc karts) having the ability to adjust bound and rebound can make up for a softer sping so you don't have to run the japanese super high spring rates. I have heard if you jump to 12/10 you need to reweld the shock towers or else separating the glue due to stiffness, Lindsay correct me if im wrong, I saw it in some DT mags a long while ago.

hey hold up is that lindsay or aaron talking. if its lindsay when did you get an s14??

BOMEX180 · 06-12-2005, 11:32 PM

I just switched to SD from HE"s. I havent had the chance to run it yet because I dont have any seats.

sdtouge · 06-13-2005, 01:02 AM

the super drifts are stiffer springs on the same shocks as the flexs

Sil Beer S13 · 06-13-2005, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoriftoSlut

i have Tanabe DD on my s14. 10/8 very comfy its made so well, much better then my 8/6 HEs i had on the 13..

the HEs were much stiffer but bouncy stiff
the DDs are smooth but still firm

Aaron are you using lindseys name? haha

Ya i loved my super drifts 10/8 is a little getting used to but fun.

Kinda bouncey.

I wants DD so MUCH!!! but i couldnt wait.

beater_240sx · 06-13-2005, 06:02 AM

I have them and I love them, They make the car really nice to drive, make the car really handle very nice. Stiff, I still need to adjust them to my liking but they are really nice, the rears are hoppy though, Like I said I havent fully adjusted them quite yet though... I would go for them.

Dousan_PG · 06-13-2005, 11:08 AM

yeah i was using lindsays computer
working over there test fitting and make the new aero fit perfect..well 'perfect' as you can get on a fucked up body car haha..

yeah lindsy still has the s13 coupe..for now..

levi ride in my car at the track, 10/8 is so comfy on DDs..not stiff at all like bouncy or harsh stiff. its very smooth. on 1 setting of the damper..fuck...so smooth. on 4...call your chiropracter (yes i know, i cant spell)

ZK · 06-13-2005, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdtouge

the super drifts are stiffer springs on the same shocks as the flexs

I doubt they'd do that. The Flex shocks are not designed for that high a spring rate.

Dousan_PG · 06-13-2005, 12:14 PM

same shock body
different valving and what not
its what inside that matters ,and thats what was changed

JR loves em.
then again he helped get the designed..

NI_YON_Zenki · 06-13-2005, 04:28 PM

I am considering changing over these Progressive springs to linear, This sounds quite interesting considering the market push that was given to the HKS systems over the years. of which I have. The rates I have on the street now is 8/5, that isn't to bad, but Imma tall kat.Moving over to the 10/8 system, I have no choice but to adjust the valving and damper settings to compensate my head at higher speeds here in the River, if they are opposite what Aaron's opinion comes in as.

Var · 06-13-2005, 05:34 PM

i was looking at the super drift myself. The rates for 240 are 10/8 and FC are 8/6. We are lucky to have such a huge selection of coils at our disposal.

sideview_180sx · 06-14-2005, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NI_YON_Zenki

I am considering changing over these Progressive springs to linear, This sounds quite interesting considering the market push that was given to the HKS systems over the years. of which I have. The rates I have on the street now is 8/5, that isn't to bad, but Imma tall kat.Moving over to the 10/8 system, I have no choice but to adjust the valving and damper settings to compensate my head at higher speeds here in the River, if they are opposite what Aaron's opinion comes in as.

Skip............WTF are you talking about.......sound like someone trying to compose something from a screen play. just be forward about it dammit. I to think to freaking hard when you write things like this.

Hehe........I just may not go DDs instead, if this one ricer kid buys my HEs for a grand(ill install them myself) Imma pick up a set of N1 Pros (previous model) in mint condition.

*revat619* · 06-15-2005, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sideview_180sx

Skip............WTF are you talking about.......sound like someone trying to compose something from a screen play. just be forward about it dammit. I to think to freaking hard when you write things like this.

Hehe........I just may not go DDs instead, if this one ricer kid buys my HEs for a grand(ill install them myself) Imma pick up a set of N1 Pros (previous model) in mint condition.

Dude, I was thinking the EXACT same thing! Skip, what the hell are you saying?!?! hahahaha

To stay on topic - i've heard nothing but good things about the super drifts. However, after i get all my other crap, when i upgrade to a 10/8 set up i'll be going with tanabe DD's. Reason for the upgrade - HE's are annoying and bouncy. They get the job done on the track, but the valving sucks.

r-b-x · 06-16-2005, 03:10 AM

i've been looking into these, but my target use is more towards autox and track rather than drift. what do you more knowledgeable people have to say about this setup for grip? similarly thoughts tanabe dd's for grip, please.

for tein, between this and the similar looking flex, the differences are in the stock spring rates and the valving. i've also tossed around the idea of exchanging the stock springs for something softer, since that seemed to be working well for scc's silvia grip car. but i'm not sure which is the better starting point but i'm guessing the sd since it's newer and so has more data going into its development.

NI_YON_Zenki · 06-16-2005, 04:30 PM

Basically. I was comparing the super drift spring rates to the HKS rates I have currently. I hit my head on the inner top portion of the car when driving over bumpy roads, so If I were to change over to 10/8 linear springs, would it be a wise inverstment for me, as far as driving on the streets. .. .and so I see, the DD's are the prefrence here at zilvia, due to valving complications from the Tein system.

Dousan_PG · 06-16-2005, 04:34 PM

Zeal Super Function are badass too, so is the price tag unfortunately though. ouch. i would prefer those over DDs after drifting on both but DDs were much nicer on the wallet..at least at the time they were..

DDs are very streetable on the softer settings.

sideview_180sx · 06-17-2005, 02:31 AM

you hit your head because you are too damn tall get a freaking bucket with low rails to give you better head clearance. Jay and I want to switch over because we are used to the HEs stlye of handling and want something different. mainly better bound characteristics for me, HEs feel fine on rebound, but suck ass arscenic donkey balls on bound. IMO. besides, don't drive on super bumpy roads going as fast as you drive.

sideview_180sx · 06-17-2005, 02:32 AM

you hit your head because you are too damn tall get a freaking bucket with low rails to give you better head clearance. Jay and I want to switch over because we are used to the HEs stlye of handling and want something different. mainly better bound characteristics for me, HEs feel fine on rebound, but suck ass arscenic donkey balls on bound. IMO. besides, don't drive on super bumpy roads going as fast as you drive.hehe

06-12-2005, 02:54 PM	#1
morpheus8486 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ND Age: 34 Posts: 274 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tein super drifts and 10/8 spring rates in general I've spent like the last day searching a bunch of different forums and I can't find anything about what people think of tein super drift coilovers other than their initial impressions. Can anyone who has these post something about how they perform? And if nothing else can someone tell me how a 10/8 springrate feels on the street? I was planning on buying some kts coils but the other day I was at a buddy's shop and he told me he could probably get me a good deal on a set of teins or tanabe's so now I gotta re-evaluate all my previous plans. Thanks. __________________ '91 240sx Fastback SuperHicas My Car Domain Page

06-12-2005, 02:57 PM	#2
KiDyNomiTe Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chicago Age: 35 Posts: 6,296 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: KiDyNomiTe Feedback Score: 0 reviews	People I have talked to said they love em, but you have to consider most people have only ridden on one type of coilovers and it will feel amazing compared to stock. On the stiffness, 10/8 isnt too bad, you'll get used to it. __________________ PROCEED Grip Gambler

06-12-2005, 09:39 PM	#5
S14DriftR Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oxnard Age: 37 Posts: 604 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just saw my first set yesterday, they were installed on a S14. Initial impressions is that the ride is smoother than HE's on S13's. The SD had helper springs in the back tho......... If you can get a good deal on tanabe products you should get the DD's, I would choose them over the superdrifts for sure. __________________

06-12-2005, 10:49 PM	#6
DoriftoSlut Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal and Hawaii Age: 37 Posts: 1,986 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have Tanabe DD on my s14. 10/8 very comfy its made so well, much better then my 8/6 HEs i had on the 13.. the HEs were much stiffer but bouncy stiff the DDs are smooth but still firm __________________ Death Before Dishonor. www.pinkgodzira.com www.driftalliance.com

06-12-2005, 11:00 PM	#7
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	stiffer spring rates aon't make super huge gains if valving isn't adjusted in relation to it. sometimes you can have a lower spring rate, and have awesome valving to make up for it. typically with my background in cars (NASA pro racing, Speed TC, 125cc karts) having the ability to adjust bound and rebound can make up for a softer sping so you don't have to run the japanese super high spring rates. I have heard if you jump to 12/10 you need to reweld the shock towers or else separating the glue due to stiffness, Lindsay correct me if im wrong, I saw it in some DT mags a long while ago. hey hold up is that lindsay or aaron talking. if its lindsay when did you get an s14?? __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

06-12-2005, 03:31 PM	#3
Drunk Bastard Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,405 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I have the HE's and I want to get the SD's. The He spring rates are 8/6 and are too soft for me, they are fine for the street but I prefer something harder for the track.

06-12-2005, 09:34 PM	#4
m0rex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,070 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Has anyone tried them and have had something weaker than these?

06-12-2005, 11:32 PM	#8
BOMEX180 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Loma Linda, CA Posts: 402 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just switched to SD from HE"s. I havent had the chance to run it yet because I dont have any seats. __________________

06-13-2005, 01:02 AM	#9
sdtouge BANNED Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 479 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the super drifts are stiffer springs on the same shocks as the flexs

06-13-2005, 06:02 AM	#11
beater_240sx Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have them and I love them, They make the car really nice to drive, make the car really handle very nice. Stiff, I still need to adjust them to my liking but they are really nice, the rears are hoppy though, Like I said I havent fully adjusted them quite yet though... I would go for them. __________________ image exceeds forum limits -Moderation

06-13-2005, 11:08 AM	#12
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	yeah i was using lindsays computer working over there test fitting and make the new aero fit perfect..well 'perfect' as you can get on a fucked up body car haha.. yeah lindsy still has the s13 coupe..for now.. levi ride in my car at the track, 10/8 is so comfy on DDs..not stiff at all like bouncy or harsh stiff. its very smooth. on 1 setting of the damper..fuck...so smooth. on 4...call your chiropracter (yes i know, i cant spell) __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-13-2005, 12:14 PM	#14
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	same shock body different valving and what not its what inside that matters ,and thats what was changed JR loves em. then again he helped get the designed.. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-13-2005, 04:28 PM	#15
NI_YON_Zenki Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 885 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I am considering changing over these Progressive springs to linear, This sounds quite interesting considering the market push that was given to the HKS systems over the years. of which I have. The rates I have on the street now is 8/5, that isn't to bad, but Imma tall kat.Moving over to the 10/8 system, I have no choice but to adjust the valving and damper settings to compensate my head at higher speeds here in the River, if they are opposite what Aaron's opinion comes in as. __________________ "GHOST"

06-13-2005, 05:34 PM	#16
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 39 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was looking at the super drift myself. The rates for 240 are 10/8 and FC are 8/6. We are lucky to have such a huge selection of coils at our disposal. __________________ Hi

06-16-2005, 03:10 AM	#19
r-b-x Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: vancouver Posts: 118 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i've been looking into these, but my target use is more towards autox and track rather than drift. what do you more knowledgeable people have to say about this setup for grip? similarly thoughts tanabe dd's for grip, please. for tein, between this and the similar looking flex, the differences are in the stock spring rates and the valving. i've also tossed around the idea of exchanging the stock springs for something softer, since that seemed to be working well for scc's silvia grip car. but i'm not sure which is the better starting point but i'm guessing the sd since it's newer and so has more data going into its development.

06-16-2005, 04:30 PM	#20
NI_YON_Zenki Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 885 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Basically. I was comparing the super drift spring rates to the HKS rates I have currently. I hit my head on the inner top portion of the car when driving over bumpy roads, so If I were to change over to 10/8 linear springs, would it be a wise inverstment for me, as far as driving on the streets. .. .and so I see, the DD's are the prefrence here at zilvia, due to valving complications from the Tein system. __________________ "GHOST"

06-16-2005, 04:34 PM	#21
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Zeal Super Function are badass too, so is the price tag unfortunately though. ouch. i would prefer those over DDs after drifting on both but DDs were much nicer on the wallet..at least at the time they were.. DDs are very streetable on the softer settings. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

06-17-2005, 02:31 AM	#22
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you hit your head because you are too damn tall get a freaking bucket with low rails to give you better head clearance. Jay and I want to switch over because we are used to the HEs stlye of handling and want something different. mainly better bound characteristics for me, HEs feel fine on rebound, but suck ass arscenic donkey balls on bound. IMO. besides, don't drive on super bumpy roads going as fast as you drive. __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

06-17-2005, 02:32 AM	#23
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you hit your head because you are too damn tall get a freaking bucket with low rails to give you better head clearance. Jay and I want to switch over because we are used to the HEs stlye of handling and want something different. mainly better bound characteristics for me, HEs feel fine on rebound, but suck ass arscenic donkey balls on bound. IMO. besides, don't drive on super bumpy roads going as fast as you drive.hehe __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

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