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marco22 · 02-26-2012, 06:48 PM

Was up Zilvia how is it going. This is my first post so work with me.. In todays world we have strong arm for technology.. The big move is electic vs mechanical. Fiirst lets start with the power steering pump. This in my opinion is a good upgrade for your turboed, autocross, driftcar. It helps get the lines from the turbo and circulate at the same rate.

Next will be the electric waterpump. it has the same comparison to the power steerin it moves the fluid at the same rate all the time. Feel free to add your input and add some other info.

water pump
fuel pump
boost controller
fans
power steering..etc

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-26-2012, 08:54 PM

I know I'm tired while working mids but damn...this thread made no sense to me. Whats the point of this thread I'm pretty clueless what you're trying to achieve.

RyanS13 · 02-26-2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

I know I'm tired while working mids but damn...this thread made no sense to me. Whats the point of this thread I'm pretty clueless what you're trying to achieve.

Agreed. I couldn't understand what it was about either.

MedHat240sx · 02-26-2012, 09:05 PM

i think hes talking about a electric pump one this driven by battery not by belt. a belt driven takes like 4 horse power but electric doesnt tell you when its gunna go

SLiDe_WaYz · 02-26-2012, 09:10 PM

This makes no sense....

*StryfeS13* · 02-26-2012, 09:11 PM

I think what he is saying, is would we prefer mechanical, or electronic. For example would you rather have an MBC or an EBC, mechanical power steering or electronic steering like an RX8, etc.

Personally I prefer mechanical. Mechanical boost gauge, mechanical boost controller, mechanical blah blah. I don't like computers doing my shit.

leung · 02-26-2012, 09:13 PM

I dont get this. There's nothing wrong with where everything is now and how they operate. Atleast this isnt another debate about mechanical vs. electric fans.

scott.k · 02-26-2012, 09:15 PM

i guess this is like a put in your opinion thread, cause it doesnt seem like hes asking a question

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-26-2012, 09:16 PM

BOROSUN · 02-26-2012, 09:18 PM

i wouldn't mind having a electric ps pump.
pro
easier to replace
constant power benefit on track with a lot of steering inputs.
no worries about belts or belt tensions/pulleys
no squeeling
less parasitic lost
less weight on the front

i like to know what is the eletric ps failure rate from heat/workload even with or w/o a ps cooler.

it should be the same for external electric water pump. . way easier to replace but, just more pieces to run and go wrong. slight more weight from the added components. more bigger powerful alternator to run the pumps.

Imarvin240 · 02-26-2012, 09:23 PM

in before the lock!

Functiontheory · 02-26-2012, 09:32 PM

^ LOL... i thought this would have been a real question. like MBC vs EBC. not cars going to all elietric stuff. what point did you make. what question did you have.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 02-27-2012, 12:05 AM

Ah I get it now...he wants to change all his engine accessories to electric. Fuck changing the accessories, just change the whole engine!!!

cbcm2435 · 02-27-2012, 04:36 AM

im in for pluses for an electric water pump, does it have more flow? might be a good option for high hp sr's

marco22 · 02-27-2012, 08:26 AM

yes i was asking wat you all perfered i guess no one thinks about these things or cares.. ok

marco22 · 02-27-2012, 08:35 AM

the flow rate is more and it stays consistant. vs mech. it the flow rate increase as your motor speeds up

marco22 · 02-27-2012, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

i wouldn't mind having a electric ps pump.
pro
easier to replace
constant power benefit on track with a lot of steering inputs.
no worries about belts or belt tensions/pulleys
no squeeling
less parasitic lost
less weight on the front

i like to know what is the eletric ps failure rate from heat/workload even with or w/o a ps cooler.

it should be the same for external electric water pump. . way easier to replace but, just more pieces to run and go wrong. slight more weight from the added components. more bigger powerful alternator to run the pumps.

Im not sure my team just ran one yesterday for the drift meet we have got twelve practice laps in straight and it did boil. as for the mech it started boiling after the third or forth lap

marco22 · 02-27-2012, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Ah I get it now...he wants to change all his engine accessories to electric. Fuck changing the accessories, just change the whole engine!!!

not a fan of hybrid

BOROSUN · 02-27-2012, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco22

Im not sure my team just ran one yesterday for the drift meet we have got twelve practice laps in straight and it did boil. as for the mech it started boiling after the third or forth lap

that's good. was it running with a ps cooler?

would like to see electric pumps conversion kits from vendors.

JKL1031 · 02-27-2012, 10:31 PM

welcome to zilvia..

Razi · 02-28-2012, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marco22

not a fan of hybrid

That isn't a hybrid.

marco22 · 02-28-2012, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Ah I get it now...he wants to change all his engine accessories to electric. Fuck changing the accessories, just change the whole engine!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOROSUN

that's good. was it running with a ps cooler?

would like to see electric pumps conversion kits from vendors.

yes with a cooler this is a first for my shop on s14 next will be an s13.... we made these kit work for our car

02-26-2012, 06:48 PM	#1
marco22 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: harrisburg nc Age: 35 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	electric vs mechanical Was up Zilvia how is it going. This is my first post so work with me.. In todays world we have strong arm for technology.. The big move is electic vs mechanical. Fiirst lets start with the power steering pump. This in my opinion is a good upgrade for your turboed, autocross, driftcar. It helps get the lines from the turbo and circulate at the same rate. Next will be the electric waterpump. it has the same comparison to the power steerin it moves the fluid at the same rate all the time. Feel free to add your input and add some other info. water pump fuel pump boost controller fans power steering..etc

02-26-2012, 08:54 PM	#2
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I know I'm tired while working mids but damn...this thread made no sense to me. Whats the point of this thread I'm pretty clueless what you're trying to achieve. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

02-26-2012, 09:10 PM	#5
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02-26-2012, 09:16 PM	#9
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02-26-2012, 09:05 PM	#4
MedHat240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: MH Age: 27 Posts: 225 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think hes talking about a electric pump one this driven by battery not by belt. a belt driven takes like 4 horse power but electric doesnt tell you when its gunna go

02-26-2012, 09:13 PM	#7
leung Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2010 Location: NYC - HK Posts: 1,234 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I dont get this. There's nothing wrong with where everything is now and how they operate. Atleast this isnt another debate about mechanical vs. electric fans.

02-26-2012, 09:15 PM	#8
scott.k Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: nor cal Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i guess this is like a put in your opinion thread, cause it doesnt seem like hes asking a question

02-26-2012, 09:18 PM	#10
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i wouldn't mind having a electric ps pump. pro easier to replace constant power benefit on track with a lot of steering inputs. no worries about belts or belt tensions/pulleys no squeeling less parasitic lost less weight on the front i like to know what is the eletric ps failure rate from heat/workload even with or w/o a ps cooler. it should be the same for external electric water pump. . way easier to replace but, just more pieces to run and go wrong. slight more weight from the added components. more bigger powerful alternator to run the pumps.

02-26-2012, 09:32 PM	#12
Functiontheory Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: nevada Age: 38 Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ LOL... i thought this would have been a real question. like MBC vs EBC. not cars going to all elietric stuff. what point did you make. what question did you have. __________________ check out my functional car blog, http://www.FUNCTIONTHEORY.com

02-27-2012, 12:05 AM	#13
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Ah I get it now...he wants to change all his engine accessories to electric. Fuck changing the accessories, just change the whole engine!!! __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

02-27-2012, 04:36 AM	#14
cbcm2435 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Age: 30 Posts: 351 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im in for pluses for an electric water pump, does it have more flow? might be a good option for high hp sr's

02-27-2012, 08:26 AM	#15
marco22 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: harrisburg nc Age: 35 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yes i was asking wat you all perfered i guess no one thinks about these things or cares.. ok

02-27-2012, 08:35 AM	#16
marco22 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: harrisburg nc Age: 35 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the flow rate is more and it stays consistant. vs mech. it the flow rate increase as your motor speeds up

02-27-2012, 10:31 PM	#20
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