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xNotoriousGQx · 10-27-2002, 04:27 PM

Okay it's time to take my 240sx to the next level. Since no one bid on it on ebay. I decided to go turbo. There are 3 major turbo kits out there for the 95-98 240sx.  I can't de cide which one to get for my 97 240sx auto. I need suggestions and advice. The three kits are 1) XS engineering
2) F-Max kit 3)nsport. 4? Greddy (if it ever comes out). Which one produces the most hp for stage 1 kit? most reliable? price? price? best turbo kit overall?

saga240 · 10-27-2002, 04:44 PM

id say you email marty king about his opinions on the fmax kit.. he is the one that was recently selling his car with the stage 3 fmax kit with the auto tranny..

boosteds14 · 10-27-2002, 05:38 PM

i would defintly go with f-max. but because i sell them but i believe it is so reliable. plus with the JWT plug and boost ECU, its granted to give you the most reliable turbokit around.

I cant wait for greddy to get there kit out either.

Tictakman · 10-27-2002, 07:26 PM

boosted...how much are u looking to get for ur car?  is it manual?

Id also like to know everyones opinion on who makes the best turbo kit.  best bang for the buck and why!

later
Zak

S14lover · 10-27-2002, 07:56 PM

Dunno im torn between the Nsport and the F-Maxx i mean for the price the nsport package is great plus a guy i know(sounds funny) has an nsport and he loves it! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'>

boosteds14 · 10-27-2002, 08:15 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tictakman @ Oct. 27 2002,10:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">boosted...how much are u looking to get for ur car? is it manual?

Id also like to know everyones opinion on who makes the best turbo kit. best bang for the buck and why!

later
Zak</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
well i would sell the car with for $29k

its alot, but i am not looking to sell it right now. but i will if the price is right

xNotoriousGQx · 10-27-2002, 09:08 PM

Here's what each turbo kit comes with:

F-Max
FMAX HIGH-CARBON CAST-STEEL TURBO MANIFOLD
CLOSED-LOOP MANDREL BENT DOWNPIPE
INTERCOOLER PIPING
T3/T4E HYBRID TURBOCHARGER
DELTAGATE EXTERNAL WASTEGATE
INTERCOOLER
K&N AIR FILTER
HKS RACING BYPASS VALVE
JIM WOLF TECHNOLOGY ECU
NISSAN 370CC FUEL INJECTORS
PRICE ABOUT 4300 + shipping

NSPORT
Garrett T04B-R turbocharger
Cast iron exhaust manifold
Turbonetics Deltagate wastegate (7psi)
Downpipe
Bosch blow-off valve
Front mount intercooler and intercooler piping 24"x11"x2.75
Fuel Management Unit
Walbro in-tank replacement high-flow fuel pump
All related hoses, lines, clamps and miscellaneous hardware
PRICE ABOUT 4000 +shipping

XS Engineering
T3/T04 Hybrid turbocharger, rugged cast iron exhaust manifold, an external wastegate, a 2.75" intake and 2.25" intercooler piping, and HKS Super Mega Flow air filter, Vortech FMU, and all necessary oil lines and fasteners.
PRICE about 4000+shipping

Tictakman · 10-27-2002, 10:24 PM

ya thats out of my price range.

xNotoriousGQx- how much are u looking to get for ur car?is it manual.

Zak

*Jeff240sx* · 10-27-2002, 10:28 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tictakman @ Oct. 28 2002,12:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ya thats out of my price range.

xNotoriousGQx- how much are u looking to get for ur car?is it manual.

Zak</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Are you just trying to buy cars here?
-Jeff

Tictakman · 10-27-2002, 10:38 PM

no im just trying to find the right one!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

Zak

boosteds14 · 10-28-2002, 06:34 AM

here is the difference that you should look at the most:
FMAX:JIM WOLF TECHNOLOGY ECU
NSPORT:Fuel Management Unit
XS Engineering:Vortech FMU

plus nsport comes with a bosch BOV, come on. that is low budget

ATL S13 · 10-28-2002, 07:08 AM

Just so you know.. www.phase2motortrend.com has the nsport kit for 3900 and the XS kit for 3400.

xNotoriousGQx · 10-28-2002, 07:56 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tictakman @ Oct. 27 2002,01:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ya thats out of my price range.

xNotoriousGQx- how much are u looking to get for ur car?is it manual.

Zak</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Trying to get 11g.

Tictakman · 10-28-2002, 10:52 AM

damn, thats a little too much too.  oh well i will find one sometime.

so what turno kit are you going with?

Zak

kbounds · 10-29-2002, 01:13 PM

The thing to remember is that the F-Max kit doesn't COME with the JWT ecu.  You have to get it separately (~$5-600).

gabossie · 10-29-2002, 01:42 PM

How much do the different stages cost for the fmax?

stil bil · 10-29-2002, 06:15 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kbounds @ Oct. 29 2002,2:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The thing to remember is that the F-Max kit doesn't COME with the JWT ecu. You have to get it separately (~$5-600).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
this is were you are mistaken, it does come with the JWT ECU

check it out

Kreator · 10-29-2002, 07:37 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (stil bil @ Oct. 29 2002,7:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kbounds @ Oct. 29 2002,2:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The thing to remember is that the F-Max kit doesn't COME with the JWT ecu. You have to get it separately (~$5-600).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
this is were you are mistaken, it does come with the JWT ECU

check it out</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That site hasn't been updated for years. It was way before JWT started sending there ecus to late and F-Max switched to rrfpr. You still can get the jwt ecu with the kit, but i don't know if it's extra price or anything. Your are better off asking jeff. All i know is that they have 2 different sets...

And the best t-kit is the one you put together by yerself. All the stuff u want and none that you don't want. And you don't pay more than what it actually costs <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

flipboi13 · 10-29-2002, 07:59 PM

Yeah, the cheapest way is to buy the parts separetely, it may take more work, but is alot cheaper.  I'd bet you can save $1000 if you do it right and with the best parts to boot.

My friend who has connections at GReddy said that the GReddy kit WILL come out, but since there really isn't that much demand, it is taking longer so there is less people getting it done.  Since this is GReddy's reputation, they are getting the kit perfected so having a small staff do this takes time....

I may have imagined him saying this, but I think he told me next summer... but then I was also sniffing differential fluid hours before.

Kreator · 10-29-2002, 08:02 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (flipboi13 @ Oct. 29 2002,8:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, the cheapest way is to buy the parts separetely, it may take more work, but is alot cheaper. I'd bet you can save $1000 if you do it right and with the best parts to boot.

My friend who has connections at GReddy said that the GReddy kit WILL come out, but since there really isn't that much demand, it is taking longer so there is less people getting it done. Since this is GReddy's reputation, they are getting the kit perfected so having a small staff do this takes time....

I may have imagined him saying this, but I think he told me next summer... but then I was also sniffing differential fluid hours before.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Lol, I bet by the time greddy comes out with a kat, every ka out there will be alrdy turboed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> how long is it taking em? a year? a couple?

Evil S14 · 10-29-2002, 10:45 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (saga240 @ Oct. 27 2002,5:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">id say you email marty king about his opinions on the fmax kit.. he is the one that was recently selling his car with the stage 3 fmax kit with the auto tranny..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I met the kid who bought his 240 nd he was a cock, i hope hes on here.  He wouldn't even give me the time of day like he actually build the fuckin thing.  anyways, Chris May also has a mean ass turbo on his KA24, he pushed 435hp out on 22psi, u should email him, umm but i dont have his info

flipboi13 · 10-29-2002, 10:57 PM

Haha, i think its been like 3 years... but who's counting...  Though the manifold may be stainless steel with the strength compared to that of the revhard manifold which is cast iron, so that may be something to wait for or upgrade to.  I'm still thinking between Revhard or wait and see what GReddy throws at us.

*Jeff240sx* · 10-29-2002, 11:06 PM

Stainless isn't the optimal metal for extreme heat applications... and right between the header and compressor is about the most extreme a car can give.  This is all hearsay, but it was just discussed on FA a few weeks ago.  A few of the reasons I can remember is that stainless gets malleable, retains heat too much, and discolors.  There were other reasons, but I wasn't paying that close attention.  So we need a metallurgist to post in this topic now to clear things up.
-Jeff

boosteds14 · 10-30-2002, 07:06 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (gabossie @ Oct. 29 2002,4:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How much do the different stages cost for the fmax?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
email me for pricing
[email protected]

boosteds14 · 10-30-2002, 07:18 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Oct. 29 2002,10:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (stil bil @ Oct. 29 2002,7:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kbounds @ Oct. 29 2002,2:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The thing to remember is that the F-Max kit doesn't COME with the JWT ecu. You have to get it separately (~$5-600).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
this is were you are mistaken, it does come with the JWT ECU

check it out</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
That site hasn't been updated for years. It was way before JWT started sending there ecus to late and F-Max switched to rrfpr. You still can get the jwt ecu with the kit, but i don't know if it's extra price or anything. Your are better off asking jeff. All i know is that they have 2 different sets...

And the best t-kit is the one you put together by yerself. All the stuff u want and none that you don't want. And you don't pay more than what it actually costs <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
comes with an rrpfr??

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
let me call f-max, i never heard of that.

the f-max kit stop including the JWT because there was several cases in which the customer was waiting for the kit but could not be sent out because the ECU was not finished.
Now they lowered the price. You are recommended to get the JWT ecu, but you dont have too. its up to the customer. It gives more options to the consumer; stand alone, JWT, piggy back system, rrpfr.

the stage 1 still comes with Nissan 370cc injectors.- consumer just needs to control them somehow, ie. JWT ecu

stage 2 still comes with the 300zx fuel pump, 550cc injectors, and Cobra MAF sensor.

the consumer also has the choice of a different turbine A/R's, depending on how much boost they want to run and the spool up time.

the good thing about buying a turbo kit is that it fits for the car. the intercooler, manifold, downpipe is already to install. custom kits makes you have fit the cars correctly.

hope this answers alot of questions. I will call f-max today and make sure about the rrpfr thing. i will post with their reply.

Jeff

[email protected]

Kreator · 10-30-2002, 10:09 AM

Hmm i'm not sure on the rrfpr thing. I just remember the time when f-max had problems with JWT. I asked jeff240sx about that and he said they went with rrfpr instead of jwt and then later on at one of the meets i talked to a guy who had a friend who was a dealer of f-max's kits too and he confirmed that. So that's as far as my knowledge goes.

boosteds14 · 10-30-2002, 10:30 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">later on at one of the meets i talked to a guy who had a friend who was a dealer of f-max's kits too and he confirmed that. So that's as far as my knowledge goes. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

was his friend's name, Nathan from PA.
he deals f-max on the east coast also.

Kreator · 10-30-2002, 10:35 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ Oct. 30 2002,11:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">later on at one of the meets i talked to a guy who had a friend who was a dealer of f-max's kits too and he confirmed that. So that's as far as my knowledge goes. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

was his friend's name, Nathan from PA.
he deals f-max on the east coast also.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah i think that was his name... I'm not completely sure, it was like 3-4 months ago. Did you figure out anything about the rrfprs in their kits?

boosteds14 · 10-30-2002, 10:54 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Oct. 30 2002,1:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ Oct. 30 2002,11:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">later on at one of the meets i talked to a guy who had a friend who was a dealer of f-max's kits too and he confirmed that. So that's as far as my knowledge goes. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

was his friend's name, Nathan from PA.
he deals f-max on the east coast also.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Yeah i think that was his name... I'm not completely sure, it was like 3-4 months ago. Did you figure out anything about the rrfprs in their kits?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Just got off the phone.
NO

they do not provide a rrpfr.
must get the JWT ecu or whatever you wish to get.

240racer · 10-30-2002, 11:34 AM

</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Stainless isn't the optimal metal for extreme heat applications... and right between the header and compressor is about the most extreme a car can give.  This is all hearsay, but it was just discussed on FA a few weeks ago.  A few of the reasons I can remember is that stainless gets malleable, retains heat too much, and discolors.  There were other reasons, but I wasn't paying that close attention.  So we need a metallurgist to post in this topic now to clear things up.
-Jeff</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">

inconel is the choice for exhaust, but nobody except f1 does it.  also Titanium is better then stainless, but more expensive.  check out www.burnsstainless.com for more info.  For the rest of us, stainless is just fine.

10-27-2002, 04:27 PM	#1
xNotoriousGQx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 447 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Okay it's time to take my 240sx to the next level. Since no one bid on it on ebay. I decided to go turbo. There are 3 major turbo kits out there for the 95-98 240sx.  I can't de cide which one to get for my 97 240sx auto. I need suggestions and advice. The three kits are 1) XS engineering 2) F-Max kit 3)nsport. 4? Greddy (if it ever comes out). Which one produces the most hp for stage 1 kit? most reliable? price? price? best turbo kit overall? __________________ www.RevTechRacing.com

10-27-2002, 04:44 PM	#2
saga240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: long beach Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	id say you email marty king about his opinions on the fmax kit.. he is the one that was recently selling his car with the stage 3 fmax kit with the auto tranny.. __________________ 96 240sx SE RIP 91 Mr2 turbo.. td06.. and nothing else.. =)

10-27-2002, 05:38 PM	#3
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i would defintly go with f-max. but because i sell them but i believe it is so reliable. plus with the JWT plug and boost ECU, its granted to give you the most reliable turbokit around. I cant wait for greddy to get there kit out either. __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

10-27-2002, 07:56 PM	#5
S14lover Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colombus GA Posts: 162 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dunno im torn between the Nsport and the F-Maxx i mean for the price the nsport package is great plus a guy i know(sounds funny) has an nsport and he loves it! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':devil:'> __________________ She ****ing hates me ....TRUST!

10-27-2002, 08:15 PM	#6
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tictakman @ Oct. 27 2002,10:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">boosted...how much are u looking to get for ur car? is it manual? Id also like to know everyones opinion on who makes the best turbo kit. best bang for the buck and why! later Zak</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> well i would sell the car with for $29k its alot, but i am not looking to sell it right now. but i will if the price is right __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

10-27-2002, 07:26 PM	#4
Tictakman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	boosted...how much are u looking to get for ur car?  is it manual? Id also like to know everyones opinion on who makes the best turbo kit.  best bang for the buck and why! later Zak

10-27-2002, 09:08 PM	#7
xNotoriousGQx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 447 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Here's what each turbo kit comes with: F-Max FMAX HIGH-CARBON CAST-STEEL TURBO MANIFOLD CLOSED-LOOP MANDREL BENT DOWNPIPE INTERCOOLER PIPING T3/T4E HYBRID TURBOCHARGER DELTAGATE EXTERNAL WASTEGATE INTERCOOLER K&N AIR FILTER HKS RACING BYPASS VALVE JIM WOLF TECHNOLOGY ECU NISSAN 370CC FUEL INJECTORS PRICE ABOUT 4300 + shipping NSPORT Garrett T04B-R turbocharger Cast iron exhaust manifold Turbonetics Deltagate wastegate (7psi) Downpipe Bosch blow-off valve Front mount intercooler and intercooler piping 24"x11"x2.75 Fuel Management Unit Walbro in-tank replacement high-flow fuel pump All related hoses, lines, clamps and miscellaneous hardware PRICE ABOUT 4000 +shipping XS Engineering T3/T04 Hybrid turbocharger, rugged cast iron exhaust manifold, an external wastegate, a 2.75" intake and 2.25" intercooler piping, and HKS Super Mega Flow air filter, Vortech FMU, and all necessary oil lines and fasteners. PRICE about 4000+shipping __________________ www.RevTechRacing.com

10-27-2002, 10:24 PM	#8
Tictakman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ya thats out of my price range. xNotoriousGQx- how much are u looking to get for ur car?is it manual. Zak

10-27-2002, 10:28 PM	#9
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 38 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tictakman @ Oct. 28 2002,12:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ya thats out of my price range. xNotoriousGQx- how much are u looking to get for ur car?is it manual. Zak</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Are you just trying to buy cars here? -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

10-27-2002, 10:38 PM	#10
Tictakman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no im just trying to find the right one!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Zak

10-28-2002, 06:34 AM	#11
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	here is the difference that you should look at the most: FMAX:JIM WOLF TECHNOLOGY ECU NSPORT:Fuel Management Unit XS Engineering:Vortech FMU plus nsport comes with a bosch BOV, come on. that is low budget __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

10-28-2002, 07:08 AM	#12
ATL S13 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 24 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just so you know.. www.phase2motortrend.com has the nsport kit for 3900 and the XS kit for 3400. __________________ Shawn www.240sxforums.com click here to visit my website

10-28-2002, 07:56 AM	#13
xNotoriousGQx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 447 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tictakman @ Oct. 27 2002,01:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ya thats out of my price range. xNotoriousGQx- how much are u looking to get for ur car?is it manual. Zak</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Trying to get 11g. __________________ www.RevTechRacing.com

10-28-2002, 10:52 AM	#14
Tictakman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 321 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn, thats a little too much too.  oh well i will find one sometime. so what turno kit are you going with? Zak

10-29-2002, 01:13 PM	#15
kbounds Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 51 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The thing to remember is that the F-Max kit doesn't COME with the JWT ecu.  You have to get it separately (~$5-600). __________________ Keith Red! '97 240SX SE VLSD, N1, t3/t04e

10-29-2002, 06:15 PM	#17
stil bil Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Age: 39 Posts: 320 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kbounds @ Oct. 29 2002,2:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The thing to remember is that the F-Max kit doesn't COME with the JWT ecu. You have to get it separately (~$5-600).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> this is were you are mistaken, it does come with the JWT ECU check it out __________________ DUDE I'M GETTING A TURBO!!

10-29-2002, 07:37 PM	#18
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 37 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (stil bil @ Oct. 29 2002,7:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kbounds @ Oct. 29 2002,2:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The thing to remember is that the F-Max kit doesn't COME with the JWT ecu. You have to get it separately (~$5-600).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> this is were you are mistaken, it does come with the JWT ECU check it out</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> That site hasn't been updated for years. It was way before JWT started sending there ecus to late and F-Max switched to rrfpr. You still can get the jwt ecu with the kit, but i don't know if it's extra price or anything. Your are better off asking jeff. All i know is that they have 2 different sets... And the best t-kit is the one you put together by yerself. All the stuff u want and none that you don't want. And you don't pay more than what it actually costs <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

10-29-2002, 07:59 PM	#19
flipboi13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah, the cheapest way is to buy the parts separetely, it may take more work, but is alot cheaper.  I'd bet you can save $1000 if you do it right and with the best parts to boot. My friend who has connections at GReddy said that the GReddy kit WILL come out, but since there really isn't that much demand, it is taking longer so there is less people getting it done.  Since this is GReddy's reputation, they are getting the kit perfected so having a small staff do this takes time.... I may have imagined him saying this, but I think he told me next summer... but then I was also sniffing differential fluid hours before.

10-29-2002, 08:02 PM	#20
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 37 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (flipboi13 @ Oct. 29 2002,8:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah, the cheapest way is to buy the parts separetely, it may take more work, but is alot cheaper. I'd bet you can save $1000 if you do it right and with the best parts to boot. My friend who has connections at GReddy said that the GReddy kit WILL come out, but since there really isn't that much demand, it is taking longer so there is less people getting it done. Since this is GReddy's reputation, they are getting the kit perfected so having a small staff do this takes time.... I may have imagined him saying this, but I think he told me next summer... but then I was also sniffing differential fluid hours before.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Lol, I bet by the time greddy comes out with a kat, every ka out there will be alrdy turboed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> how long is it taking em? a year? a couple? __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

10-29-2002, 10:45 PM	#21
Evil S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indianapolis/Bloomington Age: 38 Posts: 610 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (saga240 @ Oct. 27 2002,5:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">id say you email marty king about his opinions on the fmax kit.. he is the one that was recently selling his car with the stage 3 fmax kit with the auto tranny..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I met the kid who bought his 240 nd he was a cock, i hope hes on here.  He wouldn't even give me the time of day like he actually build the fuckin thing.  anyways, Chris May also has a mean ass turbo on his KA24, he pushed 435hp out on 22psi, u should email him, umm but i dont have his info __________________ image exceeds forum limit -Moderation

10-29-2002, 10:57 PM	#22
flipboi13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Haha, i think its been like 3 years... but who's counting...  Though the manifold may be stainless steel with the strength compared to that of the revhard manifold which is cast iron, so that may be something to wait for or upgrade to.  I'm still thinking between Revhard or wait and see what GReddy throws at us.

10-29-2002, 11:06 PM	#23
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 38 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stainless isn't the optimal metal for extreme heat applications... and right between the header and compressor is about the most extreme a car can give.  This is all hearsay, but it was just discussed on FA a few weeks ago.  A few of the reasons I can remember is that stainless gets malleable, retains heat too much, and discolors.  There were other reasons, but I wasn't paying that close attention.  So we need a metallurgist to post in this topic now to clear things up. -Jeff __________________ Whatup?

10-30-2002, 07:06 AM	#24
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (gabossie @ Oct. 29 2002,4:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How much do the different stages cost for the fmax?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> email me for pricing [email protected] __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

10-30-2002, 07:18 AM	#25
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Oct. 29 2002,10:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (stil bil @ Oct. 29 2002,7:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kbounds @ Oct. 29 2002,2:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The thing to remember is that the F-Max kit doesn't COME with the JWT ecu. You have to get it separately (~$5-600).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> this is were you are mistaken, it does come with the JWT ECU check it out</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> That site hasn't been updated for years. It was way before JWT started sending there ecus to late and F-Max switched to rrfpr. You still can get the jwt ecu with the kit, but i don't know if it's extra price or anything. Your are better off asking jeff. All i know is that they have 2 different sets... And the best t-kit is the one you put together by yerself. All the stuff u want and none that you don't want. And you don't pay more than what it actually costs <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> comes with an rrpfr?? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> let me call f-max, i never heard of that. the f-max kit stop including the JWT because there was several cases in which the customer was waiting for the kit but could not be sent out because the ECU was not finished. Now they lowered the price. You are recommended to get the JWT ecu, but you dont have too. its up to the customer. It gives more options to the consumer; stand alone, JWT, piggy back system, rrpfr. the stage 1 still comes with Nissan 370cc injectors.- consumer just needs to control them somehow, ie. JWT ecu stage 2 still comes with the 300zx fuel pump, 550cc injectors, and Cobra MAF sensor. the consumer also has the choice of a different turbine A/R's, depending on how much boost they want to run and the spool up time. the good thing about buying a turbo kit is that it fits for the car. the intercooler, manifold, downpipe is already to install. custom kits makes you have fit the cars correctly. hope this answers alot of questions. I will call f-max today and make sure about the rrpfr thing. i will post with their reply. Jeff [email protected] __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

10-30-2002, 10:09 AM	#26
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 37 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmm i'm not sure on the rrfpr thing. I just remember the time when f-max had problems with JWT. I asked jeff240sx about that and he said they went with rrfpr instead of jwt and then later on at one of the meets i talked to a guy who had a friend who was a dealer of f-max's kits too and he confirmed that. So that's as far as my knowledge goes. __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

10-30-2002, 10:30 AM	#27
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">later on at one of the meets i talked to a guy who had a friend who was a dealer of f-max's kits too and he confirmed that. So that's as far as my knowledge goes. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> was his friend's name, Nathan from PA. he deals f-max on the east coast also. __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

10-30-2002, 10:35 AM	#28
Kreator Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: MD Age: 37 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ Oct. 30 2002,11:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">later on at one of the meets i talked to a guy who had a friend who was a dealer of f-max's kits too and he confirmed that. So that's as far as my knowledge goes. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> was his friend's name, Nathan from PA. he deals f-max on the east coast also.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Yeah i think that was his name... I'm not completely sure, it was like 3-4 months ago. Did you figure out anything about the rrfprs in their kits? __________________ кто болеет за Зенит, у того всегда стоит!

10-30-2002, 10:54 AM	#29
boosteds14 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: CIPmotorsports Age: 39 Posts: 1,612 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Kreator @ Oct. 30 2002,1:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (boosteds14 @ Oct. 30 2002,11:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">later on at one of the meets i talked to a guy who had a friend who was a dealer of f-max's kits too and he confirmed that. So that's as far as my knowledge goes. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> was his friend's name, Nathan from PA. he deals f-max on the east coast also.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Yeah i think that was his name... I'm not completely sure, it was like 3-4 months ago. Did you figure out anything about the rrfprs in their kits?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Just got off the phone. NO they do not provide a rrpfr. must get the JWT ecu or whatever you wish to get. __________________ 240SXONE www.240SXMOTORING.com --- One Stop Shop for Your Nissan 240sx

10-30-2002, 11:34 AM	#30
240racer Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Age: 42 Posts: 574 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Stainless isn't the optimal metal for extreme heat applications... and right between the header and compressor is about the most extreme a car can give.  This is all hearsay, but it was just discussed on FA a few weeks ago.  A few of the reasons I can remember is that stainless gets malleable, retains heat too much, and discolors.  There were other reasons, but I wasn't paying that close attention.  So we need a metallurgist to post in this topic now to clear things up. -Jeff</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> inconel is the choice for exhaust, but nobody except f1 does it.  also Titanium is better then stainless, but more expensive.  check out www.burnsstainless.com for more info.  For the rest of us, stainless is just fine. __________________ Adam '89 coupe KA24DE+T 14.1 @ 104 MPH '88 Celica All-Trac turbo stock, but no more ecu codes!!

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