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rcsmith01 · 03-23-2005, 11:00 PM

I was thinking today, what if the Japanese came to watch us drift. Practically everyone is running the same cars as in Japan, 240's and Hachi's.

When they come here they want to see american muscle at the tracks, Mustangs, Camaro's, Vettes etc.

Just like when we go to Japan, we want to see the cars we don't have here, Skylines, S15's etc.

Just a thought.

Andrew Bohan · 03-23-2005, 11:01 PM

they should go watch drag racing then.

TurDz · 03-23-2005, 11:23 PM

No, they'd be flattered.

Chernobyl · 03-24-2005, 01:18 AM

Nascar. They love nascar.

MakotoS13 · 03-24-2005, 07:28 AM

FC's S13's and AE86's are popular because:

they're dirt cheap

vettes and higher end american muscle:

sucks if you hit a cone or wall or whatever

i'm thinking about gettin a new GT stang this year and i'd take the S13 to autoX, a dorifto event, or track meet WAY before that sucker

the head · 03-24-2005, 08:24 AM

Biggest problems with camaros and trans ams is the fact that they don't have a very wide sweep in ther steering range compared to most other cars so 1. you cant get as much angle because you hit the lock too soon and 2 the cars are rather notorious for going into tank slappers when they come out of a slide or losing traction to the front end when the rear hooks up

MakotoS13 · 03-24-2005, 10:27 AM

Fbodies are not for road racing or anything requiring more than straight line efficiency. i've driven SUV's and trucks with a tighter turning radius.

they sure do look hawt though

HyperTek · 03-24-2005, 11:49 AM

American cars suck!!! less quality per dollar... and the designes just are not as efficient..sloppy designs imo, they needed brute force via v8s just to move those dam boats.. hence why these are mostly popular in the home market, not overseas, where as european and japanese cars are loved world wide.

drftwerks · 03-24-2005, 11:55 AM

uh, japanese LOVE american car, go to a japanese book store ad go see all the american car mags, and see how much they are selling the cars for.

Yoshi · 03-24-2005, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftwerks

uh, japanese LOVE american car, go to a japanese book store ad go see all the american car mags, and see how much they are selling the cars for.

Totally! They love the USDM hotness, hahaha

Seriously tho, they have a cult following for UDSM stuff just like we have the same for JDM here... u know how much those crazy peepz will pay for Autometer gauges just cuz they're american? UGH. I'll take GReddy or Omori gauges over autometer any day.

the head · 03-24-2005, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

Fbodies are not for road racing or anything requiring more than straight line efficiency. i've driven SUV's and trucks with a tighter turning radius.

they sure do look hawt though

actually autox wise the WS6 and firehawk versions handle well I have competed in auto x since I was 16 first in a 94 1LE interceptor Transam and now in a 99 WS-6 the car does rather well and is very competitive in it's class

Angel · 03-24-2005, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the head

actually autox wise the WS6 and firehawk versions handle well I have competed in auto x since I was 16 first in a 94 1LE interceptor Transam and now in a 99 WS-6 the car does rather well and is very competitive in it's class

My 96 firebird handled very well. Custom spring rate eibachs, koni double adjustables, subframe connectors, triangulated strut brace, 17x9.5 17x11.5 forgelines with michelin mxx3's 295 front 315 rear, and although it didn't help in the grip department 383 stroker 416 rwhp and 13.5" 6 piston alcons to slow it down...... it was a really easy car to go fast in and was fairly light because I started with a stripper v8 model no pw, pl, t-tops leather etc.

The ROMAN · 03-24-2005, 02:54 PM

I had a 94 formula. They do handle well they just can feel really big (because they are) in tight turns and quarters. I've actually been thinking about getting another.

Angel · 03-24-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The ROMAN

I had a 94 formula. They do handle well they just can feel really big (because they are) in tight turns and quarters. I've actually been thinking about getting another.

No doubt exagerated by the huge dash and long nose, but mine felt pretty light on it's feet and it was so easy to throttle steer that car..... good power from just off idle all the way up. And turn in was really good.

Lost interest in it when I bought a 95 supra turbo and my wife started daily driving the pontiac until I finally sold it, now I wish I had kept it.

Oh yeah I forgot that it had sway bars, diff, carbon driveshaft, alu. flywheel as well.

The ROMAN · 03-24-2005, 03:25 PM

heh yeah I've never been in a car that had such an enormous dash. I love how GM shoehorns the engine in under it so you can't change all the spark plugs.

Mine just had a bunch of engine bolt-ons, programmer and SS wheels, oh and it was a six-speed. Dammit I want another.

HyperTek · 03-24-2005, 04:01 PM

handles well comparing to what?? a stock fbody versus a modded fbody doesnt tell much..

S13 Charlie · 03-24-2005, 04:07 PM

A buddy of mine here at work used to work at TRD (USA) and told me a story about taking a Japanese Engineer to the Drag Races at Pomona.. At first the Japanese Engineer didn't "get it", that is, he didn't understand why we Americans were spending so much time with these enormous engines. Then when the first Top-Fuel car went down the track and he'd about crapped his pants, he turned to my buddy and said something like "wow, now I get it".

On Topic though, I think they'd be neither flattered nor disappointed, there's a reason why these lightweight, inexpensive cars are so popular for drifting..

-C

MakotoS13 · 03-24-2005, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

American cars suck!!! less quality per dollar... and the designes just are not as efficient..sloppy designs imo, they needed brute force via v8s

hey mental giant, america invented the sports car. really? yes. some guy a long long time ago said "i wonder what would happen if i put my big huge truck motor in my tiny coupe. ba'am instant hotrod.

foreign is more loved ALWAYS. in the UK BMW's are like fords are over here. in japan the Japanese cars are all over theplace so people like what's different what's different? oh some lumpy high torque NA V8 powered muscle car.

so, before you hate on your heritage and prove to the world what a short sighted arse you can really be i recommend a little self reflection to help dissolve the ignorance you so boldly distribute.

infinitexsound · 03-24-2005, 06:45 PM

different taste in motorsport, we drive what we like...

AenjukuCar · 03-24-2005, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

American cars suck!!! less quality per dollar... and the designes just are not as efficient..sloppy designs imo, they needed brute force via v8s just to move those dam boats.. hence why these are mostly popular in the home market, not overseas, where as european and japanese cars are loved world wide.

you might wanna look in the middle east there is alot of rich arab people over their that love vettes. And the new C6 Z06 is going to have 500horsepower and be lighter. They dont call it the snake eater for nothing.

HyperTek · 03-24-2005, 08:43 PM

corvette is and always was originally european influence since its creation...

and that craze america created was the "hot rod" .. supped up street cars and street racing... not the true sports car.

Im not hating on american cars.. when i was a kid, we had a 5.0 mustang that i thought was the coolest cars in teh world... even as i got older, i drove that thing and it would scare me shitless with torque..

Its just that majority of the car designs imo, where designed to fit the image that america demands,.. tons of power in a straight line in a huge car.

I can see how a japanese person would be interested, becuase it is different then what they have... somewhat how we jock thier things... I personally dont plan to buy an american car anytime soon...

But then again, its bastards like me who ruin the economy by not buying american

IGSDann · 03-24-2005, 09:44 PM

I just like what's fast, good handling and good looking... Why debate about where it comes from?

TurDz · 03-24-2005, 09:51 PM

I think it's just a matter of different priorities. In Japan, it seems technology, efficiency, and wow factor is at the top of their lists, even in ordinary passenger cars. Same with Europe. Personally, American race culture is still based around straight line acceleration. Fast to the majority of Americans is fast in a straight line, not a race track. So I guess you can say you always want something you can't have.

MurdarioStomp · 03-25-2005, 10:37 AM

exactly. seems like the default question down here in mountain town athens is "whats that lil jap car run in the quarter mile?" i dont care...its fun to drive in other directions than straight

AKADriver · 03-25-2005, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

foreign is more loved ALWAYS. in the UK BMW's are like fords are over here.

Fords are domestics in the UK (Ford UK has a long history of building unique cars unrelated to US models), BMWs are imports there. Also BMWs are so loved, they're like Fords in most US cities now too, hahaha. 325i's as far as the eye can see!

Euro drifters love their BMWs though. Guys in the UK have a larger percentage of Japanese cars than the mainland, lots of 200SXs. But yeah, BMW 3-series. I came really close to buying an E30 before I found my second S13, but it ended up getting sold. It was a '91 318i, a 4-door with the nicer looking small bumpers and the high-winding 16v M42B18 motor, not the old 8v M10B18 that gives the 318i a bad name.

Annoying Eric · 03-25-2005, 05:17 PM

I <3 my z28...

**ThatGuy** · 03-25-2005, 05:40 PM

ImageStation > You

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Annoying Eric · 03-25-2005, 07:49 PM

AlligatorBling · 03-25-2005, 08:39 PM

Q: Would the japanese be dissapointed?
A: Hell no, theyd say God bless them American boys for all they worth.

kuramaya · 03-25-2005, 09:04 PM

Well with over 6 years in Japan and multiple locations I can tell you that I have seen maybe 6 Firebirds and Z28's combined..not many..now you do see a shit load of full size chevy pick ups and vans...

03-23-2005, 11:00 PM	#1
rcsmith01 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Would the japanese be dissapointed? I was thinking today, what if the Japanese came to watch us drift. Practically everyone is running the same cars as in Japan, 240's and Hachi's. When they come here they want to see american muscle at the tracks, Mustangs, Camaro's, Vettes etc. Just like when we go to Japan, we want to see the cars we don't have here, Skylines, S15's etc. Just a thought.

03-23-2005, 11:23 PM	#3
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No, they'd be flattered. __________________

03-24-2005, 08:24 AM	#6
the head Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: in a dark room mastering the art of typing with one hand Posts: 2,164 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Biggest problems with camaros and trans ams is the fact that they don't have a very wide sweep in ther steering range compared to most other cars so 1. you cant get as much angle because you hit the lock too soon and 2 the cars are rather notorious for going into tank slappers when they come out of a slide or losing traction to the front end when the rear hooks up __________________ I never knew you could do that with an eggplant

03-24-2005, 11:49 AM	#8
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	American cars suck!!! less quality per dollar... and the designes just are not as efficient..sloppy designs imo, they needed brute force via v8s just to move those dam boats.. hence why these are mostly popular in the home market, not overseas, where as european and japanese cars are loved world wide. __________________ Keep it Classy

03-24-2005, 11:55 AM	#9
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	uh, japanese LOVE american car, go to a japanese book store ad go see all the american car mags, and see how much they are selling the cars for. __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

03-23-2005, 11:01 PM	#2
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Location: Location Posts: 8,330 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	they should go watch drag racing then.

03-24-2005, 01:18 AM	#4
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 38 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Nascar. They love nascar.

03-24-2005, 07:28 AM	#5
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FC's S13's and AE86's are popular because: they're dirt cheap vettes and higher end american muscle: sucks if you hit a cone or wall or whatever i'm thinking about gettin a new GT stang this year and i'd take the S13 to autoX, a dorifto event, or track meet WAY before that sucker

03-24-2005, 10:27 AM	#7
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Fbodies are not for road racing or anything requiring more than straight line efficiency. i've driven SUV's and trucks with a tighter turning radius. they sure do look hawt though

03-24-2005, 02:54 PM	#13
The ROMAN Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NJ Age: 38 Posts: 730 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I had a 94 formula. They do handle well they just can feel really big (because they are) in tight turns and quarters. I've actually been thinking about getting another.

03-24-2005, 03:25 PM	#15
The ROMAN Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NJ Age: 38 Posts: 730 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	heh yeah I've never been in a car that had such an enormous dash. I love how GM shoehorns the engine in under it so you can't change all the spark plugs. Mine just had a bunch of engine bolt-ons, programmer and SS wheels, oh and it was a six-speed. Dammit I want another.

03-24-2005, 04:01 PM	#16
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	handles well comparing to what?? a stock fbody versus a modded fbody doesnt tell much.. __________________ Keep it Classy

03-24-2005, 04:07 PM	#17
S13 Charlie Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	A buddy of mine here at work used to work at TRD (USA) and told me a story about taking a Japanese Engineer to the Drag Races at Pomona.. At first the Japanese Engineer didn't "get it", that is, he didn't understand why we Americans were spending so much time with these enormous engines. Then when the first Top-Fuel car went down the track and he'd about crapped his pants, he turned to my buddy and said something like "wow, now I get it". On Topic though, I think they'd be neither flattered nor disappointed, there's a reason why these lightweight, inexpensive cars are so popular for drifting.. -C

03-24-2005, 06:45 PM	#19
infinitexsound Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INtraweb Age: 39 Posts: 3,522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	different taste in motorsport, we drive what we like... __________________ S14 TrackSlut coming to a raceway near you... 510 TimeAttack on its way...

03-24-2005, 08:43 PM	#21
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	corvette is and always was originally european influence since its creation... and that craze america created was the "hot rod" .. supped up street cars and street racing... not the true sports car. Im not hating on american cars.. when i was a kid, we had a 5.0 mustang that i thought was the coolest cars in teh world... even as i got older, i drove that thing and it would scare me shitless with torque.. Its just that majority of the car designs imo, where designed to fit the image that america demands,.. tons of power in a straight line in a huge car. I can see how a japanese person would be interested, becuase it is different then what they have... somewhat how we jock thier things... I personally dont plan to buy an american car anytime soon... But then again, its bastards like me who ruin the economy by not buying american __________________ Keep it Classy

03-24-2005, 09:44 PM	#22
IGSDann Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Age: 34 Posts: 427 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just like what's fast, good handling and good looking... Why debate about where it comes from? __________________ Pushing 14.7 PSI of all natural boost!!!

03-24-2005, 09:51 PM	#23
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it's just a matter of different priorities. In Japan, it seems technology, efficiency, and wow factor is at the top of their lists, even in ordinary passenger cars. Same with Europe. Personally, American race culture is still based around straight line acceleration. Fast to the majority of Americans is fast in a straight line, not a race track. So I guess you can say you always want something you can't have. __________________

03-25-2005, 10:37 AM	#24
MurdarioStomp Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio Age: 37 Posts: 242 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	exactly. seems like the default question down here in mountain town athens is "whats that lil jap car run in the quarter mile?" i dont care...its fun to drive in other directions than straight __________________ www.ohiodrifting.com

03-25-2005, 05:17 PM	#26
Annoying Eric Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC / Indiana Age: 35 Posts: 830 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: Annoying Eric Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I <3 my z28...

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03-25-2005, 08:39 PM	#29
AlligatorBling BANNED Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Virgina Age: 39 Posts: 856 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Q: Would the japanese be dissapointed? A: Hell no, theyd say God bless them American boys for all they worth.

03-25-2005, 09:04 PM	#30
kuramaya Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 沖縄 , Japan Age: 48 Posts: 1,677 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kuramaya Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Well with over 6 years in Japan and multiple locations I can tell you that I have seen maybe 6 Firebirds and Z28's combined..not many..now you do see a shit load of full size chevy pick ups and vans... __________________ ZEROYON WEBSITE IS HOMO NEW SITE: blacklinux.com/innersanctum/index.php

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