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BOROSUN · 09-25-2009, 03:44 AM

ooh yeah

*notice the health god mode

Om1kron · 09-25-2009, 04:01 AM

I have the whole wing commander collection on disc and it's all still playable. I even have the extra missions origin posted online for download to expand wing commander 5. (the first downloadable content for a game ever in 1998.)

Kings Quest 5 was so hard to beat.

I mean nintendo, genesis so many cool old games but lets be real lets talk computer games because most of us didn't know shit about console games to give a shit about them. People say certain games are epic because everyone else thinks they're epic.

mario 64 epic because it was different, not epic because seriously it's just mario updated.

Strike Commander (arcade jet fighting action) BONER TIME

Leisure Suit Larry, Sam and Max, and many other old lucas arts titles.

fear effect (the first cell shaded video game EVER)

om1kron : fucking awesome, run around possessing other people to accomplish tasks in a game.

Indigo Prophecy, Max Payne

I mean so many epic games like that cannot be made anymore because every game now a day takes an old idea and runs with it while throwing in shit from other ideas.

Thus making it lame.

want a new world war shooter, or vietnam shooter, how about a pacific fighters plane game. Why doesn't anyone make arcade flight sim/action games anymore? Why aren't there more games like

7th guest and 11th hour where your decisions caused the story to change leaving ENDLESS possibilities for the endings (oh that's right people do that with all games now, just it's another excuse for me not to trade it as fast.)

fuck video games... lol

BustedS13 · 09-25-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chibo

CTF in Team Fortress Classic, Q3A, and to a smaller extent - UT2003 were pretty godly. I wonder if we will ever get another truly fast game that lets you take advantage of game physics as much as Quake 3. Check out DeFrag videos if you want to get an idea of what I am talking about.
Watch this shit:
YouTube - AnnihilatioN - Q3 - own-age Part 2/3 <- this video is normal game speed, everything feels slow as shit now a days compared to this

The in the air rocketing / railing / rocket juggling was a normal thing. The timing was all perfect where it became second nature to lead people correctly when they had jumped from a given area.

fuck yeah rocket jumping.
do you remember the q3a ads in magazines? the one i really remember was a condom machine and all the guns were different condoms. but there were some other good ones.

Om1kron · 09-25-2009, 04:05 AM

man quake three fucked my fps life up, there is not one fps where people don't try and strafe jump. Any fps you play will have dolphin diving, jumping to avoid getting shot, and nade spamming.

it's hilarious while lame. damn you quake 3.

BustedS13 · 09-25-2009, 04:14 AM

there's no denying that quake 3 was the best there ever was. Id knows it, too. looking forward to the final release of Quake Live and the XBL version. i'm going to play the shit out of the XBL version.

theronin · 09-25-2009, 12:06 PM

you want an epic game? get a PS3 and go get Prototype. best game i have played in a very long time.

aznpoopy · 09-25-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chibo

What is it with games these days? I remember when Unreal came out and revolutionized the world with -real graphics-. I remember when Half-Life came out and brought a true story and immersion to games. I remember when Q3A came out and brought the hardcore FPS genre into existance. Lately everything has been done and there is really no revolution happening anywhere, it seems like companies are just pumping games out that lack depth to make a profit.

based on the games you listed, when you say epic you basically mean landmark. i'm not really sure how often you expect those games to hit, but it wasn't all that often back in the day, and it's certainly not going to be very often now.

i think that in your nostalgia, you have forgotten about the glut of shitty FPS games that were being released alongside and inbetween those landmark games. there were alot of them, and they were pretty bad.

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Originally Posted by chibo

On the terms of MMOs nothing decent has come out since WoW. I've played my fair share of Korean MMOs which are based around anime chicks, grinding, and hats/clothes for show and I've also played WoW on and off since open beta. Played EQ and UO back in the day as well. It seems like nothing has come out since WoW, I mean Aion just came out and it turns out to be a very overhyped KMMO - I'm pretty disappointed.

it's hard as hell to make a really successful MMO. there have only been 2 real landmark mmos, IMO. EQ and WOW. the old republic may be a third, we'll see.

*exitspeed* · 09-25-2009, 12:19 PM

I've been gaming since Atari and NES. I have always preferred console games. The reason now that I don't like PC games is that it seems to enjoy these games to the fullest you HAVE to play online with people, and that seems to be the norm with FPS and a lot of game son 360.

F that. I like old school games that focused on single player.

This is why I'm loving Shadow Complex so much. It feels like I'm playing a new old classic game. I finally got my Super Metroid sequel. Again focusing on single player. This game to me is the best game I've played in 5 years.

PC games ruined that feel for me.

Sleepy240 · 09-25-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

The reason now that I don't like PC games is that it seems to enjoy these games to the fullest you HAVE to play online with people, and that seems to be the norm with FPS and a lot of game son 360

You hit the nail on the head. And its not just consoles, PC games are the same. They all believe that nowadays you CANNOT have a successful game without a badass multiplayer game. They skimp on all the single player aspects and solely focus on the online play, which too me is a huge downside and really turns me off to ALOT of games.

*exitspeed* · 09-25-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy240

You hit the nail on the head. And its not just consoles, PC games are the same. They all believe that nowadays you CANNOT have a successful game without a badass multiplayer game. They skimp on all the single player aspects and solely focus on the online play, which too me is a huge downside and really turns me off to ALOT of games.

Cool.

I don't mind playing online, but I'd actually rather play solo. And I know I'm in the minority now a days.

The main reason I don't like playing online are the immature little kids that I always run into. It's really frustrating. This is the main reason I let my Live subscription run out a year ago.

Sleepy240 · 09-25-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Cool.

I don't mind playing online, but I'd actually rather play solo. And I know I'm in the minority now a days.

The main reason I don't like playing online are the immature little kids that I always run into. It's really frustrating. This is the main reason I let my Live subscription run out a year ago.

I'm with ya there. But I mean even the very popular games, like take for instance CoD4. It easily could have had one of these best campaigns in a console game in quite some time. Instead the whole campaign takes nothing more than a few hours. The companies seem to expect you to spend all your time online. And honestly I think some of it has to do with the negative stereotype single player video games had early on, with it being some nerdy kid in a basement with glasses. Now I don't think its like that now with video games appealing to a very broad spectrum of individuals. I just think companies should really shift their focus back onto gameplay rather just online gaming.

jh3xp · 09-25-2009, 12:59 PM

Modern warfare 2. Nov. 11

*exitspeed* · 09-25-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleepy240

I'm with ya there. But I mean even the very popular games, like take for instance CoD4. It easily could have had one of these best campaigns in a console game in quite some time. Instead the whole campaign takes nothing more than a few hours. The companies seem to expect you to spend all your time online. And honestly I think some of it has to do with the negative stereotype single player video games had early on, with it being some nerdy kid in a basement with glasses. Now I don't think its like that now with video games appealing to a very broad spectrum of individuals. I just think companies should really shift their focus back onto gameplay rather just online gaming.

Secrets. WTF happened to secrets in games? Again, something i greatly miss form games and am really enjoying in Shadow Complex.

The other thing about so many FPS games for me is...I'm not a big FPS fan in the first place. I used to play W3D and Doom back int eh day and have had my share of FPS's, but the market is SOOOOOOO saturated with them now. They all seem the same too me too. Like why play one over the other, and then I just say fuck it and don't play any.

drftmark · 09-25-2009, 01:17 PM

Duke Nukem 3D was badass. I was playing that when I was like 5, pressing space bar to get the strippers to show me their 3d boobies by making the cash rainnnn on them. dolla dolla billz

Doom was also really cool when I was young.

0100 · 09-25-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I've been gaming since Atari and NES. I have always preferred console games. The reason now that I don't like PC games is that it seems to enjoy these games to the fullest you HAVE to play online with people, and that seems to be the norm with FPS and a lot of game son 360.

F that. I like old school games that focused on single player.

This is why I'm loving Shadow Complex so much. It feels like I'm playing a new old classic game. I finally got my Super Metroid sequel. Again focusing on single player. This game to me is the best game I've played in 5 years.

PC games ruined that feel for me.

+1 I am right with ya. I am going to have to try SC now, as this is just the type of game I like. 2D all the way!! It's how I like my animation too. If you haven't tried Castlevania Symphony of the Night, play that when you finish SC, that is an epic game I think you may like. I like 3D games if they are good, and while I am on Castlevania, I hope Lords of Shadow is good.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xal...ile_videogames

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14275...08_082008.html

*exitspeed* · 09-25-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 0100

+1 I am right with ya. I am going to have to try SC now, as this is just the type of game I like. 2D all the way!! It's how I like my animation too. If you haven't tried Castlevania Symphony of the Night, play that when you finish SC, that is an epic game I think you may like. I like 3D games if they are good, and while I am on Castlevania, I hope Lords of Shadow is good.

For the longest time I thought I was alone in this need for 2D side scrolling games. But now that SC has broke sales records I realize I'm not alone.

This gives me high hopes that either Metroid Other M is going to be very similar to SC or that there is a SC type Metroid game in the near future. They can't deny that people want this kind of gameplay now. I actually loved Metroid Prime. Really loved it. I'd put it up there in my top 20 games of all time. But Super Metroid is even higher on my list.

HyperTek · 09-25-2009, 01:47 PM

now guys im happy for your fps games, and imma let you finish, but grand prix legends from 98 was one of the best racing sims of all time. *when Sierra was producing awesome games like half life, red baron 3d etc*

People still mod and play it today, its the grand daddy of pc racing sims.

and red baron 3d from 97

HyperTek · 09-25-2009, 01:51 PM

battlefield 2 with the ENBseries mod, looks just as good as todays games

hell they got the new patch for the regular bf2 that gives you all the add on content for free now, i feel like i might have to bust my old copy out

Kougeki · 09-25-2009, 01:52 PM

HOW DO YOU GUYS POST EMBEDDED VIDEOS?!

0100 · 09-25-2009, 02:02 PM

quote someone to find your answer...

shishcabobers · 09-25-2009, 02:03 PM

^ [.yt](insert code here) [./yt]

chibo · 09-25-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aznpoopy

based on the games you listed, when you say epic you basically mean landmark. i'm not really sure how often you expect those games to hit, but it wasn't all that often back in the day, and it's certainly not going to be very often now.

i think that in your nostalgia, you have forgotten about the glut of shitty FPS games that were being released alongside and inbetween those landmark games. there were alot of them, and they were pretty bad.

I guess, but I can't really remember buying games and being utterly disappointed in them like I have lately. By epic games I mean games that stayed around a long time with a good community. Hell, I just realized I've been playing Counter-Strike on and off for the past 10 years - that community sucks now but still.

*exitspeed* · 09-25-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chibo

I guess, but I can't really remember buying games and being utterly disappointed in them like I have lately. By epic games I mean games that stayed around a long time with a good community. Hell, I just realized I've been playing Counter-Strike on and off for the past 10 years - that community sucks now but still.

That's how I feel games like Super Metroid are, minus the community part.

I mean I can turn on my Wii right now (or when i get home) and start up a new game on S.Metroid and it still feels like an epic classic game. It only feels remotely dated because of the graphics. The gameplay is timeless.

But I agree, games feel very "throw-away" now. Gears of War was like that for me. I beat it and had zero interest in playing it ever again. I traded it in really quick and got a bunch of money for it.

BustedS13 · 09-25-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by theronin

you want an epic game? get a PS3 and go get Prototype. best game i have played in a very long time.

i have it for 360, it's kind of cool, but not epic :/

Matej · 09-25-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperTek

and red baron 3d from 97

Red Baron was cool, I remember playing that.

Some other games I spent time playing besides Fallout and Diablo:

Commandos 1 & 2 (totally awesome)
Worms 2 & Armageddon (funny, and really fun on multiplayer)
Carmageddon 1 & 2 (fun physics, humor, and +8 seconds for every pedestrian run over)
Heroes of Might & Magic 3 (fun multiplayer)
Age of Empires 1 & 2 (I like historic games)
Need for Speed II (probably my first game)
GTA 1 & 2 (classic)

Never really got into console games much, other than GTA and SOCOM, and l ended up playing GTA on PC anyway.

ESmorz · 09-25-2009, 04:17 PM

Age of Empires II

The only RTS I ever enjoyed.

ronmcdon · 09-25-2009, 04:57 PM

I really enjoyed PC strategy/rts games.

Stuff like Dawn of War, Comapany of Heroes, Heroes of Might & Magick series, Civilization, Rome, etc.

MMO rpg's were really more of a pita, looking back
I had my share of WOW.
It becomes more tedious as you have to rely & coordinate group efforts to things done.
eventually the game becomes more of tedious chore, having to put up with bratty kids, and needless internet drama.

Thing I don't like about modern games, is that they're too time demanding.
I don't have whole afternoons to play some 'such & such' campaign,
or to dedicate 5 hours an evening to do some group quest on WoW.

theronin · 09-25-2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BustedS13

i have it for 360, it's kind of cool, but not epic :/

HOLY CRAP PROTOTYPE CAME OUT ON THE 360?!?!?! holy crap busted, you just blew my mind. i thought it was a ps3 exclusive.

you want another epic single player game? check out the god of war series, or the Devil May Cry series. packed with many secrets, and the stories are just as you say EPIC!

*fliprayzin240sx* · 09-25-2009, 06:14 PM

Question: Why are there no epic games anymore?

Answer: Because game companies have all fucking sold out to make a quick buck just like every fucking industry in the US. Fuck making something because you love doing it (putting your soul and heart into it = quality), you just wanna get paid.

slowpo · 09-25-2009, 06:38 PM

Shenmue was the best game ever.

09-25-2009, 04:01 AM	#32
Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	I have the whole wing commander collection on disc and it's all still playable. I even have the extra missions origin posted online for download to expand wing commander 5. (the first downloadable content for a game ever in 1998.) Kings Quest 5 was so hard to beat. I mean nintendo, genesis so many cool old games but lets be real lets talk computer games because most of us didn't know shit about console games to give a shit about them. People say certain games are epic because everyone else thinks they're epic. mario 64 epic because it was different, not epic because seriously it's just mario updated. Strike Commander (arcade jet fighting action) BONER TIME Leisure Suit Larry, Sam and Max, and many other old lucas arts titles. fear effect (the first cell shaded video game EVER) om1kron : fucking awesome, run around possessing other people to accomplish tasks in a game. Indigo Prophecy, Max Payne I mean so many epic games like that cannot be made anymore because every game now a day takes an old idea and runs with it while throwing in shit from other ideas. Thus making it lame. want a new world war shooter, or vietnam shooter, how about a pacific fighters plane game. Why doesn't anyone make arcade flight sim/action games anymore? Why aren't there more games like 7th guest and 11th hour where your decisions caused the story to change leaving ENDLESS possibilities for the endings (oh that's right people do that with all games now, just it's another excuse for me not to trade it as fast.) fuck video games... lol __________________ Wayne

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Om1kron Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 40 Posts: 6,879 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	man quake three fucked my fps life up, there is not one fps where people don't try and strafe jump. Any fps you play will have dolphin diving, jumping to avoid getting shot, and nade spamming. it's hilarious while lame. damn you quake 3. __________________ Wayne

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BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	there's no denying that quake 3 was the best there ever was. Id knows it, too. looking forward to the final release of Quake Live and the XBL version. i'm going to play the shit out of the XBL version. __________________

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HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	battlefield 2 with the ENBseries mod, looks just as good as todays games hell they got the new patch for the regular bf2 that gives you all the add on content for free now, i feel like i might have to bust my old copy out __________________ Keep it Classy

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I really enjoyed PC strategy/rts games. Stuff like Dawn of War, Comapany of Heroes, Heroes of Might & Magick series, Civilization, Rome, etc. MMO rpg's were really more of a pita, looking back I had my share of WOW. It becomes more tedious as you have to rely & coordinate group efforts to things done. eventually the game becomes more of tedious chore, having to put up with bratty kids, and needless internet drama. Thing I don't like about modern games, is that they're too time demanding. I don't have whole afternoons to play some 'such & such' campaign, or to dedicate 5 hours an evening to do some group quest on WoW.

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