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Old 04-20-2007, 02:46 PM   #1
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Guitar Suggestions

Well Im finally gonna crack down and learn to play. For those that play out there would you suggest acoustic or electric for a beginner? Also what books,videos, or or DVD's are best for learning?

Im thinking about a Squier Fat Stratocaster.
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Well Im finally gonna crack down and learn to play. For those that play out there would you suggest acoustic or electric for a beginner? Also what books,videos, or or DVD's are best for learning?

Im thinking about a Squier Fat Stratocaster.

I played for a short time and I found that it was easier to play with an acoustic to learn. Just because it was easier to hold on to. I suppose since you have never played it wouldn't matter.

Instead of videos/books I would try and find someone that knows how to play and can show you the ropes or pay for a few lessons. Half the battle is learning the fretes and finger contorsion. Then once you can grasp reading taps you can teach yourself with some practice and a lot of patience.
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^^^ i would disagree, id say electric is hella easier to start on. easier to get a good sound out of it and the strings are a lot easier to deal with as well. i had a 50 dollar ebay guitar and i have like a 400 dollar one too with good pickups and all that. sounds more or less the same (when i am playing haha) so just get whatever cheapest thing you can find to start with.

get a good amp though! huge difference between nice amp and crap amp in terms of beginner sound quality
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What kinda shit do you wanna play?


I love Fender basses...but for a beginner guitar, get a Epiphone Les Paul 100.

Get a small combo amp...then when you wanna be ballin, upgrade.
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get a good amp though! huge difference between nice amp and crap amp in terms of beginner sound quality
10000% agree. Everything will sound like dog crap if you don't have a descent amp. Your best bet is go to a music store and hold and feel how each sit in your lap or how comfortable it is for you. Everyone has their own personal preferences.
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What kinda shit do you wanna play?
You wanna play rock, metal, r&b, easy listening?

I'm an r&b guy, so I have a Yamaha acoustic.
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Epiphone Les Paul is a great beginner guitar that can really do anything.

I can play punk, hardcore, emo, noise rock, metal, whatever with it.

But I only play hardcore...hah. I suck at guitar, which is why I stick to bass.
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+1 with the electric. I've been playing for 20 years now and i started on electric. Eventually I got a few acoustics, which will help you become more accurate and help strengthen your fingers naturally.

But if you want to rock out then dont waste time with an acoustic for your first rig. spend like $200 on your guitar and it will last you a good time and you will be happy for awhile. ESP, Fender, BC Rich, Ibanez, Gibson, hell even Gretsch makes an intro guitar now and the list goes on and on. www.musiciansfriend.com Go there, check out their clearance section, get a decent guitar with a nic in it for half the price.

But i really agree, get a decent amp... I just bought my dad a little Line 6 Spyder 3 for like $200, he hasnt played electric since he was 20 somthing. Crate makes a modeling amp for cheap too... get at least 30watt... you'll want it.
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I'm starting guitar.

....I'm gonna get a flying V.

If you're gonna suck , at least look cool.
my first guitar was a clear acrylic flying v. it was a million pounds and the bridge ripped out so i had to bolt it on with home depot bolts.

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just get the guitar that comes with guitar hero!

just get a cheap ibanez and a decent amp
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:53 PM   #12
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What kinda shit do you wanna play?
Good question. I love all kinds of music and music styles so I might do a little of everything. For right now rock is what Im going for. Thanks for the suggestions. Im gonna write them down and see how they feel at the store. I should be able to find something nice for around 200.
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if your gonna start playing do not buy a cheap guitar, youll regret it when you get better, buy a either a fender fat strat or a jackson,something with good pick-ups and a decent maple wood or rosewood neck. as far as amps get a fender or marshall amp something around 20-50 amps and a good distorion pedal. my set up is a custom made charvel w/ semore duncan pick-ups a 50 watt fender automatic amp and a metal zone pedal.but good luck and have fun!
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Get a Fender, or a Gibson. Fenders are less expensive and hold their value. I have had my Fender American P-Bass now for a long time and have never had any problems. Fender guitars are great too. Definately don't go cheap on an amp , I did and regreted it everyday until I got my Ampeg. A good amp can make or break your sound completely.
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I started out w/ a peavy fury, but am currently playing a Musicman stingray:


^^ This actually is my cat.

I also have a cheaper electric acoustic bass.
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I'm a hip hopper, I'm working in this corner:

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I'm a hip hopper, I'm working in this corner
Real Hip hoppers play instruments too. Just look at the roots. Ive always wanted to play and kept putting it off.
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Real Hip hoppers play instruments too. Just look at the roots. Ive always wanted to play and kept putting it off.
I grew up playing drums, played since I was 10, but as a one-man army for what I am doing, it is easiest to work from my computer.
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hands down squire or fender stratocaster my first guitar



light and easy to play the fretboard is nice and sleek

you have your choice either of maple or redwood

thats what i learned to play with..

you can also buy a squire acoustic for $100 just bought one for my dad

after that i stepped up to a ibanez hallowbody from my squire but my friend dropped it and broke it in half



so now i have a epiphone les paul custom



and i <3 it
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i got this for like 400 off ebay

emg 81/85s, set neck, locking tuners, nice body contours, pretty light (like omg have you picked up a les paul? wtf) and totally awesome looking finish

i like schecter, good bang for your buck IMO. and looks cool. gibsons and stuff seem like you pay a lot for the name

i guess its mostly personal preference though, but i would check out the schecter c1 series



thats like the normal c1, duncan design pickups and a bolt on neck and obviously the visual details arent as nice, but still got a nice fretboard and stuff, *pretty* good pickups, nice shape blah blah.

they are good for metal/rock type shit.

oh and my amp is a line6. its pretty cool has hella effects built in and it gets mad loud.
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active pickups are fun

paired with line 6 you get that "zomg is that blood brothers song?" sound

line 6 has really good tone but it won't beat sound of a tube amp IMO
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Epiphone Les Paul is a great beginner guitar that can really do anything.

I can play punk, hardcore, emo, noise rock, metal, whatever with it.

But I only play hardcore...hah. I suck at guitar, which is why I stick to bass.
Les paul's are like $1300 atleast, i dont think a beginner wants to spend quite that much on a guitar, check out ibanez they've got a wide range of guitars for any budget, its a great first choice. but I agree with what was said before, you can have a $3000 guitar but shit amp = shit sound. Line 6 is garbage in my opinion, ive been through 2 of them. cool effects, thats about it. Go with Marshall or Engl if you can afford it.



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one man army is cooler when you can play drums, guitar & vocals, and lay the tracks together, not use some synthesizer to make your sound, wheres the soul in that?
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I grew up playing drums, played since I was 10, but as a one-man army for what I am doing, it is easiest to work from my computer.
Wanna join my band? The Zilvians.

Thanks for all the suggestions, Im going down to guitar center this weekend.
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My first guitar was a Fender Strat.

The Squires come with shitty pickups, but if you can find used Fender pickups (including humbuckers) on ebay really cheap. I wouldn't think twice about getting a Strat for a first guitar... its a really simple design and can be played for most types of music.

My friend built his own guitar just using wood from Home Depot, and an abalone (sp?) shell he had lying around for the Fret marks. The materials weren't top notch, but it came out awesome... He ended painting the body with House of Kolor Chromaflare... anyway my point is, electronics are key. He ended up buying used pickups from a Les Paul, did his own wiring, and used the rest of the knobs, plugs etc from his old Squire Strat. Sounds sick


Also, if you have decent computer speakers and don't have a few bills to buy an amp, you should REALLY consider getting a Behringer V-Amp 2.


I'm currently using that with my Logitech 5.1 speakers because I don't have space for my amp. It has all sorts of effects that can replace a lot of pedals... I highly recommend it.. especially at only around $100 on ebay.
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Thanks for all the suggestions, Im going down to guitar center this weekend.
Can't, I'm 350 miles away and one of my 2 trips to Atl this year was last weekend, the next is in 2 weeks.

Cool trick:
When you go into the guitar center, look to deal with the manager/supervisor over the dept you're purchasing in, ask for a price on an item, even if you know the price, then tell them you'd rather order online, saving tax and explaining that shipping is free anyway.
I got my M-Audio Axiom49 and StudipPro 3 Monitors like that, price was already better than anywhere else except Ebay, and that was not a chance I was willing to take on such items.
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Can't, I'm 350 miles away and one of my 2 trips to Atl this year was last weekend, the next is in 2 weeks.

Cool trick:
When you go into the guitar center, look to deal with the manager/supervisor over the dept you're purchasing in, ask for a price on an item, even if you know the price, then tell them you'd rather order online, saving tax and explaining that shipping is free anyway.
I got my M-Audio Axiom49 and StudipPro 3 Monitors like that, price was already better than anywhere else except Ebay, and that was not a chance I was willing to take on such items.
You speak the total truth on this. I got my Musicman bass for lower than any other place when I dealt with the supervisor. Another time my friend got an Orange half stack( amazing sounding!!!) for 1500.00 out the door.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:36 PM   #29
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Cool trick:
When you go into the guitar center, look to deal with the manager/supervisor over the dept you're purchasing in, ask for a price on an item, even if you know the price, then tell them you'd rather order online, saving tax and explaining that shipping is free anyway.
I got my M-Audio Axiom49 and StudipPro 3 Monitors like that, price was already better than anywhere else except Ebay, and that was not a chance I was willing to take on such items.


I dont' want to offend you....

But I usually just say "can you play with the price?"


I got my Fender bass for $435 out the door that way....which is a DAMN GOOD DEAL.



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Old 04-22-2007, 08:44 PM   #30
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Buy my brother's Dimebag Darrell Signature Washburn. It's the green and yellow one, not the more common blue lightning one.

I can ask him which pedals and gear are the best for beginners, too. He probably has over 50-some pedals and different amps and little recording studio stuff.
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