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Royal_T 07-27-2011 05:28 PM

LS1 350z Drift Build 'Nuff Said'
 
Okay it is time for me to start this build thread. First I would like to say this has been a long time coming and I just can't wait for the finish product to be done. I will do this build in stages and tell you everything, from building the engine to suspension work. I will also make note of how much everything cost since that is a big deal for everyone that wants to do an LS build. I will post an update once a week with pics so there will be something to look at..And last but not least I will post a beer of the week, since I love crafted beers:thumbup: So lets get started!!

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...m/theyears.jpg

Wanted to post this pic here.. Some of you know my car and some of you don't. but it has been through so many wheels/looks its not funny.. But it will not look like this any more and hopefully the last change.....

STAGE 1: Phase 1...'Engine tear down and clean up'



http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...T_album/15.jpg

Let's start this with the beer of the week.. One of my Favs 'DogFish Head 90 Min' Good stuff

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/1-2.jpg

First thing was the purchase of this LS1 longblock that I got off of LS1tech.com. You can find a lot of useful info on there so def check it out..

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/2-1.jpg

A little dirty but that will all change. Had 38k on it and the owner had the Bottom end torn down by a local machine shop (to check the condition of it which was great still) and had all the bearings replaced, ls6 oil pump installed, ls2 timing chain, ARP rod bolts.. All this for the price of $1500

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...T_album/35.jpg

In my opinion not a bad purchases since I plan on changing and adding a lot of aftermarket parts..

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/3-2.jpg

First thing I saw was this little chip on the crank balancer pulley.. a no go in my book and will get replaced...

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/4-1.jpg

Now lets crack open these heads and see what we have.. To do so you will need a 10mm to unbolt all the head bolts.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/5-1.jpg

Nasty:icon22: I don't like how dirty they are so I will send these off to the machine shop to get cleaned..

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/6-1.jpg

To have the heads ready for the machine shop, I went to Advance Auto parts to rent out there Valve Spring Compressor. This is a free service through them and you guys should def take advantage of it.. Just leave a deposit and you get it back when you return it..

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/7-2.jpg

Comes with everything you need to get the job done.. It is kind of like a big ass C clamp

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...T_album/75.jpg

I placed a little rubber cap over the end of the compressor so it would not F up the valves..


http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/8-1.jpg

Lets do this... Gloves are :thumbup:


http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q..._album/9-2.jpg

This is how you use this tool for those that don't know. The Heads have to be off the engine to use this tool.

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...album/10-1.jpg

Placement of the tool

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...album/11-1.jpg

next is getting these damn Valve seals out.. Just use pliers and a lot of force..

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...album/12-1.jpg

Then remove the retainers...

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...T_album/13.jpg

Bam!!! everything is all done and ready to send to machine shop..

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http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/q...T_album/14.jpg

Okay got them back from the machine shop from their bath.. and man does it look so much better.. Price of this service is only $25 a head...

So Build total so far is $1550


Next week: STAGE 1: Phase 2 'Cam/Pulley Install'

Johny5 07-27-2011 06:09 PM

excited to see this thing come back alive :)

240KA 07-27-2011 06:42 PM

nice documentation so far.
last pic....are those valves bent? hah, they're tilting.

95KA-Turbo 07-27-2011 06:53 PM

Nice! Hopefully you can do this faster then I did, hahaha!

Corbic 07-27-2011 06:54 PM

Needs more pics.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4109/...30d3499c_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/...9e310a9f_o.jpg

tricky_ab 07-27-2011 06:56 PM

This will be a interesting one...

K_style 07-27-2011 07:36 PM

Subscribed for sure !

NNOCENT 07-27-2011 07:41 PM

Edafe, good to see you on Zilvia bro

Rsidesilvia 07-27-2011 08:55 PM

you should've kept those rotiforms! sooo sick.

theianmcdougall 07-27-2011 09:41 PM

yea edafe!! glad to see this happen.

Not 100% on this, but i may be getting rid of the s13 to dump some cash in the Z but we'll see.
Either way im not stayin out of texas any time soon :)

Marcus 07-27-2011 10:00 PM

dont get me wrong, im not against the v8. but why? i understand the swap into 240s. the motor that comes with 240s in stock from sucks donkey balls.

the motor that comes with this car isnt all that bad. wouldnt take much to get the vq up to what the ls1 has right?

HS13KLS 07-27-2011 10:04 PM

Edafe doin work!! I like this! haha

theianmcdougall 07-27-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 4170177)
dont get me wrong, im not against the v8. but why? i understand the swap into 240s. the motor that comes with 240s in stock from sucks donkey balls.

the motor that comes with this car isnt all that bad. wouldnt take much to get the vq up to what the ls1 has right?


personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de

Tae-Hyun 07-27-2011 10:19 PM

Finally Edafe! lol - see you soon ;)

I'll let you know who this is soon - pm me your number.

titopkz505 07-27-2011 10:28 PM

Would love to see the end product!

d-man478 07-27-2011 10:50 PM

Loving the detail in this build thread. I've been helping out otto graven on installing his ls7r. If you have any questions let me know, I can find the answer. lol

junn 07-27-2011 10:56 PM

Very nice

Interested to see what mount kit your going with

Sikky????

Marcus 07-27-2011 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall (Post 4170188)
personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls

didnt know that it sucked that much

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall (Post 4170188)
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it

really? he's already spent 1500

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall (Post 4170188)
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc


ok i feel that

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall (Post 4170188)
oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de

cant get 100whp for what he's about to spend?



but if its purely for want of the ls1, thats cool and by all means do it.
i really liked the car when you had the black 19s and the next set. didnt dig the rotiforms too much but like your style

darkzschneider 07-27-2011 11:22 PM

subscribed

Royal_T 07-27-2011 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny5 (Post 4169726)
excited to see this thing come back alive :)

Thanks bro,, Hope to be out there soon with you.. def miss it... Also hope to live up to your build thread..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240KA (Post 4169809)
nice documentation so far.
last pic....are those valves bent? hah, they're tilting.

Thanks bro.. haha no they are not bent.. the table cuts of at the end and it was sitting on the end of it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo (Post 4169828)
Nice! Hopefully you can do this faster then I did, hahaha!

hahaha, lets hope... Your build really inspired me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NNOCENT (Post 4169923)
Edafe, good to see you on Zilvia bro

Thanks bro,, been on here for a while though..

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloody_vert (Post 4170065)
you should've kept those rotiforms! sooo sick.

Trust me you will like what I have coming..

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall (Post 4170152)
yea edafe!! glad to see this happen.

Not 100% on this, but i may be getting rid of the s13 to dump some cash in the Z but we'll see.
Either way im not stayin out of texas any time soon :)

Sick bro,, I know what ever you do will look sick.. Can't wait to tear it up with you guys..

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall (Post 4170188)
personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de

McDougal hit it on the money.. I should have explained the reason why I choose the LS over doing twin turbos. Well the main reason is reliability and that LS motors are a dime a dozen. like Mc said the VQ motors are known to blow at around 400hp which is a no go in my book. The cost of build the block and still not having the liability does not sit right with me. Also I have always loved V8s and the amount of torque they put out..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tae-Hyun (Post 4170203)
Finally Edafe! lol - see you soon ;)

I'll let you know who this is soon - pm me your number.

Okay... hope not a stalker :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-man478 (Post 4170265)
Loving the detail in this build thread. I've been helping out otto graven on installing his ls7r. If you have any questions let me know, I can find the answer. lol

Thanks bro, That is the point of this build to be very detailed, hopping to help out anyone that tries it.. And if I have any questions I will def hit you up.. Thanks for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by junn (Post 4170275)
Very nice

Interested to see what mount kit your going with

Sikky????

Yup Sikky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus (Post 4170304)
didnt know that it sucked that much


really? he's already spent 1500




ok i feel that



cant get 100whp for what he's about to spend?



but if its purely for want of the ls1, thats cool and by all means do it.
i really liked the car when you had the black 19s and the next set. didnt dig the rotiforms too much but like your style

Thanks bro,, I also loved my Black 19s and will soon be back on DPEs in all black.. so stay tune for that update..


One a side note: I am way head of these pics, just wanted to be further along so you guys would not have to wait on pics.. Thought it would be a good idea to do it week by week so I can answer any question that my come my way..

RichieSR20 07-28-2011 12:11 AM

I'm speechless. I can't wait to see how this thing comes out!!!!!

imnotniko 07-28-2011 01:04 AM

nice build. i like the way your doing weekly updates.

OBEEWON 07-28-2011 07:47 AM

My favorite Z in life ever.

Your style is unmatched, and your flare is above average.

Pimp on.

S14DOOD 07-28-2011 08:20 AM

gonna be super sick man, cant wait to see more!

Corbic 07-28-2011 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theianmcdougall (Post 4170188)
personally the motor that comes in the 03-06 350z's sucks balls
anything over 400whp and you have the build the block,
cost more to build the block and add turbo's than just put a simple V8 in it
plus n/a is more reliable on the track than have to worry about turbos, boost leaks,etc

oh and a stock ls1 has about 100 more whp and torque than vq35de

Well you don't have to build the block till about 700whp, but you do need rods and pistons to make anything over 400whp safely.

Once people get over 400whp they start having issues, either with the build it's self of just constant BS.
Piston slap, leaking this and that, ideal problems, head lift so forth. Its all well documented.

Not to mention the DE and Rev-Up motors only put 240-246whp to the ground in stock form it's little wonder people are swapping out the minivan motor.

I wish I put my VQ into my 240 an then a LS/JZ into the Z. Oh well.

takyo_style 07-28-2011 08:56 AM

lsjuan ftw

turbo2nr 07-28-2011 09:07 AM

you sir rock!

its gona be epic cant wait for the finished product!

kouki_steve 07-28-2011 09:23 AM

why the 98 block?

known for poor oil galleries,.. try to end up with a 99+

i'll be watching this build as well, hopefully get an ls2 in mine
and join you soon @ the tx drift series next year!
Either way good luck bro, cars inspiring to me as well. ppw ftw!

Royal_T 07-28-2011 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbic (Post 4170735)
Well you don't have to build the block till about 700whp, but you do need rods and pistons to make anything over 400whp safely.

Once people get over 400whp they start having issues, either with the build it's self of just constant BS.
Piston slap, leaking this and that, ideal problems, head lift so forth. Its all well documented.

Not to mention the DE and Rev-Up motors only put 240-246whp to the ground in stock form it's little wonder people are swapping out the minivan motor.

I wish I put my VQ into my 240 an then a LS/JZ into the Z. Oh well.

I agree with u. Any car supporting big HP is def going to run into problems.

By the way my stock Rev-Up threw down 256hp on the dyno. Lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by kouki_steve (Post 4170790)
why the 98 block?

known for poor oil galleries,.. try to end up with a 99+

i'll be watching this build as well, hopefully get an ls2 in mine
and join you soon @ the tx drift series next year!
Either way good luck bro, cars inspiring to me as well. ppw ftw!

Thanks for the kind words. As for the poor oil consumption. This is taken car of with the new LS6 oil pump and also adding an Acusump to the mix. That in my opinion is a must for LS motors.

kouki_steve 07-28-2011 09:57 AM

I was just asking because i saw the perimeter valve cover (early style) = 97 vette or 98 fbody ls1.

Also, its not so much the oil pump. The early block design/oil galleries
were somewhat restricted and didn't flow well. compared to the revised
99 block and even better, ls6 2002 block. Might want to look into that, last thing
you would want is a accusumped lsx still starving for oil.


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