Drifting Ricer

This car is for my boy. He say this right now (in a mag)
This what it says: 95 Nissan 240sx 101K, mil no title, bad clucth, runs exc, parts only. If it runs exc why sell it for parts. How hard is it to get a title??? 0_o??
He wants to get it.

duderiffic

That basically means it hot doesn't it?  I don't think you can get a title for a car.  Especially if you just bought it.  Sounds like a coupon for a free night in the local pen to me.

Jeff

Drifting Ricer

Why would he put it in a well known mag if he knows he can easly go to jail?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?
I don't know much about tiltles but if there way to get one?

AceInHole

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Why would he put it in a well known mag if he knows he can easly go to jail?<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> stupidity far exceeds the capabilities of the human mind. &nbsp;

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I believe you have to have proof of ownership. &nbsp;Maybe you could call a police station and see if there are any 240sx's reported stolen?? &nbsp;Anyways, it's probably parts only since there's no title....

Drifting Ricer

Hmm you're right ace. #### I wonder if anyone has an idea on how to get a title if the person &quot;doesn't have theirs&quot;. I guess he will have to call tomorrow.

SaintlyCharBoy

tried calling on the car, in N chelmsford, right? no answer <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
anywho, there are really several reasons for the lack of a title, the most common is as stated, being hot
some places, however, a revuilt/salvage car loses it's title, if this is the case you can get one on a vin and a bill of sale

Drifting Ricer

I don't have the mag anymore but I'll check on it later on today. Well I guess he is &nbsp;pretty dumb for putting it out there like that. The pic had a black 95 covered in snow. &nbsp;I hope this guy isn't trying anything funny.

drift freaq

quite often when someone sells a car with no title its does not mean the car is hot but mostly likely has a lien on it and it has changed a few hands with no one satisfying the lien . Also if you buy a car from a lien sale at a tow yard it will not have a title . Same goes for a car sold from a wrecking yard (even though the car may be fine). &nbsp;They will have lein sale certificates, auto auction certificates, . Now first thing to do is check it out . #### if it was here I would. Investigate . Find out what they know about the history of the car. If it does have a lien on it then at least here in cali you are going to have to pay all the back registration on the car . Thats the other thing to look at . Are the tags current?? when were they last renewed have they been out for several years. If so you pay and that can add up. I remember a brother selling a S13 down in the hood that I checked out . It had been out of reg since 98 . I went to the DMV and checked up on it $800 in back registration fees and penalties. plus it needed work. I passed.

transient

Run a carfax report on it.

Drifting Ricer

drift freaq thanx allot I'll copy what you just told me. &nbsp;transient I'll make sure that he gets the VIN number too. Hey you have carfax?

JeffNJ

I still have the title to a black '91 Integra GS. &nbsp;I ran a carfax on it to learn it was sold at a police auction. &nbsp;So, yeah, apparently that can be done with out a title.

There's a story here, of course, but I'll only bother telling it if anyone cares.

yenpit

we DO care Jeff.....whats ur story??? :cheesy:

burgy240

after checking it out and if there is no crime history or major accident history ion the car you can apply for the title after showing ownership of the car for a set period of time. &nbsp;I'm not sure what that time period is and if it is different in each state but I have heard it done before. &nbsp;good luck.

Jeff240sx

I know in Florida, a title can be bought, but you would have to go to your local title place, (here its the courthouse) and get a few pieces of paper. &nbsp;The gist of it is have the seller sign it, a witness sign it, the buyer sign it, and a few other people sign it. &nbsp;This then shows proof of ownership, as well as a bill of sale. &nbsp;Then there is a $50 fee to replicate the title.
-Jeff

Drifting Ricer

Don't worry guys. The guy is only selling it for parts. My boy called him, and &nbsp;now is looking at a s13 for 2,100. I hope he gets it.

Thanx to everyone that help me out and my boy. I'll now copy all you said to me for the future

SaintlyCharBoy

update for anyone who cares... called the guy today, he has not tile (duh)
he owns a local shop and got stuck withthe car, a police tow, said he had more of the story, that it's not stolen, and not an se...

alchemist

where is the car at? &nbsp;I might be interested in buyin the shell without a title and only &nbsp;a bill of sale.

JeffNJ

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Okay, I'll skip past the accident itself part, but I wound up totalling a black '90 Integra GS (I know I said '91 earlier, but now I think I mis-remembered that) a few years ago. I sold it to a body shop for $800 so they could use it for parts and stuff.

Several months went by before I received a letter from the &quot;Passiac County Auto Theft Task Force&quot;. It read something like, &quot;Mr. Jamieson, we have recovered your stolen Acura. If you would like it back, please call us.&quot;

Quite interested, that's exactly what I did. &quot;You have my Acura?&quot;, I asked, &quot;What kind of shape is it in?&quot;. The officer wanted to know why I was asking. I said, &quot;Well, I mean, aren't stolen cars frequently damaged?&quot;. &quot;Oh,&quot; he said, &quot;yeah, they are, but this one is fine.&quot; &quot;Fine?!&quot; &quot;Yeah, completely. Listen, you want it back or not?&quot; &quot;Uhm. Okay. What do I have to do?&quot; &quot;Bring down the title and some ID.&quot; &quot;I don't have the title. It was, uhh, in the car when I lost it&quot; (actually, I had given the title to the body shop, signed, when I sold it) (but they didn't appear to know this). The officer or detective or whoever said, &quot;That's okay. Go to DMV with ID and the VIN. They'll issue you a new title.&quot;

So, I dug up an old insurance bill and went to DMV. I asked for title for this car, and gave them the VIN. The woman entered the VIN in to her computer, looked up at me, and asked, &quot;Are you Mr. Jamieson?&quot; &quot;Yup.&quot; &quot;Can I see some ID?&quot; &quot;Here ya go.&quot; &quot;And, here you go.&quot;. She gave me a title. I asked about the original, and she said the act of issuing a replacement automatically voids the original. &nbsp;Should anyone with the original try to do anything, the computer would indicate that a duplicate exists, and the original was now worthless.

So, back to retrieving &quot;my&quot; Acura I was. Several phone calls later, now, I started learning all the details. This required calling both the &quot;Auto Theft Task Force&quot; and my body shop to piece together the puzzle. Here's what happened.

The body shop, per se, didn't buy the car. An employee did. I didn't know that. &nbsp;But, then, that employee was in 'some shady stuff', so the owner fired him. He left, and took my/his Acura with him. He was given my signed title as well. &nbsp;But, without a job at a body shop anymore, I guess it was harder to fix the car legitmately, so he stole body panels off another black Integra on the street. He may have gotten away with this had he bothered re-titling and re-registering the car. See, he also stole license plates for the car.

A cop ran the plates, and discovered they were not his. They pulled him over, and checked the VIN. According to DMV, that VIN came back registered to me. So, they arrested him for auto theft and impounded the car. Guess he should've just bought new body parts, eh?

Anyway, since it was my car, I was legally entitled to take it back. However, since the hood, left fender, and entire front end were not mine, I couldn't have those. Also, I had to pay for towing and storage in the impound lot, which is apparently standard practice even if your car was stolen.

I decided it wasn't worth the trouble or the money, especially since I had serious doubts about the quality of repairs under the hood, so I told 'em to just keep it.

That all had to be about two years ago now. Just last summer, I ran a CarFax on the VIN because I was curious. I still have my title (someplace), but the vehicle has transfered ownership anyway - at a police auction, presumably.

So, there's my story. You don't need a title to buy or sell a car, I guess. &nbsp;

However, if I ever found my title and the car, could I still claim ownership and take it back? &nbsp;I mean, I doubt it, but I still don't really know. &nbsp;A new title was probably issued as a &quot;salvage&quot; or whatever, and I bet I can't over-ride that one. &nbsp;Who knows?

(Edited by JeffNJ at 12:43 pm on Jan. 30, 2002)

drifterx

basicly the car is junk and u should only buy it if u need the parts or u can sell the parts

HippoSleek

If a mechanic has a car that has sat on his lot for a period of time (specified by state statue) after he has completed the repairs, he has a &quot;mechanics lien.&quot; &nbsp;With this, he can get title to the car and must sell it in a reasonable manner (this is a very unclear term). &nbsp;He can then use the sale price to pay for the value of repairs he provided and must hold the rest in trust for the original owner.

The buyer gets the title that the mechanic had, which is valid if the above steps were taken even against the original owner.

Check your local laws, but this is generally the case.

alchemist

where is this car &nbsp;at.....i'll buy it tonite