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Old 07-27-2011, 05:28 PM   #1
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LS1 350z Drift Build 'Nuff Said'

Okay it is time for me to start this build thread. First I would like to say this has been a long time coming and I just can't wait for the finish product to be done. I will do this build in stages and tell you everything, from building the engine to suspension work. I will also make note of how much everything cost since that is a big deal for everyone that wants to do an LS build. I will post an update once a week with pics so there will be something to look at..And last but not least I will post a beer of the week, since I love crafted beers:thumbup: So lets get started!!



Wanted to post this pic here.. Some of you know my car and some of you don't. but it has been through so many wheels/looks its not funny.. But it will not look like this any more and hopefully the last change.....

STAGE 1: Phase 1...'Engine tear down and clean up'





Let's start this with the beer of the week.. One of my Favs 'DogFish Head 90 Min' Good stuff



First thing was the purchase of this LS1 longblock that I got off of LS1tech.com. You can find a lot of useful info on there so def check it out..



A little dirty but that will all change. Had 38k on it and the owner had the Bottom end torn down by a local machine shop (to check the condition of it which was great still) and had all the bearings replaced, ls6 oil pump installed, ls2 timing chain, ARP rod bolts.. All this for the price of $1500



In my opinion not a bad purchases since I plan on changing and adding a lot of aftermarket parts..



First thing I saw was this little chip on the crank balancer pulley.. a no go in my book and will get replaced...



Now lets crack open these heads and see what we have.. To do so you will need a 10mm to unbolt all the head bolts.



Nasty:icon22: I don't like how dirty they are so I will send these off to the machine shop to get cleaned..



To have the heads ready for the machine shop, I went to Advance Auto parts to rent out there Valve Spring Compressor. This is a free service through them and you guys should def take advantage of it.. Just leave a deposit and you get it back when you return it..



Comes with everything you need to get the job done.. It is kind of like a big ass C clamp



I placed a little rubber cap over the end of the compressor so it would not F up the valves..




Lets do this... Gloves are :thumbup:




This is how you use this tool for those that don't know. The Heads have to be off the engine to use this tool.



Placement of the tool



next is getting these damn Valve seals out.. Just use pliers and a lot of force..



Then remove the retainers...



Bam!!! everything is all done and ready to send to machine shop..

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Okay got them back from the machine shop from their bath.. and man does it look so much better.. Price of this service is only $25 a head...

So Build total so far is $1550


Next week: STAGE 1: Phase 2 'Cam/Pulley Install'
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nice documentation so far.
last pic....are those valves bent? hah, they're tilting.
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yea edafe!! glad to see this happen.

Not 100% on this, but i may be getting rid of the s13 to dump some cash in the Z but we'll see.
Either way im not stayin out of texas any time soon
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dont get me wrong, im not against the v8. but why? i understand the swap into 240s. the motor that comes with 240s in stock from sucks donkey balls.

the motor that comes with this car isnt all that bad. wouldnt take much to get the vq up to what the ls1 has right?
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dont get me wrong, im not against the v8. but why? i understand the swap into 240s. the motor that comes with 240s in stock from sucks donkey balls.

the motor that comes with this car isnt all that bad. wouldnt take much to get the vq up to what the ls1 has right?

personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de
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personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
didnt know that it sucked that much

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cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
really? he's already spent 1500

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plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

ok i feel that

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oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de
cant get 100whp for what he's about to spend?



but if its purely for want of the ls1, thats cool and by all means do it.
i really liked the car when you had the black 19s and the next set. didnt dig the rotiforms too much but like your style
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Loving the detail in this build thread. I've been helping out otto graven on installing his ls7r. If you have any questions let me know, I can find the answer. lol
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Very nice

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excited to see this thing come back alive
Thanks bro,, Hope to be out there soon with you.. def miss it... Also hope to live up to your build thread..

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nice documentation so far.
last pic....are those valves bent? hah, they're tilting.
Thanks bro.. haha no they are not bent.. the table cuts of at the end and it was sitting on the end of it..

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Nice! Hopefully you can do this faster then I did, hahaha!
hahaha, lets hope... Your build really inspired me.

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Thanks bro,, been on here for a while though..

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you should've kept those rotiforms! sooo sick.
Trust me you will like what I have coming..

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yea edafe!! glad to see this happen.

Not 100% on this, but i may be getting rid of the s13 to dump some cash in the Z but we'll see.
Either way im not stayin out of texas any time soon
Sick bro,, I know what ever you do will look sick.. Can't wait to tear it up with you guys..

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personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de
McDougal hit it on the money.. I should have explained the reason why I choose the LS over doing twin turbos. Well the main reason is reliability and that LS motors are a dime a dozen. like Mc said the VQ motors are known to blow at around 400hp which is a no go in my book. The cost of build the block and still not having the liability does not sit right with me. Also I have always loved V8s and the amount of torque they put out..

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I'll let you know who this is soon - pm me your number.
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Loving the detail in this build thread. I've been helping out otto graven on installing his ls7r. If you have any questions let me know, I can find the answer. lol
Thanks bro, That is the point of this build to be very detailed, hopping to help out anyone that tries it.. And if I have any questions I will def hit you up.. Thanks for that.

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Interested to see what mount kit your going with

Sikky????
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didnt know that it sucked that much


really? he's already spent 1500




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cant get 100whp for what he's about to spend?



but if its purely for want of the ls1, thats cool and by all means do it.
i really liked the car when you had the black 19s and the next set. didnt dig the rotiforms too much but like your style
Thanks bro,, I also loved my Black 19s and will soon be back on DPEs in all black.. so stay tune for that update..


One a side note: I am way head of these pics, just wanted to be further along so you guys would not have to wait on pics.. Thought it would be a good idea to do it week by week so I can answer any question that my come my way..
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personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de
Well you don't have to build the block till about 700whp, but you do need rods and pistons to make anything over 400whp safely.

Once people get over 400whp they start having issues, either with the build it's self of just constant BS.
Piston slap, leaking this and that, ideal problems, head lift so forth. Its all well documented.

Not to mention the DE and Rev-Up motors only put 240-246whp to the ground in stock form it's little wonder people are swapping out the minivan motor.

I wish I put my VQ into my 240 an then a LS/JZ into the Z. Oh well.
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why the 98 block?

known for poor oil galleries,.. try to end up with a 99+

i'll be watching this build as well, hopefully get an ls2 in mine
and join you soon @ the tx drift series next year!
Either way good luck bro, cars inspiring to me as well. ppw ftw!
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Well you don't have to build the block till about 700whp, but you do need rods and pistons to make anything over 400whp safely.

Once people get over 400whp they start having issues, either with the build it's self of just constant BS.
Piston slap, leaking this and that, ideal problems, head lift so forth. Its all well documented.

Not to mention the DE and Rev-Up motors only put 240-246whp to the ground in stock form it's little wonder people are swapping out the minivan motor.

I wish I put my VQ into my 240 an then a LS/JZ into the Z. Oh well.
I agree with u. Any car supporting big HP is def going to run into problems.

By the way my stock Rev-Up threw down 256hp on the dyno. Lol

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why the 98 block?

known for poor oil galleries,.. try to end up with a 99+

i'll be watching this build as well, hopefully get an ls2 in mine
and join you soon @ the tx drift series next year!
Either way good luck bro, cars inspiring to me as well. ppw ftw!
Thanks for the kind words. As for the poor oil consumption. This is taken car of with the new LS6 oil pump and also adding an Acusump to the mix. That in my opinion is a must for LS motors.
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I was just asking because i saw the perimeter valve cover (early style) = 97 vette or 98 fbody ls1.

Also, its not so much the oil pump. The early block design/oil galleries
were somewhat restricted and didn't flow well. compared to the revised
99 block and even better, ls6 2002 block. Might want to look into that, last thing
you would want is a accusumped lsx still starving for oil.

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