xagna

I'm thinking about putting a power brace for front subframe. I have SPL t/c rod there which has been great. Hope things would get better.
Now, I see Nismo power brace is basically the stock tension rod brocket which Kazama and Nukabe makes adjoustable power brace (http://www.napsusa.com/cgi-bin/napsu...l?id=2SYc88RD).

My question is will adjoustable one provide as much rigidity as Nismo one or even more? Which would you recommand?

Dousan_PG

the kazama one isnt it just a bar that connects the tc rod bolts
i had the cusco one i think its the same
its junk

get the nismo.
dont waste your money on anything else

or dont waste it at all, weld up your own. its not rocketscience.

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drifter808

i welded my own and was all free. noticed a difference to.

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brainfood

I put mine on 2 days ago and didnt notice a difference
The only reason I got it was because my stock brackets were a little bent up from off track excursions. The only thing that might be better the car might be a little more stable under braking but no real difference. But I havnt driven super hard yet.

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xagna

Dousan,
Thanks a lot for your advice.
I know welding on my own is not nuclear physics. Just don't have an access to any welding equipments.

xagna

Drifter and Brian,
Have you both driven your cars to the edge of the envelope of the tire grip?
If you both reply, this would help a lot of people who have power brace in their minds a lot.

KA24DESOneThree

I went to the track without a Nismo power brace.

I went to the track with a Nismo power brace.

The power brace helped turn-in. It's that simple.

It's a very worthwhile mod, as is anything that stiffens the chassis. The Kazama/Cusco/Tanabe pieces don't box the brackets or put gussets between the cross bar and the brackets, both of which are necessary in my opinion. Sure, the competitors are cheap... but they're also flexy.

If you can make it, make it EXACTLY like Nismo does (or better). Don't skimp.

vutony

nismo all the way

!Zar!

Why don't you just use both?

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andrewmp6

projectnissan has one too but the nismo looks better built

Bryants95240sx

Yep Nismo is awsome. I feel a night and day diffrenece with it on. Sure the other ones are a 1/4 of the price. But like they said the other ones dont box in the tension rod brackets so.Well worth every penny.

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Dousan_PG

iirc from where the nismo one is (bar across) the other wont fit.

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1Via!

Nismo PB helped high speed turn in, stability along with braking noticably for me and my floppy s13.


Building your own is simple with basic welding skillz. Box the TC rob brackets, and a bar between the brackets.

The other braces all look kind of flimsy to me. Who gives a fuck if some are adjustable. If I wanted something like that I would go with a Yashio pillow tension brace, which you can used with the nismo pb, same principal, better mounting locations.

xagna

Thanks for your opinions, guys.
I have one more question though. I already have Tein t/c rod installed and will I notice more improvements with this PB or not?

KA24DESOneThree

Tein tension rods don't increase stiffness between their own mounting points.

No matter what tension rods you're running you will notice the improvement.

xagna

Good, if you are talking about the improvement in steering response! I was worried because this tein t/c rod gave me so much more teering sharpness.

andrewmp6

see the brace stops the tension rod brackets from moving a lil or flexing under hard cornering its well worth the money

!Zar!

I thought so for the longest also untill I had seen it done on FRpilots car.

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Jeff240sx

Use the '97-98 stock brackets if you're making your own. Those years aren't swiss-cheese style like early s14s. Then box it up, add a bar. If you can't weld, take it to any shop and tell them to do it, probably cost you $100-150 in welding.
-Jeff

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Bryants95240sx

Yeah i believe you can get the nismo for 147. So if you cant weld mine as well get the nismo.

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SochBAT

DIY welding = 50-60bucks for materials.
Nismo PB = 150ish

Chris made his own (Flybert) and it was damn impressive. 15bucks works a hell alot of magic. And i bet he notices a difference on the track. DO IT!

FaLKoN240

FRpilot has the Nismo Brace, and the Cusco Tension rod brace as well. I've seen it in person.

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mmtmatrix

any one have pictures of ones that they have welded them selves??

mmtmatrix

xagna

From 240sx.org.

Flybert

Heck yes.

I noticed a big difference when I first fabbed this one up with my dad. We put a flange on the end of the pipe to distribute the force on the tension bracket. We then boxed the bracket to give it more strength like the nismo bracket. We also used a fat pipe to increase stiffness. So far this thing has worked for 2 years and sees tons of track duty. If you could have one made like this I would highly recomend it. Turn in response is where you feel the results.

1Via!

What advantage does this provide over just the power brace? Is there much of a noticable difference? Like I mentioned earlier, instead of going this route, the yashio factory tc rod braces seem like a more complimentary addition in comparison to another brace between the tc brackets.

Jonnie Fraz

I built mine like the Nismo was'nt hard and I built a jig so I can do it again. Another thing I noticed about the Nismo style, if you take a curb head on it acts like a skid plate. Don't ask how I know this. Also if you are pulling the oil pan it makes it way harder.
I noticed allot better turn in with the brace, front end did not feel as slushie if you get my drift.

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sncs14

get the nismo PB. it really isn't that expensive and it does improve the turn in. i've got it now, and would get it again.

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m0rex

No shit dude. I had to replace my stock ones with the nismo one because i had hit a curb and since my car is freaking low it usally took something out when i hit a curb when i had the stock tc brace. Now everytime i hit something with my nismo it usally just slides on to the rest of it.

I noticed it when it started getting a bit of surface rust. The first time i hit a curb with it i thought something broke for sure. Fuking brace is beefy as a mofo also works as a slide plate. Get it!

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!Zar!

I put the nismo power brace to the test a few times. And it didn't deform at all. I did have the surface rust problem; after a few curbings. All I did was sand the rust off and shot it with primer.

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