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Breitling · 06-24-2012, 06:57 AM

I am running Kei Office coilovers, 60mm studs, and a 17mm spacer in the front of my s14. The wheels are 18x10+36 (effectively 18x10 +19). tires are 235/40 Federal 595's. I AM BUYING NEW COILOVERS SOON. I want to find one with better clearance than the Kei Office.

Here's what it looks like inside.... It's fine now, but i want to go lower.

Here are my questions:
1. Is there a coilover besides Megan (and their extended bracket) that offers better clearance than these Kei Office?

2. How big of slip on spacers can i run with 60 mm studs? (currently at 17mm spacer)

tengo240 · 06-24-2012, 07:27 AM

I dont think different coilovers are going to really give you that much more clearance .maybe the megans will. I have an18x10 +9 in the front with gold tein coilovers and I just run a small tire and the inner lip rides in between the coils of the spring . Why are you getting new coilovers ? Just for clearance issues?

Breitling · 06-24-2012, 07:58 AM

3 out of 4 coilovers are blown

shoguner · 06-24-2012, 11:23 AM

You could always run a skinnier wheel. 8 9.
Then you could find a lower offset.

As for the longer studs Ive seen 20 mm slip ons before on 60mm studs.

Breitling · 06-24-2012, 11:46 AM

Ever seen 25mm slip Ons with 60mm studs. Is that safe?

Breitling · 06-24-2012, 07:30 PM

Kill the spam!!! ^^^

Answer my questions please!!

Here are my questions:
1. Is there a coilover besides Megan (and their extended bracket) that offers better clearance than these Kei Office?

2. How big of slip on spacers can i run with 60 mm studs? (currently at 17mm spacer) Can i go 25mm?

Breitling · 06-25-2012, 09:30 AM

Kill the spam!!! ^^^ x2

Answer my questions please!!

Here are my questions:
1. Is there a coilover besides Megan (and their extended bracket) that offers better clearance than these Kei Office?

2. How big of slip on spacers can i run with 60 mm studs? (currently at 17mm spacer) Can i go 25mm?

*slider2828* · 06-25-2012, 09:58 AM

1. I think Power by Max (Part shop max) might have an extended base.... But I think that might be the only company... I would check their coilover review which I think you can find here on the sight.

2. Seriously, 25mm is pretty dangerous man.... get some real wheels with better offsets. I would get some ARP studs.... 25 ish pushing it though on a 60mm....

JFoxx · 06-25-2012, 10:16 AM

+1 for pbm coils, i do believe they have extended brackets....
+1 for better wheel offsets, im running an 18x12 +20 with a 335 rear tire, and an 18x10 +10 with a 265 front tire, and i have decent clearance

Breitling · 06-25-2012, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider2828

1. I think Power by Max (Part shop max) might have an extended base.... But I think that might be the only company... I would check their coilover review which I think you can find here on the sight.

2. Seriously, 25mm is pretty dangerous man.... get some real wheels with better offsets. I would get some ARP studs.... 25 ish pushing it though on a 60mm....

Thanks for the insight about PBM.

I do have real wheels (3piece and all). Is 25mm dangerous because of the lack of threads for the lug nuts to grab on to? Or is it dangerous because of the extra stress it would put on the geometry?

Breitling · 06-25-2012, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFoxx

+1 for pbm coils, i do believe they have extended brackets....
+1 for better wheel offsets, im running an 18x12 +20 with a 335 rear tire, and an 18x10 +10 with a 265 front tire, and i have decent clearance

I searched 6 different ways for PBM coilover reviews and all i got was an intercooler review and a review o ntheir arms. No coilover review.

Right now my 18x10 +19 clears in the front with my Kei Office.... but if i lower it more the springs will hit the tire. (see pic above).

what's this i hear about loosening the coilover-to-knuckle bolts and pulling the whole thing outwards while someone else tightens the bolts back up? Has anyone tried this? what were your experiences?

JFoxx · 06-25-2012, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breitling

what's this i hear about loosening the coilover-to-knuckle bolts and pulling the whole thing outwards while someone else tightens the bolts back up? Has anyone tried this? what were your experiences?

yes but in most cases this is for people who have slotted coilover bases or modified theirs to be slotted. it is usually used as an attempt for more camber....

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-25-2012, 03:30 PM

I posted up on the wheel fitment thread but I'm running 2 10mm spacers on mine. Can maybe add another 3mm tops but your lugs would barely be threaded into the studs. My mutekis are almost threaded all the way in minus 2-3 threads.

*slider2828* · 06-25-2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breitling

I searched 6 different ways for PBM coilover reviews and all i got was an intercooler review and a review o ntheir arms. No coilover review.

Right now my 18x10 +19 clears in the front with my Kei Office.... but if i lower it more the springs will hit the tire. (see pic above).

what's this i hear about loosening the coilover-to-knuckle bolts and pulling the whole thing outwards while someone else tightens the bolts back up? Has anyone tried this? what were your experiences?

Yeah, I would just call them up. They have a shop in CA, so they can give you some information....

Pulling it out.... I don't think any bolt with that amount of force exerted on the wheel can stay there for long.... Don't bother...

both problems.... For street rolling, 20mm spacers, is probably OK..... Do any tracking and would never go over 10-12 is the general consensus.... Just a lot of force on the stud especially without hubcentric lips on them (HR Spacers).

Also it will be close to short and you asking for it lol.... no having enough thread lol....

blusx · 06-25-2012, 04:11 PM

Same problem here compared my megans to some gsp's and there 3 1/2" bigger than mine, someone should have some extended collar mounts

Breitling · 06-25-2012, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blusx

Same problem here compared my megans to some gsp's and there 3 1/2" bigger than mine, someone should have some extended collar mounts

What do you mean by 3.5 inches bigger? in what aspect?

Also, for now... we know that MEgan and PBM make extended brackets. anyone else? anyone ever make/mod their own?

Lastly, my wheels are 3 piece and i can buy new inner barrels for the front. Shoudl i back it of .5 inch or a full inch?

Breitling · 06-25-2012, 06:56 PM

Just called PBM in Cali... talked to a guy named Nate. He said that they dont offer an extended bracket.

Anyone?

blusx · 06-25-2012, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breitling

What do you mean by 3.5 inches bigger? in what aspect?

Also, for now... we know that MEgan and PBM make extended brackets. anyone else? anyone ever make/mod their own?

Lastly, my wheels are 3 piece and i can buy new inner barrels for the front. Shoudl i back it of .5 inch or a full inch?

the bottom of the coilover the piece were it bolts up to the knuckles that piece is that much bigger than mine (were the 2 bolts go the flat pieces that go towards the cylinder that screws to the bottom of coil over)

blusx · 06-25-2012, 07:58 PM

check it

Breitling · 06-25-2012, 08:06 PM

are you saying that they went 3.5 inchs further this way?

*slider2828* · 06-25-2012, 10:24 PM

I don't know anyone who makes them other than megan at this point.... Sorry.....

shoguner · 06-26-2012, 07:29 AM

Seriously. I think you are going to need a skinnier wheel with a higher offset. do you REALLY need a 10in wide wheel on the front?! you are only running a 235/40 anyway. You said your wheels are 3 piece. get some new barrels to get a skinnier wheel and lower offset. Or you could put some s14 LCA on and effectively move your wheel out 15mm...

Breitling · 06-26-2012, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoguner

Or you could put some s14 LCA on and effectively move your wheel out 15mm...

Please explicate on this

*slider2828* · 06-26-2012, 02:50 PM

S14 LCA's are just a tad bit longer than S13 LCA's... is what he means..... All else I think the sway bar should fit and the tension rods must be extended a little more to fit the S14 LCA.

zooopreme · 06-26-2012, 03:16 PM

Find out what the ID is for the megan extended brackets & see if the coils you are getting have the same ID.

EDIT: nvm, found that they will not work for any other company. Disregard my post.

Breitling · 06-26-2012, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slider2828

S14 LCA's are just a tad bit longer than S13 LCA's... is what he means..... All else I think the sway bar should fit and the tension rods must be extended a little more to fit the S14 LCA.

my car is an s14....

fckillerbee · 06-26-2012, 07:05 PM

Buy PBMs cause they are sweet.

Get lips re-done. Go less of an offset with same wheel. running 10's. Go with something like a +10 offset. It will move the wheel away from the coilover.

Spacers do exactly what lower offset wheels do...they move the wheel farther away from the coil. You are trying to do too much, and it's really simple.

Breitling · 06-26-2012, 07:08 PM

Well, i am considering PBM, my goal is to be at or under 1K shipped for coilovers. Suggestions? I have heard good things about Fortune, PBM, and Stance.

zooopreme · 06-26-2012, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breitling

Well, i am considering PBM, my goal is to be at or under 1K shipped for coilovers. Suggestions? I have heard good things about Fortune, PBM, and Stance.

Under 1K for coils + extended brackets? Megans.

Fortune, PBM, Stance > 1,000 budget.

Breitling · 06-26-2012, 07:20 PM

What about BC and Ksport? yay or nay?

06-24-2012, 06:57 AM	#1
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	60mm Extended Studs, Spacer & Coilover question I am running Kei Office coilovers, 60mm studs, and a 17mm spacer in the front of my s14. The wheels are 18x10+36 (effectively 18x10 +19). tires are 235/40 Federal 595's. I AM BUYING NEW COILOVERS SOON. I want to find one with better clearance than the Kei Office. Here's what it looks like inside.... It's fine now, but i want to go lower. Here are my questions: 1. Is there a coilover besides Megan (and their extended bracket) that offers better clearance than these Kei Office? 2. How big of slip on spacers can i run with 60 mm studs? (currently at 17mm spacer) __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer

06-24-2012, 07:58 AM	#3
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	3 out of 4 coilovers are blown __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer

06-24-2012, 11:46 AM	#5
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Ever seen 25mm slip Ons with 60mm studs. Is that safe? __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer Last edited by Breitling; 06-24-2012 at 08:03 PM..

06-24-2012, 07:30 PM	#6
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Kill the spam!!! ^^^ Answer my questions please!! Here are my questions: 1. Is there a coilover besides Megan (and their extended bracket) that offers better clearance than these Kei Office? 2. How big of slip on spacers can i run with 60 mm studs? (currently at 17mm spacer) Can i go 25mm? __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer

06-25-2012, 09:30 AM	#7
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Kill the spam!!! ^^^ x2 Answer my questions please!! Here are my questions: 1. Is there a coilover besides Megan (and their extended bracket) that offers better clearance than these Kei Office? 2. How big of slip on spacers can i run with 60 mm studs? (currently at 17mm spacer) Can i go 25mm? __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer

06-24-2012, 07:27 AM	#2
tengo240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lancaster ,pa Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I dont think different coilovers are going to really give you that much more clearance .maybe the megans will. I have an18x10 +9 in the front with gold tein coilovers and I just run a small tire and the inner lip rides in between the coils of the spring . Why are you getting new coilovers ? Just for clearance issues?

06-24-2012, 11:23 AM	#4
shoguner Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Utah Age: 29 Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	You could always run a skinnier wheel. 8 9. Then you could find a lower offset. As for the longer studs Ive seen 20 mm slip ons before on 60mm studs.

06-25-2012, 09:58 AM	#8
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	1. I think Power by Max (Part shop max) might have an extended base.... But I think that might be the only company... I would check their coilover review which I think you can find here on the sight. 2. Seriously, 25mm is pretty dangerous man.... get some real wheels with better offsets. I would get some ARP studs.... 25 ish pushing it though on a 60mm.... __________________ Turn and Burn!

06-25-2012, 10:16 AM	#9
JFoxx BANNED Join Date: May 2008 Location: SD & OC Posts: 722 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	+1 for pbm coils, i do believe they have extended brackets.... +1 for better wheel offsets, im running an 18x12 +20 with a 335 rear tire, and an 18x10 +10 with a 265 front tire, and i have decent clearance

06-25-2012, 03:30 PM	#13
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I posted up on the wheel fitment thread but I'm running 2 10mm spacers on mine. Can maybe add another 3mm tops but your lugs would barely be threaded into the studs. My mutekis are almost threaded all the way in minus 2-3 threads. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

06-25-2012, 04:11 PM	#15
blusx Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: elpaso,tx Age: 38 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Same problem here compared my megans to some gsp's and there 3 1/2" bigger than mine, someone should have some extended collar mounts

06-25-2012, 06:56 PM	#17
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Just called PBM in Cali... talked to a guy named Nate. He said that they dont offer an extended bracket. Anyone? __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer

06-25-2012, 07:58 PM	#19
blusx Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: elpaso,tx Age: 38 Posts: 31 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	check it

06-25-2012, 08:06 PM	#20
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	are you saying that they went 3.5 inchs further this way? __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer

06-25-2012, 10:24 PM	#21
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I don't know anyone who makes them other than megan at this point.... Sorry..... __________________ Turn and Burn!

06-26-2012, 07:29 AM	#22
shoguner Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Utah Age: 29 Posts: 389 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Seriously. I think you are going to need a skinnier wheel with a higher offset. do you REALLY need a 10in wide wheel on the front?! you are only running a 235/40 anyway. You said your wheels are 3 piece. get some new barrels to get a skinnier wheel and lower offset. Or you could put some s14 LCA on and effectively move your wheel out 15mm...

06-26-2012, 02:50 PM	#24
slider2828 Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,824 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	S14 LCA's are just a tad bit longer than S13 LCA's... is what he means..... All else I think the sway bar should fit and the tension rods must be extended a little more to fit the S14 LCA. __________________ Turn and Burn!

06-26-2012, 03:16 PM	#25
zooopreme Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,772 Trader Rating: (38) Feedback Score: 38 reviews	Find out what the ID is for the megan extended brackets & see if the coils you are getting have the same ID. EDIT: nvm, found that they will not work for any other company. Disregard my post. __________________ For Sale #1 \| For Sale #2

06-26-2012, 07:05 PM	#27
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Buy PBMs cause they are sweet. Get lips re-done. Go less of an offset with same wheel. running 10's. Go with something like a +10 offset. It will move the wheel away from the coilover. Spacers do exactly what lower offset wheels do...they move the wheel farther away from the coil. You are trying to do too much, and it's really simple.

06-26-2012, 07:08 PM	#28
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Well, i am considering PBM, my goal is to be at or under 1K shipped for coilovers. Suggestions? I have heard good things about Fortune, PBM, and Stance. __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer

06-26-2012, 07:20 PM	#30
Breitling Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cols Age: 38 Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	What about BC and Ksport? yay or nay? __________________ Ls460, 240sx, Super Avenger, Chronofighter, Navitimer

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