buku_points

I am currently getting together my KA-T setup and i was wondering with this setup listed below, if it would be safe to daily drive without blowing the engine? i have had 2 SR swaps before and would like to experiance KA-T. Seeing as though this is my first KA-T attempt, any info would help and be greatly appreciated. Thanks in Advance.

Stock boost
tubular manifold
SR Injectors
Upgraded Fuel pump
Full 3" exhaust
FMIC
T-25
AFC

125,000 miles orig. on motor/chasis

godzillarb

FYI, if you're boosting a KA engine nothing is "stock boost"

With that said, how much boost do you want to run?

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buku_points

oh, sorry bout' that. around 7-8 psi.

silnismo

you should check around Ka-t.org, plenty of people are running this setup with no issues.

NemeGuero

word.. cheap bastards


and you'll either need to retard base timing or get a BTM.

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buku_points

^ so if i retard base timimg or get a BTM, it would be safe to daily drive?

Irukandji

retard timing to about 14 degrees...

Again, please check ka-t.org they are REALLY informative about this kind of stuff. I plan to run a very similar setup to yours but I'm using an n60 maf on top of an SAFC.

buku_points

^ yea thanx man. i went to the site and i read a couple of stickies that were pretty imformative. just looking from advice from as many who write me back. but thanks again.

skate07

you will blow the HG within a month, its just the way it is. im not being ignorant, im speaking from "turboing the stock KA" with experience

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chlatboy

word of advice. Dont let steven touch your car. Then you are good to go.

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chmercer

why would you say that?

it should be good for a while as long as you get a decent tune on the safc and retard the timing. 1 degree per 2psi boost is what i do.

Irukandji

You sir, are retarded.

Plenty of people have run 14-18 psi on a stock headgasket...
Yeah it's not smart, but you won't blow a HG within a month....
If you go on ka-t.org you'll see more than half the members there still have the stock headgasket while running around 8-10 psi on a t25.

Neg rep for you

nosajton

i got a KA-T w/arias pistons and a stock oem nissan head gasket. i push 20psi daily.

head gaskets only blow when you overheat or in some circumstances, detonate.

the key to any KA-T is tuning. if you retard the timing and have a safc, you'll be fine

skate07

with 125k on that headgasket? like i said, im talking from experience..

and 14-18 psi on an oem headgasket i'd have to literally see someone install it, and run it for "said" ammount of time... to believe it

in my experience, stock HG held 12 for like 4 days. but thats a fact , because it happened. so ..


i myself am KAT, and in no way am i hating, because i believe in the motor as well, but we also blew an SCE gasket within a month on a 34 psi 511 rwhp s13... the fact of the matter is that its hit or miss...


dude, take it for what its worth, im speaking from experience, not saying that you arent, im simply calling it like i saw it..

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arkive43

that set up is very mild. daily no prob.

im gona do something similar cept with a t28,sr injectors,z32 maf,w255lt fpump, fmic....

i would suggest checking compression and makin sure ur motor is ok to handle boost.like skate said his motor blew.all ka's are diffrent, better safe that sorry.

projectRDM

And your experience means more than anyone else's?

Over seven years ago, before anyone was doing the basic setups now, I helped with a topmount T3/T4 setup on a 20k mile KA. Cobra MAF, 550s, a JWT ECU, and custom built piping, that car ran for three years daily at 14psi, never had any problems until it ran hot one night and lightly damaged the HG. This of course was due to driver error, not a fault in the engine. TY Yap's KA-T also saw several years at 14psi with numerous track events before failing. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Your thoughts that the HG will fail, regardless of boost level, is ignorant. A well treated engine, tuned properly with efficient cooling will last as long as a stock NA engine, turbo or not, no matter how many miles.

mayco_86

Thats true skate07 is saying nothing but the truth. My friend blew his shit in less than a week.

JDS Performance

Sounds like you might wanna check out my DVD?
check it out; http://www.KA24DETDVD.org
I use to sponsor this site, and had a sticky of this - not sure what happened to that?

also FYI if you are going to stay at 6-7 psi you "might" not even need any retard - its all about "knocking & pinging"

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NemeGuero

'cuz your friend is lame.

Just 'cuz you guys suck at building ka-ts doesn't mean that all ka-ts won't last.

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projectRDM

Bingo. Just because some worthless fucktard clod builds an engine and blows it up in a week that doesn't mean we'll all do it.

"hey guys, my car is overheating and knocking like fuck, let's go drifting"

"wait, why'd it blow a headgasket?"

sidewaysca18det

i know a guy with a ka-t t3/04 turbo 550cc's i beleive and 18psi on stock internals.... well tuned.. runs 11.5-10.8 at the track all day long

Irukandji

Theres a video on youtube of a red s14 running around 550whp on stock headgasket, stock internals and the whole shebang.

buku_points

yea i plan on using this set-up for track and daily driven, ive had freinds with ka-t last over a year but due to driver error, the motor ceased. im hoping to get the ka-t done within the next 2 weeks, ill post up my reports to let you guys know.

JDS Performance

tuning is "key" on the KA-T's!

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projectRDM

You mean you can't just slap a turbo on it and turn the boost up to 25psi? You just broke a lot of hearts man.

airsoft

Not necessarily, maybe it' will blow faster if the car has had an overheating issue before and it maybe shrunk or burnt the head gasket a bit making it less effective?

But a well taken care of motor without issues in its past can have a long and good healthy life with a turbo. You are of course adding one more element, but... it all depends, like most have said tuning.

So in conclusion: Who knows? every motor is different!

s13gold

afc isnt good enough to be reliable...

get a tune from enthalpy or jwt.

aznrib

Its all about the tune. With stock internals you'll be fine.

JDS Performance

why so you can run way rich all the time? pffffftttt on that!
get a AFC and wideband and street tune that baby - because its not like your just building a drag car - you need the street tune for stop and go traffic etc.

So yes tuning is "key"!

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blu808

The boost comes in and the connecting rods come out.

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