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Old 08-06-2004, 12:47 PM   #1
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17x8 +30mm 17x9 +24mm and 17x10.5 +27mm

How would these fit a 1998 SE as far as flush or inset? I am think 17x9 on all 4 corners to make for better rotations and tire life. I don't have a tire size thought up yet, but need to buy within a month or two.


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You should really pick a tire size first, then pick the offset because it's the tire size that will dictate what offset will work without rubbing (assuming you want it as flush as possible). But I run 17x9 +22 offset with 235's all around. It's pretty flush (could use another -3 or 4 offset probably) and it works with near stock camber.
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all the friggin wheel threads and you cant search and see for yourself? sheesh theres a whole friggin thread full of pictures of what size and offset people are running
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Crazy mad offset info
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try the search button on top of your page. it works wonders.

maybe im missing something but is this an insanely strange concept? I thought we'd browbeaten it into fools that this is normal and how to do it. and yet we get chit like this? I mean really WTF?!?!?
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post count has no reflection of intelligence. you trying to make that connection proves not that your a newb but that your just dumb.

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sheesh theres a whole friggin thread full of pictures of what size and offset people are running

you mention a thread, i ask if you had a link to it since you obviosly knew about it.


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I did search for offset, there are millions of posts and not many that state what I asked. I have three options and was looking for an opinion. Also most of the pics showing offset many times don't identify the size or you can't really tell or it's not the sizes I have mentioned.

If you can find a thread with all my options listed and shown I am all for it...however I gave up after trying to find it.

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i would go with the 17x9. i have 18x9.5+22 all around and it sticks out a bit. not bad though.
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Those threads everyone says "search" for are sort of worthless too (the ones mentioned) as they don't tell you rubbing, alignment issues, etc.

Anyone know if the 17x9 +24 would be optimal on the 98 S14 with 300ZX brakes and Flex coilovers?

275/45 the tire to go with?

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I was looking at more pics and I'd say the 17x8 with 30mm is flush up front....the 17x9 with 24 should be flush out back (I think it's about .75" more out)

It would be a staggered setup but I think ideal.

I will probably be ok with Flex up front and tight with some others (HE especially)
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I was looking at more pics and I'd say the 17x8 with 30mm is flush up front....the 17x9 with 24 should be flush out back (I think it's about .75" more out)

It would be a staggered setup but I think ideal.

I will probably be ok with Flex up front and tight with some others (HE especially)
Remember:
1.) Flush is different to different people. Always remember that!!
2.) If you do not find the EXACT offset in a thread you can still guestimate with offsets that are close. Remember that 5mm is really small! (unless your looking at some crazy offsets and need to be exact...which your not)
3.) Lower the offset the more suspension clearence you will have and less fender clearence.
4.) There are always spacers.

If you clicked on the link I posted above you would see a 17x8 +25 up front 18x9 +25 in the rear on an S14 and see that it is not that flush. The rear is okay but the front offset needs to be lower in that width IMO.(especially if you have any negative camber) Go with 17x9 +24 all around and it should look relatively good (again depending on your defintion of flush...) Unless you run crazy big tires. Also, don't be afraid to roll your fenders, or get it done professionally.... BAM extra 10mm of clearence!

EDIT: Here is the car I was talking about. http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/314750
very close to the offsets/widths you were talking about.
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Ya, as you can tell by HIS post count he obviously doesnt have much better things to do that post useless crap like he did and increase his post count.


Anyhow, hers a pic of my S14. I have 17x8 and 17x9 +23 on both. The rears are just perfect IMO. I run 225/45 up front and 245/40 in back. he fronts could use a tiny bit more to be flush but im not concerned about that.
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If you clicked on the link I posted above you would see a 17x8 +25 up front 18x9 +25 in the rear on an S14 and see that it is not that flush. The rear is okay but the front offset needs to be lower in that width IMO.(especially if you have any negative camber) Go with 17x9 +24 all around and it should look relatively good (again depending on your defintion of flush...) Unless you run crazy big tires. Also, don't be afraid to roll your fenders, or get it done professionally.... BAM extra 10mm of clearence!
Maybe I am not thinking this out right....again that's why I posted though .

Wouldn't a 17x9 with +24mm stick out about 1/2 more than a 17x8 with +25mm? On the fronts that may be outside the fender based on the link you sent.

Also would just dropping $600 on Cobra R wheels (I will have custom centers made) with tires like new be the best bang for buck? I'd love to drop more cash on SSR's / Gram Lights / etc but I also want to add to my home theatre, my stereo/suspension/brakes, upgrade my PC, save for my house purchase next year so it becomes drawing a line somewhere. I need new tires within two months more or less (torsion bushings fuxored my tires).

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wow these posts are just so typical of zilvia...it's just exhausting to read It's a shame there IS so much info on this site because I wouldn't even come here to learn if I didn't have to or want to. it's a constant battle between the people that KNOW EVERYTHING about teh 240 with a thousand posts+ and the people that have just a few...I myself am in the middle.
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Those threads everyone says "search" for are sort of worthless too (the ones mentioned) as they don't tell you rubbing, alignment issues, etc.

I don't see the point of building a car if you do everything people tell you. Wouldn't that make it someone else's car and not yours in a way?

Do your own research, draw your own conclusions, make your own mistakes.

If you want to ask a question, that's cool. Just expect people to trash you. It's the internet.

Also realize that it is the internet, and that it's one of the largest resources you could ever have, every answer you want is out there, You just have to find it.
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Maybe I am not thinking this out right....again that's why I posted though .

Wouldn't a 17x9 with +24mm stick out about 1/2 more than a 17x8 with +25mm? On the fronts that may be outside the fender based on the link you sent.

Also would just dropping $600 on Cobra R wheels (I will have custom centers made) with tires like new be the best bang for buck? I'd love to drop more cash on SSR's / Gram Lights / etc but I also want to add to my home theatre, my stereo/suspension/brakes, upgrade my PC, save for my house purchase next year so it becomes drawing a line somewhere. I need new tires within two months more or less (torsion bushings fuxored my tires).

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You mean 1/2 an inch? That makes sense to me. But as the first guy posted he's running 17x9 +22 with 235's and doesn't seem to have any issues with near stock camber.

What you could do is this...(since you don't seem set on what rims yet)
Look through the thread I posted and search around the forums and find what you define as FLUSH. Keeping in mind tire size, camber, and whether fender is rolled as those will be essential to offset/width sizing. Then takes those specs and plug them in to the offset calculator. Then you can base what you consider flush against any rim you might buy!

Unfortunately I can't remember all that the calculator shows you. (for some reason it doesn't work on my compy) but try it anyway.
As for Cobra rims... That's totally up to you. Consider what you want to do with the car. Good Luck

PS- I'm not a know-it-all by any means. Most of the offset junk I've learned on here. Doesn't make me an expert by any means. Most everything you can think of can be answered or figured out by using the WWW
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I don't see the point of building a car if you do everything people tell you. Wouldn't that make it someone else's car and not yours in a way?
WTF? did you think this out or just want to poop here? Asking someone for advice on a fitiment is a lot different than asking 'what's wheels should I use?'

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Do your own research, draw your own conclusions, make your own mistakes.

If you want to ask a question, that's cool. Just expect people to trash you. It's the internet.

Also realize that it is the internet, and that it's one of the largest resources you could ever have, every answer you want is out there, You just have to find it.
You do realize I have been on the 'internet' before it even was the internet prior to 1983. Yeah crap like the drivel you posted here is common. You have asshats saying search in one breath and other's saying <as if web veterans> "You get flamed for asking questions....so just don't do it". Fact is more or less of those flaming are usually just pissed they cannot be part of whatever is going on...either way it doesn't bother me.

Anyways...my research is here as well as looking around other places. Asking for a specific 3 sizes on a specific model. Tire size to answer (I thought it was understood) will be within 3% of stock....235/45, 255/40 depending on the 8" vs 9" wheel, etc. If one simply has no clue they don't have to contribute. Me looking at pictures of other's setups only gets me so far...I have no idea on rubbing, rolled fenders, if a spacer is used, etc.

Buying a set of wheels and being stuck with them if they don't fit is not something I'd like to do.
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What you could do is this...(since you don't seem set on what rims yet)
Look through the thread I posted and search around the forums and find what you define as FLUSH. Keeping in mind tire size, camber, and whether fender is rolled as those will be essential to offset/width sizing. Then takes those specs and plug them in to the offset calculator. Then you can base what you consider flush against any rim you might buy!
I like this calc, I have it already, but I can't find the exact size on my stock wheels. The offset is listed as 34 to 43 in many places....I thought it was 43mm 6JJx16...now i am not sure.

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Well yes that is true, same way with just sitting down at a wheel shop and spending the day testing wheel/tire combos....but then why have discussion forums?
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I like this calc, I have it already, but I can't find the exact size on my stock wheels. The offset is listed as 34 to 43 in many places....I thought it was 43mm 6JJx16...now i am not sure.
That's why I suggested using a size that you consider flush, b/c is stock is definately not..

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Well yes that is true, same way with just sitting down at a wheel shop and spending the day testing wheel/tire combos....but then why have discussion forums?
to post your findings!
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wow why is everyone so freakin lazy and dumb these days. Either a) find someone with similar offests, alignment will be different and so will tire size, so shoot low and roll fenders (thats like 15mm), or shoot high and add spacers. The interenet has made too many people lazy, can't think for yourselfs, and when someone calls you out on it, you cry and try to attack that person with the little you know of them through the boards instead of admitting you were wrong. And our posts do go up for making posts like this, so your not the first to be an idiot if that makes you feel better.
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well here I go....

I just had a thread asking about clearance with FN01R-Cs and basically everyone was pretty helpful. It helped me figure out how wide I want to go and with what offset to keep from having to modify my fenders and keep camber as stock as possible.

My suggestion to you is this....take the HELPFUL info you get here on Zilvia, and look at some company websites for rim sizes and offsets and what's compatible with our cars. Like the 5Zigen website shows the applications each rim will fit so you can easily see what you should even pursue and what's gonna be way more trouble than it's worth. Also don't be afraid to email these companies with questions. They get paid to answer this stuff and they really never flame you they just answer you short and sweet.

My findings were: 17x8 +25 offset with 235/40 or 245/40 will clear with no mods, but with not be completely flush. Alot better than stock look. 17x9 +35 with 245/40, maybe 255/40, will definitely clear rears, maybe fronts, will not be flush in the rear, almost, mot sure about flushness in front. Might be some camber issues for clearance. I'm gonna go with 17x8 +25 235/40 all around for rotation, should look really clean and better than stock. Keep in mind this is all with FN01R-C rims. You know with the calc in here you can just take those measurements and go out to your car and MEASURE the distances!! Try it, really puts things into perspective.

The best advice I can give about web forums is that you just have to take the good info with the bad posts. Filter out what you need and move on. I really just like reading this stuff cause I like to see what everyone says to eachother. It's funny how everyone is so brave and hardcore and bold sitting behind their computer within the saftey of their cubicle (me) or bedroom....ha it cracks me up....see if they act the same way to your face. Hell I probably wouldn't unless you were a total retard in real life, then you deserve a little ridicule.

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