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Old 02-19-2002, 05:19 PM   #1
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K, time to replace those cheapass Federals the dealership put on. Anybody have recommendations on tire size for my daily driver? Those on it now are 195/60HR15. I don't know that much about tires (they're the rubber things that touch the ground, right? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>), and would primarily like something a bit wider than what's on there now. It's too easy to spin the rear tires at the moment.
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Old 02-19-2002, 05:22 PM   #2
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Oh, I do plan on starting some of my performance upgrades this season, might go autocross as well if time permits. Won't be anything extensive (would just be starting). So keep that in mind. Thankee for the help! :-)
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Old 02-19-2002, 06:30 PM   #3
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The optional handling package for the SE featured 205/60/15 size tires on the 15x6 wheel. I would suggest this size as it provides a good footprint with out leaving the sidewalls to bulge and have a mushy feel.
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Old 02-21-2002, 10:01 PM   #4
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hmm, anybody know what else was part of this handling package? LSD perhaps? :-) If so, I'mma borrow my sister's car for a bit next month. She won't notice the difference :-)
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Old 02-21-2002, 10:09 PM   #5
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you can go 215 on the width, and 55-50 on the sidewall and it should be fine? &nbsp;going on other posters though. &nbsp;Sure someone will chime in. &nbsp;Handling package on the S13 had Hicas, and LSD. &nbsp;
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Old 02-21-2002, 10:19 PM   #6
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I wouldn't put 215's on a 6&quot; wheel. &nbsp;Go with a good set of 205/55/15 performance tires. &nbsp;A good performance tire will get more traction than a crappy cheap all-season tire even if they're the same size.
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Old 02-22-2002, 12:20 AM   #7
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you can put 215's on a 6'' wheel, ####, you can put 225's on, i did, it'll fit, it's not optimal, but if you're going to get wider wheels in the future as i am, you can do it, it'll still improve handling significantly
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Old 02-22-2002, 09:28 PM   #8
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I will follow Lance's advice, 'cause he's got a good looking car.

HICAS didn't come out untill '91. From what I checked into, the Sport Package for the 89 and 90 is better tires and a stiffer suspension setup than the standard SE. This is from a scanned Nissan brochure on the socal 240sx car club site. . .

I'm still going to check it out when possible
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Old 02-22-2002, 11:28 PM   #9
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from misnomer on 10:28 pm on Feb. 22, 2002
I will follow Lance's advice, 'cause he's got a good looking car.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
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tnord, you could fit 225's on a 6&quot; rim and it might give you more straightline traction. &nbsp;But the tire is gonna be a good 3&quot; wider than the rim...that's gonna allow for alot of sidewall flex, and lateral traction will ultimately suffer.
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Old 02-23-2002, 09:27 AM   #10
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205/60/15 &nbsp;Yokohama AVS db's
That's what I'm getting in spring. &nbsp;CAnt' afford rims so these will have to do for now.

Don't wanna go 205/55/15 cause it'll leave too much gap in the fender.
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Old 02-23-2002, 10:24 AM   #11
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195/60 have a 24.2&quot; Diameter
205/55 have a 23.9&quot; Diameter (.3&quot; shorter...so you gain .15&quot; of wheel gap/loose .15&quot; of sidewall)
205/60 have a 24.7&quot; Diameter (.5&quot; taller...so you loose .25&quot; of wheel gap/gain .25&quot; of sidewall)
Either one will work...if you want a tad less wheel gap, get the 60's; if you want a tad less sidewall, get the 55's. Neither will probably be a terribly noticeable difference.

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Old 02-23-2002, 03:33 PM   #12
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lance.......i'm aware of the sidewall flex issue, that's why wheels are next on my list of things to buy, and after the crappy General XP all season tires, trust me, cornering is much better, and it will be better still when i get the kosei's
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Old 02-23-2002, 05:06 PM   #13
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What's the reccomended sizing for a 16x7.5 wheel?
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Old 02-23-2002, 05:20 PM   #14
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I recommend 225/45/16's.
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Old 02-23-2002, 05:23 PM   #15
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Cool, that's what I was looking at. I'd be about 2 mph off at 60 miles per hour with those right?
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Old 02-23-2002, 06:08 PM   #16
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nope...you'll be off my 0.6 mph...big whoop.
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Old 02-23-2002, 08:59 PM   #17
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I would recommend Dayton Daytona, sporty looking without going overboard. Excellent handling too. &nbsp;Oh, and definitely get the wider tires.

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Old 02-23-2002, 11:12 PM   #18
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from jmharr on 9:59 pm on Feb. 23, 2002
I would recommend Dayton Daytona, sporty looking without going overboard. Excellent handling too. Oh, and definitely get the wider tires.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Is this statement based solely on looks?
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Old 02-24-2002, 02:29 AM   #19
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how in the world does a tire look sporty?
they're all black
it's much sportier to go fast then to just look fast
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Haven't you guys seen the ads where they talk about the tread pattern and how it looks sporty. &nbsp;The whole point of those cheap off brand &quot;high-performance&quot; tires is they have a sporty looking tread. &nbsp;Everybopdy who has driven them and compares them to a bridgestone, michelin or something comparable says they are worse, but they were a lot cheaper. &nbsp;I would stick to a top brand and get a tire that is like 1 or 2 steps below top of the line. &nbsp;I had the Bridgestone Potenza RE-730s before and really like them. &nbsp;Of course if I had a Ferrari or a Porsche I would get the top of the line tires, just cause. &nbsp;Oh and definatly DON'T get the wider tires on stock rims it will not look good and it won't be as nice. &nbsp;Tire rack lists recomended rim widths for almost every tire they sell, I always try to stay in the middle of that.
tnord, obviously you can put wider tires on the stock wheels, but if you are getting new wheels then wouldn't you get new tires too? &nbsp;I just can't forsee getting tires now for the wheels I am going to get in the future. &nbsp;If I get new wheels they will be a different diameter anyway, what's the point if you aren't going to change something significant, I'm sure the stock wheel work just fine, they are just too small for me.
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from LanceS13 on 6:20 pm on Feb. 23, 2002
I recommend 225/45/16's.
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Wouldn't 50 or 55 series tires be closer to stock diameter? Or is the difference in sidewall flex worth the speedo error?
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Old 02-24-2002, 09:57 PM   #22
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No, my suggestion was not based solely on looks. &nbsp;I shopped around for tires about six months before deciding on those. &nbsp;I do a lot of driving on curvey and hilly highways and since the 240 is so crappy on wet roads I wanted to get the best tire. &nbsp;Dayton's are by no means cheap off-brand tires that only look good. &nbsp;By sporty I mean they don't look like touring tires, #### guys.
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Old 02-24-2002, 11:54 PM   #23
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No DuffMan, the 45's are 2/10 of an inch shorter while the 50's are 3/10 taller...and 55's are just way too big.

jmharr, no offense was meant. It just looked like you were basing your statement on looks because you said they looked sporty and you said go with the wider tires, the only &quot;plus&quot; of which is to look more aggressive b/c performance isn't gonna be any better than if you went with the correct size...probably worse. &nbsp;If you're driving on hilly, curvey roads get the right size tire. &nbsp;And wide tires aren't gonna do a #### thing for wet performance.

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