JDMJNKY

I agree. My error.

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blownmotor

The 5.0 is direct injected also.

Prime

Wrong. Direct injection is "protected" in the engines design. That means it can be added later without re-engineering. The motor as it comes from Ford is port injected, not direct.

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Pictures of a cutaway showing the casting area where DI can be added.
2011 Mustang Engine - Fuel System and Boost Capability - Hot Rod Magazine
Article explicitly stating what I said above.

blownmotor

That sucks

lewisfk

I own a Ford F-150 Ecoboost and I just hit 5,500 miles. My gas mileage improved after 4000 or so miles. I towed my boys car to Corona, Ca. My total weight towing was 5-5.5k, I average 15.8mpg. In my eyes that is great, due to the hills and bull shit stop and go traffic on the 15. I started to shop for aftermarket parts, but there far and between. Most void warranty or dont work. I read about a guy who through more timing at the truck and improved the spark, he says he netted an extra 12tq, 16hp. I want a dyno sheet before I do that. His truck has 80k miles and is 2010. First gen Ecoboost.

simmode1

Bump! It's been about 5 years since this motor was released and the swaps have begun. 435whp & 500ft/lbs sounds pretty nice for just a tune. Anyone thinking of swapping one into S-Chassis or Z?

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turbronegro

Lol at everyone saying the motor was going to be a huge failure 6 years ago.

exitspeed

My stance is the same as the beginning of the thread.

Anyone know what these are going for? Is it worth it as a swap over a LS? Curious.

My cousin has anFovus ST pushing 300hp to the wheels. I'm impressed still.

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lewisfk

I still have my truck and I plan on keeping it until the disel version is out for 2 years. If that version sells the 3.5 low compression engine will decrease even more. 2018 Raptor has a H.O. engine and better timming chain and internals.

turbronegro

I'm trying to wait and see what the diesel f150 is about. Can't buy a first year.

midnightreaction

i reeeeally want a new ecoboost raptor, but they are so expensive

simmode1

Just looked on ebay, saw a bunch of the 3.5TT for under $3k. Crate engine is $8.4k.

Christ. I just saw a 15k mileage 2.3t listed for $2100. Fuck an SR at that price.

Not gonna lie, been dreaming of different cars to swap the 4 bangers into. Can you imagine the Z32 with the 2.3t? Power like the VG30DETT, but probably 200lbs+ lighter and simpler.

I think these engines might become to preferred swap of the future. There are over a million of these motors in circulation right now.

Ford's already getting ready to update the 3.5TT with even more power since the recent 2.7TT was apparently overperforming.

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exitspeed

Sounds like a shop needs to get busy on a swap kit package.

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lewisfk

If you still watch Auto Nation on Spike they did a Ecoboost swap into a f100. The company makes other swap parts but I would only be concern about the ecu options and a/c.

lunchmeat

Classic Recreations is putting the v6tt and 2.3t eb in 60s mustangs.

d9m13n

How much info is there on tuning these engines? Is it still mostly out of the box tunes and the odd shop build or is there some real in depth stuff about how much power the block/internals can take, weak points, etc? Its easy to see the potential of the 2.3 and 2.7/3.5 in an s-chassis. Could be a new generation of sr/rb swaps if theyre as receptive to tuning as the old stuff

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lewisfk

Gas Monkey has info they dropped it into a Pantera, and spoke with Ford about the ecu. They also upgraded the turbos

simmode1

Well, there is already a 9 sec Ecoboost Mustang, so I'd say they probably have plenty of support.

Not sure about the 3.5tt. I did see i post where ppl where complaining about not having a better intake manifold offered by the aftermarket yet & there not being much support since it's not in a sports car originally. But isn't the 3.5tt a detuned version of what's in the Ford GT though?

Oh btw...i was wrong about there being a million Ecoboost motors floating around. There's at least 5 million of them.

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driftsucky

Not for nothing, but the ecoboost is in almost EVERYTHING ford sells, in one form or another. Fiesta, Focus (2), Fusion(3), Taurus, Mustang, Escape(2), Edge, Explorer (2), Flex, F-150 (2ish), and GT all have ecoboost motors. I think even the Transits are getting them for 17. And they range, in displacement, from 1.3 up to 3.5. So, you've got plenty of them floating around. Take your pic.

Hopefully with the two most popular ecoboost motors being in the Focus, some more aftermarket support will pop for them. ONly time will tell.

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turbronegro

Are they no longer making the 1.0 ecoboost?

drift freaq

Wait till you see the 1.5 3 cylinder Ecoboost 2018 Fiesta ST engine that's gonna put out mor HP and TQ than the current 1.6 4.

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lewisfk

I use to work at PepBoys in Gretna LA, aka the Westbank of New Orleans, and the Transit vans do come with the Ecoboost engine. This was last AUG 2016. I had a hard time trying to see how they did it without overheating the engine in commercial application but they did.

feito

why is that?

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lewisfk

Everything is tucked under the cab and seemed so cramped together. This was the first time I dealt with this engine layout. The vehicle lacked a good size intercooler as well.

feito

Radiators and cooling fans have come a long way. This, mixed with more technologically advanced turbos that stay cooler I'm sure has a lot to do with it. I laugh everytime I see a water-cooled turbo with its water lines not being used, that shit makes the heck of a difference. Air charge coolers (aka intercoolers) have also come a long way, and most of the times are cooled by the same fan that cools the radiator (and sometimes oil cooler too). The rest is pretty much left to the ducting, wherever the engine is mounted.
In fact, I dare to say that in many cases, people who change their radiators/intercoolers for a "high performance" one, they're actually downgrading, I say again, MANY CASES...
But back in topic and about this engine, mehhh.... It does look like it's a great engine and all, but I think Im going backwards and turning more into a purist, so Im just gonna sit back and watch you guys have all the fun.

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simmode1

So what Ecoboost swapped cars are you guys most looking forward to seeing or hoping for a swap kit?

I wanna see:
2.0t MR2
2.3t & 3.5tt Z32
2.3t RX8

Naturally want to see some in 240's too.

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simmode1

Yeah, i was looking for production number data for each Ecoboost engine but these things are so plentiful, what's the point? They're going to be all over salvage yards soon.

The era of the LS is coming to an end.
Ecoboost all the things!!! Lol

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Standard

I wrench on these things at work everyday and I'm not excited about them like you guys are lol
Not saying they're bad engines, but from my experience the front/awd engines have many flaws. Seeing oil leaking from the turbo, trans fluid seeping from the axle seals, etc, is commonplace at low mileage. I'm talking 20-40k

The rwd/4wd engines seem better, had a modified ecoboost f-150 in the other day that was pretty badass, and pushing good numbers from what the owner claimed

simmode1

Ahhh, that's good to know. That may be why the 1st gen 2.0t only lasted 4 years before it was completely replaced & why they're dropping a new 3.5tt...

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