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Old 01-01-2014, 11:05 PM   #1
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shooting for 300-350 whp on stock internal SR20

I have a red top SR20DET that I'm hoping to get 300-350 whp out of without having to change up the bottom end and I have a few questions.

First has to do with my turbo. I would really like to keep the stock bottom mount style turbo manifold and use my existing megan elbow, so that leaves me with the T25 or T28 correct? I have heard good things about the ball bearing T28 but its a little out of my budget and perhaps a little more finicky with oil pressure. Not to mention it's difficulty to rebuild.

I'm looking at using Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors and a circuit sport top mount fuel rail. Does it matter if the opening is 11 or 14? Or will it be a max of 1000cc of flow either way?

Looking at getting a MAP ecu set up since the tuner that everyone in my area suggests, suggests that method of tuning. Megasquirt works well?

Would rocker arm stoppers and ARP head studs be suggested as insurance? I'm taking my head off anyways to do a head gasket anyways. The stock head bolts are torque to yield right?

Any manual boost controllers you would suggest?

Would that be about it? I'm looking at spending around 2 to 2.5k on this whole thing. Doable?

I currently have an ebay front mount intercooler set up and a clutch good for 400 whp
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I have a red top SR20DET that I'm hoping to get 300-350 whp out of without having to change up the bottom end and I have a few questions.

My Friend was pretty much in the same boat as you months ago, so I'll tell you what I recommended, what he tried to do and what he ended doing. IIRC he made 385ps on a dynapak


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First has to do with my turbo. I would really like to keep the stock bottom mount style turbo manifold and use my existing megan elbow, so that leaves me with the T25 or T28 correct? I have heard good things about the ball bearing T28 but its a little out of my budget and perhaps a little more finicky with oil pressure. Not to mention it's difficulty to rebuild.
What is your budget? I recommended him the GTX2867 or the GT2871. cheap ebay turbo's work as well but I wouldn't go that route but whatever is in your price range do it.

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I'm looking at using Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors and a circuit sport top mount fuel rail. Does it matter if the opening is 11 or 14? Or will it be a max of 1000cc of flow either way?
I recommended Nismo 740cc or similar , he went with your suggestion with a GSP mani, lots on money wasted as it didn't fit. Hood wouldn't close, other parts wouldn't line up etc. 740cc were used.

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Looking at getting a MAP ecu set up since the tuner that everyone in my area suggests, suggests that method of tuning. Megasquirt works well?
No idea about megasquirt but he went with the MAP version of the PFC, If you're limited to tuners I'd get what they suggest or if you have the money get what you want and take the ECU to someone out of the area with the knowledge to tune it.(I say this cause tuning will be the hardest part, if the tuner is crap or isn't comfortable with the standalone your outcome will be less the optimal.

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Would rocker arm stoppers and ARP head studs be suggested as insurance? I'm taking my head off anyways to do a head gasket anyways. The stock head bolts are torque to yield right?
I'd stick with a stock gasket, if it's good. He went with the Cometic IIRC and poncams, I'm running a GTX2867R/EWG on stock HG and cams

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Any manual boost controllers you would suggest?
I prefer Blitz SBC ID, whatever EBC works for you.

Would that be about it? I'm looking at spending around 2 to 2.5k on this whole thing. Doable?

What Fuel pump do you have?

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I currently have an ebay front mount intercooler set up and a clutch good for 400 whp

There is a 100 ways the skin this cat, but I will say talk to the mech/tuner, see what he recommends and do some research to make sure he is not up selling you. Any respectable shop should have a cost effective recommendation for the customers and best way IMO. My personal friend owns a shop in the local area, where he works on circuit cars for race teams, R&D for a major car company and regular enthusiast. He works with all to get them what they need.
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What Fuel pump do you have?
Walboro 255, got that taken care of. Also looking at running E85 just because it's cheaper, higher octane, and runs cooler than gas.
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255 fuel pump, 550 injectors, gt28, z32 maf, rom tune.

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1000cc injectors on a t25 or t28? smart..


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Im surprised there arent too many folks Roasting this thread.

First of All. Go S15 T28, theyre cheap, reliable, and Made to work well with your SR cuz NISSAN DESIGNED IT THAT WAY. THROW IN some 550cc Injectors, get an electronic Boost controller, z32 MAF, & a Nistune on Your ECU. Get her tuned from 14.6psi to 16psi somewhere where shes not knocking and Baaam. Reliable 300-340hp at the ground.

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^You're thinking of a 2871 for about 340 at 14-16 psi. I don't see even a s15 t28 making that much over 300.
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^You're thinking of a 2871 for about 340 at 14-16 psi. I don't see even a s15 t28 making that much over 300.
Mine makes 326hp & 268ftlbs @ 16psi. I have an S15 T28, Sard 550's, z32 maf, Apexi Avcr Boost controller, trust 3" elbow & downpipe, & a Redline Efi Rom tune

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That's my point, not much over 300 :P
Lol. Well his goal is right there. 300-350. Im smack dab in the middle. :beer:

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hmm this should be interesting... im looking to make around the same amount as well.. guess im gonna have to start looking into another turbo.. not to troll this doods thread but what is the best turbo to get equal torque and HP?
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hmm this should be interesting... im looking to make around the same amount as well.. guess im gonna have to start looking into another turbo.. not to troll this doods thread but what is the best turbo to get equal torque and HP?
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hmm this should be interesting... im looking to make around the same amount as well.. guess im gonna have to start looking into another turbo.. not to troll this doods thread but what is the best turbo to get equal torque and HP?
All of them. At 5252 rpm
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I'm kind of going to thread jack here... I have a few things like 444cc injectors from a gtir, a holset 351, and rb25 maf. I have a (noob mistake) 1.8mm cosworth headgasket, fmic, healthy rebuilt motor with 6k miles on it. I want 300 whp or something around there? What are my options? I'm trying to keep expenses down and deal with what i have.

444cc, rb25maf, t28 or slightly bigger turbo, enthalpy or nistune ecu
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I'm kind of going to thread jack here... I have a few things like 444cc injectors from a gtir, a holset 351, and rb25 maf. I have a (noob mistake) 1.8mm cosworth headgasket, fmic, healthy rebuilt motor with 6k miles on it. I want 300 whp or something around there? What are my options? I'm trying to keep expenses down and deal with what i have.

444cc, rb25maf, t28 or slightly bigger turbo, enthalpy or nistune ecu
your power comes from your compressor. You want 300whp you need a compressor that can flow 34lb/min, give or take depending on your fuel and how hard you push it.
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why dump 2k to 2500 into a sr and not consider spending that money on the bottom end first??
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why dump 2k to 2500 into a sr and not consider spending that money on the bottom end first??
1. I've take it you've never built a bottom end
2. If you have, I take it you've never put 50,000 miles on that bottom end
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2. If you have, I take it you've never put 50,000 miles on that bottom end
Lol sure thing bud dont be making judgement on people u dont know
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Because it's overkill...
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I guess depends what your gonna use it for and if you plan on keeping it. What good is all those other parts when u spin a bearing?
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your power comes from your compressor. You want 300whp you need a compressor that can flow 34lb/min, give or take depending on your fuel and how hard you push it.
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