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*wangan_cruiser* · 12-23-2009, 05:07 AM

Nearly every detail is finalized for Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao to fight on March 13 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas but one. That one detail, though, may kill the fight.
Negotiations are at an impasse over Pacquiao’s failure to agree to random Olympic-style drug testing, said Leonard Ellerbe, the CEO of Mayweather Promotions, on Tuesday.
Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach said his fighter is willing to comply with strict drug-testing standards, but Roach won’t allow Pacquiao to have blood drawn 48 hours before the fight.
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Ellerbe said he would not let Mayweather enter the ring unless Pacquiao agreed to it.
Both sides agreed that the drug testing issue is the only hurdle preventing the fight from being finished. Earlier Tuesday, Golden Boy Promotions officially requested March 13 from the Nevada State Athletic Commission to host the show.
“As Floyd’s management, we are insistent that there be a level playing field,” Ellerbe said. “This is in the best interests of the fighters, the fans and the sport. If you want a level playing field, the best way to do it is to have Olympic-style, random drug testing administered by the premier agency in the world, the [United States Anti-Doping Agency].”
Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum said the demand is “absolutely crazy,” done simply to harass Pacquiao, who is squeamish about needles, and is proof that Mayweather doesn’t really want the fight.
Arum said the request has been an unsettled issue since the first day of negotiations last month.
“We’re not going to agree to have Manny give blood in training, because that’s stupid,” Arum said. “Every doctor in the world will tell you that is stupid. He’ll give his blood at the beginning of the year and he’s willing to be urine-tested 24/7, but blood doesn’t show [expletive] and he’s not going to do it.”
Michael Koncz, Pacquiao’s adviser and de facto manager, said Pacquiao believes drawing blood so close to a competition harms the body, but the boxer is willing to have his blood drawn a month away from the fight as a compromise.
Koncz said Pacquiao was willing to pass on the fight if it came to that.
“Manny has a lot more options than Mayweather does,” Koncz said. “Manny is clean and he’s never done a thing, and he’s willing to go to great lengths to prove it. It’s my understanding that this stuff doesn’t just leave your system overnight.
“He’ll take a blood test immediately after the fight, if that’s what they insist upon. But Manny believes very strongly that it would be harmful to him to draw blood that soon before the fight and he plain and simple isn’t going to do it.”
In a statement released by his publicist, Mayweather said he is willing to submit to the testing. There was never any suspicion that Pacquiao had ever taken banned substances until earlier this year, when Floyd Mayweather Sr. suggested he was on steroids.
Pacquiao has passed every urine test he’s been given in connection with boxing matches.
“I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken, because frankly I don’t know anyone who really does,” Mayweather said in his statement. “But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level. I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same.
“It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night. I hope that this is either some miscommunication or that Manny will change his mind and step up and allow these tests, which were good enough for all these other great athletes, to be performed by USADA.”
Blood tests for illegal drugs and banned substances are not required by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would have regulatory control of the bout if it is held in Las Vegas.
In Nevada, a fighter is required to submit to a blood test that screens for HIV and Hepatitis B and C, as well as other blood-borne diseases, as part of the requirement to gain a license.
A license in Nevada is good for one year. In Pacquiao’s case, he received his 2009 license shortly before he fought Ricky Hatton in May. He submitted his blood to the commission between April 5 and April 20, said Keith Kizer, the commission’s executive director.
Kizer said all fighters who fight in Nevada are subject to random urine tests as well as any other medical tests, such as an MRI or a CAT scan, that the commission deems necessary. Arum said Pacquiao is willing to submit to testing by an outside agency but won’t give his blood. Roach said it’s an issue because Mayweather’s side has been insisting Pacquiao give blood as close as 48 hours within the fight.
“We’ll accommodate their requests and do urine testing up the wazoo and we’ll agree to have them done by an outside agency,” Arum said. “Manny has nothing to hide. But he’s not going to give blood because that’s crazy. He’ll do it at the beginning and he’ll do it at the end. That’s how it is done. Ask some former Olympic boxers how many times they give blood.”
Ellerbe said having the testing administered by USADA would quell suspicions about the procedures or the result.
“This is no rooty toot organization,” said Ellerbe, who noted that such testing was accepted by elite athletes such as LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Michael Phelps and Lance Armstrong.
Roach scoffed at such talk and said it won’t matter to him if the fight is not held.
“I really don’t care, because Manny doesn’t need Floyd Mayweather,” Roach said. “The tests he’s requesting are not commission tests, they’re not boxing tests and this is not an Olympic sport. A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”
The World Anti-Doping Agency successfully used blood testing at the 2004 Olympics in Athens to test for HGH.

*wangan_cruiser* · 12-23-2009, 05:07 AM

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napaKAliboog · 12-23-2009, 05:13 AM

HAHAHAHAHAH the only thing that manny does is drink garunteeeeeeed and smokes cigs here n here... some of the people that won his weight camp and I were just drinking to this news a while ago ahahaha

*DALAZ_68* · 12-23-2009, 08:10 AM

wow...

i have no doubt Pacman is hiding nothing, it just sounds like Mayweather is already bitching out and needs a loop hole to get out fo the shit he's in

Sleepy240 · 12-23-2009, 08:15 AM

As much as I think Mayweather is giving him the run around, there seems to be nothing wrong with the solution, get the blood drawn. Especially if hes not hiding anything, getting the blood drawn showing nothing makes Mayweather look like even more of a jackass.

cumbewong · 12-23-2009, 08:19 AM

ha. fuck mayweather

/pacman

**Phlip** · 12-23-2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

wow...

i have no doubt Pacman is hiding nothing, it just sounds like Mayweather is already bitching out and needs a loop hole to get out fo the shit he's in

Well then, how about now as a good time to call his bluff and accept? If he was REALLY trying to get out of it, I would be willing to bet that he would come up with something new.
Fuck, I know that I would take this fight with the promise of a multi million dollar payday, even though I KNOW I would get my ass kicked unless I can bring my gun to the ring with me.
Look, I know that Mayweather has beaten up on tomato cans and avoided "tougher" opponents, but the fact remains that none of them presented the payout that this fight would create. I also concede that he talks entirely too fucking much.
I am not, though, on the Pacquiao bandwagon, not even close. In fact, the bandwagon is the worst thing about him to me, which is rather unfortunate.
But
If there is nothing to hide, there should be no issue with it. Kinda like I work for a medical lab in which I could be tapped on the shoulder at any moment and told I got 30 minutes to get to the PSC to piss in a cup or give blood for a random drug screen. I would be there in 10, as I have nothing to worry about. Guilty dog barks loudest.

My opinion.

*exitspeed* · 12-23-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy240

As much as I think Mayweather is giving him the run around, there seems to be nothing wrong with the solution, get the blood drawn. Especially if hes not hiding anything, getting the blood drawn showing nothing makes Mayweather look like even more of a jackass.

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Originally Posted by PHLIP

Well then, how about now as a good time to call his bluff and accept? If he was REALLY trying to get out of it, I would be willing to bet that he would come up with something new.
Fuck, I know that I would take this fight with the promise of a multi million dollar payday, even though I KNOW I would get my ass kicked unless I can bring my gun to the ring with me.
Look, I know that Mayweather has beaten up on tomato cans and avoided "tougher" opponents, but the fact remains that none of them presented the payout that this fight would create. I also concede that he talks entirely too fucking much.
I am not, though, on the Pacquiao bandwagon, not even close. In fact, the bandwagon is the worst thing about him to me, which is rather unfortunate.
But
If there is nothing to hide, there should be no issue with it. Kinda like I work for a medical lab in which I could be tapped on the shoulder at any moment and told I got 30 minutes to get to the PSC to piss in a cup or give blood for a random drug screen. I would be there in 10, as I have nothing to worry about. Guilty dog barks loudest.

My opinion.

I agree with both of these statements. If you have nothing to hide there's no reason to refuse it.

**Phlip** · 12-23-2009, 08:32 AM

And there comes in the question of whether the loss or removal of blood could cause adverse physical effects as an excuse.
Bullshit
The amount needed to take for a random drug screen is tiny, so little that the body replaces it in a few hours. Not like a donation of a damned quart or something, where they tell you to avoid physical action or alcohol for a few days or so.
Again, I don't particularly care for either fighter, but would love to see the fight with it being what it would be, and would hate to see it lost to a bunch of copouts.

**Phlip** · 12-23-2009, 08:32 AM

And there comes in the question of whether the loss or removal of blood could cause adverse physical effects as an excuse.
Bullshit
The amount needed to take for a random drug screen is tiny, so little that the body replaces it in a few hours. Not like a donation of a damned quart or something, where they tell you to avoid physical action or alcohol for a few days or so.
Again, I don't particularly care for either fighter, but would love to see the fight with it being what it would be, and would hate to see it lost to a bunch of copouts.

*DALAZ_68* · 12-23-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PHLIP

Well then, how about now as a good time to call his bluff and accept? If he was REALLY trying to get out of it, I would be willing to bet that he would come up with something new.
Fuck, I know that I would take this fight with the promise of a multi million dollar payday, even though I KNOW I would get my ass kicked unless I can bring my gun to the ring with me.
Look, I know that Mayweather has beaten up on tomato cans and avoided "tougher" opponents, but the fact remains that none of them presented the payout that this fight would create. I also concede that he talks entirely too fucking much.
I am not, though, on the Pacquiao bandwagon, not even close. In fact, the bandwagon is the worst thing about him to me, which is rather unfortunate.
But
If there is nothing to hide, there should be no issue with it. Kinda like I work for a medical lab in which I could be tapped on the shoulder at any moment and told I got 30 minutes to get to the PSC to piss in a cup or give blood for a random drug screen. I would be there in 10, as I have nothing to worry about. Guilty dog barks loudest.

My opinion.

i personally dont watch sports...so trust when i say im not apart of the bandwagon, i hate that wagon, there the reason i cant go to my local chinese food spot and get my favorite meal when ever there is a "pacman" fight...its just i havent heard so much controversy over fight like this for a good while...mind you hes willing to give blood one month prior, he believes that giving blood so close to the fight might fuck him up, who are we to say fuck your beliefs and mind you he's a tiny fuck, he needs every ounce he has, lol...MIND YOU, he is more than willing to give urine 24/7 and has even agreed to give blood right after they ring the bell...

i dont see the issue...

i see it as this, if they let pac do the test right after his fight, and he comes out positive for drugs, they can strip his title and he'll most likely get beaten to death for reppin his country in a disgracing matter...

me being a big guy like you PHLIP, ive never underestimated the strength of the little guy...and i wouldnt accuse one of taking something to make them strong enough to take me down...

but wtf do i care...i dont even watch sports...

**Phlip** · 12-23-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

he is more than willing to give urine 24/7 and has even agreed to give blood right after they ring the bell...

i dont see the issue...

i see it as this, if they let pac do the test right after his fight, and he comes out positive for drugs, they can strip his title and he'll most likely get beaten to death for reppin his country in a disgracing matter...

The issue is that there are things that damn near EVERYTHING will show in blood, where it might not in urine. Also, knowing that you will be tested within a certain period of time before or after allows one to take the necessary steps to get that shit out of your system, kinda like a pot head will cycle off of the shit when he knows he will be applying for a new job for which he will be piss tested.

Farzam · 12-23-2009, 08:44 AM

I don't understand how you could repeatedly get in a ring and get beat down (or beat someone down) for an extended period of time, yet you can't get stuck with a needle. They should just trick him into it, probably wouldn't be too hard.

Sleepy240 · 12-23-2009, 08:58 AM

I think the biggest thing is, as Phlip stated, the amount of blood drawn is SOOO insignificant that there is no possible way it could effect anyone's performance. While I said it before, I think Mayweather is reaching for straws here, I see nothing wrong with it. This is probably the biggest single boxing match of my lifetime (as far as hype goes), I would hope they take every step to ensure the fight is straight and fair, especially with all the money involved. I think Pacman should step up and agree to it, since he has nothing to hide, just as Mayweather agreed to it.

*DALAZ_68* · 12-23-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PHLIP

The issue is that there are things that damn near EVERYTHING will show in blood, where it might not in urine. Also, knowing that you will be tested within a certain period of time before or after allows one to take the necessary steps to get that shit out of your system, kinda like a pot head will cycle off of the shit when he knows he will be applying for a new job for which he will be piss tested.

agreed...so whats so wrong with him taking a test after the fight? he would obviously be on a drug if he wins right? and im pretty sure mayweathers will have no issue with him giving blood right there on the ring right after the fight to avoid any suspision of giving someone else's blood...

hell cotton swab his mouth, take nail clipping take hair clippings...

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Originally Posted by Farzam

I don't understand how you could repeatedly get in a ring and get beat down (or beat someone down) for an extended period of time, yet you can't get stuck with a needle. They should just trick him into it, probably wouldn't be too hard.

dude, honestly, im 290 5'8'' and since i can remember ive been deathly afraid of needles...to the point of hyperventilating and passing out...no joke...they would take my blood after i passed out...

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Originally Posted by Sleepy240

I think the biggest thing is, as Phlip stated, the amount of blood drawn is SOOO insignificant that there is no possible way it could effect anyone's performance. While I said it before, I think Mayweather is reaching for straws here, I see nothing wrong with it. This is probably the biggest single boxing match of my lifetime (as far as hype goes), I would hope they take every step to ensure the fight is straight and fair, especially with all the money involved. I think Pacman should step up and agree to it, since he has nothing to hide, just as Mayweather agreed to it.

i still dont see the issue...hes been deemed honest b4, he's followed all other rules Regulated rules without issue, now because mayweather opens his mouth he should concide to his wishes...cmon, as stated b4, he's willign to give blood right after the fight, if i was mayweather id be kew with that... because if he came out + it would only make me look better and honest...and if he won, id get a win out of it...

lewisfk · 12-23-2009, 09:44 AM

I agree with sleepy and phillip, get the blood drawn! I realy dont care about the steriods, i care more about the disease factor!

BustedS13 · 12-23-2009, 09:44 AM

this thread isn't about Pac Man.

i broke 300,000 on Ms. Pac Man two days ago.

now this thread is about Pac Man.

rb26man · 12-23-2009, 10:17 AM

i can honestly say im a fan of both fighters...and if pacman has nothing to hide he can take the damn test idc if your ass if afraid of needles shit im afraid of getting shot and my ass is infantry in the army so dont give me that bs....mayweather has lived up to his title the pound for pound champ and once he retired the past the name on to pacman...now that hes back its time to man the fuck up take the damn test and see who is truly the pound for pound champ

tricky_ab · 12-23-2009, 10:33 AM

I really don't see the problem with him asking for the blood to be drawn 2 days before the fight! Just agree to it already and let's get this fight finalized!

Soup Nazi · 12-23-2009, 11:58 AM

Well the fight according to ESPN, has been called off, Per Manny's crew.

**Phlip** · 12-23-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

agreed...so whats so wrong with him taking a test after the fight?

If I KNOW I will be tested for something and specifically when I will be tested and I MIGHT test hot, then I will take all necessary precautions, be it masking agents, detoxing, whatever it takes, to not be caught.

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

he would obviously be on a drug if he wins right?

One does not have to be actively on something to be on the continued benefits of it.
Take Barry Bonds, for example, I am willing to bet that he is still fucking enormous, and has had no reason to be on ANYTHING for almost 2 years now.

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

hell cotton swab his mouth, take nail clipping take hair clippings...

Not accurate for all that they might be looking for.

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

i still dont see the issue...hes been deemed honest b4, he's followed all other rules Regulated rules without issue, now because mayweather opens his mouth he should concide to his wishes...

Maybe it's me, I don't trust a single soul. People will be as honest as they must be to get by, and the guy who has not yet been caught with his hand in the cookie jar looks the most honest. Not saying that he definitely is a cheat, just that it is plausible
If there is nothing to hide, looking at what is on the line here, it looks like something IS being hidden through these excuses and what have you, then why the big issue with it.
Make Mayweather look all the way dumb. Test clean, whoop ass, talk shit.

What we do know about Olympic-style testing is that you can be asked to test at ANY moment and that they will ask for blood and/or urine, but usually blood that they draw, as a control thing.
For instance, during the Olympics last year, during an open USA practice, Kobe Bryant crossed someone the fuck over badly, dribbled down the lane heroically and threw down what I am told was a particularly EPIC dunk... In practice.
... he was tested IMMEDIATELY during the practice and had to either concede or get his whole squad DQ'd.
The removal of control from the hands of the person being tested seems to be more the issue than the fact that testing is to take place.

I am not saying that Manny WILL test filthy on this one, but the excuses used and the fact that they would just back out of the biggest fight since The Thrilla in Manila because of something that should be flies to an elephant in importance is crazy to me.
Looks like boxing fans get shafted out of a fight, it seems.
Oh well, NBA season is still going strong.

*wangan_cruiser* · 12-23-2009, 03:04 PM

just looking at all your comments makes me laugh some how.

i mean come on, i completely understand how manny refuse to give out blood within 48 hours. i dont want to repeat what dalaz_68 said but it is ridiculous. when he fought eric morales he got his blood drawn 24 hrs before the fight and he lost from the fight.

why manny didnt get this treatment when he was fighting other boxers like marquez, morales,cotto, hatton and de la hoya?

dont you guys think itll be better to take the test RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT.

why? making manny take blood drawn after 2 days giving him 2 days to get another shot if he is really taking shots of drug.

if he mentioned that he is an easy work why all this bullshit keeps coming up?

he obviously get scared and jsut trying to go and pursue with "legal bullshit", they wanted to make pac man crew chicken out so he can preserve his unbeatable record.

thats lame.

im not even a boxing fan

randomxzero · 12-23-2009, 03:29 PM

Mayweather is just being a little girl...:ghey:

Sleepy240 · 12-23-2009, 03:34 PM

Wangan this is where I completely disagree. Do I think Mayweather is trying to back out, absolutely not. This request is not absurd by any means. Like Phlip said, and I said earlier, this would be clearly the LARGEST fight in a long time. With the amount of money, and time invested in this event why WOULDN'T you want it to be as clean as possible? God forbid one of them were to test positive AFTER the fight, that to me would be crushing to the sport and the fans. Could you imagine paying $50 to watch a fight and then afterwards go, oh that didn't count. Honestly I think Pacman is being kind of a baby about the whole situation, its just blood and the amount could no way effect either of their performances.

*wangan_cruiser* · 12-23-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wangan_cruiser

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dont you guys think itll be better to take the test RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT.

why? making manny take blood drawn after 2 days giving him 2 days to get another shot if he is really taking shots of drug.

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Originally Posted by Sleepy240

Wangan this is where I completely disagree. Do I think Mayweather is trying to back out, absolutely not. This request is not absurd by any means. Like Phlip said, and I said earlier, this would be clearly the LARGEST fight in a long time. With the amount of money, and time invested in this event why WOULDN'T you want it to be as clean as possible? God forbid one of them were to test positive AFTER the fight, that to me would be crushing to the sport and the fans. Could you imagine paying $50 to watch a fight and then afterwards go, oh that didn't count. Honestly I think Pacman is being kind of a baby about the whole situation, its just blood and the amount could no way effect either of their performances.

getting a test after the fight should be more legit since they cant run away and unable to use any drugs to neutralize it.
and i believe the drug would be more potent after the fight. and mind you all that 10cc is the amount of blood will be drawn for testing and u cant get that shit back in 2 days.

drift_limo · 12-23-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

wow...

i have no doubt Pacman is hiding nothing, it just sounds like Mayweather is already bitching out and needs a loop hole to get out fo the shit he's in

Its all publicity.

but my money is on mayweather.

BOROSUN · 12-23-2009, 06:41 PM

its all mind games...if i fight, i wouldn't want to get my blood drawn. i gotta keep my mind right in the box. but, not inside it.

its like...

you're getting prepped ... focus.. clear your mind.. hey, gotta get blood drawn. wtf!!!

Deftec · 12-23-2009, 07:08 PM

Why not make them both take the blood test 48 hours prior?

silverarrow27 · 12-23-2009, 08:08 PM

"...Blood tests for illegal drugs and banned substances are not required by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would have regulatory control of the bout if it is held in Las Vegas.
In Nevada, a fighter is required to submit to a blood test that screens for HIV and Hepatitis B and C, as well as other blood-borne diseases, as part of the requirement to gain a license..."

As quoted from the article, fighters are not required to test...so if I was Pac, I'd give him a big ass finger and tell him to kiss his big ass paycheck goodbye. Mayweather does have 'Money' in his name for a reason.

If Mayweather wants an Olympic drug test done, should have pushed for the bout to be done elsewhere that requires it or he should try out for the upcoming Olympics and try to be an Olympian 'again'.

This is coming from someone that has only seen an old fight of each fighter and have no cable television to watch any tv.

boobs13 · 12-23-2009, 08:15 PM

mayweather is scared lol

12-23-2009, 05:07 AM	#1
wangan_cruiser kouki man Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: downtown oakland,ca Age: 36 Posts: 3,535 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	Mayweather team requests blood test 48 hrs before fight with pacman Nearly every detail is finalized for Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao to fight on March 13 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas but one. That one detail, though, may kill the fight. Negotiations are at an impasse over Pacquiao’s failure to agree to random Olympic-style drug testing, said Leonard Ellerbe, the CEO of Mayweather Promotions, on Tuesday. Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach said his fighter is willing to comply with strict drug-testing standards, but Roach won’t allow Pacquiao to have blood drawn 48 hours before the fight. More From Kevin Iole Ellerbe said he would not let Mayweather enter the ring unless Pacquiao agreed to it. Both sides agreed that the drug testing issue is the only hurdle preventing the fight from being finished. Earlier Tuesday, Golden Boy Promotions officially requested March 13 from the Nevada State Athletic Commission to host the show. “As Floyd’s management, we are insistent that there be a level playing field,” Ellerbe said. “This is in the best interests of the fighters, the fans and the sport. If you want a level playing field, the best way to do it is to have Olympic-style, random drug testing administered by the premier agency in the world, the [United States Anti-Doping Agency].” Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum said the demand is “absolutely crazy,” done simply to harass Pacquiao, who is squeamish about needles, and is proof that Mayweather doesn’t really want the fight. Arum said the request has been an unsettled issue since the first day of negotiations last month. “We’re not going to agree to have Manny give blood in training, because that’s stupid,” Arum said. “Every doctor in the world will tell you that is stupid. He’ll give his blood at the beginning of the year and he’s willing to be urine-tested 24/7, but blood doesn’t show [expletive] and he’s not going to do it.” Michael Koncz, Pacquiao’s adviser and de facto manager, said Pacquiao believes drawing blood so close to a competition harms the body, but the boxer is willing to have his blood drawn a month away from the fight as a compromise. Koncz said Pacquiao was willing to pass on the fight if it came to that. “Manny has a lot more options than Mayweather does,” Koncz said. “Manny is clean and he’s never done a thing, and he’s willing to go to great lengths to prove it. It’s my understanding that this stuff doesn’t just leave your system overnight. “He’ll take a blood test immediately after the fight, if that’s what they insist upon. But Manny believes very strongly that it would be harmful to him to draw blood that soon before the fight and he plain and simple isn’t going to do it.” In a statement released by his publicist, Mayweather said he is willing to submit to the testing. There was never any suspicion that Pacquiao had ever taken banned substances until earlier this year, when Floyd Mayweather Sr. suggested he was on steroids. Pacquiao has passed every urine test he’s been given in connection with boxing matches. “I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken, because frankly I don’t know anyone who really does,” Mayweather said in his statement. “But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level. I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same. “It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night. I hope that this is either some miscommunication or that Manny will change his mind and step up and allow these tests, which were good enough for all these other great athletes, to be performed by USADA.” Blood tests for illegal drugs and banned substances are not required by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would have regulatory control of the bout if it is held in Las Vegas. In Nevada, a fighter is required to submit to a blood test that screens for HIV and Hepatitis B and C, as well as other blood-borne diseases, as part of the requirement to gain a license. A license in Nevada is good for one year. In Pacquiao’s case, he received his 2009 license shortly before he fought Ricky Hatton in May. He submitted his blood to the commission between April 5 and April 20, said Keith Kizer, the commission’s executive director. Kizer said all fighters who fight in Nevada are subject to random urine tests as well as any other medical tests, such as an MRI or a CAT scan, that the commission deems necessary. Arum said Pacquiao is willing to submit to testing by an outside agency but won’t give his blood. Roach said it’s an issue because Mayweather’s side has been insisting Pacquiao give blood as close as 48 hours within the fight. “We’ll accommodate their requests and do urine testing up the wazoo and we’ll agree to have them done by an outside agency,” Arum said. “Manny has nothing to hide. But he’s not going to give blood because that’s crazy. He’ll do it at the beginning and he’ll do it at the end. That’s how it is done. Ask some former Olympic boxers how many times they give blood.” Ellerbe said having the testing administered by USADA would quell suspicions about the procedures or the result. “This is no rooty toot organization,” said Ellerbe, who noted that such testing was accepted by elite athletes such as LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Michael Phelps and Lance Armstrong. Roach scoffed at such talk and said it won’t matter to him if the fight is not held. “I really don’t care, because Manny doesn’t need Floyd Mayweather,” Roach said. “The tests he’s requesting are not commission tests, they’re not boxing tests and this is not an Olympic sport. A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.” The World Anti-Doping Agency successfully used blood testing at the 2004 Olympics in Athens to test for HGH.

12-23-2009, 08:10 AM	#4
DALAZ_68 not giving a fuck Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los angeles Age: 35 Posts: 15,080 Trader Rating: (104) Feedback Score: 104 reviews	wow... i have no doubt Pacman is hiding nothing, it just sounds like Mayweather is already bitching out and needs a loop hole to get out fo the shit he's in __________________ LOL 240... whats better than 1? 5 1's ...lol PSN & XBL GT : Wh0pp3r68 CLUB LEXUS : Wh0pp3r

12-23-2009, 08:15 AM	#5
Sleepy240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Age: 35 Posts: 780 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	As much as I think Mayweather is giving him the run around, there seems to be nothing wrong with the solution, get the blood drawn. Especially if hes not hiding anything, getting the blood drawn showing nothing makes Mayweather look like even more of a jackass. __________________ Been awhile...

12-23-2009, 08:44 AM	#13
Farzam Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles / Raleigh, NC Age: 31 Posts: 5,144 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't understand how you could repeatedly get in a ring and get beat down (or beat someone down) for an extended period of time, yet you can't get stuck with a needle. They should just trick him into it, probably wouldn't be too hard. __________________ loading HATERS.....99% ███████████████]

12-23-2009, 08:58 AM	#14
Sleepy240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Age: 35 Posts: 780 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think the biggest thing is, as Phlip stated, the amount of blood drawn is SOOO insignificant that there is no possible way it could effect anyone's performance. While I said it before, I think Mayweather is reaching for straws here, I see nothing wrong with it. This is probably the biggest single boxing match of my lifetime (as far as hype goes), I would hope they take every step to ensure the fight is straight and fair, especially with all the money involved. I think Pacman should step up and agree to it, since he has nothing to hide, just as Mayweather agreed to it. __________________ Been awhile...

12-23-2009, 05:13 AM	#3
napaKAliboog BANNED Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: los angeles Age: 32 Posts: 428 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	HAHAHAHAHAH the only thing that manny does is drink garunteeeeeeed and smokes cigs here n here... some of the people that won his weight camp and I were just drinking to this news a while ago ahahaha

12-23-2009, 08:19 AM	#6
cumbewong BANNED Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Orlando, Florida Age: 31 Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ha. fuck mayweather /pacman

12-23-2009, 09:44 AM	#16
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I agree with sleepy and phillip, get the blood drawn! I realy dont care about the steriods, i care more about the disease factor!

12-23-2009, 09:44 AM	#17
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this thread isn't about Pac Man. i broke 300,000 on Ms. Pac Man two days ago. now this thread is about Pac Man. __________________

12-23-2009, 10:17 AM	#18
rb26man Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: where the hood ckatz is at Age: 34 Posts: 891 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i can honestly say im a fan of both fighters...and if pacman has nothing to hide he can take the damn test idc if your ass if afraid of needles shit im afraid of getting shot and my ass is infantry in the army so dont give me that bs....mayweather has lived up to his title the pound for pound champ and once he retired the past the name on to pacman...now that hes back its time to man the fuck up take the damn test and see who is truly the pound for pound champ __________________

12-23-2009, 10:33 AM	#19
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	I really don't see the problem with him asking for the blood to be drawn 2 days before the fight! Just agree to it already and let's get this fight finalized!

12-23-2009, 03:04 PM	#22
wangan_cruiser kouki man Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: downtown oakland,ca Age: 36 Posts: 3,535 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	just looking at all your comments makes me laugh some how. i mean come on, i completely understand how manny refuse to give out blood within 48 hours. i dont want to repeat what dalaz_68 said but it is ridiculous. when he fought eric morales he got his blood drawn 24 hrs before the fight and he lost from the fight. why manny didnt get this treatment when he was fighting other boxers like marquez, morales,cotto, hatton and de la hoya? dont you guys think itll be better to take the test RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT. why? making manny take blood drawn after 2 days giving him 2 days to get another shot if he is really taking shots of drug. if he mentioned that he is an easy work why all this bullshit keeps coming up? he obviously get scared and jsut trying to go and pursue with "legal bullshit", they wanted to make pac man crew chicken out so he can preserve his unbeatable record. thats lame. im not even a boxing fan

12-23-2009, 03:29 PM	#23
randomxzero Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 562 Age: 31 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Mayweather is just being a little girl...:ghey:

12-23-2009, 03:34 PM	#24
Sleepy240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Age: 35 Posts: 780 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wangan this is where I completely disagree. Do I think Mayweather is trying to back out, absolutely not. This request is not absurd by any means. Like Phlip said, and I said earlier, this would be clearly the LARGEST fight in a long time. With the amount of money, and time invested in this event why WOULDN'T you want it to be as clean as possible? God forbid one of them were to test positive AFTER the fight, that to me would be crushing to the sport and the fans. Could you imagine paying $50 to watch a fight and then afterwards go, oh that didn't count. Honestly I think Pacman is being kind of a baby about the whole situation, its just blood and the amount could no way effect either of their performances. __________________ Been awhile...

12-23-2009, 06:41 PM	#27
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its all mind games...if i fight, i wouldn't want to get my blood drawn. i gotta keep my mind right in the box. but, not inside it. its like... you're getting prepped ... focus.. clear your mind.. hey, gotta get blood drawn. wtf!!!

12-23-2009, 07:08 PM	#28
Deftec Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ks Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why not make them both take the blood test 48 hours prior? __________________

12-23-2009, 08:08 PM	#29
silverarrow27 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Banning, CA Posts: 1,428 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	"...Blood tests for illegal drugs and banned substances are not required by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would have regulatory control of the bout if it is held in Las Vegas. In Nevada, a fighter is required to submit to a blood test that screens for HIV and Hepatitis B and C, as well as other blood-borne diseases, as part of the requirement to gain a license..." As quoted from the article, fighters are not required to test...so if I was Pac, I'd give him a big ass finger and tell him to kiss his big ass paycheck goodbye. Mayweather does have 'Money' in his name for a reason. If Mayweather wants an Olympic drug test done, should have pushed for the bout to be done elsewhere that requires it or he should try out for the upcoming Olympics and try to be an Olympian 'again'. This is coming from someone that has only seen an old fight of each fighter and have no cable television to watch any tv. __________________ 1989 240sx XE\|2002 Frontier SC CC LB 4wd\|2011 Pathfinder LE V8 4wd

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