rb26dett vs 2jz in s13 coupe - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Hyozan · 08-29-2011, 01:58 PM

Hi Ive seen both of these engines in all kinds of 240s. Im wondering which swap is best. Im pushing towards the rb26 right now. im looking at all the ups an down of these swaps, like price, installation, specs of the engines an all that stuff. anything will help, an please no negetivity

Zerolift Autolab · 08-29-2011, 04:59 PM

I must assume you have big power plans for the vehicle ?

JDM king240 · 08-29-2011, 05:08 PM

i want rb26 but it is expensive man ask the guy at raw6 too he is beast at this topic

murda-c · 08-29-2011, 05:37 PM

honestly i don't see any reason to go rb26 over 2jz. less displacement, rarer parts, turbos on wrong side...not worth it.

PoorMans180SX · 08-29-2011, 05:43 PM

As adamant as I am of putting a Nissan engine in an s-chassis, the 2jz seems to be much easier. And unless you plan a full, all-out build, it will make more power for less money.

towlie · 08-29-2011, 05:53 PM

Just do an rb25. Your 17, that will blow your socks off.

Hyozan · 08-29-2011, 08:14 PM

I do have some good plans coming up for this car, I want an everyday driver, thats really fun to drive, and I want to be able to take it to the track for the drifting an time attack races I do. There only reason why I wouldn want to but an rb25 is because Ive always wanted a twin turbo car an because Ive driven a 240 with an rb26 an another one with a rb25. an to be honest the rb26 was way better in my opinion, but still a very good engine. An as for the 2jz, I havent driven a car with one in it but i went for a ride along in an is300 with the twin turbo 2jz swap an that ride pretty amazing. I like both of these engines its jus looking for one in the long run with be cheaper, funner and easy to up an find parts.

chuki.s13.coupe. · 08-29-2011, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyozan

I like both of these engines its jus looking for one in the long run with be cheaper, funner and easy to up an find parts.

sr20 Msglngth

Hyozan · 08-29-2011, 08:20 PM

an also, if i did choose the jz, is it true both the 5 an 6 speed trans are weak transmissions?

SnakeKack · 08-29-2011, 08:30 PM

Hell no. The 6-speed is an amazing transmission. You'd probably want to go with the R154 transmission though. It's cheaper and pretty stout. Not as stout as the 6 speed but it's been known to handle heavy Supras with 700-800 HP. Besides, most 2JZ swaps kits and stuff like that are made in mind with using the R154.

chuki.s13.coupe. · 08-29-2011, 08:32 PM

Op, how much are you looking to invest in said swaps?

millsaps · 08-29-2011, 08:43 PM

rb30 thats what you want

Hyozan · 08-29-2011, 09:01 PM

Im jus looking to spend the amount needed to buy the stuff an put it in.

chuki.s13.coupe. · 08-29-2011, 09:31 PM

Your looking to spend $6,000+

qoOp · 08-29-2011, 09:40 PM

would also be fun smogging an rb unless u know someone

drift freaq · 08-29-2011, 09:53 PM

Fuck all that noise just drop a LS1 in there.

There this statement outta piss some people off. LOL

AS240 · 08-29-2011, 10:06 PM

I would definitely go with the 2jz over a 26. again, parts are easier to come by and cheaper from what ive seen. when my rb25 died from an oil pump failure from nissan's failed attemp at an oil pump drive on the crank (another reason to go jz over rb), i was seriously considering going 2j and selling off my entire swap. i would kill to have a 2jz with usdm twins and standard mods (fmic, exhaust, upped boost). almost 400whp with no lag; thats really all you would need for autox/drift.

mewantkouki · 08-29-2011, 10:26 PM

They are both heavy ass boat anchors and chances are at 17 years old you can't afford either of them.

KiLLeR2001 · 08-30-2011, 02:19 AM

I would go RB25 honestly. Most 2JZ owners go single turbo anyways to eliminate all the bullshit that comes along with the sequential setup.

*Wake* · 08-30-2011, 03:07 AM

Just picked up a VR38DETT for my s13.

Build thread coming soon......

CleanAndLegit · 08-30-2011, 04:54 AM

17? and you want a rb26 or 2jz, both go for over id say 5-6k+, will you be swapping yourself? wiring etc..., cheapest power is ls1 gl guy

Silverstone · 08-30-2011, 05:23 AM

13b.

/thread.

drift freaq · 08-30-2011, 12:04 PM

My LS1 comment was actually quite serious. If you look at it like this all the other engines discussed here are quite illegal for our cars. The LS1 actually gives HP numbers stock that are perfect for our cars. On top of that they can be totally legal done right and they get pretty damn decent gas mileage for a V8 as well.
I am on the VQ tip myself for two distinct reasons. Of all the engine setups for our cars only 2 stand a chance in hell to be legal for our cars. LS1 and VQ35.

Of these two the VQ setup is the lighter setup coming out and the exact same engine and trans weight setup as stock. Which means the car stays properly balanced.

This is my reasoning for running a VQ over a LS if I was not so hung up on this I would have already started moving down the road of an LS swap.

Oh and I ran a RB25 in a S13. As well as having SR powered S13's too.

Pro ViZIon · 08-30-2011, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WakeBHR

Just picked up a VR38DETT for my s13.

Build thread coming soon......

Haha. That's priceless.

Hyozan · 08-30-2011, 03:47 PM

Jus cause im 17 deosn mean i cant afford either. I have almos 7k saved up, an im jus trying to do research on these engines. An I dont want an ls series engine because my older brother lets me borrow his 70 chevelle, an I jus dont want a v8

Flicktitty · 08-30-2011, 04:18 PM

I would say of the two you listed do a 2JZGTE.

I have friends with RB25/RB26 swapped cars and they are alot of fun. But when and that is a WHEN not IF stuff breaks waiting days/weeks/months to find a replacement part sucks. Most if not all RB guy's i know have a stock pile of hard to find parts just incase something happens.

Where as a 2JZGTE you can get parts from Autozone/Advanced/Napa/etc oh not to mention a TOYOTA dealership. The swap isn't that hard at this point in time it is just MONEY all the hard work has been done by the founding swappers and have been put online.

either motor is a GOOD choice but 2JZ > 1JZ > RB26 > RB25

*Wake* · 08-30-2011, 04:25 PM

Says the guy with the 2JZ

lol

Hyozan · 08-30-2011, 04:53 PM

So your saying a 1jz or a 2jz over the rb's?

*Wake* · 08-30-2011, 05:09 PM

yes thats what he is saying

babillaracing · 08-30-2011, 05:16 PM

I would do a 2jz , but that just me .

08-29-2011, 01:58 PM	#1
Hyozan Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pomona Age: 27 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	rb26dett vs 2jz in s13 coupe Hi Ive seen both of these engines in all kinds of 240s. Im wondering which swap is best. Im pushing towards the rb26 right now. im looking at all the ups an down of these swaps, like price, installation, specs of the engines an all that stuff. anything will help, an please no negetivity

08-29-2011, 04:59 PM	#2
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08-29-2011, 05:37 PM	#4
murda-c Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery County, MD Age: 33 Posts: 3,197 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	honestly i don't see any reason to go rb26 over 2jz. less displacement, rarer parts, turbos on wrong side...not worth it. __________________

08-29-2011, 05:43 PM	#5
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,430 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	As adamant as I am of putting a Nissan engine in an s-chassis, the 2jz seems to be much easier. And unless you plan a full, all-out build, it will make more power for less money. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

08-29-2011, 09:53 PM	#16
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	Fuck all that noise just drop a LS1 in there. There this statement outta piss some people off. LOL __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

08-29-2011, 05:08 PM	#3
JDM king240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: california CA Posts: 438 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i want rb26 but it is expensive man ask the guy at raw6 too he is beast at this topic

08-29-2011, 05:53 PM	#6
towlie Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,496 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Just do an rb25. Your 17, that will blow your socks off.

08-29-2011, 08:14 PM	#7
Hyozan Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pomona Age: 27 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I do have some good plans coming up for this car, I want an everyday driver, thats really fun to drive, and I want to be able to take it to the track for the drifting an time attack races I do. There only reason why I wouldn want to but an rb25 is because Ive always wanted a twin turbo car an because Ive driven a 240 with an rb26 an another one with a rb25. an to be honest the rb26 was way better in my opinion, but still a very good engine. An as for the 2jz, I havent driven a car with one in it but i went for a ride along in an is300 with the twin turbo 2jz swap an that ride pretty amazing. I like both of these engines its jus looking for one in the long run with be cheaper, funner and easy to up an find parts.

08-29-2011, 08:20 PM	#9
Hyozan Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pomona Age: 27 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	an also, if i did choose the jz, is it true both the 5 an 6 speed trans are weak transmissions?

08-29-2011, 08:30 PM	#10
SnakeKack Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Florida Age: 33 Posts: 306 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Hell no. The 6-speed is an amazing transmission. You'd probably want to go with the R154 transmission though. It's cheaper and pretty stout. Not as stout as the 6 speed but it's been known to handle heavy Supras with 700-800 HP. Besides, most 2JZ swaps kits and stuff like that are made in mind with using the R154.

08-29-2011, 08:32 PM	#11
chuki.s13.coupe. Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 682 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Op, how much are you looking to invest in said swaps?

08-29-2011, 08:43 PM	#12
millsaps Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Age: 28 Posts: 79 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	rb30 thats what you want

08-29-2011, 09:01 PM	#13
Hyozan Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pomona Age: 27 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im jus looking to spend the amount needed to buy the stuff an put it in.

08-29-2011, 09:31 PM	#14
chuki.s13.coupe. Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 682 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Your looking to spend $6,000+

08-29-2011, 09:40 PM	#15
qoOp Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: zz Posts: 176 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	would also be fun smogging an rb unless u know someone

08-29-2011, 10:06 PM	#17
AS240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Tx Age: 31 Posts: 683 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I would definitely go with the 2jz over a 26. again, parts are easier to come by and cheaper from what ive seen. when my rb25 died from an oil pump failure from nissan's failed attemp at an oil pump drive on the crank (another reason to go jz over rb), i was seriously considering going 2j and selling off my entire swap. i would kill to have a 2jz with usdm twins and standard mods (fmic, exhaust, upped boost). almost 400whp with no lag; thats really all you would need for autox/drift.

08-29-2011, 10:26 PM	#18
mewantkouki Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Orlando, Fl Age: 35 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	They are both heavy ass boat anchors and chances are at 17 years old you can't afford either of them.

08-30-2011, 02:19 AM	#19
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	I would go RB25 honestly. Most 2JZ owners go single turbo anyways to eliminate all the bullshit that comes along with the sequential setup. __________________

08-30-2011, 03:07 AM	#20
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Just picked up a VR38DETT for my s13. Build thread coming soon...... __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

08-30-2011, 04:54 AM	#21
CleanAndLegit Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 3,693 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	17? and you want a rb26 or 2jz, both go for over id say 5-6k+, will you be swapping yourself? wiring etc..., cheapest power is ls1 gl guy __________________

08-30-2011, 05:23 AM	#22
Silverstone Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Land of Squinty Br0s Age: 32 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	13b. /thread. __________________ 1990 Skyline GTR 2001 Subaru WRX

08-30-2011, 12:04 PM	#23
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	My LS1 comment was actually quite serious. If you look at it like this all the other engines discussed here are quite illegal for our cars. The LS1 actually gives HP numbers stock that are perfect for our cars. On top of that they can be totally legal done right and they get pretty damn decent gas mileage for a V8 as well. I am on the VQ tip myself for two distinct reasons. Of all the engine setups for our cars only 2 stand a chance in hell to be legal for our cars. LS1 and VQ35. Of these two the VQ setup is the lighter setup coming out and the exact same engine and trans weight setup as stock. Which means the car stays properly balanced. This is my reasoning for running a VQ over a LS if I was not so hung up on this I would have already started moving down the road of an LS swap. Oh and I ran a RB25 in a S13. As well as having SR powered S13's too. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

08-30-2011, 03:47 PM	#25
Hyozan Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pomona Age: 27 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Jus cause im 17 deosn mean i cant afford either. I have almos 7k saved up, an im jus trying to do research on these engines. An I dont want an ls series engine because my older brother lets me borrow his 70 chevelle, an I jus dont want a v8

08-30-2011, 04:18 PM	#26
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 34 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I would say of the two you listed do a 2JZGTE. I have friends with RB25/RB26 swapped cars and they are alot of fun. But when and that is a WHEN not IF stuff breaks waiting days/weeks/months to find a replacement part sucks. Most if not all RB guy's i know have a stock pile of hard to find parts just incase something happens. Where as a 2JZGTE you can get parts from Autozone/Advanced/Napa/etc oh not to mention a TOYOTA dealership. The swap isn't that hard at this point in time it is just MONEY all the hard work has been done by the founding swappers and have been put online. either motor is a GOOD choice but 2JZ > 1JZ > RB26 > RB25 __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

08-30-2011, 04:25 PM	#27
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Says the guy with the 2JZ lol __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

08-30-2011, 04:53 PM	#28
Hyozan Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pomona Age: 27 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So your saying a 1jz or a 2jz over the rb's?

08-30-2011, 05:09 PM	#29
Wake Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, ca Age: 38 Posts: 6,699 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	yes thats what he is saying __________________ S.P.P.S. Member #00 CoUpe LOve Member #00

08-30-2011, 05:16 PM	#30
babillaracing Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: tampa Age: 45 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I would do a 2jz , but that just me . __________________ 618 whp tuned by alpha

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