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240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 02:38 PM

Ok so I went to a shop to have my sr put in my s13. They told me the sr I brought them had problems so they purchased me a new long block and transferred eeverything over. so after I drove it around for a month I decided to see what it could drift wise. I went out and did some donuts and had a some fun for an hour or so. On the way home afterards, I heard a knocking noise. I went to a shop and they said its a rod knock.. is it possiable for a rod knock to occhur on a new long block that quick ??

OutlawLui · 03-26-2012, 03:20 PM

FUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk that sucks, yea its possible, these engines are old

ricardo_dws · 03-26-2012, 03:25 PM

^^^ agreed ^^^
that sucks for you guy
and yes almost anything is possible
specially when your overreving (or close to) the crap out of your engine....

Drifting-pedobear · 03-26-2012, 03:26 PM

you fucked up.
donuts in a SR = rod knock

CleanAndLegit · 03-26-2012, 03:29 PM

you need better oil pan to drift

slydin240sx · 03-26-2012, 03:31 PM

Well that's a shitty situation.

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CleanAndLegit

you need better oil pan to drift

Are you being serious or just making fun ?

And I don't understand .. I did it ONE night honestly. And it rod knocked. I'm debating about getting a new sr but if I do , how do I stop this from happening again? I was looking at bee-r rev limtor ..

Chrischeezer · 03-26-2012, 03:33 PM

sounds shady..
i bet it was a rebuild or something like that...

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by slydin240sx

Well that's a shitty situation.

Yeah .. really sucks when its the first night of donuts. I was hoping to goto summit and drift in a legit place but now I'm sketching on ever trying it again. This sucks.

slydin240sx · 03-26-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 240sxbaltimoremd

Are you being serious or just making fun ?

And I don't understand .. I did it ONE night honestly. And it rod knocked. I'm debating about getting a new sr but if I do , how do I stop this from happening again? I was looking at bee-r rev limtor ..

A rev limiter is not gonna prevent a rod knock from happening.

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by slydin240sx

A rev limiter is not gonna prevent a rod knock from happening.

Well can someone please tell me how this happened? I know your not suppose to redline sr but I did it ONE night. I've also read sr can take a beating and still not knock. I'm very confused on how this happenand how to prevent it from happening again.

Mrpopo · 03-26-2012, 03:51 PM

The guy at Nissan who was responsible for rod #3 on sr20s was drunk at work. Lol

Drifting-pedobear · 03-26-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 240sxbaltimoremd

Well can someone please tell me how this happened? I know your not suppose to redline sr but I did it ONE night. I've also read sr can take a beating and still not knock. I'm very confused on how this happenand how to prevent it from happening again.

because you did donuts.

you starved the motor, and it got knock.

happens all the time at the drift schools up here, people do donuts, they get knock.

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Drifting-pedobear

because you did donuts.

you starved the motor, and it got knock.

happens all the time at the drift schools up here, people do donuts, they get knock.

Soo donuts really cause rod knocks?? That's seriously redic. I feel like drifting is just as hard on your engine as doing a couple donuts in a parking lot.

I should check the drift entrance thread again to make sure I am doing it right . Hml hml.

shiftdrift · 03-26-2012, 04:05 PM

Ok this is really simple. When sliding around in a donut you're pushing the oil to one side of the pan. This makes the oil pump not very effective if it can't pick up oil at all times. An aftermarket pan/pick up tube fixes this. They hold more oil so sloshing around will mean less. You can pull the pan and check the rod bearings. Or rebuild your old block unless you gave it away.

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiftdrift

Ok this is really simple. When sliding around in a donut you're pushing the oil to one side of the pan. This makes the oil pump not very effective if it can't pick up oil at all times. An aftermarket pan/pick up tube fixes this. They hold more oil so sloshing around will mean less. You can pull the pan and check the rod bearings. Or rebuild your old block unless you gave it away.

I still have it. And oooh ok. So its not just redlining a sr that makes them rod knock.. good to know.

ryandriftingfat · 03-26-2012, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 240sxbaltimoremd

Well can someone please tell me how this happened? I know your not suppose to redline sr but I did it ONE night. I've also read sr can take a beating and still not knock. I'm very confused on how this happenand how to prevent it from happening again.

Sure.

Take a cup of water, hold it flat and go for a drive. Now turn. All that water in your lap now?

Oil climbed up the side of your windage tray, away from the oil pickup which starved the motor of oil. If you were doing sustained donuts then that oil may have moved away from the pickup for an extended amount of time.

BOOM. Literally.

Did you have the correct amount of oil? Did your oil pan have any dents?

KendallH · 03-26-2012, 04:29 PM

Were you in 1st gear the whole time?

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryandevilhorns

Sure.

Take a cup of water, hold it flat and go for a drive. Now turn. All that water in your lap now?

Oil climbed up the side of your windage tray, away from the oil pickup which starved the motor of oil. If you were doing sustained donuts then that oil may have moved away from the pickup for an extended amount of time.

BOOM. Literally.

Did you have the correct amount of oil? Did your oil pan have any dents?

Oil was good and no dents. I feel like drifting all day on a course would have the same effect .. also, I was only doing it for an hour tops. And it was off and on too. This other guy was with me who had a rb25 was going way harder than me the same night and his engine is fine.

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KendallH

Were you in 1st gear the whole time?

Noo second mostly . Never first.

4-20sx · 03-26-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Drifting-pedobear

because you did donuts.

you starved the motor, and it got knock.

happens all the time at the drift schools up here, people do donuts, they get knock.

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiftdrift

Ok this is really simple. When sliding around in a donut you're pushing the oil to one side of the pan. This makes the oil pump not very effective if it can't pick up oil at all times. An aftermarket pan/pick up tube fixes this. They hold more oil so sloshing around will mean less. You can pull the pan and check the rod bearings. Or rebuild your old block unless you gave it away.

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryandevilhorns

Sure.

Take a cup of water, hold it flat and go for a drive. Now turn. All that water in your lap now?

Oil climbed up the side of your windage tray, away from the oil pickup which starved the motor of oil. If you were doing sustained donuts then that oil may have moved away from the pickup for an extended amount of time.

BOOM. Literally.

Did you have the correct amount of oil? Did your oil pan have any dents?

+1

rod knock is usually from oil starvation. you fuked urself over lolz

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 04:48 PM

Ok thank you got the info

Corey121 · 03-26-2012, 06:33 PM

how old is the orginal poster?

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey121

how old is the orginal poster?

Poster? Huh?

slydin240sx · 03-26-2012, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240sxbaltimoremd

Poster? Huh?

You are the Original Poster, so he's asking how old you are!!!

240sxbaltimoremd · 03-26-2012, 06:48 PM

Ooh I'm 21.

03-26-2012, 02:38 PM	#1
240sxbaltimoremd Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: baltimore, md Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sr rod knock after 1 night of drift Ok so I went to a shop to have my sr put in my s13. They told me the sr I brought them had problems so they purchased me a new long block and transferred eeverything over. so after I drove it around for a month I decided to see what it could drift wise. I went out and did some donuts and had a some fun for an hour or so. On the way home afterards, I heard a knocking noise. I went to a shop and they said its a rod knock.. is it possiable for a rod knock to occhur on a new long block that quick ??

03-26-2012, 03:20 PM	#2
OutlawLui Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Anaheim CA Age: 35 Posts: 1,491 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	FUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk that sucks, yea its possible, these engines are old __________________ .

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Drifting-pedobear Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: seattle, wa Age: 30 Posts: 937 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	you fucked up. donuts in a SR = rod knock __________________ RIGHTWHEELDRIVE.com

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CleanAndLegit Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 3,693 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	you need better oil pan to drift __________________

03-26-2012, 03:33 PM	#8
Chrischeezer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: earth Age: 37 Posts: 1,406 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	sounds shady.. i bet it was a rebuild or something like that... __________________

03-26-2012, 03:25 PM	#3
ricardo_dws Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chi Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	^^^ agreed ^^^ that sucks for you guy and yes almost anything is possible specially when your overreving (or close to) the crap out of your engine....

03-26-2012, 03:31 PM	#6
slydin240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 919 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Well that's a shitty situation.

03-26-2012, 03:51 PM	#12
Mrpopo Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Gwinnett, GA Age: 41 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	The guy at Nissan who was responsible for rod #3 on sr20s was drunk at work. Lol

03-26-2012, 04:05 PM	#15
shiftdrift Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: indiana Age: 31 Posts: 2,242 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	Ok this is really simple. When sliding around in a donut you're pushing the oil to one side of the pan. This makes the oil pump not very effective if it can't pick up oil at all times. An aftermarket pan/pick up tube fixes this. They hold more oil so sloshing around will mean less. You can pull the pan and check the rod bearings. Or rebuild your old block unless you gave it away. __________________ SW Fab

03-26-2012, 04:29 PM	#18
KendallH Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Clearwater, FL Level: Master Troll Age: 29 Posts: 871 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Were you in 1st gear the whole time?

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240sxbaltimoremd Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: baltimore, md Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok thank you got the info

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Corey121 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: North Carolina Age: 34 Posts: 82 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how old is the orginal poster? __________________

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240sxbaltimoremd Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: baltimore, md Posts: 89 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ooh I'm 21.

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