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Broadfield · 09-24-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

So, you're saying you can remove the gauges from the cups. Mount them on a board and reprogram their sweep?

No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

drivnovrdaedge · 09-24-2013, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

Yeah, but you can't overlap aftermarket gauges like that. The body is almost the same diameter of the bezel. So basically the bezel of the front gauge wouldn't even hide the bezel of the gauge that's mounted behind it. You have to keep in mind that these OEM gauge setups that you posted pics of are simply a facade on the front. There's no actual "gauge" in there... as in there is no body to the gauge. It's just faces of gauges essentially mounted to a circuit board.

i understand that, i was just referring to the rim of the guages going over the imaginary box panel of which the other guages sit in and what their dimensions are contained in

i DO NOT want mine stacked up like that either cause it would protrude out too far and would NOT look nice either.

i simply wanted to show that i understand that the gauges being 5in and not 3 3/8 (like the others examples i have seen) that it would over lap over the panel into the bezel edges of the gauge cluster. the pictures show the example of what i am expecting with ONLY the 1 middle single gauges rim protruding outward.

the already massed produced panel that uses 3 3/8 would need to be heavily modified to fit the 5in guages and would ultimately have gaps around the edges of the 5in gauges would not look good either and look like a hack job. it would need to be molded into the panel bring it back to where i started with needing fabrication.

i could also buy that massed produced panel if it would be a good starting point for you and decrease the amount of time and effort to have a starting molding point ... in return maybe reducing the price...

.. LOL

Broadfield · 09-26-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by redline racer510

Toby I remember you mentioning somewhere on this forum about mounting gauges in a s14 in place of the din pocket under the radio. What is the best way to mount them, I am also thinking about using dark plexiglass in front of the gauges but am worried about the aem uego and tru-boost gauge color LEDs not being able to show through especially during the day?

52mm gauges do not fit in that location without molding the area closed and then either flushing them in or surface mounting them. I just finished up this exact piece and Defi 52mm's(which have one of the smallest bezel diameters) BARELY fit. I haven't taken high res shots yet with my good camera, but here's an iPhone pic for you to check out how tight the fit is. There is only an 1/8" of material or less left over between the gauge and radio and gauge and ash tray opening:

EnemyS15 · 09-26-2013, 09:07 PM

Would having such little material compromise the work?

Broadfield · 09-26-2013, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EnemyS15

Would having such little material compromise the work?

I hope not

I'm hoping my customers are careful when installing the pieces I make back into place. Once in place they essentially just sit there... so there should never be an issue. Everything is plastic bonded with the highest quality 2-part plastic epoxy. But if you go trying to heavily bend and warp the piece I make, it may get a small stress crack in one of the areas bonded.

redline racer510 · 09-27-2013, 12:18 AM

After you bond it and sand it how do you go back and "Texture" the surface like how it was before? This sounds like something I can definitely try.

Broadfield · 09-27-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by redline racer510

After you bond it and sand it how do you go back and "Texture" the surface like how it was before? This sounds like something I can definitely try.

I use some form of texture coating.

ferrariowner123 · 09-30-2013, 04:18 PM

Hey.

What do you recommend for someone who wants to go the the AN route for the hard lines for their brakes and fuel lines?
I saw in your thread of your LS3 S13, you were using some kind of flare AN fittings, could you give more information on them or a link to them?

Thanks

-Kyle

Konster · 10-01-2013, 10:21 PM

Sup dude, sorry to bother you again, but I have been checking your blog and I don't see the write up for the 350Z pedal upgrade.

Broadfield · 10-02-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Konster

Sup dude, sorry to bother you again, but I have been checking your blog and I don't see the write up for the 350Z pedal upgrade.

No, I just haven't had time to do it yet... been far too busy to worry about it. I had planned to do it when I told you I was going to do it, then I had a ton of custom work show up that I am attending to.

Konster · 10-02-2013, 10:27 AM

Ah, I see. No prob, keep up the good work.

e5s4y · 10-08-2013, 02:43 PM

hey broadfield
what shifter are you running with your tr6060 (iirc, thats what you have, right?)?

Broadfield · 10-08-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by e5s4y

hey broadfield
what shifter are you running with your tr6060 (iirc, thats what you have, right?)?

I have the MGW... and yes, it's a TR6060.

e5s4y · 10-08-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

I have the MGW... and yes, it's a TR6060.

Awesome. I couldnt find any real info on someone running this one in an s-chassis. mine came with the stock camero shifter assembly and i didnt know if i could use it or not. Probably just gonna get this one now to make it simple

just to be positive, its this one?

Generation 5 Camaro Short Throw Shifter

Broadfield · 10-08-2013, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by e5s4y

Awesome. I couldnt find any real info on someone running this one in an s-chassis. mine came with the stock camero shifter assembly and i didnt know if i could use it or not. Probably just gonna get this one now to make it simple

just to be positive, its this one?

Generation 5 Camaro Short Throw Shifter

Yep, that's the one. Hopefully I'll be picking up a transmission jack soon so I can start fabricating a trans mount.

Ikera · 10-11-2013, 05:36 PM

Hey Broadfield,
I'm not sure if this has been address before,
my question is how do dash integrated tablets compare to a high end head units
pros and cons

mrnismor14 · 10-11-2013, 06:12 PM

Looking to do a nice sound system in my s13 240sx. Looking at the Clarus line, 6.5 all around with either a 12 or a 15 inch sub. not sure which tweets to get. i listen to 90% rap 90% of the time. not looking to bust windows or be heard from miles away, but would like a nice decently hard hitting system. Can you quote me a full system price from you? i want it to be as complete as possible, i.e. front and rear componenets, tweeters, sub, amps, xover's, the whole nine down to wiring. thx for your time!

Broadfield · 10-11-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikera

Hey Broadfield,
I'm not sure if this has been address before,
my question is how do dash integrated tablets compare to a high end head units
pros and cons

I'm just going to list some of the cons of the tablet to make this go quick:

Does not have a tuner. You could use an app, but you would need WiFi... which isn't going to happen when you are driving unless you have 4G etc... which obviously will cost money.
Does not have Blue Tooth control over your phone. You cannot pair your phone with the tablet and accept/place hands free phone calls from the tablet.
Does not have XM/Sirius control... again, an app would do this but we are at the same issue with WiFi.
Does not have an easy volume control from the tablet. Some tablets even lock out the volume control when it's docked.... defaulting to a fixed full volume. So you are forced to either not have the dock cable plugged in, which means it won't charge while in the vehicle... which is stupid and not convenient. Or you would need to buy a preamp(the best option for many reasons) but then that again will cost more money.
It won't have as good of sound quality output typically as a head unit. This is very true for Android because they typically have garbage audio output. If you want anywhere close to audiophile quality then you would need to use an outboard DAC... again, more expense. However, Apple devices have phenomenal audio quality. You can check this for reference: iPhone 5 Audio Quality Measurements
Typically much more difficult to install because they need to be molded-in to look nice. Sure, you can just hack the dash and call it a day... but that would be ghetto. A double DIN will always look good with a simple $15 dash kit if the OEM radio opening is not already a double DIN opening.
Doesn't just turn on when you turn the key on. A standard head unit just starts playing automatically when you turn the key on... you don't have to touch a single button. Just get in and drive.

These are just some of the things. My customers always think it's going to be sooo awesome for me to put a tablet in their car. Then realize the little things like having to start the music back up, every time when they get in the car, kinda of sucks.

Here is an iPad Mini I just installed into my salesman's truck... he will eventually swap it out for the black model so it looks a little better in the dash. It is quickly removable by pushing on the right side... it has spring loaded release that kicks the right side of the iPad up and then you can grab it and slide it out.

Here is the folder where I have some build pics of how it all started and ended:

Greg Loercher's Chevy Colorado iPad Mini Mount album | Broadfield | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

Broadfield · 10-11-2013, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrnismor14

Looking to do a nice sound system in my s13 240sx. Looking at the Clarus line, 6.5 all around with either a 12 or a 15 inch sub. not sure which tweets to get. i listen to 90% rap 90% of the time. not looking to bust windows or be heard from miles away, but would like a nice decently hard hitting system. Can you quote me a full system price from you? i want it to be as complete as possible, i.e. front and rear componenets, tweeters, sub, amps, xover's, the whole nine down to wiring. thx for your time!

Awesome! If you want to PM me your email we can continue there. I'll need your email in order to send you a quote from my invoicing software anyway.

Thanks,

Toby

Ikera · 10-12-2013, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadfield

I'm just going to list some of the cons of the tablet to make this go quick:

Does not have a tuner. You could use an app, but you would need WiFi... which isn't going to happen when you are driving unless you have 4G etc... which obviously will cost money.
Does not have Blue Tooth control over your phone. You cannot pair your phone with the tablet and accept/place hands free phone calls from the tablet.
Does not have XM/Sirius control... again, an app would do this but we are at the same issue with WiFi.
Does not have an easy volume control from the tablet. Some tablets even lock out the volume control when it's docked.... defaulting to a fixed full volume. So you are forced to either not have the dock cable plugged in, which means it won't charge while in the vehicle... which is stupid and not convenient. Or you would need to buy a preamp(the best option for many reasons) but then that again will cost more money.
It won't have as good of sound quality output typically as a head unit. This is very true for Android because they typically have garbage audio output. If you want anywhere close to audiophile quality then you would need to use an outboard DAC... again, more expense. However, Apple devices have phenomenal audio quality. You can check this for reference: iPhone 5 Audio Quality Measurements
Typically much more difficult to install because they need to be molded-in to look nice. Sure, you can just hack the dash and call it a day... but that would be ghetto. A double DIN will always look good with a simple $15 dash kit if the OEM radio opening is not already a double DIN opening.
Doesn't just turn on when you turn the key on. A standard head unit just starts playing automatically when you turn the key on... you don't have to touch a single button. Just get in and drive.

These are just some of the things. My customers always think it's going to be sooo awesome for me to put a tablet in their car. Then realize the little things like having to start the music back up, every time when they get in the car, kinda of sucks.

Thanks for reply

if these are the major cons, it doesn't even look that bad
also some Androids have build in FM Receivers and there are $20 USB FM Receiver dongles available as well. Not sure about XM Radio tho
yes it sucks not to have physical buttons, but you could buy a android keyboard which are small and cheap

The things I wanted when I chose to go Android were
- GPS NAVI
- 7" High Resolution Screen
- Capacitive 5 point touch screen
- Multi-Core CPU with >2GB RAM
- Multitasking Capabilities
- ability to play any video format files
- Customizable home screen (widgets)
- Cost under $200

and here is some other cool stuff you can do
- Pair with a OBD II scanner via BlueTooth and display all the cool data you can pull from it (ELM 327 OBD II BlueTooth scanners are $10 on eBay)
- 3D Accelerometer Gauge

Broadfield · 10-12-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikera

Thanks for reply

if these are the major cons, it doesn't even look that bad
also some Androids have build in FM Receivers and there are $20 USB FM Receiver dongles available as well. Not sure about XM Radio tho
yes it sucks not to have physical buttons, but you could buy a android keyboard which are small and cheap

The things I wanted when I chose to go Android were
- GPS NAVI
- 7" High Resolution Screen
- Capacitive 5 point touch screen
- Multi-Core CPU with >2GB RAM
- Multitasking Capabilities
- ability to play any video format files
- Customizable home screen (widgets)
- Cost under $200

and here is some other cool stuff you can do
- Pair with a OBD II scanner via BlueTooth and display all the cool data you can pull from it (ELM 327 OBD II BlueTooth scanners are $10 on eBay)
- 3D Accelerometer Gauge

You don't need to tell me the pros and cons man, I have been doing this for a living for 21 years

slowvia · 10-24-2013, 11:12 AM

Hey Broadfield, so I'm looking into getting some gauges for my car (I actually just bought a center vent panel from you). I was wondering what you would recommend for a tight budget. For now I'm only looking for vac/boost and temp.
Obviously the most important thing is that they have to be accurate and reliable. But I have to admit, I'd really like to have LEDs and an opening and closing ceremony. What would you say is the best option for something like that for cheap? I'm a full time student, so I need to pinch as many pennies as I can!
Thanks man!

singlecamslam · 10-24-2013, 02:39 PM

I have a few questions for Mr Broadfield:
1. What is the best way to fix hairline cracks, cracks in general on a dashboard.
2. I want to repaint my entire dashboard since i dont like the light blue, bad idea? I know the SEM texture coat is pretty close to the stock grey look.
3. How are you securing the gauges after installing them in that s14 radio bezel? Do you have a shot from the back? Talking about this. Also would like to know what glue you are using to adhere the plastic pieces youcut out to the s14 radio bezel. Thank you, and if these questions have been answered in previous pages my apologies.

***S14DB*** · 10-24-2013, 03:42 PM

Has no one stepped up to challenge the app radio? I see they have the 3rd gen now.

Broadfield · 10-24-2013, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowvia

Hey Broadfield, so I'm looking into getting some gauges for my car (I actually just bought a center vent panel from you). I was wondering what you would recommend for a tight budget. For now I'm only looking for vac/boost and temp.
Obviously the most important thing is that they have to be accurate and reliable. But I have to admit, I'd really like to have LEDs and an opening and closing ceremony. What would you say is the best option for something like that for cheap? I'm a full time student, so I need to pinch as many pennies as I can!
Thanks man!

I would do the Speedhut, Speedhut series. They are very affordable and fully customizable... also very high quality! Please let me know if you need a quote on them. You can build them on their website if you want to see how you can customize them to your liking.

Broadfield · 10-24-2013, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Has no one stepped up to challenge the app radio? I see they have the 3rd gen now.

I'm not sure who you are talking about.... every big name manufacturer has an app radio.

Broadfield · 10-24-2013, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by singlecamslam

I have a few questions for Mr Broadfield:
1. What is the best way to fix hairline cracks, cracks in general on a dashboard.
2. I want to repaint my entire dashboard since i dont like the light blue, bad idea? I know the SEM texture coat is pretty close to the stock grey look.
3. How are you securing the gauges after installing them in that s14 radio bezel? Do you have a shot from the back? Talking about this. Also would like to know what glue you are using to adhere the plastic pieces youcut out to the s14 radio bezel. Thank you, and if these questions have been answered in previous pages my apologies.

1. grind out a "v" in the crack to allow more surface area for the glue to bond to. Then sand and finish to your desired look.

2. I would use the SEM Chip Guard then paint it with an SEM Color Coat if you do not like the satin black of the Chip Guard.

3. I use Norton Speed Grip to bond plastic and to typically glue the electronics in place if there isn't room for brackets.

***S14DB*** · 10-24-2013, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadfield

I'm not sure who you are talking about.... every big name manufacturer has an app radio.

I know about all the mirrorlink stuff. It just seems that some still do it better than others.

Broadfield · 10-24-2013, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

I know about all the mirrorlink stuff. It just seems that some still do it better than others.

I'm not really a fan of any of them. If I'm going that route then I would just do an iPad molded into the dash. There are obvious pros and cons to a standard double din screen, an app radio screen and a tablet.

singlecamslam · 10-26-2013, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadfield

1. grind out a "v" in the crack to allow more surface area for the glue to bond to. Then sand and finish to your desired look.

2. I would use the SEM Chip Guard then paint it with an SEM Color Coat if you do not like the satin black of the Chip Guard.

3. I use Norton Speed Grip to bond plastic and to typically glue the electronics in place if there isn't room for brackets.

Do you use the Speed Grip to fill the crack as well? I have some plastic weld putty, would that work alright? I want to make sure it doesnt crack again.

09-26-2013, 09:07 PM	#874
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09-27-2013, 12:18 AM	#876
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	After you bond it and sand it how do you go back and "Texture" the surface like how it was before? This sounds like something I can definitely try. __________________ WARNING: User has a low tolerance for stupidity. Post at your own risk.

10-01-2013, 10:21 PM	#879
Konster Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Age: 32 Posts: 1,270 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Sup dude, sorry to bother you again, but I have been checking your blog and I don't see the write up for the 350Z pedal upgrade. __________________ Hyer.

10-02-2013, 10:27 AM	#881
Konster Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NY Age: 32 Posts: 1,270 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Ah, I see. No prob, keep up the good work. __________________ Hyer.

10-08-2013, 02:43 PM	#882
e5s4y Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Jacksonville Age: 30 Posts: 340 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	hey broadfield what shifter are you running with your tr6060 (iirc, thats what you have, right?)? __________________ BustedS13: anything you can hide on your person is free. junkyard law.

09-30-2013, 04:18 PM	#878
ferrariowner123 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Washington, USA Age: 29 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hey. What do you recommend for someone who wants to go the the AN route for the hard lines for their brakes and fuel lines? I saw in your thread of your LS3 S13, you were using some kind of flare AN fittings, could you give more information on them or a link to them? Thanks -Kyle

10-11-2013, 05:36 PM	#886
Ikera Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Vancouver Age: 35 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey Broadfield, I'm not sure if this has been address before, my question is how do dash integrated tablets compare to a high end head units pros and cons Last edited by Ikera; 10-23-2013 at 11:37 AM..

10-11-2013, 06:12 PM	#887
mrnismor14 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dallas Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HAT setup Looking to do a nice sound system in my s13 240sx. Looking at the Clarus line, 6.5 all around with either a 12 or a 15 inch sub. not sure which tweets to get. i listen to 90% rap 90% of the time. not looking to bust windows or be heard from miles away, but would like a nice decently hard hitting system. Can you quote me a full system price from you? i want it to be as complete as possible, i.e. front and rear componenets, tweeters, sub, amps, xover's, the whole nine down to wiring. thx for your time!

10-24-2013, 11:12 AM	#892
slowvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: OR Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Hey Broadfield, so I'm looking into getting some gauges for my car (I actually just bought a center vent panel from you). I was wondering what you would recommend for a tight budget. For now I'm only looking for vac/boost and temp. Obviously the most important thing is that they have to be accurate and reliable. But I have to admit, I'd really like to have LEDs and an opening and closing ceremony. What would you say is the best option for something like that for cheap? I'm a full time student, so I need to pinch as many pennies as I can! Thanks man!

10-24-2013, 02:39 PM	#893
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I have a few questions for Mr Broadfield: 1. What is the best way to fix hairline cracks, cracks in general on a dashboard. 2. I want to repaint my entire dashboard since i dont like the light blue, bad idea? I know the SEM texture coat is pretty close to the stock grey look. 3. How are you securing the gauges after installing them in that s14 radio bezel? Do you have a shot from the back? Talking about this. Also would like to know what glue you are using to adhere the plastic pieces youcut out to the s14 radio bezel. Thank you, and if these questions have been answered in previous pages my apologies. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

10-24-2013, 03:42 PM	#894
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Has no one stepped up to challenge the app radio? I see they have the 3rd gen now. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

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