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hulkster_s13 · 08-07-2011, 01:12 AM

anybody seen this shit? more addictive than heroin with the bonus of eating your flesh.
http://youtu.be/CbcEE0db8Xo

dont know how to post the player sorry

driftsilvias13 · 08-07-2011, 01:52 AM

Why the fuck am i watching this. Shit is disgusting!

towlie · 08-07-2011, 03:23 AM

Now, where do I buy this?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-2300787.html

altalti · 08-07-2011, 08:43 AM

That is some crazy stuff right there. Guess it makes it easier for them to go quickly since there usually stealing to buy drugs anyway.

Okinawandrifter87 · 08-07-2011, 08:51 AM

Idk how I just watched that without barfing all over the carpet.

Otto347 · 08-07-2011, 09:28 AM

Why are they using a finger saw to cut the bone?

Daniel. · 08-07-2011, 10:10 AM

I just read a few articles on this. The shit literally makes you fucking rot to death.

"if you miss a vein, you immediately get an abscess."

Hideous.

ayuaddict · 08-07-2011, 10:46 AM

Just read through the article, that is crazy.

icedsole · 08-07-2011, 10:59 AM

hahh man this has been the hot topic lately around here.

i think life expectancy after starting is like 1 year?

in russian drug smokes you!

ILoveMyRHS13 · 08-07-2011, 10:59 AM

Holy FUCK. I didn't watch the video, simply because I knew I couldn't. That article is gnarly enough. D:

1on1 · 08-07-2011, 11:08 AM

This is some serious shit.

R Drifter · 08-07-2011, 11:27 AM

yeah this shit is terrible, i first saw this video a while back on theync.com, warning...DO NOT GO ON THAT WEBSITE IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH!

BongateerZ32 · 08-07-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by icedsole

in russian drug smokes you!

literally made me lol

tricky_ab · 08-07-2011, 11:40 AM

I had seen this posted on another forum I visit a while ago. If you don't have an iron stomach, I'd skip watching ANYTHING to do with this drug.

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The average user of krokodil, a dirty cousin of morphine that is spreading like a virus among Russian youth, does not live longer than two or three years, and the few who manage to quit usually come away disfigured.
...

The active component is codeine, a widely sold over-the-counter painkiller that is not toxic on its own. But to produce krokodil, whose medical name is desomorphine, addicts mix it with ingredients including gasoline, paint thinner, hydrochloric acid, iodine and red phosphorous, which they scrape from the striking pads on matchboxes. In 2010, between a few hundred thousand and a million people, according to various official estimates, were injecting the resulting substance into their veins in Russia, so far the only country in the world to see the drug grow into an epidemic.
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The "rotting" explains the drug's nickname. At the injection site, which can be anywhere from the feet to the forehead, the addict's skin becomes greenish and scaly, like a crocodile's, as blood vessels burst and the surrounding tissue dies. Gangrene and amputations are a common result, while porous bone tissue, especially in the lower jaw, often starts to dissipate, eaten up by the drug's acidity.

Time Magazine

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Russia has more heroin users than any other country in the world – up to two million, according to unofficial estimates. For most, their lot is a life of crime, stints in prison, probable contraction of HIV and hepatitis C, and an early death. As efforts to stem the flow of Afghan heroin into Russia bring some limited success, and the street price of the drug goes up, for those addicts who can't afford their next hit, an even more terrifying spectre has raised its head.

The home-made drug that Oleg and Sasha inject is known as krokodil, or "crocodile". It is desomorphine, a synthetic opiate many times more powerful than heroin that is created from a complex chain of mixing and chemical reactions, which the addicts perform from memory several times a day. While heroin costs from £20 to £60 per dose, desomorphine can be "cooked" from codeine-based headache pills that cost £2 per pack, and other household ingredients available cheaply from the markets.

It is a drug for the poor, and its effects are horrific. It was given its reptilian name because its poisonous ingredients quickly turn the skin scaly. Worse follows. Oleg and Sasha have not been using for long, but Oleg has rotting sores on the back of his neck.

"If you miss the vein, that's an abscess straight away," says Sasha. Essentially, they are injecting poison directly into their flesh. One of their friends, in a neighbouring apartment block, is further down the line.

"She won't go to hospital, she just keeps injecting. Her flesh is falling off and she can hardly move anymore," says Sasha. Photographs of late-stage krokodil addicts are disturbing in the extreme. Flesh goes grey and peels away to leave bones exposed. People literally rot to death.

Russian heroin addicts first discovered how to make krokodil around four years ago, and there has been a steady rise in consumption, with a sudden peak in recent months. "Over the past five years, sales of codeine-based tablets have grown by dozens of times," says Viktor Ivanov, the head of Russia's Drug Control Agency. "It's pretty obvious that it's not because everyone has suddenly developed headaches."

Heroin addiction kills 30,000 people per year in Russia – a third of global deaths from the drug – but now there is the added problem of krokodil. Mr Ivanov recalled a recent visit to a drug-treatment centre in Western Siberia. "They told me that two years ago almost all their drug users used heroin," said the drugs tsar. "Now, more than half of them are on desomorphine."

He estimates that overall, around 5 per cent of Russian drug users are on krokodil and other home-made drugs, which works out at about 100,000 people. It's a huge, hidden epidemic – worse in the really isolated parts of Russia where supplies of heroin are patchy – but palpable even in cities such as Tver.

The Independent

You've been warned...Not for the faint of heart:

Disturbing video of users

towlie · 08-07-2011, 12:01 PM

Honestly I doubt this would ever become a problem here (US), I don't think people would ever become desperate enough.. Well, I could be wrong because if someone is already addicted to heroin they obviously aren't thinking rationally

Doubt it would ever become a "club drug" lol

Matej · 08-07-2011, 12:16 PM

This drug should be distributed among all addicts to get rid of them quicker.

tricky_ab · 08-07-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by towlie

Doubt it would ever become a "club drug" lol

Nah it will never be a designer drug of sorts.

Let's look at some of the contents...

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including gasoline, paint thinner, hydrochloric acid, iodine and red phosphorous

1on1 · 08-07-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matej

This drug should be distributed among all addicts to get rid of them quicker.

Should be America's anti-drug to addicts.

nomoremk2 · 08-07-2011, 03:54 PM

Dear god those videos were horrifying. I wonder how long it actually takes for these people to decay like that. I can't imagine having openly exposed bone like that and being ok with it. I guess at that point it becomes depression and no self worth that drives the continued use. Those are the probably the reasons they started anyways. It was pretty disturbing reading the article and them mentioning their friend. They see end result and continue to use. At the point that you can nolonger move and have exposed bone matter and numerous abcesses you may aswell just put a gun to your head.

ZilviaKid · 08-07-2011, 04:42 PM

***S14DB*** · 08-07-2011, 05:02 PM

Desomorphine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Desomorphine (Dihydrodesoxymorphine, Permonid, also known as Krokodil) is an opiate analogue invented in 1932 in the United States

Dang, we could have won the war with this stuff!

I really think it's from the iodine and red phosphorus they use to make it cause they can't get Thionyl chloride. I guess this can be compared to the meth epidemic here. All the nasty by-chemicals used to make it is what kills you not the main drug.

***CrimsonRockett*** · 08-08-2011, 08:41 AM

I've seen a lot worse (gore wise), hence the reason why the two videos in this thread weren't that bad (at all) to watch.

The comments in the first video made me laugh. "WTF don't they have a dremel or some shit?!"

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Originally Posted by Matej

This drug should be distributed among all addicts to get rid of them quicker.

Part of me wants to agree to this, but at the same time I can't say all addicts deserve this.

Some of them just made a stupid decision and it unfortunately progressed to an addiction. The whole "trying it once won't hurt me" mentality doesn't apply to everyone. Some have more will power than others.

All they need is a second chance.

Then again, there are absolutely horrible people out there that truly do deserve this (convicts going in and out of prison, murderers, rapists, drug addicts that are very aware of what they're doing and still continue to do so like the people in these videos, etc).

towlie · 08-08-2011, 03:03 PM

If they tried it then it's their own fault they got addicted

Cause I highly doubt someone put a gun to a dudes head and said "smoke this shit"

Addicts = addicts = worthless to society

KiLLeR2001 · 08-08-2011, 03:08 PM

Terrible. For all we know, Heroin dealers could be lying to people telling them its a new form of Heroin, they love it so much they keep shooting it not realizing their body decaying, and by then its too late. Dealer got his money and now the user is dead. Move onto the next chump.

nomoremk2 · 08-08-2011, 04:15 PM

Well from what the article described it's almost pointless to try and withdrawal. You're in so much excruciating pain that you'd need morphine just to keep from passing out it says. From looking at what's left of those people, I don't doubt that for a second.

lflkajfj12123 · 08-08-2011, 05:34 PM

Bobobo, wont you stop that crap? Smoking that bomb makes you crazy.
But everythings crazy in the world today,
so you, you might as well smoke it anyway.

1on1 · 08-08-2011, 05:57 PM

nvm.......

TheWolf · 08-09-2011, 05:32 AM

might have seen this without knowing it.. seen someone come in for a "spider bite" the other day that got "infected".. she spent 6 weeks getting treatment on my floor..
No one was really sure if it was a spider bite but there were 3 other injection sites right next to the "bite"... she's kinda a known frequent flyer IV drug user and the bite eventually became a 10"x3" wound.

BURSTspeed · 08-09-2011, 05:36 PM

drugs are bad kiddies...thats sooo grosss

w0nderbr3ad · 08-09-2011, 06:00 PM

Having exposed bone is a good sign your vitals are beyond fucked. If I was ever at that point I would just ask them to put me down like a dog. All the psychological damage of seeing my own limbs just breaking down and falling apart would just put me under. But I've never seen a bone so clean before, must be those fuel chemicals.

08-07-2011, 01:12 AM	#1
hulkster_s13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: down by da beach Posts: 276 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	krokodil drug anybody seen this shit? more addictive than heroin with the bonus of eating your flesh. http://youtu.be/CbcEE0db8Xo dont know how to post the player sorry

08-07-2011, 01:52 AM	#2
driftsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,297 Trader Rating: (54) Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Why the fuck am i watching this. Shit is disgusting! __________________

08-07-2011, 08:51 AM	#5
Okinawandrifter87 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 3,959 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Idk how I just watched that without barfing all over the carpet. __________________ Driftphreak87

08-07-2011, 10:10 AM	#7
Daniel. Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 36 Posts: 3,713 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Daniel. Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just read a few articles on this. The shit literally makes you fucking rot to death. "if you miss a vein, you immediately get an abscess." Hideous. __________________

08-07-2011, 10:59 AM	#9
icedsole Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: wa Posts: 1,820 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	hahh man this has been the hot topic lately around here. i think life expectancy after starting is like 1 year? in russian drug smokes you! __________________ @pwrmves14

08-07-2011, 03:23 AM	#3
towlie Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,496 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Now, where do I buy this? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-2300787.html

08-07-2011, 08:43 AM	#4
altalti Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: va beach virginia Posts: 597 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	That is some crazy stuff right there. Guess it makes it easier for them to go quickly since there usually stealing to buy drugs anyway.

08-07-2011, 10:46 AM	#8
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Just read through the article, that is crazy.

08-07-2011, 11:08 AM	#11
1on1 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 3,314 Trader Rating: (15) Rides Gallery: 1on1 Feedback Score: 15 reviews	This is some serious shit. __________________ instagram

08-07-2011, 11:27 AM	#12
R Drifter Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yeah this shit is terrible, i first saw this video a while back on theync.com, warning...DO NOT GO ON THAT WEBSITE IF YOU HAVE A WEAK STOMACH! __________________

08-07-2011, 12:01 PM	#15
towlie Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,496 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Honestly I doubt this would ever become a problem here (US), I don't think people would ever become desperate enough.. Well, I could be wrong because if someone is already addicted to heroin they obviously aren't thinking rationally Doubt it would ever become a "club drug" lol

08-07-2011, 12:16 PM	#16
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	This drug should be distributed among all addicts to get rid of them quicker.

08-07-2011, 03:54 PM	#19
nomoremk2 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South jersey Age: 31 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Dear god those videos were horrifying. I wonder how long it actually takes for these people to decay like that. I can't imagine having openly exposed bone like that and being ok with it. I guess at that point it becomes depression and no self worth that drives the continued use. Those are the probably the reasons they started anyways. It was pretty disturbing reading the article and them mentioning their friend. They see end result and continue to use. At the point that you can nolonger move and have exposed bone matter and numerous abcesses you may aswell just put a gun to your head.

08-07-2011, 04:42 PM	#20
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08-08-2011, 03:03 PM	#23
towlie Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,496 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	If they tried it then it's their own fault they got addicted Cause I highly doubt someone put a gun to a dudes head and said "smoke this shit" Addicts = addicts = worthless to society

08-08-2011, 03:08 PM	#24
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	Terrible. For all we know, Heroin dealers could be lying to people telling them its a new form of Heroin, they love it so much they keep shooting it not realizing their body decaying, and by then its too late. Dealer got his money and now the user is dead. Move onto the next chump. __________________

08-08-2011, 04:15 PM	#25
nomoremk2 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South jersey Age: 31 Posts: 293 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Well from what the article described it's almost pointless to try and withdrawal. You're in so much excruciating pain that you'd need morphine just to keep from passing out it says. From looking at what's left of those people, I don't doubt that for a second.

08-08-2011, 05:34 PM	#26
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Bobobo, wont you stop that crap? Smoking that bomb makes you crazy. But everythings crazy in the world today, so you, you might as well smoke it anyway.

08-08-2011, 05:57 PM	#27
1on1 Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 3,314 Trader Rating: (15) Rides Gallery: 1on1 Feedback Score: 15 reviews	nvm....... __________________ instagram Last edited by 1on1; 08-09-2011 at 09:08 AM..

08-09-2011, 05:32 AM	#28
TheWolf Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orange Park, FL (Jax) Posts: 1,468 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	might have seen this without knowing it.. seen someone come in for a "spider bite" the other day that got "infected".. she spent 6 weeks getting treatment on my floor.. No one was really sure if it was a spider bite but there were 3 other injection sites right next to the "bite"... she's kinda a known frequent flyer IV drug user and the bite eventually became a 10"x3" wound. __________________ Eye on the Prize

08-09-2011, 05:36 PM	#29
BURSTspeed Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Age: 30 Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	drugs are bad kiddies...thats sooo grosss __________________

08-09-2011, 06:00 PM	#30
w0nderbr3ad Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vantucky Posts: 1,293 Trader Rating: (50) Feedback Score: 50 reviews	Having exposed bone is a good sign your vitals are beyond fucked. If I was ever at that point I would just ask them to put me down like a dog. All the psychological damage of seeing my own limbs just breaking down and falling apart would just put me under. But I've never seen a bone so clean before, must be those fuel chemicals.

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