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spooled240 · 04-02-2016, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike s14

I have z33 track calipers and rotors in the front and in the back. I needed to change one of the "ears" on the knuckles to make the calipers fit. I'm using steel aftermarket knuckles, so it wasn't a big problem. Grind it off and weld it back. Was going with a z32 handbrake setup, but couldn't get it to work. Right side didn't lock up. Probably because of the aftermarktet knuckles. Think i needed to change one of the r33 handbrake cables to a s13 one (which are normally to short if i'm not mistaken). But i just gone with a hydraulic handbrake. BMC is a z32 non abs bm57. Balance if pretty off, rear needs more force. Rear end is just to loose when braking hard. Dancing all over the place when braking hard. As you can see in the picture, the rear caliper is sitting pretty low:

Not sure whats up with your hydro, but it sounds like your z32 ebrakes werent adjusted correctly(at the drums, not the handle). All you need is a flathead to adjust the shoes wider to the point where the rotors fit snug, but still spin.

Mike s14 · 04-03-2016, 03:32 AM

Believe me, i've tried and i tried and i tried, haha. That's why i said that you'll need a shorter handbrake cable that goes to the left rear.

Photo is from a few years ago. All the stickers are gone.

spooled240 · 04-04-2016, 07:59 PM

My ebrakes work fine with the r33 cables on my s14. I believe one side is longer than the other so maybe you had them flipped? I dunno, something doesnt sound right with your setup..

DRFT180 · 04-05-2016, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatduece

Is that a special powder for high temp brakes? (If there is such a thing) How many track sessions have you put on them, any fade in color?

There might be but this isn't any sort of special powder.

I've done two lapping days and competed in Global Time Attack, I also daily drive the car. No signs of fading or fatigue.

BananaBandolero · 04-19-2016, 07:51 PM

I picked up some Z32 NA hub & ebrake assemblies in an effort to build up parts for the full Z32 swap onto my S14... what should I look for on the brake/hub to convince myself they're in good shape?

Visually they're pretty clean, much less surface rust than I usually see on the pics in swaps. Spins smoothly enough by hand, takes maybe as much force as turning a door handle. Anything else I should look for? Seems like the main test is wheel-wiggling once it's all mounted up, but I wanted to check what I could before going that far.

BoostyMcZface · 04-20-2016, 07:00 AM

I'm trying to do 370 akebonos front and rear. I gotta figure out my ebrake setup. Anyone running that setup?

Ramonesfreak2010 · 04-20-2016, 11:21 AM

^You use a Z32 ebrake setup. I plan on running these as well.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 04-20-2016, 12:55 PM

Z32 rears with modified (or trimmed) dust plates.

Had a set on an S14. They're massive.

Would have kept them, but they really limited my wheel options. Pretty much mandatory to run 18's up front.

17x9 +0 TE's.

BoostyMcZface · 04-20-2016, 01:21 PM

Niceeeee. Yeah I run Z1 two piece rotors on my z34 and love them. Plus I'd like to keep the brake feel the same on both cars. I'm assuming I can use the z32 ebrake setup with the Z34 rear caliper.. then I can use the two piece front and rear.

spooled240 · 04-20-2016, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoostyMcZface

I'm trying to do 370 akebonos front and rear. I gotta figure out my ebrake setup. Anyone running that setup?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramonesfreak2010

^You use a Z32 ebrake setup. I plan on running these as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the 370z ebrakes larger than the z32? I looked at a 370z FSM to verify this but couldn't find any specs on it.

..unless you're talking about running some kind of custom two piece rear rotor?

Wykydtron · 04-20-2016, 04:20 PM

No one's tried to swap STi Brembro's onto the S13 knuckles? I'm wondering what kind of bracket needs to be made to do this.

BoostyMcZface · 04-21-2016, 08:50 AM

I could email Jon at Z1 and ask him or measure the inside of my 370z rear rotor and compare. I'd hope they're the same. Otherwise I don't think it'd be hard to find a set off a 370 since there's probably not much of a market for them so junkyard find should be easy

ehhhregartless · 06-04-2016, 09:51 AM

dreaMervaj · 08-02-2016, 05:45 PM

I didn't want to make a new thread so I thought I would ask here.

Is it mandatory to run 18's if Evo X calipers are installed in the front? Or would 17's clear and be dependent of the design of the wheel/rims?

I recall my Work Equips barely clearing Z32 calipers on my first Kouki.......

DrftKingIII · 08-02-2016, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreaMervaj

I didn't want to make a new thread so I thought I would ask here.

Is it mandatory to run 18's if Evo X calipers are installed in the front? Or would 17's clear and be dependent of the design of the wheel/rims?

I recall my Work Equips barely clearing Z32 calipers on my first Kouki.......

If I recall correctly, 17's are possible but with very tight clearances.

dreaMervaj · 08-02-2016, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrftKingIII

If I recall correctly, 17's are possible but with very tight clearances.

I may just go with the Z32's since I know they clear; barely cleared my Work Equips though so I'm almost positive I would not clear the Evo's since they look a lot thicker....

Anyone want a set of Evo X calipers? LOL.

Pblesh85 · 08-02-2016, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreaMervaj

I didn't want to make a new thread so I thought I would ask here.

Is it mandatory to run 18's if Evo X calipers are installed in the front? Or would 17's clear and be dependent of the design of the wheel/rims?

I recall my Work Equips barely clearing Z32 calipers on my first Kouki.......

I know first hand the answer to this.

Evo x front with oem 350mm rotor

Sti rear with z32 rotor and z32 drum ebrake

So to answer the question simply, yes 17's fit over Evo x fronts. BUT ONLY CERTIAN WHEELS...

ALOT has to do with the shape of the barrel not so much offset(I'm not going to dive into that because a lot changes as the width/offset changes). So the main focus is shape of barrel and spoke design.

Wheels THAT CLEAR

te37 no spacer needed
Advan rg2 no spacer needed
Rays ms01 25mm spacer needed and some grinding of the caliper is required(very small amount)
Panasport c5c2 22-25mm spacer

I'm sure there are others out there but this is a list of what I know works.

Now a list of what DOES NOT CLEAR

Work vs-xx
Regamasters
Volk cen28
Prodrive gc 06
Sprint heart cp035(close but no luck)
Rpf1's

Again there are a lot more, but I only have so many sets to try.

Wheels THAT MAY CLEAR

Rays lmgt4
Volk se37
Meisters s1
Professor's

I hope this answers a few questions. I am not going to post any other pics as I am not going to spoil my build thread that's soon to be posted.

dreaMervaj · 08-03-2016, 12:39 PM

^^ Thanks for the detailed response!

Z32 it is... thought I'm quite sad.

crzsteveo · 08-03-2016, 02:50 PM

^ naw screw the z32!! Go big or go home! CTSV brakes clear works cr kai17x9+17 easily. It's all the two/3 piece wheels you will have to worry about clearing.

turboshoebox · 08-03-2016, 03:53 PM

Guy in kangaroo land is selling these for 2600 USD!!! must have (for R chasis but fits s)

kashira kureijii · 08-04-2016, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboshoebox

Guy in kangaroo land is selling these for 2600 USD!!! must have (for R chasis but fits s)

But will they stop as well as greddy or hks brakes?

These brakes are made by some lombard hillbillies in some Italian backwater, they are far inferior to their jdm counterparts.

crzsteveo · 08-04-2016, 07:59 PM

There also just brembos check Amazon. You can get brand new ones for 140-400. Ctsv 4 pot 140, 6 pot like 250 each

dudermagee · 08-04-2016, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crzsteveo

There also just brembos check Amazon. You can get brand new ones for 140-400. Ctsv 4 pot 140, 6 pot like 250 each

That's what I did.

Guess I'll be getting some works Cr kai too

Xaser · 08-04-2016, 10:31 PM

Front:
Wilwood Forged Superlites 6Pot a little more piston area than R34GTR.
Willwood Floating Rotor 12.76" with ARP bolt and 304 Wire.
Wilwood BP-20 Pads
Willwood Lines

Rear:
Z32 Caliper full RB
Willwod Slotted Disc
EBC red Stuff Pads
Custom Stainless Lines

I put the Z32 or 1 11/16 Brake pump, and i dont know yet if the oem booster go fine with this setup, the Z32 dosnt fit for the turbo.

ehhhregartless · 08-06-2016, 09:22 PM

ehhhregartless · 09-18-2016, 09:17 AM

ehhhregartless · 09-24-2016, 04:22 PM

Ramonesfreak2010 · 09-26-2016, 11:53 AM

Who made those Greddy calipers after they stopped using Alcon?

Pniles856 · 11-06-2016, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo Nismo

Have any one ever installed Evo VIII/VI rear Brembo calipers on an S14? Any link or thread that could help? Thanks.

I'm trying to get in contact with street faction
They have a rear dual caliper set up it's a cts-v rear caliper and a 300zx rear caliper and i can't find anyone on here that has done the swap but I'm going to call them tommorow to see if they can make me a bracket .

http://streetfaction.myshopify.com/p...nt=12146287809

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Moore · 12-16-2016, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaser

Front:
Wilwood Forged Superlites 6Pot a little more piston area than R34GTR.
Willwood Floating Rotor 12.76" with ARP bolt and 304 Wire.
Wilwood BP-20 Pads
Willwood Lines

Rear:
Z32 Caliper full RB
Willwod Slotted Disc
EBC red Stuff Pads
Custom Stainless Lines

Older post but hoping someone has feed back on the 6 piston wilwoods.

Have you had this set up out on a track yet? or anyone else with the 6 piston set up. I am worried the balance would be off a fair bit with only stock z32 rears. what would be a good rear caliper to match?

Also where did you purchase the calipers from. Only place I have found them:

http://www.fastbrakes.com/product_p/...0sx%2013-6.htm
Thanks

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04-03-2016, 03:32 AM	#152
Mike s14 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Netherlands Age: 34 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Believe me, i've tried and i tried and i tried, haha. That's why i said that you'll need a shorter handbrake cable that goes to the left rear. Photo is from a few years ago. All the stickers are gone.

04-04-2016, 07:59 PM	#153
spooled240 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 4,142 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	My ebrakes work fine with the r33 cables on my s14. I believe one side is longer than the other so maybe you had them flipped? I dunno, something doesnt sound right with your setup..

04-19-2016, 07:51 PM	#155
BananaBandolero Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: New York Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I picked up some Z32 NA hub & ebrake assemblies in an effort to build up parts for the full Z32 swap onto my S14... what should I look for on the brake/hub to convince myself they're in good shape? Visually they're pretty clean, much less surface rust than I usually see on the pics in swaps. Spins smoothly enough by hand, takes maybe as much force as turning a door handle. Anything else I should look for? Seems like the main test is wheel-wiggling once it's all mounted up, but I wanted to check what I could before going that far.

04-20-2016, 07:00 AM	#156
BoostyMcZface Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Washington Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm trying to do 370 akebonos front and rear. I gotta figure out my ebrake setup. Anyone running that setup?

04-20-2016, 11:21 AM	#157
Ramonesfreak2010 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Silver Spring, MD Age: 29 Posts: 963 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	^You use a Z32 ebrake setup. I plan on running these as well.

04-20-2016, 01:21 PM	#159
BoostyMcZface Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Washington Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Niceeeee. Yeah I run Z1 two piece rotors on my z34 and love them. Plus I'd like to keep the brake feel the same on both cars. I'm assuming I can use the z32 ebrake setup with the Z34 rear caliper.. then I can use the two piece front and rear.

04-21-2016, 08:50 AM	#162
BoostyMcZface Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Washington Posts: 221 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I could email Jon at Z1 and ask him or measure the inside of my 370z rear rotor and compare. I'd hope they're the same. Otherwise I don't think it'd be hard to find a set off a 370 since there's probably not much of a market for them so junkyard find should be easy

08-02-2016, 05:45 PM	#164
dreaMervaj Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SC Posts: 866 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I didn't want to make a new thread so I thought I would ask here. Is it mandatory to run 18's if Evo X calipers are installed in the front? Or would 17's clear and be dependent of the design of the wheel/rims? I recall my Work Equips barely clearing Z32 calipers on my first Kouki.......

08-03-2016, 12:39 PM	#168
dreaMervaj Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SC Posts: 866 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	^^ Thanks for the detailed response! Z32 it is... thought I'm quite sad.

08-03-2016, 02:50 PM	#169
crzsteveo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: manasshole, VA Posts: 876 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^ naw screw the z32!! Go big or go home! CTSV brakes clear works cr kai17x9+17 easily. It's all the two/3 piece wheels you will have to worry about clearing.

08-03-2016, 03:53 PM	#170
turboshoebox Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: wc Age: 39 Posts: 675 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Guy in kangaroo land is selling these for 2600 USD!!! must have (for R chasis but fits s)

08-04-2016, 07:59 PM	#172
crzsteveo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: manasshole, VA Posts: 876 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	There also just brembos check Amazon. You can get brand new ones for 140-400. Ctsv 4 pot 140, 6 pot like 250 each

08-04-2016, 10:31 PM	#174
Xaser Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Arg. Posts: 311 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Front: Wilwood Forged Superlites 6Pot a little more piston area than R34GTR. Willwood Floating Rotor 12.76" with ARP bolt and 304 Wire. Wilwood BP-20 Pads Willwood Lines Rear: Z32 Caliper full RB Willwod Slotted Disc EBC red Stuff Pads Custom Stainless Lines I put the Z32 or 1 11/16 Brake pump, and i dont know yet if the oem booster go fine with this setup, the Z32 dosnt fit for the turbo.

09-26-2016, 11:53 AM	#178
Ramonesfreak2010 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Silver Spring, MD Age: 29 Posts: 963 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Who made those Greddy calipers after they stopped using Alcon?

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