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04-05-2017, 12:24 PM | #1 |
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At to what point is a car unfixable?
Just wondering at what point is the frame of a car past the point of no return? My friend just got in an accident in his S14 and was devastated. Instead of losing hope, he's going to tube the front and rear and repair all the areas that were damaged.
This got me thinking, at what point can a car no longer be fixed? Specifically, if the frame got damaged, is there a way to pull it/repair it? For example if you were t-boned in an accident and the frame rails were pushed in, is there a way to come back from that? Just wanna know so I can stay positive if my S14 was ever wrecked... |
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04-05-2017, 12:27 PM | #2 |
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In Insurance point of view, if the damage is equal or greater than half of what the car is worth, it's a total loss.., you can fix the frame to a certain point. But t boned cars are a lot of money to fix... if the car is worth it to you, you can do like your buddy and tube it and try and get it as straight as possible... but you have to consider it's now prob not going to be as safe on the street
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That depends a lot on state and your company's policy. Some have 75% rules some don't have thresholds. http://www.carinsurance.com/Articles...hresholds.aspx
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04-05-2017, 12:32 PM | #4 |
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So disregarding insurance and all that other street legal bullshit, it is possible to repair the frame? And how would this be done? Just pulling it and trying to get it as straight as possible?
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04-05-2017, 01:44 PM | #5 |
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"Fixable" damage must be equal to or less than the amount of skill and/or budget you have at your disposal.
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Yes you can repair a frame, but to a certain point it makes no sense and would be better just to get another car unless you want a drift missile.
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04-05-2017, 03:31 PM | #9 |
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Everythings fixable. Time, money and skill are what limits you. We've been fixing frame rails in Canada for years and years on these cars and if done right you don't even know they've been fixed.
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04-05-2017, 04:22 PM | #10 |
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I also run with the classic car crowd. Seen one guy rebuild a 66 mustang where the only original part was the roof. Put the rust bucket on a jig and replaced everything.
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04-05-2017, 09:32 PM | #12 |
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Literally anything is "fixable" but eventually it gets to the point where what you started with is basically just a pattern to put all the new stuff together like mentioned above with that mustang or other old car restorations
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04-05-2017, 10:11 PM | #13 |
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Had to make that decision with my old car. Hit the pit wall after 4 years of drifting. Wasn't too bad of a hit, but it tweaked the entire front end including the opposite side of the engine bay. The wheel that hit the wall got shoved back ripping the TC Rod Bracket out and destoryed the frame rail in that area. Typically a tube front-end is cut in front of the TC Bracket mount meaning that was out of the question for my car. The options were to have it put on a frame rack and pulled straight then somehow rebuild that mount area, or have the a new front clip put on. I figure the body shop would have been $2-3k and I wouldn't have been confident in a replaced front clip. So I parted the car. Made $1k on nick-nacks, then bought a new shell for $2k.
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I fucked up my stock auto S14 way back when, spent a load of money fixing her. No Regertzzzzzz Also, to answer your question I would say if you got T-boned or you have a severely damaged car from a rollover then yeah I wouldn't waste my time. Honestly, just get a good career, get a girl who doesn't give a shit about cars(if you like girls), don't tell her about how much money you spend on it (no shared bank accounts), buy a house with lots of property (to build a garage on) or one with a 3 car garage at min, keep a spare shell or two and you'll be fine. Or you can cage the hell out of the car. I'm talking full tube chassis and shit so instead of anything crumpling, you'll just kill someone |
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04-06-2017, 07:23 AM | #15 |
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You just described my life. My wife doesn't give one damn about my cars. We have separate bank accounts. We live on 3.5 acres with a 2400 sq ft shop.
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04-06-2017, 08:11 AM | #16 |
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yup its how much money you want to spend, I have been restoring cars with my dad since I was 7, have had several classics with over 100k invested just through us to make them look like they just rolled off the showroom floor...its amazing what a dollar can transform into!
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