halokilller

Ive been looking around for a 240sx to get into drifting with and I am finding a large number with swaps. I researched and found that basically only ka's are smog legal in california. Are there any other options because I am trying to steer clear of sr's and rb's. The stock hp doesnt seem good enough to hold a drift. I know its a newb question but any help will be appreciated!

mowgli 240sx

go ls powered then or drop in an engine from a z33

rb's and sr's are illegal in ca

iveexcaped3

all swaps are illegal in ca only thing you gotta worry about it getting it "smogged" then you can put in any thing you want, you can do the z swap but its alot of work to get it to pass

PRADOgy

The KA does fine. I don't know what kind of money you posses, but if you are going to spend the kind of money to make the power you are looking for street legal, you might as well go with another car all together that already makes the kind of power you are looking for.

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zerodameaon

+1 LS for street legal as long as all of the engines equipment, mainly stuff dealing with emissions, is OEM. There is a really decent build on here where the guy almost passed bar if it hadn't been for a aftermarket FPR.

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iveexcaped3

I could have sworn I read some where you cant mix manufactures example Chevy to Nissan or Ford to Toyota just can only swap Nissan for Nissan but only for a newer year of the vehicle its transfering into. I'm not 100% positive on this but its worth looking into

S14DB

The only official thing is Car to Car. No truck engines in cars. If it was legal for sale in CA you can drop it in with all emissions components. The rest is just getting a Ref that understands what you are doing.

What I don't get is that the OP is in Chicago.

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iveexcaped3

Yeah I know you had to swap all the emissions and stuff that was in the other vehicles. And I know I read your not allowed to swap to an older motor than the one that came in your car. Like i can't swap my 90 engine for a 83 but can any thing after 90. Once again not 100% can't believe everything you read on the internet lol

slims13

i'm pretty sure you can't switch up manufactures. has to be newer, and it has to be an engine offered in that car to get bar'd. thats why all the sti swaps are legal, its a pain in the ass to get a car bar'd tho. i've heard of people going as far as swapping out gas tanks to get bar'd. like wtf?

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halokilller

thanks for the replies guys, I know I can look at another car but the 240sx seems like the best starter drift car that I could learn in and then possibly do a ls swap with, other cars seem to be much heavier even though they offer more power

brndck

why are you worried about california when it says youre in chicago?

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I have yet to see a BAR'd LSx in a s-chassis.

I thought the biggest issue was the stock LS header got in the way of the steering shaft or something?

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i contacted jordaninnovations, ill see what he says

iveexcaped3

thats because no one wants to deal with the head ache of a bar car and all the shit you have to swap for it, 80% of the s chassis in cali arent legal

halokilller

really? i thought only a small percentage were swapped, so do 80% "buy" passing smog

EDacIouSX

it's not 80%... it's an exaggeration. But a lot are swapped.

Gizmo_S13

You can always keep it dual cam, camshafts, q45 throttle boy, I/H/E, and a good tune an that'll be more than enough to get you going. Yes, the majority of S chassis owners are running swaps.

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halokilller

sounds good, thanks for all of the help guys!

soreballz

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Karlitos

x2. go read the CA Air Research Board rules. They're all over the internet, and explain everything. Can't be from different class vehicle (truck to car, vice versa) has to be same year or newer. Has to meet emission standards for the year of the new engine. No emissions may be modified in the swap (stock intake/headers/etc).

I've heard of a bar'd vq swap somewhere. I havent heard of an LSx swap because you will never get the stock headers to fit. Unless someone does CARB legal swap headers, but probably not worth the hassle/headache/money.

Sell your s-chassis and get an s2000. 250hp stock is more than enough than you'll ever need. Add a hardtop, wing, and tires and you'll be going under 2 minutes around BW in no time.

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iveexcaped3

glad someone understands sarcasm lol

zerodameaon

First post fail.

Here is that LS3 almost BAR'ed swap I was talking about, Only thing that kept him from passing was the FPR. Dont say never. http://zilvia.net/f/builds-builds-on...h-hate-v8.html

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brndck

not true. you can put any manufacturer engine in any other car, for instance, i can put honda in my nissan, or ford in my dodge, ect.

You cannot put truck into car, and vice versa. Must be your model year or newer. if my car is a 2000, i must put a 2000 or newer engine, and i must incorporate ALL of the emissions equipment that came from the car that the engine was out of.

THIS is where the problem lies, many newer cars have emissions equipment built into the factory gas tank, so it makes it extremely difficult to transfer that equipment over to another vehicle.

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halokilller

thanks again guys, I would look into a s2k or even a 350z but I need a car with a back seat and something I could learn with. I might start looking into g35's but they are heavier and more expensive to deal with

slims13

well shit. guess i was wrong. and have been flamed for it. i've still never heard of anyone actually baring anything like an ls motor in a 240. regardless if someone "almost" did. i always thought the motor had to be offered in that chassis at one time or another, thats why all the civic boys are bar'd but no one else. guess not.

drift freaq

That is the only reason why it was easy for the Honda boys to get bar'd.
Same thing with NA 2nd gen MR2's who decided to go 3SGTe. Since the Turbo engine was offered in the car U.S.. A lot of guys put in the imported Japanese 2nd or 3rd gen 3SGTe engines and got by smogging them because of it .

Yes it helped them but it did not define the letter of the law.

Lots of engine swaps from one manufacturer to another have been done legally in California. I am not talking about 240's here. Your frame of reference is rather narrow and not representative of engine swapping or hot rodding in general.

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halokilller

what other options should I consider for a drift car if a ka isnt enough hp? It would need to be 4 seater

Steo

One of my friend is making 280hp to the wheel with a vh45 stock motor with just a log exhaust manifold. Where in California r u moving to? There's plenty of q45 in any salvage yard in La or San Diego u could get a full motor for less then $300 if u go on a Half day sale. Visit v8nissans.com