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calebbo · 05-11-2017, 07:46 AM

Hey guys

I have a 91 240SX Hatch with Stance GR+ Pro coil overs
17x9.75 +25 XXR 527's
Z32 Brakes
Rebuilt KA

I'm having issues with the coil overs. I had the coil overs for a little under 2 years. Stance set the pre-load to 0 and mailed them to me. I used a tape measure and ensured that the front two coil over springs were identical in height. I did the same for the rear. Next I maxed out the dampening to 16 clicks then backed off 8 clicks. So I should be at "0" setting right in the middle of the two extremes. When driving I feel like the car bounces a bit too much. Do I need to increase the dampening or decrease it?

What setting do you guys use for those who have Stance coil overs?

tuzzio · 05-11-2017, 08:02 AM

Play with dampening. See what you like.

calebbo · 05-11-2017, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuzzio

Play with dampening. See what you like.

I'm asking if it bounces too much I should make it stiffer by increasing the dampening right?

A DOG 406 · 05-11-2017, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calebbo

I'm asking if it bounces too much I should make it stiffer by increasing the dampening right?

Not always the case. Sometimes it's better to soften them so they soak up bumps easier with less rebound. Go a few clicks in both ways and see how different it feels.

calebbo · 05-11-2017, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A DOG 406

Not always the case. Sometimes it's better to soften them so they soak up bumps easier with less rebound. Go a few clicks in both ways and see how different it feels.

I appreciate it, I will try 2 clicks back front and rear (6 clicks from full soft).

*e1_griego* · 05-11-2017, 08:55 AM

Try full soft. Adjust up from there.

djdryon · 05-11-2017, 12:40 PM

You want a softer compression and a firmer rebound. That will let the suspension absorb the bumps, then quickly reset to absorb the next one.

Don't use a firm compression on the road. I had a slammed Accord with stiff Eibach springs back in high school, and sometimes I'd pogo-stick down the highway if the road was too worn out by the metal joint strips... not fun

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calebbo · 05-11-2017, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djdryon

You want a softer compression and a firmer rebound. That will let the suspension absorb the bumps, then quickly reset to absorb the next one.

Don't use a firm compression on the road. I had a slammed Accord with stiff Eibach springs back in high school, and sometimes I'd pogo-stick down the highway if the road was too worn out by the metal joint strips... not fun

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I can only adjust rebound on my coil overs. So I need to increase or decrease it?

calebbo · 05-11-2017, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e1_griego

Try full soft. Adjust up from there.

I am currently at 6 out of 16 clicks from full soft. I will go full soft if I don't like 6/16 clicks.

djdryon · 05-11-2017, 03:11 PM

If your spring compression rate is bouncy, you can soften the amount of bounce by softening the rebound. You'll still feel like you're driving a pogo stick sometimes, but at least it'll be one bounce instead of 3 or 4... make sure you have some strong suspension parts, cause if it's too stiff, you might bend or break something.

The roads here in Seattle are too bad to go stiff. I tore the strut tower off my Accord after 2 1/2 years of the low life and 4 wheel drifting, so now I stick with dual-rate springs, like Tein S-Tech.

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calebbo · 05-11-2017, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djdryon

If your spring compression rate is bouncy, you can soften the amount of bounce by softening the rebound. You'll still feel like you're driving a pogo stick sometimes, but at least it'll be one bounce instead of 3 or 4... make sure you have some strong suspension parts, cause if it's too stiff, you might bend or break something.

The roads here in Seattle are too bad to go stiff. I tore the strut tower off my Accord after 2 1/2 years of the low life and 4 wheel drifting, so now I stick with dual-rate springs, like Tein S-Tech.

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I have stance coils
ISR front tension rods
ISR rear traction rods
ISR rear toe rods
ISR rear upper camber/control arms

calebbo · 06-05-2017, 01:13 AM

Update:

Stance did not set the pre-load on the coil overs. Steven at Stance told me their tech did set the pre-load but called me later and said they did not actually do it. He said it was a miscommunication on their end. I ended up setting the preload by hand tightening the drivers side by hand (front and rear coil over) until the locking collar stopped.Then, I tightened using coil over spanner wrenches one full turn.

I measured the lenth of the spring and matched the drivers side coil overs.

I set the dampening to full counter clockwise, true zero, -6 clicks from "zero - dead center"

She rides amazing now. She feels a little bit stiffer than lowering springs so it's great for daily driving. I also raised her up a bit. From the top of the tire to the fender lip it's two of my fingers vertically.

05-11-2017, 07:46 AM	#1
calebbo Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2012 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 113 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	HELP Stance GR+ Pro Coilover Hey guys I have a 91 240SX Hatch with Stance GR+ Pro coil overs 17x9.75 +25 XXR 527's Z32 Brakes Rebuilt KA I'm having issues with the coil overs. I had the coil overs for a little under 2 years. Stance set the pre-load to 0 and mailed them to me. I used a tape measure and ensured that the front two coil over springs were identical in height. I did the same for the rear. Next I maxed out the dampening to 16 clicks then backed off 8 clicks. So I should be at "0" setting right in the middle of the two extremes. When driving I feel like the car bounces a bit too much. Do I need to increase the dampening or decrease it? What setting do you guys use for those who have Stance coil overs? __________________ 1991 S13 w/ rebuilt KA and Trans

05-11-2017, 12:40 PM	#7
djdryon Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seattle, WA / Saitama, JP Age: 35 Posts: 112 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You want a softer compression and a firmer rebound. That will let the suspension absorb the bumps, then quickly reset to absorb the next one. Don't use a firm compression on the road. I had a slammed Accord with stiff Eibach springs back in high school, and sometimes I'd pogo-stick down the highway if the road was too worn out by the metal joint strips... not fun Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk __________________ Contributions: ULTIMATE climate HVAC LED conversion.

05-11-2017, 03:11 PM	#10
djdryon Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seattle, WA / Saitama, JP Age: 35 Posts: 112 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If your spring compression rate is bouncy, you can soften the amount of bounce by softening the rebound. You'll still feel like you're driving a pogo stick sometimes, but at least it'll be one bounce instead of 3 or 4... make sure you have some strong suspension parts, cause if it's too stiff, you might bend or break something. The roads here in Seattle are too bad to go stiff. I tore the strut tower off my Accord after 2 1/2 years of the low life and 4 wheel drifting, so now I stick with dual-rate springs, like Tein S-Tech. Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk __________________ Contributions: ULTIMATE climate HVAC LED conversion.

06-05-2017, 01:13 AM	#12
calebbo Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2012 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 113 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Update: Stance did not set the pre-load on the coil overs. Steven at Stance told me their tech did set the pre-load but called me later and said they did not actually do it. He said it was a miscommunication on their end. I ended up setting the preload by hand tightening the drivers side by hand (front and rear coil over) until the locking collar stopped.Then, I tightened using coil over spanner wrenches one full turn. I measured the lenth of the spring and matched the drivers side coil overs. I set the dampening to full counter clockwise, true zero, -6 clicks from "zero - dead center" She rides amazing now. She feels a little bit stiffer than lowering springs so it's great for daily driving. I also raised her up a bit. From the top of the tire to the fender lip it's two of my fingers vertically. __________________ 1991 S13 w/ rebuilt KA and Trans

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05-11-2017, 08:02 AM	#2
tuzzio Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,254 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Play with dampening. See what you like.

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e1_griego Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Independence, Ore. Age: 36 Posts: 2,642 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	Try full soft. Adjust up from there.