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Kia GT4 Stinger
2.0 Turbocharged
RWD 50/50 Weight Distribution
2874 Pounds
Brembo Brakes


Kia GT4 Stinger Concept | Full specs, photos, and performance | Digital Trends

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dudermagee

That thing is ugly
and there is already a thread for this

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simmode1

I love everything about this car. I just hope that it gets made. Seems to good to be true.

But I'm not sure why they wouldn't make it, though. I mean, it's based on the existing Genesis coupe chassis. Probably the same 6 speed transmission too (if so, I hope they fixed the hanging revs). And it's running the same engine as the Genesis coupe and Optima just but with direct injection on it and detuned from their Pirelli World Challenge racing program. They're finally doing some motorsports with their cars again. Apparently, they campaigned the Forte as well.


It's not like they're starting from the ground up developing the car and seeing if there is even a market for it. We know there's a market for it and Hyundai's done all the heavy lifting already. Price it in between turbo and V6 Genesis coupes and just release the damn car, Kia. I can't think of many current cars under $40k that would be able to compete with the performance and MPGs.

silverarrow27

I think this car deserve its own thread, side profile look sweet. Not liking front or rear on this thing though.

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180sxmaniac

Ive been chopping at tge bit at buying a new nismo 370z but im gonna wait for pricibg on thid.Nismo Z goes for 46k i can see this GT4 being priced at 32k and with 300hp and that weight i think it could potentially be a better bargain

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simmode1

This Stinger certainly could command a price tag like $32k, but a few things make me think it won't be that pricey.
- Kia is the down market sibling to Hyundai. They aren't trying to price it much higher than the GC.
- It's full of hand me down tech, so r&d costs should be low. #Project Genesis lightweight.
- The plan is to release this as an FRS or Miata fighter, so i'd expect similar pricing.

I would not be surprised at all if the Genesis Coupe goes upmarket in it's next gen running Hyundai 5.0 V8 to further differentiate it from the Stinger. In fact, I'd like to see their line ups come out like this:

Stinger:
2.0L N/A option for $23k with an FRS rivaling 200hp.
2.0t option for $27.5k crush everything in its price range with its 315hp.

Next Gen Genesis Coupe goes Mustang hunting, but gives it's new little brother some room to play:
Drop the 2.0t and run the 350hp V6 as the base engine at $29k.
Fit the 5.0L Tau V8 with 430hp+ as the range topper at ~$35k.

PeaceOnesxWai

Looks like we are going to get a new era for RWD sport cars!! Pretty excited!

Matej

Those headlights are too low to be legal in America, unless the law has changed. Otherwise, I am guessing the front end will get a redesign, at least for the US market.

BoredEE

I love the see through A pillar. I hope to see it on more cars!

I can't stand how all new cars have huge A pillars to fit an airbag.

It creates a huge blindspot.

I have a curve near my house, at the perfect angle, that I've never seen oncoming traffic until they are within 50feet.

fliprayzin240sx

The lack of headlights in the normal location makes the car look funky to me. If they add something on the hood line to break it out some, I think that would make it look better.

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exitspeed

That part is not true actually. Kia is considered Hyundai's "sportier" cousin. Hence why the Kia version of the Genesis Sedan, the K900, is being marketed as a more sports sedan than the Genesis Sedan. It's also more expensive than the Genesis and just less than the Equus.

Back to the Stinger. I love it. It's going to be made. Kia and Hyundai are not fucking around anymore and when they decide they are going to build a car, they build it.

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simmode1

^^^I didn't realize that... If that's the case, this car really could sell for 370Z prices, probably (given it's specs). But I don't see how they could market it as a FRS/Miata competitor in that price range....

If it's priced about about $32k-$35k, then it's going to have to compete with BMW's new 2 series. If that happens, the Nismo IDX might still stand a chance if it stays around $27.5k That's where both of them need to be, IMO.

Oh god yes!

simmode1

It's becoming a struggle to maintain interest in the IDX, honestly. I feel like I'm doing moreso out of loyalty to Nissan.

The Stinger is just... Wow. It'll be a game changer if it's priced the same as the FRS.


About as functional as a Z33/Z34 hatch maybe?

simmode1

The more I see of it, the more I like it and the more I doubt it's going to be under $30k...


But until it's confirmed for production, my money is on the IDX.

fliprayzin240sx

Is it just me or from this angle, it reminds me of an updated 240z hatch for some reason.

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future

Finally something to look forward to. That Nissan idx is shit, I lost my loyalty to Nissan years back when they keep making shit after shit with CAT trans that constantly blow. Shity brand is shity

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unwtdhero

Flip, i agree. Its the roof line for sure. Now someone shop nissan badges on it

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Matej

Indeed, if only Nissan made this car. I do not even like Kia, yet cannot help but applaud them on this concept.

simmode1

^^^Yeah, its like Nissan refused to revive the Silvia, so Kia did it for them. Instead, Nissan gives us the IDX. A nice effort, but not exactly what we asked for.

Can't wait to get off work and watch that video.

exitspeed

It's funny. It's not what I asked for, but I find myself thinking it's really what I wanted.

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exitspeed

Seen the car on Saturday. Man it is awwwwesome looking. Size wise it looks really wide and low, which is a good thing. It was one of the highlights of the show for sure. Looking forward to seeing how the production car shapes up.

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simmode1

I was just thinking... I'm pretty sure we all know the headlights are much too low to make production. But if they just move them higher and maybe even add ducting underneath, in the style of the SLS AMG, it would become more realistic and even better looking.

fliprayzin240sx

But realistically, how many people would actually buy this thing? I mean we had the same rwd hype when the first Genesis Coupe came out and it didnt really blew up as big as Hyundai hoped it would. So whats the chance that people will be buying these like hotcakes? Only way I see it happening is if they price these like the Optimas, turbo charge the crap out of it and slap the same ergonomics in it. I must have seen more Optimas on the road since I came back stateside than anything nissan related except for the altimas.

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um the genesis sold pretty well. they didn't make a ton of that car like they did their sonota. most people are looking for a family style car. the market is very slim for sports style car. the genesis sold very well. infact it sold so well I had to wait a couple of weeks to come across a rspec model when they first came out because ppl were buying those.

exitspeed

Yeah, not to beat a dead horse but we've went over this over and over and over. The Genesis sold as it should have. It was never meant to sell like a Sonota. And on top of it Hyundai isn't even worried about coupe only sales and is why it just includes the coupe sales in with the Sedan. It's not there to make them a mint, it's there to prove they can build fun, sporty cars for the few people that want them.

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simmode1

Only time will tell how the Stinger might sell if it sees production. I do know that it does address the gripes people voiced about the Genesis coupe though:

Weight:
At around 3400 lbs, many felt the Genesis coupe was too heavy. The Stinger is shaving off about 600 lbs...

Power:
The first gen Genesis coupe 2.0t didn't have nearly enough power. While the refreshed version got more power, The Stinger's power to weight ratio is even better.

Styling:
Yeah... looks way better than the Genesis coupe before AND after the refresh.

I don't see any reason the Stinger wouldn't sell more succefully than the Gen coupe, provided they price it to compete with the FRS like they've said.

But I don't understand how they'd expect it to not kill off the Genesis coupe at the same time... Only thing that makes sense to me is if the GC goes upmarket next gen, drops their 2.0t and only offers their V6 & V8.

exitspeed

I read an interview that Kia and Hyundai operate almost like they don't exist as far as building similar cars. They are completely not concerned with building a car that may canalize sales of another. That is why every single one of their platforms have a Kia and Hyundai version. Where they do it right is they look almost NOTHING like each other. If you debadged them and debuted them you'd have no idea the Genesis Coupe is related to the Stinger.

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simmode1

^^^Oh, so like... "Who cares if you buy more Stingers than GC's... The money is still going to the same place"?

exitspeed

Exactly. They operate independently on styling but ultimately it's one company. It's basically TWO opportunities to sell a car instead of one.

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