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Old 12-23-2009, 08:17 PM   #31
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Why not make them both take the blood test 48 hours prior?
The point of "Olympic drug testing" is that one can be tested LITERALLY any time, as in interrupted even while sleeping or even fucking and made to give a sample immediately for testing. No warning, none of that "show up at 4:12pm on Wednesday and pee in a cup" shit, it is be ready to prove your shit now, and you BETTER not be dirty or you're DQ'd.
Both fighters would be subject to this, not just Manny. The argument here is that Floyd has so little to hide that he will concede to it, and that if Manny has nothing to hide then he should to. Being a boxing fan who does not particularly care for either fighter personally, I am all for this solution, given presented arguments.
The proposal is to do that anywhere up to within 48 hours of the fight, and the post fight draw of blood is to test for disease, the piss test is for drugs. The contention is that the more important or impactful drugs are not detected via urine, necessitating a blood test for drugs.
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The point of "Olympic drug testing" is that one can be tested LITERALLY any time, as in interrupted even while sleeping or even fucking and made to give a sample immediately for testing. No warning, none of that "show up at 4:12pm on Wednesday and pee in a cup" shit, it is be ready to prove your shit now, and you BETTER not be dirty or you're DQ'd.
Both fighters would be subject to this, not just Manny. The argument here is that Floyd has so little to hide that he will concede to it, and that if Manny has nothing to hide then he should to. Being a boxing fan who does not particularly care for either fighter personally, I am all for this solution, given presented arguments.
The proposal is to do that anywhere up to within 48 hours of the fight, and the post fight draw of blood is to test for disease, the piss test is for drugs. The contention is that the more important or impactful drugs are not detected via urine, necessitating a blood test for drugs.

big question is WHY NOW?


i still dont see the point
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I for one do not ride the pac man train.

Is he good? yes.
does he deserve the hype? maybe

if another fighter wants drug testing and one of them doesnt than there is no fight. simple as at.

like phlip said, guilty dogs bark loudest.

and to answer the question "why now"

its becuase of mannys recent surge in popularity.

no one really knew, or gave a shit about him 10 years ago. so no one would waste the time/energy on that sort of thing.

but like everyone else is saying, this is a big money fight, and i do agree that it should be a fair, clean fight, regardless of if the rules require testing or not.
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here's what i think:

i just think mayweather is messing with manny's mind. he knows that manny is scared of needles and wants to do the olympic drug testing since it's random. if i knew my opponent's weakness, i would take advantage of that. to me i still think mayweather is trying to find a way out of this so he doesnt get a loss (if manny wins LEGIT). other than that i just want to see the fight.
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I for one do not ride the pac man train.

Is he good? yes.
does he deserve the hype? maybe

if another fighter wants drug testing and one of them doesnt than there is no fight. simple as at.

like phlip said, guilty dogs bark loudest.

and to answer the question "why now"

its becuase of mannys recent surge in popularity.

no one really knew, or gave a shit about him 10 years ago. so no one would waste the time/energy on that sort of thing.

but like everyone else is saying, this is a big money fight, and i do agree that it should be a fair, clean fight, regardless of if the rules require testing or not.

have you seen the incident about the 2nd fight between morales and pacquaio?

pacquiao got blood drawn after weigh in before that fight, it was still a big incident back then.


lol then whats the difference between before and after testing?


and i dont ride the pac train. just because he is filipino doesnt mean im on his side. i can give both boxers its because they both have skills. but i dont see myself rooting for someone who likes to run their mouth all the time even they are goood.

and yes GUILTY DOGS BARKS LOUDEST (MAYWEATHER JR AND SR)

just like 1on1 said. if i know my opponents weakness ill definitely exploit. just like in street fighter LMAO

either way, i still want this fight to go through.
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Where is this pacman train? I bet it knocks out all other trains
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lol then whats the difference between before and after testing?
The point is the olympic testing can be done ANYTIME up until 48 hours before the fight. It ensures that neither of them should be able to abuse any type of substance up until the fight. I think Pacmans "fear" of needles is a poor excuse for a fight of this magnitude, if hes got nothing to hide just agree and then beat him in the ring if he can. Personally I think Mayweather wins the fight, Pacman is over hyped.
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Pacman is over hyped.
Don't you DARE say that, you bastard!

Pacman is the second coming of Ali, Liston, Jack Johnson, Clubber Lang, Ivan Drago, (pre Robin Givens) Tyson and most importantly Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ, all rolled into one... There is no such thing as "overrated/overhyped" or "bandwagon" when one is cut with that kind of pedigree. He is the best boxer in the history of ever and anyone who has ever beaten him was apparently cheating. He is the most humble, least tainted boxer in the history of boxing and would never cheat, so there is no reason that they should ever have to test him, he is perfect on the strength of being perfect.
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I'm glad to see atleast one other person understands how much of a joke the Pacman bandwagon is. I hope the fight happens and he loses. I can't imagine the fallout after that, Mayweather must be a dirty cheater for wanting to have Olympic drug testing and then beating him. Ughh
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I'm glad to see atleast one other person understands how much of a joke the Pacman bandwagon is. I hope the fight happens and he loses. I can't imagine the fallout after that, Mayweather must be a dirty cheater for wanting to have Olympic drug testing and then beating him. Ughh
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just like the Obama bandwagon huh?? people always gonna accuse something as a bandwagon because of their minority.
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just like the Obama bandwagon huh?? people always gonna accuse something as a bandwagon because of their minority.
See there, Austin?
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Yup it has nothing to do with the race of the boxers, it has to do with the gigantic pedistal that Pacman was placed on. Its just ridiculous! Because Pacman doesn't want to be subject to random drug screenings to promote fairness, Mayweather is clearly the ass here? I like the way people think, I guess Pacman is the best thing since Jesus walked the earth.
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Yet Manny backed out
because manny dont need mayweather LOL per freddie roach

correction manny didnt backed out HIS TEAM did

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well seems like it. why would u come up with some olympic testing out of no where?
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its funny cause mayweathers gonna win and everyone still gonna love pacman more
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well seems like it. why would u come up with some olympic testing out of no where?
It would seem to me that being IN FAVOR of Olympic testing would lead me to believe he isn't cheating but hey what do I know, appairently you get more credibility for recanting the test.
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Pacman is over hyped.
qoute of the year.
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puss.

and y is his team making all the decisions?

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I'm glad to see atleast one other person understands how much of a joke the Pacman bandwagon is. I hope the fight happens and he loses. I can't imagine the fallout after that, Mayweather must be a dirty cheater for wanting to have Olympic drug testing and then beating him. Ughh
pacman is a joke.
Im srry, obiously he is hiding something if he cant take a drug test. He said its superstition.BS!
either his team is giving him stuff to make him faster and he doesnt know he is taking drugs. or he does. I find it how his team makes all the decisions.

but like I said before it could just be publicty.
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its funny cause mayweathers gonna win and everyone still gonna love pacman more
did u actually see the fight took place? you wont know until the match goes on.

they are both good boxers.


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It would seem to me that being IN FAVOR of Olympic testing would lead me to believe he isn't cheating but hey what do I know, appairently you get more credibility for recanting the test.

true. but they are not boxing for olympics
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true. but they are not boxing for olympics
So using this logic, you tell me that it would be okay to potentially cheat, so long as ALL that could be done to catch or prevent it keeps you from being found out?
Man, I learn something new about bass ackwards logic every day of my life.
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Im a pacman fan but its true not a big deal for him to do a blood test. But also whats wrong with him doing it after? I really dont think mayweather is bitching out but also why make a big deal out of this now? He should had done this right from the begining. I really hope this fight goes through and hopefully pacman will take it.
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doesnt matter the fight is off. manny will be fighting march 13 but against Paul Malignaggi

Bob Arum Declares Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. Fight Is Dead - Boxing - NESN.com

LAS VEGAS -- Promoter Bob Arum declared the much-anticipated fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. dead Thursday, though efforts continue to find a compromise to a dispute over blood testing.

Arum had set a Thursday deadline to come to an agreement on testing, which is the only issue not resolved for the planned March 13 fight. But with the Mayweather camp still insisting on using the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency to conduct the tests, Arum said there wasn't much left to discuss.

Despite Arum's statements, there were some talks through intermediaries to try to salvage the megafight. Neither side, though, appeared to be backing off its position on the biggest dispute -- who will do the testing.

Arum said he planned to move forward by having Pacquiao fight March 13 against Paul Malignaggi, a flashy but light-hitting 140-pounder. He said there was still a chance Pacquiao and Mayweather could meet later in the year.
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So rather than stepping up and taking a real challenger, Pacman takes the low road. I'm sure his fans should be super excited about him backing down from probably the largest fight of his entire career. The only logical thing I can conclude is that Pacman is guilty of SOMETHING, it actually takes him down even further in my book. Should be awesome for boxing as a sport! I'm sure people will still over hype Pacman when he beats somebody below his level.
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So rather than stepping up and taking a real challenger, Pacman takes the low road. I'm sure his fans should be super excited about him backing down from probably the largest fight of his entire career. The only logical thing I can conclude is that Pacman is guilty of SOMETHING, it actually takes him down even further in my book. Should be awesome for boxing as a sport! I'm sure people will still over hype Pacman when he beats somebody below his level.
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This was all Mayweather's fault, for his willingness to show that HE wasn't a cheat and not accepting Pacquiao's word that he wasn't. See, Mayweather KNEW pacman wouldn't do it, he is scared of needles and wouldn't want to give a teaspoon of blood at any point before the fight, so he sabatoged it. Everybody knows he can't fight.
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Haha i like how people say they are on neither fighters side, yet bash on one particular boxer.

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This was all Mayweather's fault, for his willingness to show that HE wasn't a cheat and not accepting Pacquiao's word that he wasn't. See, Mayweather KNEW pacman wouldn't do it, he is scared of needles and wouldn't want to give a teaspoon of blood at any point before the fight, so he sabatoged it. Everybody knows he can't fight.
^my exact point. i hope they actually fight later in 2010 and not deal with this.
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hahaha when did this happen?

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I'm sure people will still over hype Pacman when he beats somebody below his level.
hahaha define somebody below level. pls give us an example
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So, Mayweather asks for the blood test. Why? To ensure a fair fight? Why would the fight be unfair in the first place? Ahhh good ol Money Mayweather. I'm sure he's just messing with Pacquiao's head. The fight will happen and hopefully it's a good one.

But of course Pacquiao will win, he's got drugs on his side!!!!!!!!!
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hahaha define somebody below level. pls give us an example
I would consider Paul Malignaggi below his level...

Paul Malignaggi
27 Wins
3 Losses
5 KO's

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50 Wins
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38 KO's

Just by looking at the performances of both fighters this fight WILL end in KO at most in 3 rounds. It is clearly a ONE SIDED bout favoring Pacquiao as a reason to quell fans into thinking his backdown from Mayweather doesn't mean anything. It is not fooling me, thats for sure.
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