Is 350-375rwhp fast? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Boostage · 09-26-2007, 10:39 AM

In an s14 chassis does that kind of power give you a rush? I know its probably too much for the average joe, who thinks a 200hp 2007 civic is "fast"

But for the true car nut, who actually put time and money into making that kind of power, do think its plenty power? a buddy of mine has a 620hp supra, too me that feels about as much as you would ever want on the street, but his car weighed in over 3750 lbs. and had 285 Pirelli's I figure an s14 clocking in under 2900 lbs should feel similar with less power

I am almost done with my project and maybe Im warped by huge numbers on the internet, but now I am thinking 350-375hp might leave alot more to be desired, when I initially set my goal I figured it would give me the crazy acceleration. how does this much power feel to you guys? do you want more, or is it just too much for you?

mr_240sx · 09-26-2007, 10:45 AM

honestly anything over 350rwhp is overkill for the street and even for the track you dont need anything over 350 to have fun!

drift freaq · 09-26-2007, 10:50 AM

Ok my suggestion is go there and find out yourself. In fact in a 2700-2800 pound car to most people that kind of HP feels very fast. To many people shoot for numbers they have no idea about. There are members here that are putting down crazy numbers most of them are doing it with single ended track cars i.e. Drag,Drift or Time attack. There are a couple with big number street cars.

I have a 300whp at 11lb's of boost RB Powered s13 its very fast. Faster than most people would be able to handle or really want and thats not even at its full potential. Now that I have my 550 injectors in I am ready to boost up. Though the car is out the door I have new projects lined up.

I would say you would be happy with those numbers in a S14 for awhile. Take it one step at a time. Get a setup with 250-300whp and get comfortable with it. Learn to be at home with it. Then go higher till you decide its fucking fast. lol. No one can accurately tell you if its to fast or not in the end its up to you. Some people can handle those numbers and others don't feel comfortable with it. Its on you man.

mRclARK1 · 09-26-2007, 10:59 AM

My SR powered 240 was no more then 275 at the wheels (only had it dynoed once, but upped boost etc. after that... never got final numbers before it's demise)... and that was stupid quick on the street.

Honestly, I would never put anymore then 300-325WHP in an S-chassis that's a street car... you just don't need it. It's crazy fun and fast before and at that point. Track car is another story.

Something I think is a good idea though; is try to at least get a quick ride in another 240, or car with similar weight etc., with similar HP numbers to your goals, to get a feel of what you're going to have. My goal originally was 400HP, then I rode along in a, track only, RB powered S13 with roughly 425hp. That was WAY more then I wanted/excpected I realized, and I adjusted my HP goals down accordingly... and saved money.

haha

Boostage · 09-26-2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mRclARK1

My SR powered 240 was no more then 275 at the wheels (only had it dynoed once, but upped boost etc. after that... never got final numbers before it's demise)... and that was stupid quick on the street.

Honestly, I would never put anymore then 300-325WHP in an S-chassis that's a street car... you just don't need it. It's crazy fun and fast before and at that point. Track car is another story.

Something I think is a good idea though; is try to at least get a quick ride in another 240, or car with similar weight etc., with similar HP numbers to your goals, to get a feel of what you're going to have. My goal originally was 400HP, then I rode along in a, track only, RB powered S13 with roughly 425hp. That was WAY more then I wanted/excpected I realized, and I adjusted my HP goals down accordingly... and saved money.

haha

Thats exactly what I want to do, but I dont know too many s14 owners in South FL. I know alot of supra guys though.. if I could get a feel to know what to expect that would help, but since I dont, I guess I have to go based on what people on here say..

steve shadows · 09-26-2007, 11:04 AM

Im at 419-437whp on pump gas with a gallon of 111 mix for protection depending on boost.

this is utterly retarded for the street.

on hankook rs-2 245 40 17 in back (on 8 inch wheel) aired down to 18 psi).

I have pretty much no traction and the car wants to kill me in anything other than 4th gear roll on's on the freeway.

This is a gt30r with 264 step 2 cams, haltech, very conservative tuning and greddy IM.

On drag radials it would be managable.

if you dont mind driving around on DR's all the time then WHP levels over 375 on the street should be much more managable.

my car is at 2550 or so curb wieght right now give or take. that doesnt help either.

It might be more managable in an s14.

most form D and D1 s-chasis cars are well under 450 whp.

drift freaq · 09-26-2007, 11:08 AM

lol^^^^^ Steve props to you for driving that much on the street.

Z_Spool · 09-26-2007, 11:21 AM

Yeah, I’m shooting to have roughly 350HP (with ability to tune for more/less when desired) out of a twin-cam KA. It’s quick while still remaining civil for DD and reliable for long term.

mRclARK1 · 09-26-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve shadows

Im at 419-437whp on pump gas with a gallon of 111 mix for protection depending on boost.

this is utterly retarded for the street.

on hankook rs-2 245 40 17 in back (on 8 inch wheel) aired down to 18 psi).

I have pretty much no traction and the car wants to kill me in anything other than 4th gear roll on's on the freeway.

This is a gt30r with 264 step 2 cams, haltech, very conservative tuning and greddy IM.

On drag radials it would be managable.

if you dont mind driving around on DR's all the time then WHP levels over 375 on the street should be much more managable.

my car is at 2550 or so curb wieght right now give or take. that doesnt help either.

It might be more managable in an s14.

most form D and D1 s-chasis cars are well under 450 whp.

I would be dead by now with that much on the street... plain and simple.

I tip my hat to you sir. You have a lighter foot, and more self control then I. haha

steve shadows · 09-26-2007, 11:26 AM

I think 350whp on most dyno measurements is perfect.

for most racing

if you do 350 whp on a dynodynamics you should be in the high elevens

400 whp on a dynojet mid to high elevens in the 1/4

350whp can also be had with a more responsive turbo.

The other thing is torque.

s chasis with around 300-320 ft lbs of wheel torque is prerfect for pretty much everything.

im at 333-340 right now but the peaking power band and higer over hp is what makes traction an even bigger probelm.

Edgar · 09-26-2007, 11:33 AM

I must be a fag, but I think 12psi on a stock t25 is fast enough

umsports · 09-26-2007, 11:44 AM

To each his own I guess. My 400whp KA-T is my DD and our RB is now making 630 on E85 and while its fast we're still shooting for a lot more. Eventually 300 feels slow and then 400 feels slow and so on and so on.

Full-Lock · 09-26-2007, 11:46 AM

my s14 made 650whp...i daily it.

nevaland9 · 09-26-2007, 11:52 AM

ive got a gt2871r and step ones at 14psi prob makin a little under 350 and i beat..everything?

Cake walks:
E63 AMG
B7 RS4
997 GT3
06 Viper
340WHP 2.5 STI swaped GC8

Close calls:
C6 Z06
M6
GSXR 750
450WHP S/C Mustang
newest 389WHP SS camaro

Losses:
700whp Evo (wowzers)
C6 Z06 w/ exhaust and nitrous
650whp Kenny Bell S/C Cobra

its alright...it used to be faster before paint.

daryl337 · 09-26-2007, 11:57 AM

My old '72 nova made 690 WHP and ran a high 10 second 1/4... but I drove that thing on the street anyways... it was just fine for me.

90rps13 · 09-26-2007, 12:02 PM

I'm hitting 320 whp on my s13 and thought that was pretty quick at one point. Maybe it's just me and my never being satisfied, but I always want more. You just get used to it after a while. I think 400 will do it for me.....for a little while anyway...

I agree with drift freaq. Take it in steps. Don't go for big power all in one shot especially if you don't have experience with that kinda hp.

Idiots + too much HP = Lotta accidents

Just my 2 pesos....

thejapino · 09-26-2007, 12:05 PM

"fast" is a relative term. Whats 'fast' for some may not be 'fast' for others, vice versa. I've only ridden in a +- 300hp S13 and I'd like mine to be that fast, meanwhile some would call that car ok or not so fast

. try riding in some other peoples cars to get a feel of how fast you wanna go. Then live a quarter mile at a time.

PRADOgy · 09-26-2007, 12:26 PM

Had a streetported 13b, 3mm seals,on a Microtech, off a superT70 making 322 @19psi whp on a convertable fc s5 chassis..i thought i was the shit.. man it was so not cool at all.. i will one to admit i dont need this much power aside of the 10 mpg on the sucka.. but that was way too much power for dd... i mean seriously an uncomfy punch of boost and breaks traction 1st and 2nd. just kinda got annoying.. im working on 250ish hp.. for my coupe.. and think this is perfect for a rush and for dd IMO

eastcoastS14 · 09-26-2007, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOPSECRT88

my s14 made 650whp...i daily it.

I had a 350whp s14....350whp is crazy fast, riding the spool isnt bad but nailing the gas hard and letting it rip is pretty fucking scary. I landed it into a telephone pole...and I can tell you once you get up in that range traction does not exist

steve shadows · 09-26-2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOPSECRT88

my s14 made 650whp...i daily it.

dyno graph thats pretty fucking awesome...

nevaland9 · 09-26-2007, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastcoastS14

I had a 350whp s14....350whp is crazy fast, riding the spool isnt bad but nailing the gas hard and letting it rip is pretty fucking scary. I landed it into a telephone pole...and I can tell you once you get up in that range traction does not exist

350whp is alright...theres plenty of traction ive got the silk roads real stiff with 235 pirelli p zeros and like -4 camber and hardly have traction problems in 2nd with a welded diff. man up sonnnnnn

350whp is good...youll be faster than almost any car that you can buy at a dealership.

Full-Lock · 09-26-2007, 01:18 PM

yeaaa ill post up the dyno sheet when i get home.

Bad40r7 · 09-26-2007, 01:24 PM

Of course 350whp is "fast". with that light of a car, and the turbo you are using for that power is going to make it feel insane. Now, go get a 42r, set it at the boost level it would make 350whp on, and it wouldnt feel NEAR as fast, even when it was in boost. Powerband has alot to do with it.

To guys who are complaing about traction, if you had proper tires, that were actually fit for the size of the rim and maximum tread, you would have no problems, at all. Im not saying this to anyone, but obviously 240s are the "drifter" trend and you guys like to run stretched tires, which kill your traction in the straight line.

wannabe_drifter · 09-26-2007, 01:46 PM

TOPSECRT88 --> haha I love that !!! that is insane !!! I'd love to do that.

My cousin has got a 650 hp mustang and drives it around quite a bit, I guess it is just a matter of what you are used to !!!

Just don't go from 200 hp one day to 450 hp the other ...

spirit · 09-26-2007, 01:48 PM

Threads like this make me

and wish I had $$$$ to get a stanalone and tune my sr gt2871r that currently dynos at 155hp (6psi, no boost controller)

Boostage · 09-26-2007, 01:53 PM

Im glad to hear the majority thinks 350rwhp is plenty, just for the record, I am dropping in a 1jz with a t3/62-1 with crower 264 cams, my WG spring is 11lbs so minimum I should make off the wastegate is 330rwhp. and about 450+ on 15 psi. but based on whats said here I might not even hook up the boost controller for a while..if 350 is that crazy. motor should be swapped in a few weeks.

drift freaq · 09-26-2007, 02:04 PM

I can say that my RB with the GT2530 while some may consider it small is exactly what makes my car so damn quick. It spools instantly or damn near. It also keeps on rolling because its ball bearing. Its good for a 16lbs. What that basically means is no lag.
I should also add at 16lbs the car should be in the 350rwhp club with ease.

When you put a large turbo on a engine and the turbo is so big it will not spool till 4k you might do big HP numbers but it will feel that way unless your nailing it. End result is the car may not feel as quick because you lose bottom end torque in favor of HP. Torque is what makes a car feel quick HP is what keeps the car rolling. I.E. Torque gets you off the line but HP keeps you going at higher speeds. Thats why road race engines have nothing below 4k. They are constantly rolling so they do not need the torque for getting off the line. conversely a drag try's to strike balance going for as much torque as possible to get off the line but a lot of HP as well to keep the car rolling at a high rate of speed down the strip.

Now I can't wait for my goal of the 300whp NA VQ

mRclARK1 · 09-26-2007, 02:12 PM

^^^Someone should sticky that.lol... I think a lot of members on here still don't understand the whole Torque and horsepower stuff and which has more effect where.

Koopa Troopa · 09-26-2007, 02:22 PM

I've ridden in several cars with plenty of power

T66 FC3S
450 whp S14
450 whp AE86
384 whp C34
380 whp S14
T04R JZX90
400 whp 180

Two cars that have scared me the most...

A 32 GTR with no interior, cage, 2 way rear diff/ 1.5 way front, diff controller set to 50/50 and stock motor

A EG6 Civic making 180 whp.

I'm shooting for 450 for my S14 and that isn't enough to make me competive at the Sunday night drags but it's more than enough to have some fun.

Koopa Troopa · 09-26-2007, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

When you put a large turbo on a engine and the turbo is so big it will not spool till 4k you might do big HP numbers but it will feel that way unless your nailing it. End result is the car may not feel as quick because you lose torque in favor of HP. Torque is what makes a car feel quick HP is what keeps the car rolling. I.E. Torque gets you off the line but HP keeps you going at higher speeds. Thats why road race engines have nothing below 4k. They are constantly rolling so they do not need the torque for getting off the line. conversely a drag try's to strike balance going for as much torque as possible to get off the line but a lot of HP as well to keep the car rolling at a high rate of speed down the strip.

Uh you make more torque with a bigger turbo and the remedy for turbo lag is called a 2 step rev limiter.

09-26-2007, 10:39 AM	#1
Boostage Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 220 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Is 350-375rwhp fast? In an s14 chassis does that kind of power give you a rush? I know its probably too much for the average joe, who thinks a 200hp 2007 civic is "fast" But for the true car nut, who actually put time and money into making that kind of power, do think its plenty power? a buddy of mine has a 620hp supra, too me that feels about as much as you would ever want on the street, but his car weighed in over 3750 lbs. and had 285 Pirelli's I figure an s14 clocking in under 2900 lbs should feel similar with less power I am almost done with my project and maybe Im warped by huge numbers on the internet, but now I am thinking 350-375hp might leave alot more to be desired, when I initially set my goal I figured it would give me the crazy acceleration. how does this much power feel to you guys? do you want more, or is it just too much for you?

09-26-2007, 10:50 AM	#3
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	Ok my suggestion is go there and find out yourself. In fact in a 2700-2800 pound car to most people that kind of HP feels very fast. To many people shoot for numbers they have no idea about. There are members here that are putting down crazy numbers most of them are doing it with single ended track cars i.e. Drag,Drift or Time attack. There are a couple with big number street cars. I have a 300whp at 11lb's of boost RB Powered s13 its very fast. Faster than most people would be able to handle or really want and thats not even at its full potential. Now that I have my 550 injectors in I am ready to boost up. Though the car is out the door I have new projects lined up. I would say you would be happy with those numbers in a S14 for awhile. Take it one step at a time. Get a setup with 250-300whp and get comfortable with it. Learn to be at home with it. Then go higher till you decide its fucking fast. lol. No one can accurately tell you if its to fast or not in the end its up to you. Some people can handle those numbers and others don't feel comfortable with it. Its on you man. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

09-26-2007, 10:59 AM	#4
mRclARK1 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Location? Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My SR powered 240 was no more then 275 at the wheels (only had it dynoed once, but upped boost etc. after that... never got final numbers before it's demise)... and that was stupid quick on the street. Honestly, I would never put anymore then 300-325WHP in an S-chassis that's a street car... you just don't need it. It's crazy fun and fast before and at that point. Track car is another story. Something I think is a good idea though; is try to at least get a quick ride in another 240, or car with similar weight etc., with similar HP numbers to your goals, to get a feel of what you're going to have. My goal originally was 400HP, then I rode along in a, track only, RB powered S13 with roughly 425hp. That was WAY more then I wanted/excpected I realized, and I adjusted my HP goals down accordingly... and saved money. haha __________________

09-26-2007, 11:04 AM	#6
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Im at 419-437whp on pump gas with a gallon of 111 mix for protection depending on boost. this is utterly retarded for the street. on hankook rs-2 245 40 17 in back (on 8 inch wheel) aired down to 18 psi). I have pretty much no traction and the car wants to kill me in anything other than 4th gear roll on's on the freeway. This is a gt30r with 264 step 2 cams, haltech, very conservative tuning and greddy IM. On drag radials it would be managable. if you dont mind driving around on DR's all the time then WHP levels over 375 on the street should be much more managable. my car is at 2550 or so curb wieght right now give or take. that doesnt help either. It might be more managable in an s14. most form D and D1 s-chasis cars are well under 450 whp. __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

09-26-2007, 11:08 AM	#7
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	lol^^^^^ Steve props to you for driving that much on the street. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

09-26-2007, 10:45 AM	#2
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 35 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	honestly anything over 350rwhp is overkill for the street and even for the track you dont need anything over 350 to have fun!

09-26-2007, 11:21 AM	#8
Z_Spool Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO Age: 35 Posts: 1,507 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah, I’m shooting to have roughly 350HP (with ability to tune for more/less when desired) out of a twin-cam KA. It’s quick while still remaining civil for DD and reliable for long term. __________________ -Robert R.

09-26-2007, 11:26 AM	#10
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I think 350whp on most dyno measurements is perfect. for most racing if you do 350 whp on a dynodynamics you should be in the high elevens 400 whp on a dynojet mid to high elevens in the 1/4 350whp can also be had with a more responsive turbo. The other thing is torque. s chasis with around 300-320 ft lbs of wheel torque is prerfect for pretty much everything. im at 333-340 right now but the peaking power band and higer over hp is what makes traction an even bigger probelm. __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

09-26-2007, 11:33 AM	#11
Edgar Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Indianapolis,IN Posts: 4,979 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I must be a fag, but I think 12psi on a stock t25 is fast enough __________________ Drift Indy

09-26-2007, 11:44 AM	#12
umsports Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 1,016 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: umsports Feedback Score: 0 reviews	To each his own I guess. My 400whp KA-T is my DD and our RB is now making 630 on E85 and while its fast we're still shooting for a lot more. Eventually 300 feels slow and then 400 feels slow and so on and so on. __________________ 2010 R35 GTR 600whp @21 PSI (E85) 1998 RB26DETT 240SX [email protected]

09-26-2007, 11:46 AM	#13
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my s14 made 650whp...i daily it. __________________

09-26-2007, 11:52 AM	#14
nevaland9 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Island, New York/Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,251 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: nevaland9 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ive got a gt2871r and step ones at 14psi prob makin a little under 350 and i beat..everything? Cake walks: E63 AMG B7 RS4 997 GT3 06 Viper 340WHP 2.5 STI swaped GC8 Close calls: C6 Z06 M6 GSXR 750 450WHP S/C Mustang newest 389WHP SS camaro Losses: 700whp Evo (wowzers) C6 Z06 w/ exhaust and nitrous 650whp Kenny Bell S/C Cobra its alright...it used to be faster before paint. __________________ CEO @ Sticky Garage 516-993-7315 -Jason Check out my warehouse! Last edited by nevaland9; 09-26-2007 at 12:20 PM..

09-26-2007, 11:57 AM	#15
daryl337 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pac NW Age: 35 Posts: 589 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My old '72 nova made 690 WHP and ran a high 10 second 1/4... but I drove that thing on the street anyways... it was just fine for me. __________________ This is my clever and witty signature.

09-26-2007, 12:02 PM	#16
90rps13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Covina, CA Age: 45 Posts: 411 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I'm hitting 320 whp on my s13 and thought that was pretty quick at one point. Maybe it's just me and my never being satisfied, but I always want more. You just get used to it after a while. I think 400 will do it for me.....for a little while anyway... I agree with drift freaq. Take it in steps. Don't go for big power all in one shot especially if you don't have experience with that kinda hp. Idiots + too much HP = Lotta accidents Just my 2 pesos....

09-26-2007, 12:05 PM	#17
thejapino Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The City By The Water - YEEE! Posts: 605 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	"fast" is a relative term. Whats 'fast' for some may not be 'fast' for others, vice versa. I've only ridden in a +- 300hp S13 and I'd like mine to be that fast, meanwhile some would call that car ok or not so fast . try riding in some other peoples cars to get a feel of how fast you wanna go. Then live a quarter mile at a time. __________________ WTB: 13kg springs! Eibach, Stance, or Swift.

09-26-2007, 12:26 PM	#18
PRADOgy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Japan Age: 35 Posts: 1,161 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: PRADOgy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Had a streetported 13b, 3mm seals,on a Microtech, off a superT70 making 322 @19psi whp on a convertable fc s5 chassis..i thought i was the shit.. man it was so not cool at all.. i will one to admit i dont need this much power aside of the 10 mpg on the sucka.. but that was way too much power for dd... i mean seriously an uncomfy punch of boost and breaks traction 1st and 2nd. just kinda got annoying.. im working on 250ish hp.. for my coupe.. and think this is perfect for a rush and for dd IMO __________________ しょうがない

09-26-2007, 01:18 PM	#22
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeaaa ill post up the dyno sheet when i get home. __________________

09-26-2007, 01:24 PM	#23
Bad40r7 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 33 Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Of course 350whp is "fast". with that light of a car, and the turbo you are using for that power is going to make it feel insane. Now, go get a 42r, set it at the boost level it would make 350whp on, and it wouldnt feel NEAR as fast, even when it was in boost. Powerband has alot to do with it. To guys who are complaing about traction, if you had proper tires, that were actually fit for the size of the rim and maximum tread, you would have no problems, at all. Im not saying this to anyone, but obviously 240s are the "drifter" trend and you guys like to run stretched tires, which kill your traction in the straight line.

09-26-2007, 01:46 PM	#24
wannabe_drifter Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Québec, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 245 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	TOPSECRT88 --> haha I love that !!! that is insane !!! I'd love to do that. My cousin has got a 650 hp mustang and drives it around quite a bit, I guess it is just a matter of what you are used to !!! Just don't go from 200 hp one day to 450 hp the other ... __________________

09-26-2007, 01:48 PM	#25
spirit Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: california Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Threads like this make me and wish I had $$$$ to get a stanalone and tune my sr gt2871r that currently dynos at 155hp (6psi, no boost controller)

09-26-2007, 01:53 PM	#26
Boostage Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 220 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Im glad to hear the majority thinks 350rwhp is plenty, just for the record, I am dropping in a 1jz with a t3/62-1 with crower 264 cams, my WG spring is 11lbs so minimum I should make off the wastegate is 330rwhp. and about 450+ on 15 psi. but based on whats said here I might not even hook up the boost controller for a while..if 350 is that crazy. motor should be swapped in a few weeks.

09-26-2007, 02:04 PM	#27
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	I can say that my RB with the GT2530 while some may consider it small is exactly what makes my car so damn quick. It spools instantly or damn near. It also keeps on rolling because its ball bearing. Its good for a 16lbs. What that basically means is no lag. I should also add at 16lbs the car should be in the 350rwhp club with ease. When you put a large turbo on a engine and the turbo is so big it will not spool till 4k you might do big HP numbers but it will feel that way unless your nailing it. End result is the car may not feel as quick because you lose bottom end torque in favor of HP. Torque is what makes a car feel quick HP is what keeps the car rolling. I.E. Torque gets you off the line but HP keeps you going at higher speeds. Thats why road race engines have nothing below 4k. They are constantly rolling so they do not need the torque for getting off the line. conversely a drag try's to strike balance going for as much torque as possible to get off the line but a lot of HP as well to keep the car rolling at a high rate of speed down the strip. Now I can't wait for my goal of the 300whp NA VQ __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html Last edited by drift freaq; 09-26-2007 at 02:27 PM..

09-26-2007, 02:12 PM	#28
mRclARK1 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Location? Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^Someone should sticky that.lol... I think a lot of members on here still don't understand the whole Torque and horsepower stuff and which has more effect where. __________________

09-26-2007, 02:22 PM	#29
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I've ridden in several cars with plenty of power T66 FC3S 450 whp S14 450 whp AE86 384 whp C34 380 whp S14 T04R JZX90 400 whp 180 Two cars that have scared me the most... A 32 GTR with no interior, cage, 2 way rear diff/ 1.5 way front, diff controller set to 50/50 and stock motor A EG6 Civic making 180 whp. I'm shooting for 450 for my S14 and that isn't enough to make me competive at the Sunday night drags but it's more than enough to have some fun. __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

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