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Peter_North · 12-19-2007, 05:57 PM

Hey I'm about to lower my car with probably some drop springs ( I cant afford coilovers or even used coilovers at this time, the car is also a DD ) and I was wondering how much it would cost to get them installed? Or is it easy enough for somebody to do it theirself? The ones I'm looking at are 1.7 inch drop, could my stock suspension handle that? Thanks.

Full-Lock · 12-19-2007, 06:00 PM

lol
just do it yourself. shit is easy

**ThatGuy** · 12-19-2007, 06:03 PM

Stop spending all your time collecting Red tic-tacs of Rep and get your hands dirty. DO NOT pay someone to swap in springs for you. Do the research, rent the tools, do it yourself.

nissan240sxkid · 12-19-2007, 06:07 PM

spring compressor is a must for your firt time...always use protection

Peter_North · 12-19-2007, 06:11 PM

Ok I guess I'll have to do it myself but I barely know how to do an oil change

slothonaleash · 12-19-2007, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_North

The ones I'm looking at are 1.7 inch drop, could my stock suspension handle that?

no, no, as a matter of fact, it cannot

Peter_North · 12-19-2007, 06:12 PM

[quote=slothonaleash;1721256][quote=Peter_North;1721224]1.7 inch drop, could my stock suspension handle that?

Quote:

no, no, as a matter of fact, it cannot

How much then? And why can't it handle it?

slothonaleash · 12-19-2007, 06:15 PM

none... dropping your stock shocks can cause them to blow....and they probably will... which will make you handle like complete shit

and you may die in a fiery explosion

if you're thinking about lowering springs on stock shocks, you might as well cut your springs....at least it's free shittiness

arkive43 · 12-19-2007, 06:16 PM

disreguard that, most drop springs will yeild a 1.5 too 2 inch drop very subtle.the shock thing is true but yea lol not that extreme. as far as the work goes it is very simple....im sure there is a write up online....

***S14DB*** · 12-19-2007, 06:17 PM

Stock shocks are prolly blown or will blow with that drop. Buy some new shocks that can handle a drop.

Peter_North · 12-19-2007, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arkive43

disreguard that, most drop springs will yeild a 1.5 too 2 inch drop very subtle. as far as the work goes it is very simple....im sure there is a write up online....

Thanks

......

Peter_North · 12-19-2007, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Stock shocks are prolly blown or will blow with that drop. Buy some new shocks that can handle a drop.

Would buying coilovers just be cheaper?

eastcoastS14 · 12-19-2007, 06:19 PM

save your money, do it right

/thread

slothonaleash · 12-19-2007, 06:19 PM

yes....don't half ass your suspension...it's basically what keeps your car on the road

save up for a spring/shock combination or coilovers

Peter_North · 12-19-2007, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slothonaleash

yes....don't half ass your suspension...it's basically what keeps your car on the road

save up for a spring/shock combination or coilovers

Damn I guess thats what im going to do then, thanks for the help all.

frosty_the_iceman · 12-19-2007, 06:30 PM

Definitely do it yourself. I'd never worked on a car in my life before I got my S13. Do yourself a favor and invest in tools, a jack and stands. The first time you need to fix something and you don't have to go to a mechanic, they'll pay for themselves.

You'll want a FSM:
http://www.240edge.com/manuals/usdm-cars.html
Which tells you all kinds of useful info.

For your struts & springs install, go to:
http://importnut.net/240springstrut.htm
He's got a neat writeup.

I'd recommend going with Eibach springs (pro-line or sport-line, it's up to you). You can get a great deal on KYB AGX shocks, which are highly decent, or get the GR-2's if you really can't spring an extra $100. GR-2's are a stock replacement, but they will hold up under the increased stress of lowering springs a lot better than your OEM's.

I'd look on (dare I say it) eBay for a great deal on brand new springs (~$200) and struts(~$250-350). Don't EVER buy used suspension. I'm sure there's exceptions, but that's my experience and opinion.

Hopefully that helped you out a bit...

wonkuuzenki · 12-19-2007, 06:32 PM

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Edited by me for not helping the zilvia community.

SW20Racer · 12-19-2007, 06:50 PM

it will be cheaper to just buy coilovers. think about it, you buy lowering springs, blow your shocks, buy new shocks, they wear out. so on and so forth. by the time you wasted your time on this bullshit you couldve afforded a set of decent NEW coilovers. i wouldnt buy used coilovers if they were the last set on earth i dont trust that shit. (not saying people who buy used are not happy with what they have or that you cant have them rebuilt et c., its just a personal preference)

txrxs · 12-19-2007, 07:01 PM

Step one: Jack the rear of the car up by the differential

Step two: Put a jackstand under tow hook to support the car(remove jack from differential)

Step three: Remove passenger side rear wheel.

Step four: Slide under car and push up on the subframe(this will be very hard so you must get under the car, make sure your chest is about even with the brake rotor.) Hold this up, now is where you need a friends help.

Step five: Have your friend kick the jackstand out from the tow hook.

imnotmatt1189 · 12-19-2007, 07:15 PM

^ AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

--edit

it's really easy to install springs/shocks. don't pay for them to get installed. i payed to get them installed on my accord and then a month later, i helped my friend out in installing springs on his integra and realized that i wasted $160 getting them professionally installed. save your money.

posdriftin · 12-19-2007, 08:41 PM

man comment 19 had me rolling... lowering springs without shocks are gonna be useless, as said earlier, save and get some megans or something (just no ebay stuff)...

GoodOl'S13 · 12-19-2007, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txrxs

Step one: Jack the rear of the car up by the differential

Step two: Put a jackstand under tow hook to support the car(remove jack from differential)

Step three: Remove passenger side rear wheel.

Step four: Slide under car and push up on the subframe(this will be very hard so you must get under the car, make sure your chest is about even with the brake rotor.) Hold this up, now is where you need a friends help.

Step five: Have your friend kick the jackstand out from the tow hook.

Zilvia at its BEST

BBSilvia · 12-19-2007, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txrxs

Step one: Jack the rear of the car up by the differential

Step two: Put a jackstand under tow hook to support the car(remove jack from differential)

Step three: Remove passenger side rear wheel.

Step four: Slide under car and push up on the subframe(this will be very hard so you must get under the car, make sure your chest is about even with the brake rotor.) Hold this up, now is where you need a friends help.

Step five: Have your friend kick the jackstand out from the tow hook.

hahahahahaha

GabeS14 · 12-19-2007, 09:59 PM

The guy asked an honest question, he is not a fucking mechanic.
have some fucking respect!!!
If you are not going to help dont bash keep you mouth shut and stay off the thread.
by the way read the sticky before going into someones thread and saying they fail or just bashing.
you will be pinked or banned if you are reported and keep doing it!
Mods have said it multiple times if you have nothing usefull to say , just stay out and dont fill the thread up with useless garbage, YOU DONT LOOK COOL BY BASHING SOMEONE ONLINE!
just shows how much of a pussy nerd you are!

GabeS14 · 12-19-2007, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_North

Hey I'm about to lower my car with probably some drop springs ( I cant afford coilovers or even used coilovers at this time, the car is also a DD ) and I was wondering how much it would cost to get them installed? Or is it easy enough for somebody to do it theirself? The ones I'm looking at are 1.7 inch drop, could my stock suspension handle that? Thanks.

By the way, what car and year do you have.
I am selling my shocks and springs(combo)
.and if you look here on zilvia in the for sale thread you may be able to get a good deal!

5t341tH · 12-19-2007, 10:32 PM

go rent a spring compressor at autozone for 41 dollar deposit.
compress ur old springs with compressor
disassemble the shock
take new spring and compress
put it shock tophat and tighten
done
smile

Chernobyl · 12-19-2007, 10:36 PM

My personal opinion is to get the springs and pay a shop to install. Should be about $100 of work I think.

If you really don't know your way around the car yet, pay a pro to do it and save yourself the headache.

This coming from someone who's never taken their car to a shop. Ever. But then again, I like to wrench on my stuff, and you might not.

Lurpin · 12-19-2007, 11:28 PM

I think you should save up for coilovers. Start hanging out at your local shop, and make friends with the mechanics. Maybe you can learn some stuff from them. It's way easier to learn stuff if your friends are teaching you.

Peter_North · 12-20-2007, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txrxs

Step one: Jack the rear of the car up by the differential

Step two: Put a jackstand under tow hook to support the car(remove jack from differential)

Step three: Remove passenger side rear wheel.

Step four: Slide under car and push up on the subframe(this will be very hard so you must get under the car, make sure your chest is about even with the brake rotor.) Hold this up, now is where you need a friends help.

Step five: Have your friend kick the jackstand out from the tow hook.

Wow I bet you're cool in real life

Irukandji · 12-20-2007, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txrxs

Step one: Jack the rear of the car up by the differential

Step two: Put a jackstand under tow hook to support the car(remove jack from differential)

Step three: Remove passenger side rear wheel.

Step four: Slide under car and push up on the subframe(this will be very hard so you must get under the car, make sure your chest is about even with the brake rotor.) Hold this up, now is where you need a friends help.

Step five: Have your friend kick the jackstand out from the tow hook.

You're the reason why zilvia is going down the shitter.
Congrats

12-19-2007, 05:57 PM	#1
Peter_North Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ur girl house Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Lowering searched Hey I'm about to lower my car with probably some drop springs ( I cant afford coilovers or even used coilovers at this time, the car is also a DD ) and I was wondering how much it would cost to get them installed? Or is it easy enough for somebody to do it theirself? The ones I'm looking at are 1.7 inch drop, could my stock suspension handle that? Thanks. __________________ 1992 240sx fastback

12-19-2007, 06:00 PM	#2
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	lol just do it yourself. shit is easy __________________

12-19-2007, 06:03 PM	#3
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stop spending all your time collecting Red tic-tacs of Rep and get your hands dirty. DO NOT pay someone to swap in springs for you. Do the research, rent the tools, do it yourself. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

12-19-2007, 06:11 PM	#5
Peter_North Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ur girl house Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok I guess I'll have to do it myself but I barely know how to do an oil change __________________ 1992 240sx fastback

12-19-2007, 06:17 PM	#10
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Stock shocks are prolly blown or will blow with that drop. Buy some new shocks that can handle a drop. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

12-19-2007, 06:07 PM	#4
nissan240sxkid Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 211 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	spring compressor is a must for your firt time...always use protection

12-19-2007, 06:15 PM	#8
slothonaleash Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 29 Posts: 745 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	none... dropping your stock shocks can cause them to blow....and they probably will... which will make you handle like complete shit and you may die in a fiery explosion if you're thinking about lowering springs on stock shocks, you might as well cut your springs....at least it's free shittiness

12-19-2007, 06:16 PM	#9
arkive43 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: houston Age: 38 Posts: 795 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	disreguard that, most drop springs will yeild a 1.5 too 2 inch drop very subtle.the shock thing is true but yea lol not that extreme. as far as the work goes it is very simple....im sure there is a write up online....

12-19-2007, 06:19 PM	#13
eastcoastS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the land of snow potholes and no tracks Posts: 3,984 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	save your money, do it right /thread

12-19-2007, 06:30 PM	#16
frosty_the_iceman Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Definitely do it yourself. I'd never worked on a car in my life before I got my S13. Do yourself a favor and invest in tools, a jack and stands. The first time you need to fix something and you don't have to go to a mechanic, they'll pay for themselves. You'll want a FSM: http://www.240edge.com/manuals/usdm-cars.html Which tells you all kinds of useful info. For your struts & springs install, go to: http://importnut.net/240springstrut.htm He's got a neat writeup. I'd recommend going with Eibach springs (pro-line or sport-line, it's up to you). You can get a great deal on KYB AGX shocks, which are highly decent, or get the GR-2's if you really can't spring an extra $100. GR-2's are a stock replacement, but they will hold up under the increased stress of lowering springs a lot better than your OEM's. I'd look on (dare I say it) eBay for a great deal on brand new springs (~$200) and struts(~$250-350). Don't EVER buy used suspension. I'm sure there's exceptions, but that's my experience and opinion. Hopefully that helped you out a bit... Last edited by frosty_the_iceman; 12-19-2007 at 06:32 PM.. Reason: spelling

12-19-2007, 06:32 PM	#17
wonkuuzenki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: rio rancho, NM Posts: 312 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	................ Edited by me for not helping the zilvia community. __________________ *Function. Form.* Step Up Drift Club/Upper Limit!

12-19-2007, 06:50 PM	#18
SW20Racer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaumont Age: 36 Posts: 1,633 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it will be cheaper to just buy coilovers. think about it, you buy lowering springs, blow your shocks, buy new shocks, they wear out. so on and so forth. by the time you wasted your time on this bullshit you couldve afforded a set of decent NEW coilovers. i wouldnt buy used coilovers if they were the last set on earth i dont trust that shit. (not saying people who buy used are not happy with what they have or that you cant have them rebuilt et c., its just a personal preference)

12-19-2007, 07:01 PM	#19
txrxs Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 549 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Step one: Jack the rear of the car up by the differential Step two: Put a jackstand under tow hook to support the car(remove jack from differential) Step three: Remove passenger side rear wheel. Step four: Slide under car and push up on the subframe(this will be very hard so you must get under the car, make sure your chest is about even with the brake rotor.) Hold this up, now is where you need a friends help. Step five: Have your friend kick the jackstand out from the tow hook. __________________ DRIFTINDY

12-19-2007, 07:15 PM	#20
imnotmatt1189 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 1,118 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^ AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH --edit it's really easy to install springs/shocks. don't pay for them to get installed. i payed to get them installed on my accord and then a month later, i helped my friend out in installing springs on his integra and realized that i wasted $160 getting them professionally installed. save your money.

12-19-2007, 08:41 PM	#21
posdriftin Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: so cal...north ..sd... Posts: 832 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	man comment 19 had me rolling... lowering springs without shocks are gonna be useless, as said earlier, save and get some megans or something (just no ebay stuff)...

12-19-2007, 09:59 PM	#24
GabeS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sin City Las Vegas Posts: 4,521 Trader Rating: (27) Rides Gallery: GabeS14 Feedback Score: 27 reviews	The guy asked an honest question, he is not a fucking mechanic. have some fucking respect!!! If you are not going to help dont bash keep you mouth shut and stay off the thread. by the way read the sticky before going into someones thread and saying they fail or just bashing. you will be pinked or banned if you are reported and keep doing it! Mods have said it multiple times if you have nothing usefull to say , just stay out and dont fill the thread up with useless garbage, YOU DONT LOOK COOL BY BASHING SOMEONE ONLINE! just shows how much of a pussy nerd you are! __________________ E92 M3 19" wheels for sale///JWT Cams and Springs +30whp for sale... cheap.

12-19-2007, 10:32 PM	#26
5t341tH Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: socal (Huntington Beach) Age: 33 Posts: 2,776 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	go rent a spring compressor at autozone for 41 dollar deposit. compress ur old springs with compressor disassemble the shock take new spring and compress put it shock tophat and tighten done smile __________________ lexus baby

12-19-2007, 10:36 PM	#27
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 38 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	My personal opinion is to get the springs and pay a shop to install. Should be about $100 of work I think. If you really don't know your way around the car yet, pay a pro to do it and save yourself the headache. This coming from someone who's never taken their car to a shop. Ever. But then again, I like to wrench on my stuff, and you might not.

12-19-2007, 11:28 PM	#28
Lurpin Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Maui, Hawaii Posts: 118 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think you should save up for coilovers. Start hanging out at your local shop, and make friends with the mechanics. Maybe you can learn some stuff from them. It's way easier to learn stuff if your friends are teaching you. __________________

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