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drift freaq · 10-08-2009, 09:31 PM

Seriously guys a Beems engine is not to be sneezed at. They are fucking sick ass NA engines. They have more HP than the 2J that comes in the stateside IS and they are a lot lighter. An IS300 with the Beems engine that came in the car in Japan would be sick and not legal. I.E. back in the I have a SR in my 240 catagory.

I thought seriously about an IS300 still do sometimes. Mike did not do a bad job of summing it up though. Its a nice ride thats too expensive for what it is. It also gets shit for gas mileage.
To me the whole point of a 4 door daily is getting something that is fun to drive but is still a presentable civilized automobile that can turn in decent to great gas mileage. Hence it being a daily driver.
Now while the IS definitely nails the first two points it fails on the third. Plus being a Lexus its costly and overpriced. I.E. overrated.

Seriously what are you guys trying to achieve. You say you want a daily but then you want to start putting turbo's on and doing engine swaps. At that point you have killed the whole idea of the daily.
Dailies are not supposed to be fucked with. A little suspension to drop it a little and some wheels and call it a fucking day. Simple reliable, good gas mileage, presentable cars nothing more.

Leave the turbo's and engine swaps to your project cars.

S14_Kouki · 10-08-2009, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamg

great replies

well swapping the motor out is out of the question. all that work and extra $ on a car i will be financing isn't worth it.

how much power can the IS handle up to? assuming it's boosted.

A IS 2jge can handle around 700 hp

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

you on the wrong forum homie
my.IS - Lexus IS Forum

Im on the right forum Im just trying to give ideas.

jamg · 10-08-2009, 09:36 PM

that's about what i want.

having the luxuries and be able to sit 5 in the car
having nice interior
sit comfortable
be boost, because boosting is fun
and have average MPG, because of boost

a nice drop, some wheels, and an already boosted car is good enough for me.
maybe do some autocross with it, but that's about it.

drift freaq · 10-08-2009, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamg

that's about what i want.

having the luxuries and be able to sit 5 in the car
having nice interior
sit comfortable
be boost, because boosting is fun
and have average MPG, because of boost

a nice drop, some wheels, and an already boosted car is good enough for me.
maybe do some autocross with it, but that's about it.

well I don't think the IS will fit your bill because it gets shit gas mileage. Tops is like 23-24 FWY. Oh and its not boosted.

Honestly, your asking for a lot of things, that are most likely not going to come in the same package.
I would hazard to say your better off with STI based on what you wrote above.

jamg · 10-08-2009, 09:45 PM

eh, maybe you are right..

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14_Kouki

A IS 2jge can handle around 700 hp

Im on the right forum Im just trying to give ideas.

what about the tranny? when will it go poop on you?
and how much would going boost on the IS break your wallet?

S14_Kouki · 10-08-2009, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drift freaq

well I don't think the IS will fit your bill because it gets shit gas mileage. Tops is like 23-24 FWY. Oh and its not boosted.

Honestly, your asking for a lot of things, that are most likely not going to come in the same package.
I would hazard to say your better off with STI based on what you wrote above.

STI's have the worst interior I have ever sat in. My 240 has better interior then a sti

tsx1racer04 · 10-08-2009, 10:12 PM

IS300 is the way to go. Great daily driver however as mentioned above by Drift Freaq, it gets real shitty gas mileage (good luck pulling maybe 21mpg?).

To answer your question, the 2jzge makes 210-215hp and 215lbs torque. But, SAE corrected is around 204hp (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

From most forums, the stock internals can handle some good boosting before it blows, say around 450whp? I hear the stock autobox is actually stronger than the 5spd manual. Stronger in terms of handling power.

My friend has a 1jzgte GS300, it's pretty decent for a daily driver. Twin turbo's are real fun. Anyways, the point is, if you want to drive fast get the STI. If you want an actual daily driver, get the IS300.

Or get the one thats a better deal!!!

VROOOM · 10-08-2009, 10:38 PM

Subaru Legacy 2.5GT

ronmcdon · 10-08-2009, 11:33 PM

Youre probably going to have to re-evaluate your preferences and/or budget.
You cant honestly expect to pay $10k for luxury, performance, & mpg.

ixfxi · 10-08-2009, 11:35 PM

The 2JZGE is a very inefficient motor, and the vehicle's weight doesnt help it in any way.

My SC which is low mileage and well maintained gets SHIT gas mileage, like absolutely no more than 21-22. The motor is a strong motor, very reliable.. but just inefficient in every way. Its kinda a pain to work on considering the intake manifold design, which is completely stupid. I cant understand how the engineers thought it was a *good* idea to fucking slap it on top and across the engine block. Changing spark plugs ends up being a fuckin multi-hour job.

I've thought time and time again about what would be a good 4 door vehicle, RWD, that is pleasant to drive. The best solution is the G35 or G37 sedan, and preferably the most recent version which has bi-xenon projectors and nicer styling. I really do like that car, 3.7L with lots of power and class.

Its expensive (for now) but in the near future, it would be a good car to own. OBD2 but it makes enough power that its worth keeping and not modding. Only basic things like exhaust and intake, wheels, suspension, etc...

I'm keeping the SC and considering someday doing an 2JZ-GTE with it, as its a nice grand tourer. Its comfortable and spacious, fantastic AC, good seats, nice styling. Like Dave, we've both considered the IS but it just doesnt fit the bill. Funny thing about upgrading to turbo/6-speed status, is that its a near 10k investment. Thats a LOT of money, but its a LOT of car. In some ways, it would be more practical to purchase the Supra, unless you really are stuck on the IS, GS, or in my case, the SC.

edit: I dont think I'de ever want to own a Supra Turbo though. Too much car and well, parking it in the garage would be an insult to my S13. My S13 will always reign supreme. Fuck a Supra, rather put that money towards a real car (Ariel Atom).

Mike

RiversideS13 · 10-09-2009, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14_Kouki

A IS 2jge can handle around 700 hp

Im on the right forum Im just trying to give ideas.

hmm, maybe i had not been to the forum for a while, but i didn't know 3sgte swap can be done. i knew beam 3sge swap been done and i seen the car in person (the owner claim the only advantage is more balance on the track). but i am not aware anyone done 3sgte... what transmission can it mate with?

if i remember correctly, IS300 has 3 catalytic converters and 4 oxygen sensors ....i think that is what killed the power

S14_Kouki · 10-09-2009, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiversideS13

hmm, maybe i had not been to the forum for a while, but i didn't know 3sgte swap can be done. i knew beam 3sge swap been done and i seen the car in person (the owner claim the only advantage is more balance on the track). but i am not aware anyone done 3sgte... what transmission can it mate with?

if i remember correctly, IS300 has 3 catalytic converters and 4 oxygen sensors ....i think that is what killed the power

Man you can put any engine in any car. Iv actually seen a 3s in a 240. Putting one in a IS would prob be pretty easy seeing how they come with them in japan so, costume mounts alittle wiring and im sure you can use the tranny it comes with. Plus the 3s stock bottom end can handle like 700hp.

JVD · 10-09-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14_Kouki

Man you can put any engine in any car. Iv actually seen a 3s in a 240. Putting one in a IS would prob be pretty easy seeing how they come with them in japan so, costume mounts alittle wiring and im sure you can use the tranny it comes with. Plus the 3s stock bottom end can handle like 700hp.

He's looking for a fun DD.

Not a fabrication intense project car.

S14_Kouki · 10-09-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JVD

He's looking for a fun DD.

Not a fabrication intense project car.

A fun DD = s2000

10-08-2009, 09:31 PM	#31
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,558 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	Seriously guys a Beems engine is not to be sneezed at. They are fucking sick ass NA engines. They have more HP than the 2J that comes in the stateside IS and they are a lot lighter. An IS300 with the Beems engine that came in the car in Japan would be sick and not legal. I.E. back in the I have a SR in my 240 catagory. I thought seriously about an IS300 still do sometimes. Mike did not do a bad job of summing it up though. Its a nice ride thats too expensive for what it is. It also gets shit for gas mileage. To me the whole point of a 4 door daily is getting something that is fun to drive but is still a presentable civilized automobile that can turn in decent to great gas mileage. Hence it being a daily driver. Now while the IS definitely nails the first two points it fails on the third. Plus being a Lexus its costly and overpriced. I.E. overrated. Seriously what are you guys trying to achieve. You say you want a daily but then you want to start putting turbo's on and doing engine swaps. At that point you have killed the whole idea of the daily. Dailies are not supposed to be fucked with. A little suspension to drop it a little and some wheels and call it a fucking day. Simple reliable, good gas mileage, presentable cars nothing more. Leave the turbo's and engine swaps to your project cars. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

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jamg Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2009 Location: GA Posts: 2,106 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	that's about what i want. having the luxuries and be able to sit 5 in the car having nice interior sit comfortable be boost, because boosting is fun and have average MPG, because of boost a nice drop, some wheels, and an already boosted car is good enough for me. maybe do some autocross with it, but that's about it.

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tsx1racer04 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 223 Posts: 258 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	IS300 is the way to go. Great daily driver however as mentioned above by Drift Freaq, it gets real shitty gas mileage (good luck pulling maybe 21mpg?). To answer your question, the 2jzge makes 210-215hp and 215lbs torque. But, SAE corrected is around 204hp (someone correct me if I'm wrong). From most forums, the stock internals can handle some good boosting before it blows, say around 450whp? I hear the stock autobox is actually stronger than the 5spd manual. Stronger in terms of handling power. My friend has a 1jzgte GS300, it's pretty decent for a daily driver. Twin turbo's are real fun. Anyways, the point is, if you want to drive fast get the STI. If you want an actual daily driver, get the IS300. Or get the one thats a better deal!!!

10-08-2009, 11:35 PM	#40
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 79 Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The 2JZGE is a very inefficient motor, and the vehicle's weight doesnt help it in any way. My SC which is low mileage and well maintained gets SHIT gas mileage, like absolutely no more than 21-22. The motor is a strong motor, very reliable.. but just inefficient in every way. Its kinda a pain to work on considering the intake manifold design, which is completely stupid. I cant understand how the engineers thought it was a good idea to fucking slap it on top and across the engine block. Changing spark plugs ends up being a fuckin multi-hour job. I've thought time and time again about what would be a good 4 door vehicle, RWD, that is pleasant to drive. The best solution is the G35 or G37 sedan, and preferably the most recent version which has bi-xenon projectors and nicer styling. I really do like that car, 3.7L with lots of power and class. Its expensive (for now) but in the near future, it would be a good car to own. OBD2 but it makes enough power that its worth keeping and not modding. Only basic things like exhaust and intake, wheels, suspension, etc... I'm keeping the SC and considering someday doing an 2JZ-GTE with it, as its a nice grand tourer. Its comfortable and spacious, fantastic AC, good seats, nice styling. Like Dave, we've both considered the IS but it just doesnt fit the bill. Funny thing about upgrading to turbo/6-speed status, is that its a near 10k investment. Thats a LOT of money, but its a LOT of car. In some ways, it would be more practical to purchase the Supra, unless you really are stuck on the IS, GS, or in my case, the SC. edit: I dont think I'de ever want to own a Supra Turbo though. Too much car and well, parking it in the garage would be an insult to my S13. My S13 will always reign supreme. Fuck a Supra, rather put that money towards a real car (Ariel Atom). Mike