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Old 08-01-2008, 01:22 PM   #31
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after all that you drew a front coilover.

You can see where in the rear coilover on the left, the black threaded body can only thread so far into the silver bottom mount before it hits the end.

The fronts don't have this problem and you can just take out the locking collars when you want to go lower.
hehe i know.. i have the same coils and ran into the same problem. so i know what the OP was talkin about.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:31 PM   #32
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how much lower would i be able to go by doing that?
I don't know?

How much lower do you need your car?

I would say that with 1" spring droop you should be OK... if not, well... you probably need some better dampers anyway.
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:38 PM   #33
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What would happen if you took a hacksaw to the threaded portion?

how far into it does the actual strut assembly travel?
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:43 PM   #34
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What would happen if you took a hacksaw to the threaded portion?

how far into it does the actual strut assembly travel?
Pretty sure the threaded housings for the rear dampers serve the purpose of providing a place for the shock to bolt to as well, so hacking the bottom off would probably be not possible.
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:34 PM   #35
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i need it about 1 1/2 " in the rear lower..
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:50 PM   #36
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You know, now that I think about it, I'm not sure if changing to a shorter spring will really make your car lower; it would just change how much travel you have. I think any height differences you experience from that will just be from how the springs react to the first xxx pounds - I know we are all suppose to have linear springs w/ the coilovers, but the quality of each spring manufacturer is a lil diff.

I actually run longer springs on my megans & it didn't get higher. Sorry. You may still want to change out the springs anyway, but I don't think it will lower the car much, if at all.

Looks like your only chance is to preload the springs, but you're going to have to probably preload quite a bit.
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Old 08-01-2008, 03:03 PM   #37
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Looks like your only chance is to preload the springs, but you're going to have to probably preload quite a bit.
Argh.... preloading a spring will only make the car sit higher.

You need to droop the spring in order for the car to sit lower.
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:28 PM   #38
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drop the locking collar and buy some helper springs and put them between

the spring and top mount and they compress while there is weight on the

car and giving you up to 2"+ drop. kinda like what the tanabe coils use
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:03 AM   #39
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really? will those helper springs work? i dont get how they would tho
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:29 AM   #40
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Helper springs in this case would help if you had spring droop and your car was airborn long enough for the spring to become unseated from the top of the shock. If you had the helper spring it would act as if there was 2 extra inches of spring holding it up allowing it to stay seated, but once the weight of the car is put back down the helper spring compresses back down and gives you your desired ride height.

Edit: You would still lose shock travel from the spring droop though. Either way, just man up and do it. See if it works (it probably will be fine) and if you accidently blow them, whatever they're just cheap megans anyway.
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Old 08-02-2008, 07:11 AM   #41
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In the rear, spring length has nothing to do with ride height. Only thing that matter is whether you droop the spring so cutting springs, heating springs, and switching springs in the back will do nothing for you. So much misinformation posted in this thread.

Droop the spring the amount you want your car to go lower. You will lose the amount of shock travel that you droop it but in my experience it doesn't cause the shocks to blow faster. I've been drooping mine about a half an inch now for years with no problem. I could care less about helper springs because my car is never air born unless I'm working on it or if I'm going up a steep driveway slowly, both of which you don't need helper springs to pick up the slack.
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Old 08-02-2008, 10:27 PM   #42
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I could care less about helper springs because my car is never air born unless I'm working on it or if I'm going up a steep driveway slowly, both of which you don't need helper springs to pick up the slack.
have you thought about freeway bumps when there is a bump like the one on the 405 that causes my suspension to be at full extension thats why i recommended helper springs. And he wants to go more than half an inch which will cause it to most likely blow
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Go slower, or choose another lane.

Helper spring isn't really going to do shit about being airborne.
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those are if you have a z32 conversion and use the uprights
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Pretty sure the threaded housings for the rear dampers serve the purpose of providing a place for the shock to bolt to as well, so hacking the bottom off would probably be not possible.

I think he was talking about the threaded part, not the sleeve. I think that idea is worth looking into if the threaded portion goes all the way to the bottom of the sleeve. That way you can change the preload, then crank the extra threaded portion into the sleeve. ??? maybe?
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i am going to try putting the preload thing.
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if yoru going to lower rear dont add preload
droop the spring
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dude ryota I have some cement at my house when you come over tomorrow we will fill your trunk up and then the weight will lower the rear. Easy fix
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for cosmetic reasons lol. when i go to streets of willow im going to raise it up.

i drooped the spring and it worked. thanks flybert
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