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05-31-2007, 12:35 AM
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s14 SR20DET into s13 chasis - WIRING (I searched)
Anyone know of a write up, link or anything about wiring up a s14 SR20DET with wiring harness into a 1989 s13 SOHC chasis.
I have gone through dozens of pages on trying to look for this (even on other forums). I know some people make a living off of this, but someone must have some information for free  I know there are some connectors off of the harness which are not used, but which ones? I am not sure. Any sort of help would be greatly appreciated. I hope this thread can not just help myself, but others that are in the same situation. Thank you. |
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05-31-2007, 09:00 AM
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No time AND No money?!?!
Maybe you should take up another hobby... considering cars and/or racing require both! Send it off, you'll thank yourself for it. |
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05-31-2007, 09:14 AM
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05-31-2007, 10:33 AM
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haha i coulda told you that would happen, no one wants to give any information due to the fact that its how they make money...... this is what i did i went to drifting.com ordered the wiring video that shows you how to wire s14 to s13 chasis for $20 wired it up........ now the car is just waiting for heater hoses..............they should come in today...... now i cant tell you if it worked for me cuz we havent tried to start it up yet... ill let you know by the end of the weekend if it worked...... |
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05-31-2007, 04:26 PM
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I dont think its an issue of people wanting to make money. I think its more of an issue, there are not of s14 into s13 rollin around. Those who do have the swap may not have seen the thread or are to lazy to post.
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05-31-2007, 04:45 PM
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its super easy, you just need to re-route power, s13 powers the ecu and engine harness from the fuse box under hood and s14 powers it from a relay under dash. That is the main difference. The instrument cluster wiring is the same just deloom the harness and follow the power wires from the s14 ecu relay and reroute them through the engine harness back out to the s13 fuse box and use the connectors off your ka harness. Other stuff is the same cut and lengthen maf wire and o2 wire. Need to search around for wiring diagrams of s13 redtop into s14 and then reverse. There is a write up of that swap, I did mine with just wiring diagrams its only like 4-5 wires not that bad at all.
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05-31-2007, 05:05 PM
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Definetely send it out. I was gonna do it myself (s14sr in s13) and after looking at all the crap that's different between the s13 to the s14 i decided i'd bite the bullet and send it out to someone that has done it before.
Yury from Wiring Specialties is whom i went with. The guy knows his stuff and he'll help you in any way he can. It's been around 3 years since i had it done and if i remember correctly i paid around $260 or something like that with shipping. SEND IT OUT! |
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05-31-2007, 09:05 PM
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do what brianfood said. i wrote it up on a piece of paper a few months ago. here's the scan: http://www.driftingisgay.com/img/s14sr_in_s13.jpg
all color match up btw. oh yea, there was a thread on this: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=142928
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05-31-2007, 10:47 PM
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Thanks for the help guys.
The issue is not really about money and I don't have time to send stuff away. I have to get my car back on the road ASAP as it is my only vehicle at the moment. I'd also rather do it myself to save some cash and learn something at the sametime than giving it to someone else. When everyything is working fine and dandy, i'll probably just post some pics of the harness connections or something so this thread can be finally stickied. For now, I'll try my best to follow your writeup NRG and probably order that DVD off of drifting.com as a backup. For those of you who have done this before, would you be willing to shed some light on this for me and others or would you still charge an arm and a leg? |
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05-31-2007, 11:00 PM
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1 more thing.. bwake_5, which video did you get? I just want to clarify.
The first one has a picture of a s14 motor I think so I'd assume that would be OK as well. http://store.driftingshop.com/sh180sswandm.html http://store.driftingshop.com/srwidiindvd.html |
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06-02-2007, 09:17 AM
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well we tried to get it running yesterday..... everything is almost done, butt when we hooked up the battery just to see if we could get power to the interior it didnt work..... so we are at a standstill for now
i got the video that said s13,s14,s15 motor into s13 chasis wiring........ read the descriptions of the videos. it will tell you, it is a really good video. |
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06-02-2007, 02:02 PM
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you must have done something wrong. wiring up the motor to make it work with the car shouldn't affect the wiring for the interior. The wires for those are at the fuse box and they plug right in. S14, it doesn't even touch the wires. S13 swaps, a few wires from the lower tranny harness (same power wires to the battery) plugs into the fuse box to give the car power.
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06-02-2007, 02:30 PM
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06-04-2007, 02:13 AM
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super easy, i did it myself on my own car in about an hour. i used the relays on the engine harness. you dont need to lengthen maf wires, just untap some of the harness and theres tons of slack thats bundled up under the tape, 02 sensor wires will need to be lengthened alittle bit.
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06-04-2007, 10:36 PM
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Did you splice the brown connector or white connector to the big ECU plug?
From what I have heard, its supposed to be the 6 wires from the brown connector from the KA harness, but for my car I only have a white connector that matches the wires. Maybe someone was colour blind or something. I ordered that video so when I figure everything out, Im going to spill the beans so no one can make money on the wiring for this. |
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06-06-2007, 01:26 AM
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ORDER THE VIDEO for sure..... we got my car started tonight, we had the fuel lines on backwards. and missed a ground wire.... thats it!!!!!!!!!!!
now im runnin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the video was perfect, good luck with the swap, that video made the difference for me,,,, soooo easssyyyy |
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06-06-2007, 01:27 AM
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I SAY THAT IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ON HOW TO DO THE S14 MOTOR INTO THE S13 CHASIS THEN ORDER THE VIDEO ON HOW TO DO IT FROM
WWW.DRIFTING.COM IT WILL SAVE YOU I PROMISE!!!!!!!!!!! AND ONLY $20 |
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06-25-2007, 10:45 PM
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Ok well i finally got my video after 3 weeks of waiting. Its pretty straight forward for the most part. The order they did some stuff and some things were confusing, but I think I've done OK for the most part considering I don't know shit about shit. If anyone could give a little bit of help, that'd be great.
The Link I previously posted about wiring from Nissan Preformance Mag was wrong. Similiar, but incorrect to the s14 SR20DET Into the s13 chasis. I Also went over NRG's Notes; its a little different than what they said in the video. Actually a lot different. Not saying he's wrong. Maybe both ways are possible or I misunderstood what he was trying to say Here is what I am supposed to hook up from the White KA Connector to the SR Harness & SR ECU Plug: SR PLUG to KA Orange - Orange/Blue (from ECU) Red - Orange (from ECU) Blue/Black - Yellow (coming from the harness) Blue/Green - Blue/Green (Coming from the harness) Yellow/Red - Blue/Black (from ECU) Green - Green (from ECU) Black - Black (from ECU) Green/White - Green/White (Coming from the harness) 1. I'm supposed to match up the Green/White wires together from the white KA connector to the Green/White wire on the SR Harness (not from SR ECU Plug). The only problem is that I don't have a Green/White wire on my KA Plug, but I did find the wire on the SR Harness And.. do I connect the 3 black wires from the KA connector to all of the black wires on the ecu? Aren't they all ground? I just need to clarify. 2. I plugged in the KA Grey and Brown connectors that I spliced into my SR Harness - The ones near my battery. Now I am left with a bunch of connectors from the fuse box that I don't know what to do with. I'm sorry for my noobness, but I am trying my best. Are these supposed to go to my tranmission harness which I am to use from my KA or not connect these at all (which I doubt)? The gray connector in the purple box has the wires: Yellow/Blue White/Blue Green/Orange Blue/Green Yellow Yellow/Black Green/White The black connector in the red box has the wires: Black White The brown connector in the yellow box has the wires: Light green Light green/Red The gray connector in the blue box has the wires: White Black/White This gray connector is coming off of the KA harness that is coming from the fusebox. The wires are: Black Red/Blue Brown Yellow/Blue |
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06-26-2007, 07:31 PM
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3. Im not totally sure about this plug. Its coming from the chasis near the wheel well. Im thinking its a connection for my signal lights. It only has the wires:
Black White 4. These 2 plugs are coming off of my SR20 harness. Im thinking they are my plugs for my ignitor. I will try and do some more research on this of course, but if someone can give me a heads up, then even better. The wires for 1 plug are: Light Green Brown White Red The wires for the other plug are: Red/White Red/Yellow Red/Green Red/Blue Black 5. These 3 plugs are coming off of the KA harness and from a hole in the very corner where my ABS used to be. I was an idiot to not label some things when I was disconnecting and now I am paying for it. I've taken my ABS out and not sure if these plugs are for that or for something else. The wires from the plug in the white box are: Light Green/Red Gray/Red Blue Yellow Blue/Red Black The wires from the plug in the purple box are: Orange Red The wires from the plug in the yellow box are: Brown/Yellow Blue/Yellow Red/Yellow Green/Yellow 6. These 2 plugs are coming off of the KA harness just before the fuse box. I don't have a clue what these are for and if they are important or not. The wires from the plug in the green box are: Red Yellow White/Red Red/Yellow The wires from the plug in the red box are: Yellow/Green Black/White |
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06-26-2007, 07:41 PM
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leave the lower harness alone, you only need to worry about your main engine harness. Don't make things more complicated than they already are. A shop by me fixed someone who recently messed up on their wiring they cut all their wires by the fuse box
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06-26-2007, 07:54 PM
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Zilvia Junkie
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Ya thats the thing Im not sure about. Do I connect all of those wires I have mentioned to the KA lower harness (is that the same as the tranmission harness?). I've also taken out a lot of crap from my engine bay like the ABS, A/C and other misc stuff.
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06-26-2007, 11:21 PM
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OK well.. some stuff finally started to click in my head. I was freaking out on which lower harness to use because I wasn't able to find my stock KA one, but now I have.
So this fixes some of my questions for now. I will probably be back asking some other stupid stuff in the next couple days. Thanks for your patience anyways guys. |
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06-26-2007, 11:31 PM
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ALL! of your lower harness plugs in. you do nothing with them but plug them into where they belong.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../fuseboxka.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...fuseboxka2.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...box_chasis.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ar_fusebox.jpg http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...rner_plugs.jpg all those plugs into somewhere near the fuse block. http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...itor_plugs.jpg ignitor goes into those plugs i dont understand how you can be so confused. The gray and brown harness runs on the side of the engine bay. right beside the battery. it goes from the engine harness, around the shock towers, under the coolant reservoir, to two plugs right beside the battery. That's the only plug you have to use. you just extend wires from the S14 SR20 F3 plug to that area.
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06-26-2007, 11:50 PM
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alright. thanks nrg. i realize what I had to do now. Im still not quite sure about the plugs near the corner of the engine bay, but I will try to figure it out on my own for now. For the ignitor plugs, thats what I thought, but I just needed some reassurance.
I have a q45 Ignitor chip so I got some information from heavytrottle.com on how to wire 1 of the plugs into it, but still not so sure about the other one. Heres the link to the document. I have a q45 ignitor chip by the looks of it. http://srownersclub.com/faq/faq_ignitor.asp On the plug that is supposed to go to the coil packs, the wires are: Red Red/Green Red/Blue Red/White But, the wires on the plug on my SR harness are: Light Green Brown White Red What do I do? |
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06-27-2007, 07:11 AM
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youre in way to deep i think and arent looking at this in a manor that you should be... just send me the harness and let me make it for you. it will look better than factory and work 110%
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