onehundredoctane

(For those that clicked this thread not knowing what CWP means, it's Concealed Weapons Permit.)

Yes there is already a designated gun thread. But what about those of us that don't just "own guns"? What about those of us that legally conceal carry? So here it is, maybe the mods see fit to close this thread, but if that's the case then I'll have no hard feelings.

The purpose of this thread is to get you guys talking, I don't want this to turn into another picture thread, this should be more of a discussion. Here are the main things I'm interested in from you guys, I'll answer the questions I'm asking too, just so you guys know a little bit about me. If you have questions, need advice, etc, please feel free to post up.



-What factors made you get your cwp?

This is kind of a long story, but bear with me. It was 2008, I got a phone call at 5 p.m. on a Friday and found out that an Uncle of mine had passed away, the funeral was to be in Mississippi, and I was living in South Carolina at the time. I met up with my parents to drive down together taking turns driving thru the night. Around 3 a.m. I was at the wheel and it was time for a gas stop, I had no clue where we were, and just hopped off the interstate when I saw a gas station that was well lit. While pumping gas I was apporached by a man who started off by saying "I see those Carolina plates, you ain't from around here. I got something I wanna sale ya." I replied "No thanks." Then he stepped in closer and says "Naw buddy, you need this. . " The guy was a little bit bigger than me, but I just leaned up against the car and tried to look at cool headed as possible and replied, "I don't need anything you're selling, thanks anyway.". He got hostile, throwing his hands around while he was talking, and acting irratic and said I was the kind of people that wasn't willing to help the less fortunate, I was what's wrong with the world, blah blah blah, then took another step forward.The whole time this has been going on I was keeping an eye on his right hand which kept going back to his pants pocket. Did he have a knife? A gun? At this point he was less than 2 feet away, even if we were friends this was well within my personal space. My dad stepped out of the car, and tells me we need to find somewhere else to get gas, I replied loud enough that the guy could hear me "No, I'm fine, this guy was just leaving.". The minute I say those words a police officer pulls up on the other side of the gas pump and makes eye contact with the guy, the guy takes off running. The officer sat parked until I finished filling up then gave me a nod. After that night I scheduled my CWP class and after passing the class decided I would never be in a situation again where I wasn't equipped to defend myself, or my family memebers at all cost.


-What factors did you take into consideration when deciding what firearm to purchase for a concealed carry?

This was my first gun purchase, and all I wanted was something small enough to fit in a pocket and not leave a footprint. I picked up a Kel-tec P-3AT, it's a play on words since it's a 380. It works great, never jammed after putting roughly 200 thru it to date. Small enough to put in a pants pocket or coat pocket. I've since picked up a Glock model 22, and while it's not an easily concealed gun, I reserve it for winter time when I have a coat on to cover up the hip hosler. Any time I'm meeting up with someone to either purchase something I found on craigslist, or if I'm going to look at a car to buy and have cash on hand the Glock is within arms reach.

-Do your friends or family know you have your cwp? If so what is their opinion?

Not all of my friends know I have my cwp, but the majority of them do. My parents and sister know also, the funny part is that my mom and sister were against the idea. My mom was convinced I'd get mad and just pull my gun out on somebody and she would be visiting me in jail for the rest of my life. HA! My sister I guess has just never been around guns enough to be comfortable with them. In the years since I got my cwp I've tried to be sensitive to the fact that my mom wasn't comfortable with me owning a gun, and that she isn't comfortable with guns in general. After having my cwp three years my mom mentioned that she and my dad were taking their cwp course soon.


Share your stories, what made you decide to get your cwp?


-Matt

brad_240sx

I just got my permit on wednesday. I wanted to carry cause its better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it.

SochBAT

I was going to get mine this next weekend, complete with Suppressor license, but I opted to pay for my uncle's instead. I live in Texas now, and I know its better to have and no need it, than to be without.

I paid for my uncle because he's a great guy. He treats me like his son, and I'm forever grateful. The second reason is that I don't have a handgun of my own yet. I've got a home defender and hunting gun, but nothing I could carry out.

I've been eyefucking the WilsonCombat 1911. 45ACP rounds, and able to put a man down in his tracks. If it wasn't for my clothing (skinny/slim jeans), I'd totally opt to carry a Raging Judge.

w0nderbr3ad

I don't see a need to carry one in my environment and in some situations I can see the reason for it, but I also know that there's also a chance that I can get overpowered with my own personal weapon. I'd like to get CWP just in case I go on some of my long distance drives, but don't know the laws in CA.

Recently one of my friends house was broken into and robbed while they weren't home, because they were at a family party and the husband is abroad for work. Sounds like a need for protection since they have 2 kids and 1 on the way. No time like the present to invest in one.

Sleepiedaze

unfortunatly i cant carry in comifornia. but i still carry at all times and dont advertise it.

Matej

Is it legal to carry a sheathed sword around? I want to wear a rapier. Or at least a really cool dagger.

TougeSR20Kid

Damn all of yous!!! Here in the DPRK(alifornia) they no allow it in many counties and even then they are like next to impossible to get... But on a side note I can open carry my AR for days as long as I'm on my property

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onehundredoctane

THIS GUY! Speaking of AR's, (yeah I know I said I wanted this to be a discussion and not another pic thread, but I'm posting pics, sue me). . . this was what I took to the firing range today after work.



It's pretty easy to get an concealed permit here, as long as you have a clean record at least. I'm sure laws are different as far as where you can or can't carry in each state. Having my cwp formerly in SC and now in NC, I can say the laws are pretty much the same. One difference I have found is that in NC the only "government" property you are allowed to concealed carry on is state parks.

speedgod^s13

Hawaii sucks. Can't conceal carry, at all.

SochBAT

I've got that exact same step! AK and AR15. I opted for the Nikon scope and a 30 round banana with three point sling. My uncle's AR has the Streamlight + Laser on it. Those things are accurate as shit.

onehundredoctane

The UBER fail.

theicecreamdan

I haven't applied for one yet.
I probably won't be approved since San Diego doesn't really give them to average citizens.

If you can't legally carry in "comifornia" you can probably blame it on your county sheriff. There are a lot of counties that follow California's law and provide licenses to applicants.

Its not a good idea to carry illegally, and you're giving up a lot your defense if you haven't even applied for the license.

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TougeSR20Kid

Exactly... It's up to the sheriff of that county as to whether or not to allow concealed carry, after all isnt he the one who signs off on ur permit? Plus i heard the application process is pretty rigid and there are limited as in most ppl who apply don't get them

Btw open carry on my property isn't what i realized it sounds like to you guys readin that first post. I live in the middle of nowhere on a lot of land. Hah it's not like I'm standing on my balcony watching cars drive by with a loaded AR. It's more to protect myself and my dog and horses from whatever or whomever may be lurking (mountain lions, bears, and tweakers)

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DS562

this is true. the Sheriff is the one who signs your private pesons CWP. which is why i want to GTFO of LA because theres no way in hell i can get one until im an officer which probably wont be until im 24-26. i've had a loaded gun pointed at my forehead 2 years ago and lets just say i took a gamble i would never like to make again. leaving your life completely up to somebody elses wim is a shitty feeling.

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onehundredoctane

Wow, I knew it was difficult to get a cwp in certain states, but had no idea it was "nearly impossible". That almost defeats the purpose of having a cwp program! Hate to hear that guys!

biggie

I laughed when I saw you posted this in a forum that most members are in nazifornia. And then there's new york where you can't have certain pocket knives, much less a gun.

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onehundredoctane

Yeah, yeah, but there are other states than New York & Califailnia. I would like to hear from people that do carry and have actually found themselves in a situation where they either came close to having to defend themselves or others.

TougeSR20Kid

Yeah straight up Cali is bullshit when it comes to its rules and regulations, its even more rediculous when you look at every state it borders and their laws... NV you can buy fully auto ar15s and conceal carry is easier, OR also has lax gun laws, and I think we all know about AZs gun laws lol... Not to mention its like 100 times easier to have a modded car in those states. Fuckin Cali being a buzz kill 24/7

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theicecreamdan

California isn't the worst, and most people probably don't know how bad it is in CA, NY, HI etc.

I think its a good thing for people (especially non-enthusiasts) to realize what gun laws are like in a lot of places. So they can realize that the "free" states aren't overflowing with blood like some groups would have you believe.

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But New York is only in the city from what I heard... Upstate is pretty open and country and therefore guns are ok? But yeah CA isn't that bad compared to NYC and HI, but compared to the rest of the country it's freaking rediculous, most states allow fully auto guns: the only ones I could find that have laws restricting or prohibiting fully auto assault weapons CA, CO (Denver only), CT, HI, MD, MA (unless you are a firearm instructor), MN, NJ, NY, and WA. Some other states require that you register the gun with a specific law enforcement agency and pass certain criteria but allow citizens to have them nonetheless. As far as open carry... Most states have what is called "shall issue" which means they will issue the permit to those who apply and are accepted if you will. Some states have what's called "may issue" which means its at the discretion of whomever and that person is to decide whether or not to issue permits in their county and the criteria for that county. These are CA, DE, HI, IL, MD, MA, NJ, NY, RI, and VT. But in most states 40 out of the 50 it's a shall-issue meaning its allowed so long as u meet the requirements and have no personal issues that are of concern in other words if you are mentally sane and not a criminal and are of a certain age - ur good

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DS562

does anybody here subscribe to American Handgunner? in one of last years issues, there was a story about the Gabrielle Giffords attempt in which a passersby was concealing and had helped in the capture of the shooter. its an eye opener. i'll try and find a link

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FU12

When you get a CWP in CA, I believe its only for your county, so it might be useless outside of it , but I'm not completely sure since not many people have them.

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theicecreamdan

For the most part a CA CCW in California is good for the whole state.

I think (I'm not going to research it, and I might be completely off on this) some really small counties issue licenses with restrictions regarding larger counties.

As far as "may issue" licenses. I'll take may over no issue

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DS562

Concealed Firearm Carry Permit in California: Information Database

i found this site helpful

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speedgod^s13

Well, it might be "may issue" here in the Aloha state, but I have never heard of one being issued, with a lot of applications. So, it may as well be "no issue".

onehundredoctane

I laughed at this.
So you have to have a reason to want to carry? You're not allowed to conceal carry purely because you want to be able to defend yourself? Further proof that I will never live in California and probably never visit.

This I also is laughable:

$500, then $250 every 2 years to renew? You gotta be fucking kidding me! That's robbery! You're basically renting the right to be able to protect yourself! I can't remember what how much it cost when I had mine issued in SC a few years back, but it wasn't anywhere near that cost, NOR did it require renewal that frequently, renewal was every 5 years.

More laughs,

So, not only is it impossible to get a CWP in the great state of California, but you can't open carry either? And IF you do the gun has to be unloaded? What are you gonna tell the guy trying to car jack you? "Can ya give me just a second to put the bullets in the magazine?"

STL240SXDRIFT

It is pretty easy to get a CWP here in St. Charles, MO (few miles west of STL). I was thinking about it...but I guess I need to get a smaller handgun as a carry gun. Oh yea...we have hollow-points in all of our guns too.

Sig or something like that...

TougeSR20Kid

This! Is exactly why I plan on leaving this stupid state... Toooo many fucking rules and regulations. Explain this to me: I live outside city limits, own my own pump, pump my own water directly from a river but still somehow I get a bill from the city every month for water consumption. Why?... Because California

You can have the magazine loaded, just not in the gun. This is why you will see holster setups being sold in CA with multiple separate magazine pouches. But even then open carry is a bad idea because there's a bunch of add ons to the law that stipulate where it's ok and not ok: schools, parks, government buildings, government property / land, within 1000 feet of certain buildings and schools, there's more I just can't remember off the top of my head... Not to mention that if you do open carry on California plan on talking to law enforcement because the avg person doesn't know it's legal and will call the cops.

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Darren

i think i'll just post pins in my map of all these places that have CWP and not go there... Sounds like everyone's packin'

DS562

.....what are you getting at?

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