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[GoaTSLonG] · 07-14-2008, 12:03 PM

I'm an sr20 guy and have always used either an enthalpy tune or a power FC on my high powered s13's and an SAFC on my first s13 that was only running a t28 and 550's. I have been out of the Nissan loop for a couple years and I just picked up a 70k mile s14 and I'm gonna do my first KA-T. I'm gonna go with the JGS kit with the .48 turbine looking to make around 325whp low boost 375whp high boost. Meanwhile I'm gonna be building my spare KA and saving for a gt30r. anyways i'm rambling. I just wanna know what is everyone using for fuel management on a 350whp~ ka24de-t. Looking at the greddy e-manage but was wondering if a SAFC Neo would be sufficient until i put in the built motor and went standalone? Car will be daily driven and beat on, on the weekends. Any suggestions/experience welcomed

UNISA JECS · 07-14-2008, 12:11 PM

http://www.nistune.com/ read the FAQ it'll answer all your questions.

This is what I just recently purchased and it kicks ass...

[GoaTSLonG] · 07-14-2008, 12:23 PM

so that is sort of like hondata? I wonder if anyone in NY would know how to tune that or has any experience doing so?

UNISA JECS · 07-14-2008, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [GoaTSLonG]

so that is sort of like hondata? I wonder if anyone in NY would know how to tune that or has any experience doing so?

Yea somewhat like Hondata....check the workshop link on the website and see if there is a tuner in yoru area.

[GoaTSLonG] · 07-14-2008, 12:45 PM

no tuners any where near me

murda-c · 07-14-2008, 12:48 PM

Nistune doesn't work for s14s does it?

UNISA JECS · 07-14-2008, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murda-c

Nistune doesn't work for s14s does it?

They now have the Type 4 board, so yes it does:

http://www.nistune.com/docs/NIStune_...stallation.pdf

murda-c · 07-14-2008, 12:57 PM

^^^shweet.

gotta240 · 07-14-2008, 01:18 PM

that is. Has anyone actually used it though?

I didn't see a cost either.

MangoDorifto · 07-14-2008, 03:55 PM

Unisa Jecs is currently using NIStune on his s13 KA-T with great success. I plan on ordering mine for my S14 SR20DET very soon. It hasn't quiet caught on yet, but I'm sure it will as the word spreads!

Prices range from $400 for Type 1&2 and $420 for Type 3&4. That includes daughterboard and tuning software. You'll also need a Consult data cable which goes for $100 for serial or $110 for USB. So your looking at about $550 shipped to turn your stock ecu into a complete standalone unit. With the money saved, I can afford a new intake manifold, top feed injectors and fuel rail setup!

lflkajfj12123 · 07-14-2008, 04:18 PM

people make the same horsepower on a ka-t with a t28

and they use like ebay manifolds and crap haha

why not save yourself money for now until you upgrade and piece together a kit

fromxtor · 07-14-2008, 04:52 PM

ECU tune period.

UNISA JECS · 07-14-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MangoDorifto

Unisa Jecs is currently using NIStune on his s13 KA-T with great success. I plan on ordering mine for my S14 SR20DET very soon. It hasn't quiet caught on yet, but I'm sure it will as the word spreads!

Prices range from $400 for Type 1&2 and $420 for Type 3&4. That includes daughterboard and tuning software. You'll also need a Consult data cable which goes for $100 for serial or $110 for USB. So your looking at about $550 shipped to turn your stock ecu into a complete standalone unit. With the money saved, I can afford a new intake manifold, top feed injectors and fuel rail setup!

I sure am

......I paid 566.65 US currency for teh following

Nistune Individual License
Nistune Type 3 board
Board Installed (was free becasue they didn't have my stock .bin yet)
Consult Cable
EMS shipping (the most expensive they offer)

***S14DB*** · 07-14-2008, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNISA JECS

They now have the Type 4 board, so yes it does:

http://www.nistune.com/docs/NIStune_...stallation.pdf

I haven't seen the Type 4 being for sale.

chuy · 07-14-2008, 06:49 PM

Ive been looking at Nistune also. I am selling my Emanage Ultimate to pay for it. But Im wondering cause I have an S-14 OBII ecu so Ive been watching the type 4 Board. I am still going to get it though. Seems really easy to set up also.

UNISA JECS · 07-14-2008, 07:17 PM

Type 4 Board is listed at $240

http://www.nistune.com/ordering.htm

chuy · 07-14-2008, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNISA JECS

Type 4 Board is listed at $240

http://www.nistune.com/ordering.htm

but thats in Australia $ which is still almost 1 for 1.

soreballz · 07-14-2008, 09:26 PM

Any way to make this work if your Consult doesn't function? (Car was SOHC, swapped to DOHC and lost the ability to use it.)

hitman · 07-14-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soreballz

Any way to make this work if your Consult doesn't function? (Car was SOHC, swapped to DOHC and lost the ability to use it.)

you can wire a consult plug right into the ecu. jim wolf had to do it to my car teh day before asb since i either took mine out or lost it or something when i rerouted my body harness. now my consult plug comes right out of my ecu.

MangoDorifto · 07-15-2008, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soreballz

Any way to make this work if your Consult doesn't function? (Car was SOHC, swapped to DOHC and lost the ability to use it.)

Yup, you'll just have to wire in another consult port into the ecu harness. This link is for an SR but finding the wiring diagram for the KA24DE shouldn't be too hard.

http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/sr_s...6.consult_port

07-14-2008, 12:03 PM	#1
[GoaTSLonG] Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 311 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Fuel management reccomendation for a KA-T I'm an sr20 guy and have always used either an enthalpy tune or a power FC on my high powered s13's and an SAFC on my first s13 that was only running a t28 and 550's. I have been out of the Nissan loop for a couple years and I just picked up a 70k mile s14 and I'm gonna do my first KA-T. I'm gonna go with the JGS kit with the .48 turbine looking to make around 325whp low boost 375whp high boost. Meanwhile I'm gonna be building my spare KA and saving for a gt30r. anyways i'm rambling. I just wanna know what is everyone using for fuel management on a 350whp~ ka24de-t. Looking at the greddy e-manage but was wondering if a SAFC Neo would be sufficient until i put in the built motor and went standalone? Car will be daily driven and beat on, on the weekends. Any suggestions/experience welcomed __________________ WRECKED.

07-14-2008, 12:11 PM	#2
UNISA JECS Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 42 Posts: 2,372 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	http://www.nistune.com/ read the FAQ it'll answer all your questions. This is what I just recently purchased and it kicks ass... __________________ PARTS 4 SALE !! Z32 E-Brake/Parking Brake Heatshield Assemblys!!! *Rep/Feedbacks*

07-14-2008, 12:23 PM	#3
[GoaTSLonG] Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 311 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	so that is sort of like hondata? I wonder if anyone in NY would know how to tune that or has any experience doing so? __________________ WRECKED.

07-14-2008, 12:45 PM	#5
[GoaTSLonG] Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 311 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	no tuners any where near me __________________ WRECKED.

07-14-2008, 12:48 PM	#6
murda-c Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery County, MD Age: 33 Posts: 3,197 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nistune doesn't work for s14s does it? __________________

07-14-2008, 12:57 PM	#8
murda-c Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery County, MD Age: 33 Posts: 3,197 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^^^shweet. __________________

07-14-2008, 01:18 PM	#9
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	that is. Has anyone actually used it though? I didn't see a cost either.

07-14-2008, 03:55 PM	#10
MangoDorifto Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 113 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Unisa Jecs is currently using NIStune on his s13 KA-T with great success. I plan on ordering mine for my S14 SR20DET very soon. It hasn't quiet caught on yet, but I'm sure it will as the word spreads! Prices range from $400 for Type 1&2 and $420 for Type 3&4. That includes daughterboard and tuning software. You'll also need a Consult data cable which goes for $100 for serial or $110 for USB. So your looking at about $550 shipped to turn your stock ecu into a complete standalone unit. With the money saved, I can afford a new intake manifold, top feed injectors and fuel rail setup!

07-14-2008, 04:18 PM	#11
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	people make the same horsepower on a ka-t with a t28 and they use like ebay manifolds and crap haha why not save yourself money for now until you upgrade and piece together a kit

07-14-2008, 04:52 PM	#12
fromxtor Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NC Age: 40 Posts: 3,012 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	ECU tune period. __________________ Seller feedback>>http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...light=fromxtor

07-14-2008, 06:49 PM	#15
chuy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado some where Age: 44 Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Ive been looking at Nistune also. I am selling my Emanage Ultimate to pay for it. But Im wondering cause I have an S-14 OBII ecu so Ive been watching the type 4 Board. I am still going to get it though. Seems really easy to set up also. __________________ Slide Happy

07-14-2008, 07:17 PM	#16
UNISA JECS Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Socal Fontana Age: 42 Posts: 2,372 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	Type 4 Board is listed at $240 http://www.nistune.com/ordering.htm __________________ PARTS 4 SALE !! Z32 E-Brake/Parking Brake Heatshield Assemblys!!! *Rep/Feedbacks*

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