zooopreme

Vice did a video a while back on this drug. It's not hard to make and inexpensive to make with the ingredients being accessible. It's actually quite sad.

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Felipe

Wow... O.O

Dude1: "bro my finger just fell off"...... Looks at it.....
Dude2: "keep smoking or shut up and pass it!!!"
Dude1: smokes...

Lmao!!!!!

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S14DB

Finally we get the good shit. If Russian cigarettes say anything, this stuff will be awesome.

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lewisfk

The more the better, this planet is too damn crowded with idiots!

AFSil80

I say legalize it and remove the safety labels from everything else and society will eventually move forward from where it currently resides.

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Corbic

It's good shit. Been around for a while.

I encourage it's usage. Hopefully it will help with our drug addict and homeless problems. If you are at the point you are shooting codeine cut with gasoline - there's no saving your society sucking, family wrecking, miserable life.

deolio

i watched a documentary about it a few years ago. some gruesome shit for sure. people are idiots.

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each day i feel luckier of just being a drunk...

Corbic

Just wait till your 40.

tdaffern

Some times Google is not your friend. That shit is nasty! I've always wondered what would make someone say "hey I want to try that" knowing what the effects are. Like meth, everyone knows what it does to you but people still get hooked everyday. Very sad..

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I think you'd be surprised.

First, those that do drugs are actually generally fucking stupid. I've met a few that think they are smart, but they are not. Second, I'd be curious to what state someone may already be in when trying something like meth or krokodil. Already high, desperate for a fix...

Ultimately the massive reduction in the use of crack-cocain has been because of the rampant stereo types and the increased difficulty in getting it. Meth took its place, originally billed as a designer drug.

Sure meth being smoked anymore has a negative "redneck/white trash" image... however brand it as "Tina" or "Molly", tell kids it's just "ecstasy" and bamn, shits hot again and people are singing about it cauz it's fucking cool.


So give a stupid junkie or chicken head a shot of Krock calling it something cool like "liquid sky" or "synthetic heroin... it's like the ecstasy of the heroin world"... they do it a few times, are totally wasted off it... and by the time their arm falls off their brain has long since been fried.

az_240

Not surprised it shows up in AZ first.... we always get the dirty shit

tricky_ab

I am all about Vice docs, but this was the one that I couldn't bring myself to watch. I have absolutely no problem not googling it. This shit is nightmare fuel.

Forte EXE

Saw videos of this drug a couple years ago. Nasty, nasty stuff. I remember this girl that had all of her skin off her forearm and you could see right between the bones.

I remember that video saying, the patients were in so much pain, but they still wanted to hit it again.

Im pretty sure this will hit hard, but its not going to be right away.

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tdaffern

Is Molly a type of Meth? I saw a video on Facebook of a guy tripping out on Molly. He couldn't stand up and was screaming.

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supersayianjim

drugs are bad!! but seems everyone wants to legalize pot???

but i didn't know we could get to pick and choose what drugs were ok??

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I'll say this much...I'm more open to the idea of naturally occurring substances like weed than all these chemically manufactured drugs that are all the rage.

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supersayianjim

so popie seeds are ok then??

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The claims are that users are in so much pain that they have to continue using the drug because morphine and other types of pain killers have no effect. So once you show signs of physical deterioration, you continue using the drug to "ease" the pain until you die.

Kids now a days don't realize that meth has always been in ecstasy and mollies. Obviously there are examples of more pure and dirty samples, but it's always been cut with meth. Only difference is that meth is most dangerous/addicting if smoked or injected into the bloodstream. Still shitty stuff to mess with no matter what, but most "effective" when using the aforementioned methods.

I agree with everyone though, I think it's a good way of population control. Queue the government conspirators.

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Corbic

Ever use Aspirin or Penicillin? How about some novocain when you got your tooth drilled? Ever drank a beer, some whine or a margarita? Had cigar or a cigarette lately? What about a Red Bull, Monster or Pepsi Cola?

Corbic

The problem is that banning the natural substances, Opium, Marijuana, Cocaine; etc... leads to the development of designer drugs.

For example, people originally used opiates and cocaine like we use aspirin and caffeine today. Granted they formed addiction and caused health problems... but we did use them regularly as a society. Then we banned them... this made it harder to get, so when you did get some, you had to make it count.

So where once cocaine was mixed with your cola, you now snorted it... then you smoked it (Freebase) and eventually someone figured out how to mix it with baking soda (or whatever) and created crack-cocaine. Each evolution produced a greater high, stronger addiction all the while requiring less of the substance.

Eventually Meth was created to give a similar "high" but this time you didn't need any cocaine! It was all synthetic. Meth too has gone under a lot of evolutions since the 1970's.

As SW20 stated, even "Extacy" has made lots of changes in recent years - to get higher off less product making dealers more money.

What I find ironic is that Miley, Jay Z and other pop-stars will sing about "Molly" as if it's some glamorous party drug like cocaine of the late 70's... all the while they are basically just snorting trailer-trash backyard meth.

xoxide

Probably the most ignorant statement in this thread. I do not smoke week, nor have any desire to try it but...

I support the legalization of a naturally grown substance that has been scientifically proven to help ease many many many "issues" (on the topic of medicinal mj), way before I support the continued legalization of cigerette's which have chemicals such as tar, formeldehyde, arsenic, DDT (if you dont know about DDT then you need to do a little research), and about 585 other toxic chemicals (43 of which are KNOWN to cause cancer) in them...

How many people have you heard about dying from smoking pot?

Well heres some facts:
-0 people have ever been recorded from dying as a direct result from smoking pot.
- Roughly 70 people die per year while high... Again, not as a direct result from the pot.

Now for smoking, how many people die from smoking, lung cancer, etc. each year?
- Roughly 443,000 people die each year as a result of smoking.
- Another 8.6 million people are currently estimated to be living with a disiese as a result of smoking.


Now tell me again why pot should be illegal?


Consider yourself englightened.


On topic though-
This is some nasty shit. Wow... Googled the pics, grusome.

Corbic

^well said, and let us not even go down the path known as "alcohol".

thefro526

This is sad, although not unexpected. Odds are, someone in the US looking for a hit was surfing the web and found a link for Krokodil, found out how easy it was to make and gave it a shot.

I'm not going to sit here and say that drugs aren't a bad idea - trust me, they are - but more often than not, some of the extremes associated with addiction and 'addict life' are due to the fact that drugs are illegal, and taboo in most modern societies. We as a people (a nation, a culture, etc.) cannot accept the fact that addicts will exist, and that addiction is something that a significant number of people will deal with in their lifetime.

Because of this, we (again, as a nation, culture, etc) chose to persecute drug users, dealers, manufacturers, etc, as if putting them in jail will solve the problem. It doesn't. There's so much money and power in the game that it will not go away until there is no longer a game to be played.

You're probably reading this and thinking 'What the hell is this dude talking about?' - and I don't blame you.

Basically, what I'm saying, is that the fact that the US (and much of the 'modern' world) has a 'zero tolerance' approach to drug use is the real catalyst for addiction in modern times. Look at all of the kids that smoke weed before they've graduated high school. This number is relatively constant over time. Where do you go to buy weed? (if you're not in Cali, or Colorado or another 'green' state) You go to your dealer. Odds are, your dealer is a shady character at best (though there are some on the up and up, I've met at least one like this) and is only looking to make money. He'll (she'll) introduce you to weed, then to the next thing, and to the next thing, until they've got you hooked.

Once you're hooked, now you're playing the deadly game of 'what is this shit'. You're told it's one thing - when in reality, it's a bit of this, a bit of that, and a dash of something else. There's no real control in the game, especially at the street level. As long as sales aren't hurt, dealers will cut shit with anything they can find.

Hypothetically - imagine if a person could walk into a pharmacy and get whatever they wanted. Imagine if you could buy an Opiate, an Amphetamine, etc, from your local Walgreens or CVS. What would you be getting then? You'd be buying something that's made in a laboratory (a cleaner one than most street drugs) under strict control standards, where they're moderately less greedy and evil than you're average street dealer.

Think about the problem of addiction in that scenario. Sure, addiction would still exist, but it would be in the form of substance abuse where the substances are 'safe' (in the sense that you're getting what you bought, not something that will get you high, but also contains gasoline) because they're made for consumer consumption and monitored (taxed) by the government.

I'm not saying that drug addiction would cease to exist under such a model - I believe that it would change form into something that is much less deadly - and possibly more controllable. (Not to mention, that it basically kills the current incentives for organized crime involved.)

All of that being said, there is no perfect solution to the problem. On one hand, you can accept that addiction will exist and attempt to 'control it' and 'make it safe' (the side that I stand on) - and on the other, you can attempt to eradicate it entirely (the side that most Gov'ts seem to play).

Neither of those is a perfect solution, but if thousands (millions) of years of Humanity have taught us anything, we should understand that people will become addicted to damn near anything - TV, Video Games, Internet, Working, Drugs, Women, Men, Sex, Power, Money, Dreams, Tanning, Driving, Running, Biking, Living, Dying, Loving, Hating - Anything.

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xoxide

^Very well said Fro.

S12 Drifter

Heres a fact: henry ford built a car completely out of hemp and it was stronger and lighter then steel.

For those who dont know hemp is from cannabis aka weed in stran form or twine form. Also cannabis has show to sl?ow brain aging in people with alzhiemers and remove deceased brain cells. I know a friend who has been smoking in moderation since i met him this guy never gets sick ever. If there were a zombie out break this guy would be the very last guy to get converted.

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^Being from Miami I'd say its probably a good thing that he is preparing.

S12 Drifter

It was an example you twat.

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You don't think more people will use these drugs because of easier/legal access? Controlled drugs are also being illegally sold today. I don't know how people are getting them but they have controlled weed, pain killers, etc... and selling them to addicts. So the only positive I see from your post is that the drugs will not be as damaging and the money from taxing. Though you make a somewhat good option, I think I prefer to keep them illegal. People will get their drugs one way or another but atleast it being illegal will deter some.