Fuck my life. Car won't start after oil change. - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Adeadcurrent · 10-28-2009, 05:37 PM

So I'm changing out the oil on the SR20 and I am havin issues taking the oil filter out. My buddy comes over with an oil wrench and trys to grab it from underneath and in the process makes contact with what I assume was the starter and a huge spark happened. Scared the shit out of him and my immediate thought was fuck now what. So I finish putting the oil in and go to turn it over to cycle the oil. And now it won't start. The car won't start and I'm wondering if the starter is fried.

Has anyone had any issue like this. All other electronics work, just no turn over.

Help....

sacco sideways · 10-28-2009, 05:40 PM

sorry to hear about that man...

*garagelu* · 10-28-2009, 05:41 PM

check your fusible links and fuses. Most likely you burnt one up. I'm betting its a fusible link. And fyi, you can't get those at the parts store. They are usually a oem item so check the dealership.

Shadowhunter · 10-28-2009, 05:42 PM

Take the starter to autozone and test it. Instead of asking us to theorize about your situation, do something about it. Start ruling stuff out. Next time disconnect the battery terminal.

sacco sideways · 10-28-2009, 05:45 PM

^^ always disconnect when working on your car. apperantly even for an oil change

Adeadcurrent · 10-28-2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowhunter

Take the starter to autozone and test it. Instead of asking us to theorize about your situation, do something about it. Start ruling stuff out. Next time disconnect the battery terminal.

Well no shit, I don't have time till this weekend. That's why I was asking if anyone had any ideas. Try to narrow it down. No need to be a dick about it.

ROIDMONKEY · 10-28-2009, 05:52 PM

check the main fuses . the big ones

JDM Sil4ty · 10-28-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROIDMONKEY

check the main fuses . the big ones

id do the same

Adeadcurrent · 10-28-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROIDMONKEY

check the main fuses . the big ones

All the starter related fuses are located by the battery right?

BooStedS13SleePeR · 10-28-2009, 06:06 PM

yea it would probably be either the fuse or u burned the little wire in the starter i highly doubt u burned the starter.but on a nissan anythings possible haha

Shadowhunter · 10-28-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Adeadcurrent

Well no shit, I don't have time till this weekend. That's why I was asking if anyone had any ideas. Try to narrow it down. No need to be a dick about it.

I'm not being a dick,your just being helpless. You want people to spoonfeed you an answer before you have even lifted a wrench to try and help your self. I gave you an answer, don't get mad at me because your negligence caused your car to get messed up.

*garagelu* · 10-28-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowhunter

Take the starter to autozone and test it. Instead of asking us to theorize about your situation, do something about it. Start ruling stuff out. Next time disconnect the battery terminal.

wow thats some bad advice there. My car won't start so I am going to start taking one part off at a time till I fix it. Yes I am being sarcastic.

But my point is you have to think about it for a second and diagnose things before you start trying to fix it.

And please don't take his advice and pull the starter. You will have wasted an hour or two pulling it.

I don't know for sure where the fusible links are on the s13 but on the s14, they are all in the main fuse box by the battery.

g6civcx · 10-28-2009, 06:28 PM

Pull out the FSM and try to figure out what the body harness is doing. Trace the flow of power and see which components have power and which ones don't.

The culprit is likely the fusible link.

Shadowhunter · 10-28-2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garagelu

wow thats some bad advice there. My car won't start so I am going to start taking one part off at a time till I fix it. Yes I am being sarcastic.

But my point is you have to think about it for a second and diagnose things before you start trying to fix it.

Part of the diagnostic is ruling things out, the point I was trying to make to the original poster is to start diagnosing. We can't fix the car over the internet, so checking the fuses and fuseable links is a quick visual inspection, next up the starter.(and it seems like he already knew that)

Had he said I have already checked the fuses and the starter Shit's still not working Then the bases are already covered and we need to start looking at other alternatives.

Too many people come on here asking for answers on how to fix something but have not tried to do anything to fix it themselves. The resources are there, FSM, Search, etc. But no one seems to want to do any legwork to resolve their own issue. I am all for helping someone out but you gotta try some shit on your own before we start speculating as to what it could be. Anyway I'm not gonna start a flame war in this thread,I see the same stuff 100X a day with people not doing anything beforehand to resolve the problem.

jspaeth · 10-28-2009, 06:30 PM

Does anyone else see the ultimate irony that the OP's username is

A DEAD CURRENT?

hahahahahahahahah

*garagelu* · 10-28-2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowhunter

Part of the diagnostic is ruling things out, the point I was trying to make to the original poster is to start diagnosing. We can't fix the car over the internet, so checking the fuses and fuseable links is a quick visual inspection, next up the starter.(and it seems like he already knew that)

Had he said I have already checked the fuses and the starter Shit's still not working Then the bases are already covered and we need to start looking at other alternatives.

Too many people come on here asking for answers on how to fix something but have not tried to do anything to fix it themselves. The resources are there, FSM, Search, etc. But no one seems to want to do any legwork to resolve their own issue. I am all for helping someone out but you gotta try some shit on your own before we start speculating as to what it could be. Anyway I'm not gonna start a flame war in this thread,I see the same stuff 100X a day with people not doing anything beforehand to resolve the problem.

Yea I totally agree with you. Sometimes you do have to consider that some people on here may not have as much technical or automotive knowledge as yourself and/or not have the experience to know where to look for the solution.

And another thing people need to consider before people start knocking on the poster is that sometimes people panic when they get into situations like this. OH NO MY CAR WON'T START.....I gotta ask my peeps on zilvia. They don't even take the time to sit down relax and have a beer before they actually try to diagnose it. I'm at the point where I know I make things worse when I panic and try to rush things but other people may not.

g6civcx · 10-28-2009, 06:41 PM

I don't mind asking stupid questions so much as people giving irrelevant info while leaving out crucial info.

What is the car? We assume he has an S-chassis but it could be an old Z for all we know. Hell it may not even be a Nissan.

Then all the fusible links ideas go out the window.

iridesidewayz · 10-28-2009, 07:06 PM

hey bro while your checking your fuses also check the connections on your starter and alternator. maybe something was just loose and slipped. the issue is always really simple dont freak just take the time to check every fuse and connection you can...Good luck
heres my

sidedrifts13 · 10-28-2009, 07:11 PM

should be an easy fix dont trip out keep calm

Dman II-40 · 10-29-2009, 04:56 AM

Lol at "Fuck my life" that was a good laugh. Anyway, at least it isn't something major like a rod through the block.

Chrischeezer · 10-29-2009, 05:37 AM

omg... f*ck your life?! why cuz u shorted on the alternator or starter?
lol plzzz.. if i had a dime for every time i did that ( id have like 30 cents)

$7.50 for a 75a fuse

"f*ck my life", should be used if u hit a tree and total your car out or kill someone.

ashtonroche · 10-29-2009, 12:17 PM

yeah its definetly the main power fuse for sure, he probably contacted the alternator and that would definetly do it. Start is usually straight to the battery but could cause a spike but its usually contacting the alternartor being that makes the most sense if he was loosening the filer with the wrench he would be pushing it towards the front of the car.

LOL this thread is hilarious. Its called look at the problem and find the simple solutions.

The take the starter off was probably the worst idea ive ever heard for a problem like this. hahahaha

*DALAZ_68* · 10-29-2009, 02:25 PM

OP - sell you car...Seriously...

if you cant even change your oil without messing something up, seriously, issues...

and dont point ur fingure to ur friend...how do you know if wouldnt be u feelign like a dumbass for shorting out ur own car...

ohhwell 1 less illegal motor on public roads...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspaeth

Does anyone else see the ultimate irony that the OP's username is

A DEAD CURRENT?

looked at thread title and looked ar OP username b4 entering the thread, i giggled...

jr_ss · 10-29-2009, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

OP - sell you car...Seriously...

if you cant even change your oil without messing something up, seriously, issues...

and dont point ur fingure to ur friend...how do you know if wouldnt be u feelign like a dumbass for shorting out ur own car...

ohhwell 1 less illegal motor on public roads...

looked at thread title and looked ar OP username b4 entering the thread, i giggled...

Wow, what a completely useless post... Stay off the bandwagon

.

OP, did you get anywhere with this? Something else you may want to try is hook up a volt meter and see where the power stops on it's way to the starter. Or have your friend attempt to start the car with the volt meter on the power supply to the starter to see if youre getting power there.

projectRDM · 10-29-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garagelu

Yea I totally agree with you. Sometimes you do have to consider that some people on here may not have as much technical or automotive knowledge as yourself and/or not have the experience to know where to look for the solution.

And another thing people need to consider before people start knocking on the poster is that sometimes people panic when they get into situations like this. OH NO MY CAR WON'T START.....I gotta ask my peeps on zilvia. They don't even take the time to sit down relax and have a beer before they actually try to diagnose it. I'm at the point where I know I make things worse when I panic and try to rush things but other people may not.

This is zilvia. Maybe 1% of the members here have any technical or automotive knowledge. Panic isn't the issue here, it's ignorance.

john891 · 10-29-2009, 04:24 PM

done this before... you blew a fuse !!

singlecamslam · 10-29-2009, 09:58 PM

i LOVE zilvia.net its where i go to get my comedy relief. To the OP, i think you put bad oil in it.

Hashiriya415 · 10-29-2009, 11:06 PM

I got main fuses for sale PM me if you want it $5 shipped or $3 picked up
$20 installation
$60 for oil change since your car does magical things every time you change the oil.
$20 to teach you how to change the oil
$20 to put an insulator around your starter wires
$20 to put an insulator around your alternator wires

Chrischeezer · 10-30-2009, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by singlecamslam

i LOVE zilvia.net its where i go to get my comedy relief. To the OP, i think you put bad oil in it.

yeah good point,
make sure u put oil in the motor.. not pineapple juice

Walperstyle · 10-30-2009, 04:04 AM

yeah dude, the mechanically inclined people kinda come off a little pissy because we found out that we learn more in the garage by looking, not being on the internet asking questions.

We all are guilty of asking for 'opinions' though.

You'll get there. I dont think you have bad Oil, but who knows, your buddy maybe poured it somewhere else, or knocked something lose. etc.

Btw, if you want to know how to fix an issue, just search, you are not the first that had electrical/starter issues.

10-28-2009, 05:37 PM	#1
Adeadcurrent Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Escondido, CA Age: 31 Posts: 255 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Fuck my life. Car won't start after oil change. So I'm changing out the oil on the SR20 and I am havin issues taking the oil filter out. My buddy comes over with an oil wrench and trys to grab it from underneath and in the process makes contact with what I assume was the starter and a huge spark happened. Scared the shit out of him and my immediate thought was fuck now what. So I finish putting the oil in and go to turn it over to cycle the oil. And now it won't start. The car won't start and I'm wondering if the starter is fried. Has anyone had any issue like this. All other electronics work, just no turn over. Help....

10-28-2009, 05:52 PM	#7
ROIDMONKEY Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: HollyFLORIDA Posts: 2,027 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: ROIDMONKEY Feedback Score: 4 reviews	check the main fuses . the big ones __________________ TRUE thing: True ////OFFSET\\\\ is acheived without spacers Running on E85 570whp Precision 5862....laggy as fuck. hate it

10-28-2009, 06:30 PM	#15
jspaeth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philadelphia suburbs Age: 37 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: jspaeth Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Does anyone else see the ultimate irony that the OP's username is A DEAD CURRENT? hahahahahahahahah __________________ Daily driven

10-29-2009, 05:37 AM	#21
Chrischeezer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: earth Age: 37 Posts: 1,406 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	omg... fck your life?! why cuz u shorted on the alternator or starter? lol plzzz.. if i had a dime for every time i did that ( id have like 30 cents) $7.50 for a 75a fuse "fck my life", should be used if u hit a tree and total your car out or kill someone. __________________

10-29-2009, 04:24 PM	#26
john891 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: midlothian Posts: 70 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	done this before... you blew a fuse !! __________________ Image exceeds forum limits of 400wide x 200 high. gold 89' SR'd coupe w/ silvia front

10-28-2009, 05:40 PM	#2
sacco sideways BANNED Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: san diego Posts: 294 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry to hear about that man...

10-28-2009, 05:41 PM	#3
garagelu Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 36 Posts: 1,856 Trader Rating: (60) Feedback Score: 60 reviews	check your fusible links and fuses. Most likely you burnt one up. I'm betting its a fusible link. And fyi, you can't get those at the parts store. They are usually a oem item so check the dealership.

10-28-2009, 05:42 PM	#4
Shadowhunter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: San Diego,CA Age: 36 Posts: 647 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Take the starter to autozone and test it. Instead of asking us to theorize about your situation, do something about it. Start ruling stuff out. Next time disconnect the battery terminal.

10-28-2009, 05:45 PM	#5
sacco sideways BANNED Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: san diego Posts: 294 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^ always disconnect when working on your car. apperantly even for an oil change

10-28-2009, 06:06 PM	#10
BooStedS13SleePeR Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: buffalo Age: 33 Posts: 184 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea it would probably be either the fuse or u burned the little wire in the starter i highly doubt u burned the starter.but on a nissan anythings possible haha

10-28-2009, 06:28 PM	#13
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Pull out the FSM and try to figure out what the body harness is doing. Trace the flow of power and see which components have power and which ones don't. The culprit is likely the fusible link.

10-28-2009, 06:41 PM	#17
g6civcx Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 5,764 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I don't mind asking stupid questions so much as people giving irrelevant info while leaving out crucial info. What is the car? We assume he has an S-chassis but it could be an old Z for all we know. Hell it may not even be a Nissan. Then all the fusible links ideas go out the window.

10-28-2009, 07:06 PM	#18
iridesidewayz Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: 916 Age: 33 Posts: 300 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	hey bro while your checking your fuses also check the connections on your starter and alternator. maybe something was just loose and slipped. the issue is always really simple dont freak just take the time to check every fuse and connection you can...Good luck heres my

10-28-2009, 07:11 PM	#19
sidedrifts13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: LOS ANGELES Age: 37 Posts: 1,883 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	should be an easy fix dont trip out keep calm

10-29-2009, 04:56 AM	#20
Dman II-40 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 140 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Lol at "Fuck my life" that was a good laugh. Anyway, at least it isn't something major like a rod through the block.

10-29-2009, 12:17 PM	#22
ashtonroche Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: yuma Age: 37 Posts: 397 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah its definetly the main power fuse for sure, he probably contacted the alternator and that would definetly do it. Start is usually straight to the battery but could cause a spike but its usually contacting the alternartor being that makes the most sense if he was loosening the filer with the wrench he would be pushing it towards the front of the car. LOL this thread is hilarious. Its called look at the problem and find the simple solutions. The take the starter off was probably the worst idea ive ever heard for a problem like this. hahahaha

10-29-2009, 09:58 PM	#27
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i LOVE zilvia.net its where i go to get my comedy relief. To the OP, i think you put bad oil in it. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

10-29-2009, 11:06 PM	#28
Hashiriya415 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Francisco Age: 33 Posts: 1,007 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	I got main fuses for sale PM me if you want it $5 shipped or $3 picked up $20 installation $60 for oil change since your car does magical things every time you change the oil. $20 to teach you how to change the oil $20 to put an insulator around your starter wires $20 to put an insulator around your alternator wires

10-30-2009, 04:04 AM	#30
Walperstyle Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta, Red Derp Age: 40 Posts: 1,729 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah dude, the mechanically inclined people kinda come off a little pissy because we found out that we learn more in the garage by looking, not being on the internet asking questions. We all are guilty of asking for 'opinions' though. You'll get there. I dont think you have bad Oil, but who knows, your buddy maybe poured it somewhere else, or knocked something lose. etc. Btw, if you want to know how to fix an issue, just search, you are not the first that had electrical/starter issues. __________________ KA-T ORG-Function over Flush

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