Rust on quarter panel Fix vs. Panel - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

driven_ · 06-20-2008, 05:12 PM

hey guys, from searching a bit, i realized it would cost me a lot to fix the quarter panel, so i was wondering if its worth getting a rusted quarter panel fixed/restored, or should i just cut it off, and get a wide fender and slap that on?

this is all for an s14,
my s14 was treated like shizz by my uncle before i bought it, and it has a lot of rust.
it would be great to get your opinions,
sorry for being a effin' noob.
*if youre asking why i bought it, its because i bought it for 1300, and it seemed like a good deal for an SE with 126k miles.
here's some pictures.

NEW IDEA: how about fender flares? anybody seen em on s14's? grab me pictures if you can. it'll just save me some money.
Passenger Side

Driver Side

Midwest Cars + Midwest Snow/Salt = Herpes

**ThatGuy** · 06-20-2008, 05:14 PM

Pictures would help someone make a better decision for you.

jbuckley · 06-20-2008, 05:17 PM

chargespeed.

driven_ · 06-20-2008, 08:55 PM

1st bump.

msglength

Stewart Laak · 06-20-2008, 10:17 PM

My car has rust on the rear fenders just like yours. I cut out the rears
and threw on some 30mm overfenders and called it a day.

slidewaysmn · 06-20-2008, 10:41 PM

+1 on overfenders...i had the same thing..well not as bad, but my step dad backed into me, so i got em for free.

driven_ · 06-21-2008, 12:11 AM

i guess overfender is a good idea because i have a few small dents that might cost 100 each for just that "paintless dent removal"

my dad who decided to make his opinion on the look of my car said that it would look stupid,

thus, it should be welded to look clean.
from pictures on chargespeed.com, it looks like the overfender is obviously welded in/onto the car, and it looks cleaner. i guess my dad prefers that, but i could care less and i would just rivet, i'm also no good with welding/bodywork.

so i guess

EASY=rivet
HARD= weld

right? sorry for the long ass post.

nwmrkt · 06-21-2008, 12:12 AM

no they are riveted, Then molded via fiberglass/filler whatever.

driven_ · 06-21-2008, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidewaysmn

+1 on overfenders...i had the same thing..well not as bad, but my step dad backed into me, so i got em for free.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart Laak

My car has rust on the rear fenders just like yours. I cut out the rears
and threw on some 30mm overfenders and called it a day.

you guys got pictures?

that would make my decision clearer on how it'll turn out.

importantone · 06-21-2008, 12:49 AM

It would be easy enough to fix. It really depends what you want. If you are looking for as much wheel or tire you can put under stock fenders then fix it. If you want to go wider and be able just to cut the rust right off and rivet some flares on then go for that. I think it's more of a styling issue in this case than anything. What's your personal taste?

Mr.James · 06-21-2008, 01:49 AM

id go wide body...but theres still alot of bodywork involved...my father and i are currently working on my widebody install...it takes time to make it right, and you should fix the dents anyways for self satisfaction!

personally my car is worth more to me knowing that its done right whether it will be noticed or not.....

driven_ · 06-21-2008, 12:47 PM

i like looks, it gets the ladies. :P

but to be serious, the fenders would cover up the dents. if i dont do fenders, i'm gonna have to pull every little dent out, and theres like 5 just on that quarter panel where the fender will cover it up.

**ThatGuy** · 06-21-2008, 12:55 PM

Do you have wheels to fill wide fenders?

If not do you have funds to get wheels to fill wide fenders?

Do you have the horsepower to warrant spending the funds to get wheels to fill wide fenders?

Do you plan to paint the car anytime soon, or are you planning to run an underpowered, wide for no reason, skinny tired, un-painted, but not rusted, 240sx?

Just curious, and I want to make sure you are considering all the factors.

driven_ · 06-21-2008, 12:59 PM

i've got some decent 17x9's needing tires and a car.

**ThatGuy** · 06-21-2008, 01:01 PM

Heh, 9" wide tires don't need widebody.

Good luck man.

Just build it however it will make you happy.

driven_ · 06-21-2008, 01:04 PM

at least it covers up the rust *shrugs*

anybody got pictures of clean and painted ones?

JRas · 06-21-2008, 03:37 PM

that rust is horrible

when installing wide fenders you cut the original quarter panel higher before putting them on

driven_ · 06-21-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRas

that rust is horrible

when installing wide fenders you cut the original quarter panel higher before putting them on

yeah, i know.

ANYONE GOT PICTURES?!?!?!
cant find decent ones in the gallery.

driven_ · 06-22-2008, 10:46 PM

nvm i'll go to pic request.

gregfarz78 · 06-23-2008, 06:40 AM

That rust doesn't look too horrible I'd just cut it out and try to find a rust free piece from a junkyard 1/4 panel to weld in

ZX88 · 06-23-2008, 07:28 AM

it doesnt look that bad i would just grind it down and if its roted through just replace it with new sheet metal then roll the fenders. or you could just cut it away and do for some wide quarter pannels.

driven_ · 06-23-2008, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregfarz78

That rust doesn't look too horrible I'd just cut it out and try to find a rust free piece from a junkyard 1/4 panel to weld in

i bet you could barely find an s13 in the junkyards here. :/ so i highly doubt there would be anything for s14's.

gregfarz78 · 06-23-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driven_

i bet you could barely find an s13 in the junkyards here. :/ so i highly doubt there would be anything for s14's.

This is true around here too

but it probably wouldn't be very hard to get some 18ga sheet metal and form a new piece using the old cut piece as a guide.

06-20-2008, 05:12 PM	#1
driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Rust on quarter panel Fix vs. Panel hey guys, from searching a bit, i realized it would cost me a lot to fix the quarter panel, so i was wondering if its worth getting a rusted quarter panel fixed/restored, or should i just cut it off, and get a wide fender and slap that on? this is all for an s14, my s14 was treated like shizz by my uncle before i bought it, and it has a lot of rust. it would be great to get your opinions, sorry for being a effin' noob. if youre asking why i bought it, its because i bought it for 1300, and it seemed like a good deal for an SE with 126k miles. here's some pictures. NEW IDEA: how about fender flares? anybody seen em on s14's? grab me pictures if you can. it'll just save me some money.* Passenger Side Driver Side Midwest Cars + Midwest Snow/Salt = Herpes __________________ Find me on MR2oc! Last edited by driven_; 06-22-2008 at 10:46 PM..

06-20-2008, 05:14 PM	#2
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Pictures would help someone make a better decision for you. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

06-20-2008, 08:55 PM	#4
driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	1st bump. msglength __________________ Find me on MR2oc!

06-20-2008, 10:41 PM	#6
slidewaysmn Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brainerd, MN Age: 31 Posts: 136 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	+1 on overfenders...i had the same thing..well not as bad, but my step dad backed into me, so i got em for free. __________________ '95 Zenki '85 Cressida

06-21-2008, 12:11 AM	#7
driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i guess overfender is a good idea because i have a few small dents that might cost 100 each for just that "paintless dent removal" my dad who decided to make his opinion on the look of my car said that it would look stupid, thus, it should be welded to look clean. from pictures on chargespeed.com, it looks like the overfender is obviously welded in/onto the car, and it looks cleaner. i guess my dad prefers that, but i could care less and i would just rivet, i'm also no good with welding/bodywork. so i guess EASY=rivet HARD= weld right? sorry for the long ass post. __________________ Find me on MR2oc!

06-20-2008, 05:17 PM	#3
jbuckley BANNED Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Land of Riche$ Posts: 297 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	chargespeed.

06-20-2008, 10:17 PM	#5
Stewart Laak Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Woodbury, Mn Age: 42 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My car has rust on the rear fenders just like yours. I cut out the rears and threw on some 30mm overfenders and called it a day.

06-21-2008, 12:12 AM	#8
nwmrkt Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 155 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	no they are riveted, Then molded via fiberglass/filler whatever.

06-21-2008, 12:49 AM	#10
importantone Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 36 Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	It would be easy enough to fix. It really depends what you want. If you are looking for as much wheel or tire you can put under stock fenders then fix it. If you want to go wider and be able just to cut the rust right off and rivet some flares on then go for that. I think it's more of a styling issue in this case than anything. What's your personal taste? __________________ *GRIPPY'SGARAGE**

06-21-2008, 01:49 AM	#11
Mr.James Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pittsfield, Ma Age: 36 Posts: 237 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	id go wide body...but theres still alot of bodywork involved...my father and i are currently working on my widebody install...it takes time to make it right, and you should fix the dents anyways for self satisfaction! personally my car is worth more to me knowing that its done right whether it will be noticed or not.....

06-21-2008, 12:47 PM	#12
driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i like looks, it gets the ladies. :P but to be serious, the fenders would cover up the dents. if i dont do fenders, i'm gonna have to pull every little dent out, and theres like 5 just on that quarter panel where the fender will cover it up. __________________ Find me on MR2oc!

06-21-2008, 12:55 PM	#13
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do you have wheels to fill wide fenders? If not do you have funds to get wheels to fill wide fenders? Do you have the horsepower to warrant spending the funds to get wheels to fill wide fenders? Do you plan to paint the car anytime soon, or are you planning to run an underpowered, wide for no reason, skinny tired, un-painted, but not rusted, 240sx? Just curious, and I want to make sure you are considering all the factors. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

06-21-2008, 12:59 PM	#14
driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i've got some decent 17x9's needing tires and a car. __________________ Find me on MR2oc!

06-21-2008, 01:01 PM	#15
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Heh, 9" wide tires don't need widebody. Good luck man. Just build it however it will make you happy. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

06-21-2008, 01:04 PM	#16
driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	at least it covers up the rust shrugs anybody got pictures of clean and painted ones? __________________ Find me on MR2oc!

06-21-2008, 03:37 PM	#17
JRas Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 32 Posts: 1,503 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	that rust is horrible when installing wide fenders you cut the original quarter panel higher before putting them on __________________

06-22-2008, 10:46 PM	#19
driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	nvm i'll go to pic request. __________________ Find me on MR2oc! Last edited by driven_; 06-22-2008 at 10:48 PM.. Reason: gonna ask in pic request. :)

06-23-2008, 06:40 AM	#20
gregfarz78 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Your mom's basement Posts: 263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That rust doesn't look too horrible I'd just cut it out and try to find a rust free piece from a junkyard 1/4 panel to weld in

06-23-2008, 07:28 AM	#21
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 32 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	it doesnt look that bad i would just grind it down and if its roted through just replace it with new sheet metal then roll the fenders. or you could just cut it away and do for some wide quarter pannels.

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